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Will always love this mantra.

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Apologies if this was already posted... I did a quick look through the Hot posts and didn't see anything

<div class="md"><p>Apologies if this was already posted... I did a quick look through the Hot posts and didn&#39;t see anything</p>
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SK on X the other day

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To my (now) 10 month old daughter and reading through y'all's comments tonight on other posts has made me miss the tower so much. 

I've dwindled. Reread some of the first book and parts of The Drawing of The Three (which is STILL 15 years later my favorite—i read it first when I was 15 I'm in my 30s).

I don't know if I could ever read it again and she's too old to hear some of the worse parts again but some of it was so beautiful, especially experiencing Wizard & Glass with all my characters I read in different actual voices for her as a way to soothe her. She was stuck in the NICU for a bit. And I just sort a... Kept reading... It became a nightly ritual and she fell asleep most nights to my voice and the tower. 

I hope one day when she's in her 30s she'll read it. Truly read it for herself. I'm glad I never finished (got most of the way up through The Wastelands in my younger tears before I gave up) and within this last year I read it in its entirety. We did. 

But I just wanted to say thank you guys... Seeing the camaraderie and open discussion among friends and people who all share the same passion for our Tower is truly heartwarming...

Thank you 

<div class="md"><p>To my (now) 10 month old daughter and reading through y&#39;all&#39;s comments tonight on other posts has made me miss the tower so much. </p>

<p>I&#39;ve dwindled. Reread some of the first book and parts of The Drawing of The Three (which is STILL 15 years later my favorite—i read it first when I was 15 I&#39;m in my 30s).</p>

<p>I don&#39;t know if I could ever read it again and she&#39;s too old to hear some of the worse parts again but some of it was so beautiful, especially experiencing Wizard &amp; Glass with all my characters I read in different actual voices for her as a way to soothe her. She was stuck in the NICU for a bit. And I just sort a... Kept reading... It became a nightly ritual and she fell asleep most nights to my voice and the tower. </p>

<p>I hope one day when she&#39;s in her 30s she&#39;ll read it. Truly read it for herself. I&#39;m glad I never finished (got most of the way up through The Wastelands in my younger tears before I gave up) and within this last year I read it in its entirety. We did. </p>

<p>But I just wanted to say thank you guys... Seeing the camaraderie and open discussion among friends and people who all share the same passion for our Tower is truly heartwarming...</p>

<p>Thank you </p>
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I read The Dark Tower aloud

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I finally got around to carving my pumpkin

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>! In various places things are mentioned to be from or on “other levels of the tower.” The one that comes to mind is Walter talking about an instrument that is particular to a different level of the tower. 

How does that fit in with the end where each level of the tower is associated with a life event of Roland’s? 

Does the tower change depending on who enters? This does seem likely because the red king tore up a baby outfit of Roland’s on the second level. 

I’m having a hard time reconciling the tower as “the nexus point of the time-space continuum” with it also being a restart of Roland’s purgatory loop. 

Or is the nexus and other levels just what Roland believes the tower to be thus motivating his journey and dooming him to cycle? Is the space-time continuum not really relevant in the end? Or is his loop keeping everything together in reality? 

My thoughts on the end are very scattered. Part of me thinks it’s just straight tragic and he’s stuck there forever. 

While another part thinks the change with the horn means that each time he can change something small per recommendations or “lessons” on different floors of the tower (the 3 seconds to pick up the horn being called out). And eventually these changes will end up with him giving up the search for the tower. Buuuut then what about the beams? 

Is he doomed to cycle forever or reality will end? !<

I totally get there are probably not concrete answers. I’m just riding the high and hoping to see what others think! 

Edited to add: it makes me so happy to hear your thoughts, it’s really cool to be able to talk about something that has been around for so long. I think I might start another cycle via audio book soon! 

