Illymations GoFundMe for breaking the lease. donate if you can

Due to the major influx of posts made on this situation thanks to Noah's Video and TBYS original Video being taken down, we agreed this would be the best course of action to avoid overfilling the sub with posts about the drama. please keep all future discussion of this drama in here

Here's a collection of all the major threads On the drama

First 2 threads on the subject matter that go into detail about the drama and TBYS's videos:

First: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1bce6hz/think_before_you_sleep_an_alt_right_grifter_made/

Second: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1bdjz6q/think_before_you_sleep_made_a_second_video_on/

Thread talking about the commentary channels joining in and just taking the sides of TBYS: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1bq7x70/commentary_channels_now_join_into_the_drama_of/

TBYS making a third video on the drama. this around the same time illy got doxxed: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1bt7vmq/the_drama_continues_he_says_as_he_makes_a/

TBYS's Apology on how he worded his fashion Critique: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1bu14rv/think_before_you_sleep_posts_an_update_about_the/

Noah Samsen's Video going over the lies, bullying, and priming of TBYS's video. also explains why illy had to make a gofundme: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1cf9u37/video_essayist_think_before_you_sleep_falsifies/

TBYS's video being taken down from youtube and his general reactions to that and the video from noah samsen: (update the video returned but the top comments are about how he lied so lmao) https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1cfvvht/update_think_before_you_sleeps_original_video_on/

https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1cfy9gi/update_video_essayist_think_before_you_sleep_has/

https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1cgu73u/update_video_essayist_tbys_lashes_out_at_youtube/

TBYS explaining why he made illy's argument look worse in his video: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1cfv8iw/update_video_essayist_think_before_you_sleep_has/

Omni's recent coverage of the drama that made a lot of people mad at him for not even watching Noah's video before hand while reading TBYS's response to said video: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1cgf3dh/omni_makes_an_update_to_the_tbys_illymation_and/

Omni Stream where he ended up watching the stream but later deleted it: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1cggovx/yeah_im_so_glad_i_unsubbed_from_drama_commentary/

Omni deleted the stream and that part of his video for failing to properly cover the drama: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1cgqylb/omni_has_deleted_his_stream_covering_noah_samsens/

DISCLAIMER: I’m not saying that harassing or threatening her safety was right. I’m just saying that some of the criticisms were correct.

I’m a fan, I’ve paid for her Patreon, I’m not trying to be bad faith

A few weeks ago I was remembering how Contra started hanging out with Theryn Meyer and how weird that was.

Theryn was at the very least nazi adjacent. She used to hang around Lauren Southern, was a Trump supporter (despite being Canadian), made xenophobic comments about Latino immigrants, tried to prevent along with Jordan Peterson pro trans legislation, etc. Like, at some point Theryn was quite literally worse than Blaire White.

Now that I’m grown, I can see were some of Natalie’s critics were coming from and that’s not being parasocial. It’s weird to hang around and work with someone that not even a year prior was talking about building a wall to prevent people like me from coming to America.

I’m not saying Theryn didn’t deserve space to grow. I just think at the time, doing so publicly was unfair to the people affected by her behavior.

I think that the “Angel Buck” situation was just an escalation of Natalie aiding in the rehabilitation of certain transphobic people, even when they didn’t fully deserve it. This doesn’t mean that harassing her was okay, I just don’t think that “she was cancelled over a 10 second voice over clip” is a fair characterization of the situation.

Since her Canceling video, criticism of Natalie is near impossible to make. People think that anyone criticizing her is that caricature she painted about her critics.

Anyways, all that was on my mind. I need another job probably.

Went to sleep planning to watch the stream in the morning and woke up to it completely gone

Omni is a dramaterry channel who focused on giving his opinion on the dramas, tho leans to attempt to be apolitical

He's already has 2 videos and a live stream on the illymations drama, all taking the side of TBYS.

Since the Noah Samsen video came out and is being talked about a lot, and that TBYS's original Illymation video was taken down, it's clear that this drama has to have an update.

So Omni decided to cover the drama, but instead of doing actual research, he just brings up how Noah made a video before reading TBYS's post on the video and getting his video removed.

