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I have not watched anything from Ethan Klein in years since I grew out of that edgy phase of idubbbz and H3 in the early YouTube days, but it’s pretty clear to me that Hasan is very dishonest about what his purpose is in online politics. I don’t think he actually cares about anything. I genuinely think he’s somehow commodified leftist ideology to generate income for himself in excess amounts ironically in a capitalist fashion, and many impressionable young people have fallen for it.
All this is coming from someone who watched him for two years straight at the height of his career. I know almost all the chronically online lore about Hasan.
I just won’t defend someone like Hasan anymore. Ethan makes some good points against Hasan. Easy examples:
Hasan shouldn’t be allowed to promote terrorists on Twitch
Frogan should be permanently banned from Twitch for the disgusting behavior she emits. (Saying Cracker in a racist way , Making fun of soldiers with PTSD, and also supporting terrorist acts.)
All of those small Hasan orbiter streamers should be banned for calling for the death of other streamers they don’t like (this one is so obvious I couldn’t even counter argue this)
There’s just so many bad actors now. I just want an honest opinion from a Hasan chatter who isn’t blinded by allegiances. I’m critical of people I like all the time, why is it so hard for some people?
Tipster finally made a full stream segment on Bowblax after putting it off for months and also goes more in depth as to how he feels about his dumb takes in the loli controversies, as well as the hypocrisy in Bowblax recently going off on him for it when he actually spoke privately with Tipster about the takes and accepted his reasoning. Tipster covers a lot more but this is basically the stream that everyone has been asking for but didn't think they'd actually get - about as close as Tipster can get to making a URR or Content Nuke on Bowblax.
Things he goes over (timestamps): Quick recap of the Bowblax lore of the past few months - 0:45 - 01:38 ; 4:53 - 6:32
How Bowblax did him dirty in the Keffals saga (something that came out on the final After Hours) 1:38 - 4:55
Bowblax' hypocrisy with the sudden LGBTQ+ support and woe is me tweets regarding people not accepting him following on from the Tipster bully streams (including the pansexual one) and Rainbow Passage drama less than a year ago - he expects the LGBTQ+ community to just forget all the bad that he's done now that he's non binary and is entitled to a different treatment than he gave them 6:32 - 12:15
The twitter interaction that caused the stream segment 12:16 - 15:00
The 'bully streams' 15:00 - 16:38
The extent of the recent Bowblax olive branch and their private discussions (including hour long Bowblax vent calls) despite Bowblax trashing Tipster 16:34 - 18:54
Tipster explains that with the loli drama(s), he got tunnel vision (Toastify knew) over what he saw as a trend of pedojacketing and inserted himself into situations that he shouldn't have been in and made stupid arguments and that he deserves the criticism and owns the Ls but was not defending loli itself. 19:20 - 20:52
The Rum segment - 20:56 - 21:22 (shortest part I think as he's gone over this the most previously)
Tipster calls out Rum (without naming them but he goes off) for being disingenuous and fake for how she threw him under the bus and the irony in that it didn't benefit her at all - he is mad at her comment in the Toastify 'hit piece' videos. 21:22 - 22:34
In regards to Ava Kris Tyson, he stands by his clip saying that it was pretty bad to own the art but regrets trying to rationalise the art in relation to Belle Delphine as it made him look like a 'fucking moron' and that he should have just criticised them for the art but defended them from the overall transphobia at the time although obviously not now after what came out regarding them. I honestly don't know why he didn't just say this earlier rather than dodging the question for months. 22:35 - 24:18
Speaking on the Vaush situation, Tipster states that there was no reason for him to be involved in it and that he deeply regrets dragging Keffals into that once she came in to help him as overall it was just a stupid thing for him to do. 24:18 - 25:18
He acknowledges that he has had a habit of defending people he liked and putting himself in situations he didn't need to be and he has paid the price for that, losing his career as a content creator, his friends and his audience in the process. 25:29 - 26:15
The reason Tipster revisits these 3 situations is that he claims that when him and Bowblax had been messaging each other privately after Josh was getting shit on after September, Bowblax asked him why he got involved in the loli discourse and Tipster explained all of this to him. Bowblax agreed and said Tipster took bad positions but he could see where he was coming from and didn't think he was a pedo (as much as he alluded to it in the bullystreams). 25:20 - 27:08