<div class="md"><p>&gt;! In various places things are mentioned to be from or on “other levels of the tower.” The one that comes to mind is Walter talking about an instrument that is particular to a different level of the tower. </p>

<p>How does that fit in with the end where each level of the tower is associated with a life event of Roland’s? </p>

<p>Does the tower change depending on who enters? This does seem likely because the red king tore up a baby outfit of Roland’s on the second level. </p>

<p>I’m having a hard time reconciling the tower as “the nexus point of the time-space continuum” with it also being a restart of Roland’s purgatory loop. </p>

<p>Or is the nexus and other levels just what Roland believes the tower to be thus motivating his journey and dooming him to cycle? Is the space-time continuum not really relevant in the end? Or is his loop keeping everything together in reality? </p>

<p>My thoughts on the end are very scattered. Part of me thinks it’s just straight tragic and he’s stuck there forever. </p>

<p>While another part thinks the change with the horn means that each time he can change something small per recommendations or “lessons” on different floors of the tower (the 3 seconds to pick up the horn being called out). And eventually these changes will end up with him giving up the search for the tower. Buuuut then what about the beams? </p>

<p>Is he doomed to cycle forever or reality will end? !&lt;</p>

<p>I totally get there are probably not concrete answers. I’m just riding the high and hoping to see what others think! </p>

<p>Edited to add: it makes me so happy to hear your thoughts, it’s really cool to be able to talk about something that has been around for so long. I think I might start another cycle via audio book soon! </p>
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I just finished my first DT read through and I’m having trouble reconciling.. 

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Wife just sent this to me. Has me very excited. The author of the article has clearly never read the books (serve the Rays, middle earth). 



<div class="md"><p>Wife just sent this to me. Has me very excited. The author of the article has clearly never read the books (serve the Rays, middle earth). </p>
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New Book?!

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Saw this on a show. Can't recall which one

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Wouldn’t it be cool if Guillermo del toro inputted design ideas? I feel like he would create an amazingly terrifying lobstrocity. 

<div class="md"><p>Wouldn’t it be cool if Guillermo del toro inputted design ideas? I feel like he would create an amazingly terrifying lobstrocity. </p>
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Hot Take;

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Currently on my first trek to the Dark Tower. I’m enjoying the final book but Roland sure does do that impatient gesture quite a lot. I started noticing it earlier in the series and now it’s everywhere. 

<div class="md"><p>Currently on my first trek to the Dark Tower. I’m enjoying the final book but Roland sure does do that impatient gesture quite a lot. I started noticing it earlier in the series and now it’s everywhere. </p>
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“Fingers twirling in that impatient gesture”

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What are your favorite things to listen to while you read the dark tower series?? In the more western leaning parts I have been mostly listening to Dirtwire but I'd love to hear if anyone else has favorites for any of the specific books!

<div class="md"><p>What are your favorite things to listen to while you read the dark tower series?? In the more western leaning parts I have been mostly listening to Dirtwire but I&#39;d love to hear if anyone else has favorites for any of the specific books!</p>
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Music and reading! 

Took me almost a year to find the motivation to finish it. Combination of photography and photoshop. 

<div class="md"><p>Took me almost a year to find the motivation to finish it. Combination of photography and photoshop. </p>
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Finally finished my dark tower piece. Motivation is hard to come by lately. I included a work in progress photo too. Hope yall like it. 

WIP I’ve been working on this painting of the Western Shore with oil pastels

Shoutout @prints_and_giggles for this great cheychain.

<div class="md"><p>Shoutout @prints_and_giggles for this great cheychain.</p>
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Got this great keychain off of Etsy!

Have any of you seen "BANGO SKANK" in real life?

<div class="md"><p>Have any of you seen &quot;BANGO SKANK&quot; in real life?</p>
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Random Event

Anyone in here watch my hero academia?

This is how I see Roland. Lol Maybe less hair...

<div class="md"><p>Anyone in here watch my hero academia?</p>

<p>This is how I see Roland. Lol Maybe less hair...</p>
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All might as Roland??? 