This obviously piss a lot of people off, because for starters, it's Omni's job to be on top of this stuff properly, so him admitting to not caring is a sign he might not be the best person for this, but also the fact that TBYS is clearly not a reliable narrator in general, and especially not on the video.

he would later release a comment explaining that he doesn't want to be on this drama because it seems endless (gee, wonder why noah made the video, can't be in the first minute where he explains how the drama is still effecting illy) but he might now consider watching the video now that people in his comments have told him to, but still on the side of this seems to be a bad idea.

https://preview.redd.it/9dwnri1kfixc1.png?width=966&format=png&auto=webp&s=668a084ee539b8c702b1524b72d03b9adebc45fa

edit: HE'S NOW WATCHING THE VIDEO ON STREAM BUT HE IS CLEARLY LOOKING AT IT IN A NEGATIVE LIGHT

I'm obligated to provide context for the rules of this sub so uhhhh, watch Noah Samsens newest video.

Ok back to my steaming hot take, there's a million channels like him, all he's doing is just regurgitating the formula and content style of sargon of akkad and somehow making it even more sloppy and lazy. I remember patricia taxxon making a video about rags, a former shitty alt right response channel who is now currently a frequent guest on the EFAP podcast ran by mauler, and like, it's the same shit dude, just without a memorable rantsona or anything remotely Interesting about them.

Also to be honest, I disagree with Noah's point that TBYS didn't intend for any harm to come to ily, the entire point of the format he's using is to spout stochastic terrorism, which will always Inevitably lead to violence, he knew what he was doing, pretending that he's just stupid and not aware of the harm his content is causing rids him of accountability for his actions.

The Rosa Rey Ramsey video was released almost a year ago. How come it's only within the last few months people started talking about it? Was there a creator who sounded the the alarm that this wasn't acceptable? Up until recently, if you look back at Lio's old videos, they're nothing but positive comments.

What a bloody dingus.

"Uriel Bromberg" is the pseudonym of an online scammer/liar/abuser from Brazil. He is most known for his obsession with the child actor Iain Armitage who plays Young Sheldon on the CBS show. He poses as a musician, artist, and graphic designer. His YouTube channel currently has 139k Subscribers. This is because he has been openly getting away with re-uploading short form content of Armitage to YouTube's Shorts platform. The channel also features his original music, including "Jimmy" - both the video and song are a direct tribute to Armitage, and end with lyrics that claim Armitage is Bromberg's son. He has a history of often making claims he has a relationship with Armitage.

"Bromberg" originally stole the identity/photos of a Canadian musician named Connor Ferguson to use for catfishing purposes. After Ferguson discovered this, he attempted to stop this various times online, often unable to due to the many manipulations Bromberg would manage to get away to get content exposing his lies online, including many threads in the /RBI/ subreddit Connor made, detailing the extended amounts of online abuse and harassment Bromberg would . These threads have now been taken down by Reddit after privacy claims by Bromberg, but you can find all the archives here:

https://undelete.pullpush.io/r/RBI/comments/18tifvo/help_me_find_and_stop_my_cyberstalker_who_used_my/

https://undelete.pullpush.io/r/RBI/comments/18wf4fr/removed_by_reddit/

https://undelete.pullpush.io/r/RBI/comments/191yxeu/uriel_bromberg_part_3_more_updates_on_this_liar/

https://undelete.pullpush.io/r/RBI/comments/1ae8w9n/removed_by_reddit/

Ferguson has also detailed these abuses at length again on various videos on his TikTok which you can view here: https://www.tiktok.com/@connorfergusongs

A YouTuber named CultCoffin discovered Connor's story and made a video detailing the now deleted Reddit posts. Uriel then, comments on the video, files privacy claims against it, and openly stalks and harasses CultCoffin on his personal social media pages until the video is eventually taken down.

CultCoffin uploads another video on a sister channel with Connor with identifying information about Uriel left out so he can't make claims of privacy violations against it. The video is two hours long, but goes into great detail again about the abuse and harassment Bromberg has been openly getting away with.

Five days ago, another YouTuber named Pixels After Dark discovers the story, and makes another video exposing what Bromberg has done. Uriel is openly in the comments making threats against Pixels After Dark's channel. Video hasn't been taken down yet, but may be.

This is in response to a post about him getting the community note.

(If this isn't the right group for this kind of post, please let me know. Apologies in advance.)

So yeah, I find most commentary/"tea" channels boring. There are some good ones, of course. Film Cooper and FunkyFrogBait are both funny. And I do like Spill Sesh, even though her videos' thumbnails and titles are very clickbait (i.e. "[So-and-so] in messy drama! This is crazy!").

But then you got channels like Radiantbritt, who has NO personality whatsoever; Drama Kween, who is not only boring underneath the goth makeup, but also preachy; and content mill low-effort channels that use obvious AI vocals that mispronounce half the words. Come on, people, gimme something that makes me interested in you!