Tipster is pissed that after he made a slight joke that Bowblax took offense to, it caused Bowblax' outburst on twitter where he brought up the loli stuff as an own, not acknowledging that he knew more about those situations than he was letting on and ignored that when he saw red at the Tipster tweet, once again shitting on someone publicly when he was friendly and had a completely different take in private. 27:10 - 28:17
Tipster believes Bowblax is just as dishonest as he's always been and regrets going easy on him and being nice to him the past few months when he didn't have to - he should have said "fuck off, you're getting what you deserve, karma's a bitch". 28:17 - 29:01
Tipster reached out to Bowblax, heard him out, made sure he was ok and was even open to mending the bridge down the line but after him pulling this stunt he's done. 28:37 - 28:50
He brings up the hypocrisy of Bowblax saying he never said he was done with drama and the clip from days prior where he said that. 29:03 - 29:58
He brings up all the tweets where Bowblax was making jokes and insults in the last year and a half about Tipster and the LGBTQ+ community in comparison to Bowblax' current takes and states that it is his fault that he isn't being welcomed with open arms as he has fostered anti queer viewers with some of his content (there has been the recent discussion over how hard he went with the extent to which he covered the Rainbow Passage stuff) shitting on queer content and labelling people as chasers who grift and that both the LGTBQ+ community and his viewers who he's primed to be against some of that stuff aren't just gonna forget that overnight when he suddenly comes out as nonbinary wearing dresses as he kind of fucked himself. 31:13 - 33:49
Tipster is supportive of all gender expression but personally doesn't understand the hairy feminine non binary thing that Bowblax is a fan of 34:45 - 35:10
Tipster goes over one of Bowblax' twitter interactions where he gets mad at people for 'consistently sexualising him' when they made a joke, something that Tipster finds funny considering that Bowblax is the same person that got mad when Keffals said she was uncomfortable with the sexual harassment regarding his jokes on the throbbin horse cock account. 33:50 - 36:02
Tipster brings up the Animal J. Smith situation and that he deserved to be fired from Rainbow Passage for how he was acting but he disagrees with Bowblax shitting on his kinks in a recent tweet when Bowblax has been complaining about people making fun of his kinks this past month, especially after the leaks, so Bowblax is a hypocrite and Tipster believes that Josh wants this weird thing where everyone should accept him for whatever he wants to do but he should be allowed to criticise others for the same thing. 36:03 - 38:08
He thinks that Bowblax only accepted Tipster being nice to him a few months ago as everyone hated Bowblax at the time and that Bowblax is "one of the fakest motherfuckers I have ever met in my life". 39:50 - 40:52
Tipster's closing statement. "quite frankly let's just say it the way we should fucking say it. You didn't deserve my time you didn't deserve my empathy you didn't deserve me giving you any sympathy whatsoever and I still did it anyway you were a massive fucking dick to me okay and I was still nice to you and your response was to shit on me and basically take back anything that you said to me in private in our private conversations you're a massive fucking hypocrite you're a massive fucking snake and it's no wonder nobody fucks with you anymore because of shit like this you have learned nothing from this situation at all and this is why you'll forever be alone this is why forever no one will ever fuck with you again..." 38:08 - 38:56
Apologies for beating a dead horse with Hasan discourse, especially in the form of an AskReddit-style thread, but this is something I've been meaning to ask after lurking on this sub for quite some time and seeing all the drama unfold.
I know the the newest post on this sub right now is another post asking people about Hasan, and things have been pretty heated with the H3H3 content drop, but with how often he's brought up on the sub (and often defended); really not trying to stole further flam wars in asking this. But I was genuinely curious if anyone here has legit issues with Hasan. Drama he's been a part of, behavior, political takes, people he associates with; anything like that.
I'm asking this to everyone, but in particular, when I pop into Hasan-related threads, I see a not-insignificant amount of comments that go something like "I don't like Hasan, but he's absolutely right/I'm defending him on this". I'm interesting in responses from people like that (though I'm not opposed to any answers).
Edit: and guys, please keep it civil, okay? I'd prefer for this thread not to get locked or deleted due to people escalating things in the comments.
I'm hoping not, I'm just noticing, looking back, he seems to be "at the scene of the crime" with a few notable shitbags. He's done collaborations with Internet Historian and Deadwing Dork, and even if he's a more neutral documentation than most on YT, I feel like no one who went that deep down the Chris Chan rabbit hole can be entirely clean/pure.
