Unserious team, barely made the WC in the final game of the season and didn't win a single playoff game. Should probably fire their garbage FO.

You love to see it

Without even throwing a pitch.

^(Fucking Houston)

I found Atkin's press conference pretty disturbing.

Anyone who watched this team (including the manager of team) acknowledges the Jays desperately needs another middle of the order bat. However, Atkins not only seems to not value power all that much, but he also clearly believes power bats are only worthwhile if they don't strike out a lot or are "versatile". Even when Turner was brought in last year, reporting was they liked him more than a player like JD Martinez or Joc Pederson because Turner could play some third and first (he couldn't and can't) and doesn't strike out a ton.

Clearly, that did not work out. However, it seems like this is team's philosophy and we can't do anything about it. My question is, other than winning the Soto lottery, who the hell can we bring in this offseason who can meet that criteria?

The big free agent bats that make sense like Teoscar, Santander, O'Neill, and Adames all have TON of swing and miss in their games. Teo, Santander, and O'Neill are not exactly defensively versatile either and will all likely be DHs sooner, rather than later...

A player like Profar could work, but he likely isn't leaving SD and has had one year of success. Eugenio Suarez, who could be an option at third, likely will have his option picked up and also has a ton of swing and miss.

Joc Pederson could work, but he is strictly a DH. Left handed DH is also a position we are stacked at. Christian Walker could work I guess, but are we comfortable with either trading Spencer or Vladdy playing third base? Same with Alonso

You could try to trade for Rooker but he strikes out a shit ton and can't play the field....

Alex Bregman and Ha-Seong Kim are the only two really big names that at all work but do either move the needle for this team at all? Maybe if Kim could play third base everyday?

I have no clue what to make of this teams plans. There's enough money to really improve the squad this year. But I worry philosophy is a huge problem.

His absolute refusal to part ways with Atkins had me wondering: has Shapiro actually ever fired anyone?

He was GM, and then had Chris Antonetti as his GM, then came to Toronto.

He fired Eric Wedge as Manager, but said the decision was made collectively, and reports from the (at the time Indians) team website specifically mentioned that he was doing so reluctantly, and it appears that owner Larry Dolan ordered it.

Acta was pushed on Antonetti, even though it was again labelled as a "collective decision", and Larry Dolan again made direct references to it.

So, has Shapiro ever fired anyone that ownership didn't demand be fired?

Expand Vladdy, you cowards

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With MLBTR releasing their Arbitration projected amounts, we can get an estimate of the amount available to spend

Guaranteed Contracts: $123.784M for 7 players

• George Springer: $24.167M
• Kevin Gausman: $23M
• Chris Bassitt: $22M
• Jose Berrios: $18.714M
• Bo Bichette: $17.583M
• Chad Green: $10.5M
• Yariel Rodriguez: $6.6M
• Retained salary for Isiah Kiner-Falefah: $1.22M

Arbitration Projections: $61.85M for 10 players

• Vlad Guerrero Jr: $29.6M
• Jordan Romano: $7.75M
• Daulton Varsho: $7.7M
• Alejandro Kirk: $4.1M
• Erik Swanson: $3.2M
• Genisis Cabrera: $2.5M
• Alek Manoah: $2.4M
• Dillon Tate: $1.9M
• Ernie Clement: $1.7M
• Zach Pop: $1M

MLB Minimum for 9 additional players to reach 26 ($760K each): $6.84M

Total Commitments for 2025: $192.474M

This year CBT sits at $241M and last year opening day salary was $250M. This would give the Jays approx $48.5M in salary space to reach the CBT this year and $57.5M if they want to reach last year number. Off this list, the most likely to be non-tendered are Tate and Pop, which would open $2.9M in additional cap space to bring totals to $51.4M or $60.4M being available.

I will assume Jays will operate similar to last year (hopefully without same outcome) where they will have 2 budgets (like last year with an Ohtani and non-Ohtani budget), one if they can get Soto and one if they can't, with the above number probably being the not-getting Soto budget.

"ICE.............COLLLLLLLLLDDD............BEEEEEEEEEER!"

Your top voted person in the previous poll was Wayne McMahon, also known as Ice Cold Wayne. Sorry it's been awhile, but hopefully back on track with these.