There is a part in Lexupdogs new video that really bothers me that I haven’t seen anyone bringing up. To preface this I believe she was SAd but wish she would just get off the internet and get help because she seems like a deeply unwell person. To the subject, her video turns into a weird pseudo video essay about parasocialism and SA statistics near the end. She berates Ryan from supermega for having “parasocial fans” and then claims that she has no parasocial fans whatsoever. To me this is ridiculous on its face as she is an OF creator (nothing wrong with that) and that entire websites point is being a more parasocial exchange for that kind of content. Immediately after saying this she goes over SA statistics and then encourages the viewers to give her support and SHARE THEIR SA STORIES IN THE COMMENTS. This is an extremely insane thing to ask of people IMO. She’s encouraging people to share their deepest darkest experiences in YouTube comments. This is bad enough in its own but made worse by the fact that she knows the overall response to this isn’t going to be positive and she’s encouraging people to share their stories in that kind of environment. And talk about parasocial, she’s asking her viewers to publicly share their stories in YouTube comments. This just bothered me so much and seemed genuinely dangerous and peak parasocialism from someone claiming to have no parasocial fans.

It's Nearly 4 hours long with no time stamps.

for those out of the loop, here's a quick rundown. about a month ago, Lio was accused by Hopeless Peaches to basically abusing her. when the document came out, a lot then preceded to come out about Lio's actions in the past, Notably, and the one that is the worst when it comes to everything, him and his gang of predator "hunters" bullying a severely autistic woman for 4 hours in a discord call because she was friends with Star Giant Productions. other notably bad things include defending Misanthropony and keeping him around after the Cartoonshi stuff went down, calling a school on a 15 year old and falsey accusing them of threatening to shoot up a school (lio is almost 40 years old btw), and has yet to this day ever got a predator arrested.

i haven't watched the video (it's finals week at my collage so my free time has been spent on more enjoyable things) but i just have a feeling it's going to be a bad video.

I know about the initial stuff HP had to go through with CreepshowArt and Prisonmate Luke lobbing false accusations and starting harassment campaigns. I had thought it was all over once Creepshow nuked their online presence, but a couple videos started popping up in my feed calling them ableist?? I tried digging deeper but the only people I could see talking about it were Omnia (who's not trustworthy on the best of days especially when it comes to Peaches) and their POS ex (who I don't trust for obvious reasons). HP also seems to have nuked their channel?? I couldn't find it when searching YT. I don't have a Twitter and for mental health reasons I'm not making an account, so can someone please fill me in?

"Internet sex cult" milking, creepy hyperfixation on making money off exposing CSA with dubious proof, doxxing, removal of negative comments, overdramatic ARG-like editing of alleged real, tragic situations, and Patreon. It's what we saw in the MamaMax situation. I think we are getting something similar from BrandonFM, White Basilisk kind-of exposed how much BS his videos have, and is already getting angry, heated comments from Brandon's fans. To me, the fact that Brandon doxxed someone in the "The Dark Side of VR" vid while his only proof were some highly edited discord conversations was a HUGE red flag, and I began to avoid his videos from then.

And no, under White Basilisk's videos, Brandon's fans are not showing any proof on why his debunking is wrong, they are just angry and using ad hominem, like "I can't take u seriously, u have an E-boy avatar" or "Go and stare at the mirror". It's worth mentioning that my negative comment under Brandon's video got removed, and some people in debunk vid comments are saying similar stuff.

I may be just biased since to my critique got removed from Brandon's comments once, so uh, I thought that maybe other people besides me, White Basilisk and a few people from VRchat Reddit may need to also take a look at these. Here you can see people from VR chat subreddit pointing out some stuff I mentioned.

There are two videos by @/whitebasilisk3993 on YouTube exposing and analyzing the cult evidence and some dubious stuff from Brandon's videos. To me, they seem legit and reasonable, but I think we should talk about that so we won't get a MamaMax 2 type of situation yet again. Sources to the original videos are in the descriptions.

Analysis vid /2hr+/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Lkf9F-Amc

Debunking /1hr+/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4slGFsIN2qc

Discussion brought to you by the fact that I very much regret checking in on twitter more often in recent weeks. My biggets twitter disappointment is honestly queer video essayist Caelan Conrad, their twitter escapades have really put a damper on my enjoyment of their content because they seem to spend the whole day dunking on (and thereby engaging with) bigots, and at a certain time it stops mattering how good the comebacks are if you're putting people who want to see me dead on my timeline 24/7 - and honestly, there comes a time where pointing out the amount of divorced Certain Online Bigot is just stops being funny.

Two videos in the past week where he's shown his penis. How is this okay? Also including the weird discord shit it's just too much.