The good news is that he seems to be a true Centrist at worst, choosing to stay out of pretty much everything with a "live and let live" perspective, and he denounced fascism in the newest Warrens episode (which is a low bar to clear, but sadly, seems to be one a lot of people are failing to these days).
https://youtu.be/prLGjjvn2sk?si=cpBRtP9FYccjo2LC
Glitch Poachers really made a good video calling out the people who were involved in the whole Twitch Adpocalypse.
I appreciated how he was able to debunk a lot of the misinformation from the people who were baiting views. And I especially appreciated how he called out Dan Saltman escalating and making the whole campaign even more toxic. (I had no idea he threatened people with pictures of their kids).
I also thought it was interesting perspective on how even though there are some crazy ass clips that started the whole ordeal, it became less of a “protecting kids from online extremism” to “duh Hasan takedown”. Where on top of that to be clear — Destiny and Dan are probably the worst people to be taking this moral high ground.
He also mentions how people despite the rules of the commentary community, (going after a creators income) was completely parallel to Dan’s approach. Later in the video Turkey Tom even said how he stepped away from that group.
It’s a really well produced and (actually) nuanced video. I thought I post it here because it covers a lot of ground and mentions a lot of the YouTube side of the incident.
Bronies React: MLP Generation 3
It feels even worse to me knowing Michelle was a minor being convicted to dress and act that way by an almost 30 year old man.
I’m looking for some suggestions if any of you have any on some channels that I can watch that haven’t gotten into big drama situations (mostly referencing the Louis McClung situation going on right now). I like watching these while I work and if any of you have any suggestions, it would be greatly appreciated.
Brandon Buckingham has recently privated his response to allegedly confession to being with underage prostitutes in Thailand who get "tutored after school". In his response he claims that he misspoke and that they were over 21 but they were smart. Seems like a weird thing to say but ok. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCC6MpdVLUk&t=10751s
Timestamp: 2:58:25
In his response disproving the allegations was his friend rapper 'ZillaKami' vouching for him that they were all 21. The reason why this is weird is that Zillakami himself has been exposed for having many interactions with underrage girls and was extremely close. Here is a full video with lots of evidence exposing Zilla: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V-zw-UjDek
The weird thing is that this response was up a few days ago until i saw a superchat saying that brandon had one of the most poorly aged responses to allegations in Turkey Tom's chat. Obviously Tom ignored this and swept for Brandon. I checked again a couple days later and the video was now private.
im curious to as why Brandon has privated his response video due to how poorly it aged. Luckily Papa Gut had done a reaction to this video before it was deleted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORPRENhxGbs&t=454s
It seems weird that Brandon has privated this video especially before making a video calling out DJ Akademiks for grooming a kid when Brandon has also been in questionable positions himself. Seems like he doesn't want this to be out there along with his main response to the allegations being a vouch for alleged PDF zillakami.
https://youtube.com/@akbshow077
Nobody in the comments are calling it out but at the same time the vibes are coming off like they're young and don't know better. More Elsagate 3.0 slop.
This pointless drama would be given the nickname “Boomer Fight”
Example, if you look at this video, you will see no names of people nor locations mentioned. It's always "In 20XX, a group/woman/man/boy/.... have/has [inserting crazy stories]" but never stating the names.
If you decide to do some research, you'd find Jack D. Films referring to this woman. He could just posting an news article in the description but he chose not to put anything at all.
Probably a conspiracy but I think he did this to avoid being called out if his story was deemed wrong or fake. Kinda sad seeing him from posting educational video to being literal content farm.
Another example:
**Sorry, I meant BetterHelp
This question is sparked from the recent post about AdamSomething taking down his video and removing the sponsorship because the backlash was so huge.
In comparison, at least from what I saw, Good Mythical Morning (Rhett & Link) did not receive nearly as much backlash and they've had multiple videos with the sponsorship. I would see a few comments here and there about a fan being bummed that they took the sponsorship, but nothing to the degree of AdamSomething or some other creators. Most comments would be about the video itself when it comes to GMM.
So, my question is, what are some things that determine the amount of backlash toward certain creators versus others? I know the vague answer can be "It's determined by the type of audience or the type of content they produce", sure, but I'm looking for something more specific. What type of audience? What type of content?
I'm not familiar with the audience of AdamSomething, but I feel GMM has quite a large chunk of their fans that are around millennial age, who I would expect would be most likely to call out a creator that has a BetterHelp sponsorship, but I may be completely wrong about that.
I just find it very interesting and was looking for some insight!