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A: Alex Anthopoulos (2009-2015)

B: Jose Bautista (2008-2017)

C: Joe Carter (1991-1997)

D: Carlos Delgado (1993-2004)

E: Edwin Encarnacion (2009-2016)

F: Tony Fernandez (1983-1990, 1993, 1998-1999, 2001)

G: Cito Gaston (1982-1997, 2001-2001, 2008-2010)

H: Roy Halladay aka "Doc" (1998-2009)

I: Ice Cold Wayne (Wayne McMahon) (2002-2008)

1. Extend Vladdy. 11 years 310 million 11 years 365 million

[EDIT: increased value after arb projection came out at almost 30 million. Originally I had based off an arb projection around 25)

2. Sign Joc Pederson (2/25) and Tyler O’Neill (4/65).

Joc had a .921 OPS vs right handed pitching with a .531 slug. TON had a 1.179 OPS vs left handed pitching and a SLUG of .750. Batting them behind Vladdy gives him the protection he needs and they protect each other. Do you really want to bring in a leftie to face Joc with O’Neill on deck and the 3 batter rule?

3. Sign Tanner Scott (4/65).

The bullpen is a mess and Scott is a high leverage arm, who could close if Romano doesn’t bounce back. Between Scott, Romano, Green you should be able to cover off late and close situations. This leaves Swanson, Cabrera and Tate in the lower leverage situations.

4. Sign Carson Kelly (3/18).

He can split time with Kirk 50/50, and either Kirk or Kelly can DH against LHP, instead of Joc.

5. Sign Michael Soroka. (1/2 or 1/3).

If you look at the last couple months it looks like he might have figured it out. Between Francis, Rodriguez and Soroka you have your 4 & 5 starter plus a length guy/spot starter.

6. Resign Ryan Yarborough (2/9).

I liked what he gave us after coming over. A leftie who can give you multiple innings is worth 4.5 a year.

STARTING LINE-UP

1. Horowitz - L - 2B
2. Bichette - R - SS
3. Guerrero - R - 1B
4. Pederson - L - DH
5. O’Neill - R - LF
6. Kelly - R - C
7. Varsho - L - CF
8. Springer - R - RF
9. Clement - R - 3B

BENCH

C - Alejandro Kirk - R
INF - Will Wagner - L
OF - Nathan Lukes - L
UTIL - Davis Schneider - R

STARTING ROTATION

1. Kevin Gausman
2. Jose Berrios
3. Chris Bassett
4. Bowden Francis
5. Yuriel Rodriguez

BULLPEN

RHP - Jordan Romano
RHP - Chad Green
LHP - Tanner Scott
LHP - Genesis Cabrera
RHP - Eric Swanson
RHP - Dillon Tate
LHP - Ryan Yarborough
RHP -Michael Soroka

I know it’s not perfect, but I’m trying to be realistic and I feel like this is doable. Avoids long term deals (outside of Vladdy). Would love to upgrade the bullpen and bench further, but the prospect pool isn’t that deep and I don’t know how much money the front office will actually spend.

I'm an American who just visited Canada for the first time and I attended a Blue Jays game on Saturday. I ordered chicken tenders at one of the food counters and I asked for sauce and the only sauce they offered was Heinz Plum Sauce. Usually in the states I would be offered ranch, honey mustard or at the very least, barbecue. Is plum sauce a Canadian staple for chicken? What's that all about? I'm very curious!

Hey all,

Wanted to reach out and gauge the room on various STM and QSTMs' experiences over the last couple years.

We are a professional couple, live right on Line 1 and probably attended ~20 games this season — mostly in the 500s, with a handful of last-minute lower bowl games purchased on GameTime/StubHub.

Looking for an in-between and it seems like Sec 233/234 (Jays side, second deck) is pretty good value at $71/seat; I feel like this would probably be fairly easy to recoup on games we can't make, and upsell against the Yanks. Are there any other teams in your experience that there is a resale markup for?

Generally curious about what the experience of having your own seat is like, specifically as it pertains to any perks/resale/etc. I am an O's fan who just likes watching baseball, but my partner is a pretty serious Jays fan.

Thanks in advance!

This is a fan message board, right? Not an official one. I just find it kind of strange.