My wife and I are in the midst of our second trip to the tower via audiobook on long road trips. We are coming to the conclusion of Wizard and Glass. We also have a 16-month-old kiddo, and I worry that as the last half of the series gets a lot less kid-friendly, the kiddo gains more understanding. At what point did my fellow audiobook listeners stop listening where their kids could hear, and how old were they when/if you ever restarted?

<div class="md"><p>My wife and I are in the midst of our second trip to the tower via audiobook on long road trips. We are coming to the conclusion of Wizard and Glass. We also have a 16-month-old kiddo, and I worry that as the last half of the series gets a lot less kid-friendly, the kiddo gains more understanding. At what point did my fellow audiobook listeners stop listening where their kids could hear, and how old were they when/if you ever restarted?</p>
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When to stop listening to audiobooks around the kiddo?

i’d love to get a dark tower shirt of some sort but i’m very suspect of custom garments these days. too many folks are using sites that exploit workers to make their custom tees etc. anyone know of a DIYer that sells stephen king shirts?

<div class="md"><p>i’d love to get a dark tower shirt of some sort but i’m very suspect of custom garments these days. too many folks are using sites that exploit workers to make their custom tees etc. anyone know of a DIYer that sells stephen king shirts?</p>
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Source for non-sweatshop dark tower merch? 

So anyone else see a better cult of the White in the Dark Tower than the anti Psychlos cult of Battlefield Earth?

<div class="md"><p>So anyone else see a better cult of the White in the Dark Tower than the anti Psychlos cult of Battlefield Earth?</p>
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King Cult of Ka(ka)

So I'm on my 7th journey to the tower (3rd with the Kingslingers) and something occurred to me during The Wolves of the Calla when the Ka-Tet todash to NYC to see the rose,  It hit me that the Rose in NYC is surrounded by towers where as the Dark Tower in Can'-Ka No Rey is surrounded by Roses...  Interesting.  Never seen this discussed before.  Wonder if Sai King did this intentionally?

<div class="md"><p>So I&#39;m on my 7th journey to the tower (3rd with the Kingslingers) and something occurred to me during The Wolves of the Calla when the Ka-Tet todash to NYC to see the rose,  It hit me that the Rose in NYC is surrounded by towers where as the Dark Tower in Can&#39;-Ka No Rey is surrounded by Roses...  Interesting.  Never seen this discussed before.  Wonder if Sai King did this intentionally?</p>
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Thoughts While on 7th Journey

I should also say that I prepared to finally give up drinking by reading The Shining and Doctor Sleep back to back. They certainly boosted my motivation 🌹

<div class="md"><p>I should also say that I prepared to finally give up drinking by reading The Shining and Doctor Sleep back to back. They certainly boosted my motivation 🌹</p>
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I couldn't find a 1 year sobriety coin that wasn't covered in prayer, so I bought my own.

I love the texture of the paper in the old Grant editions. 

Got some Did-a-chick inspiration for my 40k mini’s. 

Every time I see the number 19 anywhere

Randomly got room 19 when my wife and I stayed at Lake Crescent, WA. right next to the Storm King Trail 🏞️

Took my youngest to the local comic shop for his monthly Spider-Man fix, and what do I find? A complete set (1-6) of The Dark Tower! $14.99 for the whole set seemed like too good a deal to pass up, I look forward to reading these.

<div class="md"><p>Took my youngest to the local comic shop for his monthly Spider-Man fix, and what do I find? A complete set (1-6) of The Dark Tower! $14.99 for the whole set seemed like too good a deal to pass up, I look forward to reading these.</p>
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A lucky find!

Hail gunslingers, I've been wanting a tattoo forever, but after finishing my first trip to the tower I finally decided on what I wanted. A tribute to my Dinh, the guns of Roland Deschain. Hope you all like it as much as I do!

<div class="md"><p>Hail gunslingers, I&#39;ve been wanting a tattoo forever, but after finishing my first trip to the tower I finally decided on what I wanted. A tribute to my Dinh, the guns of Roland Deschain. Hope you all like it as much as I do!</p>
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My first tattoo

I have an older tower piece on my upper arm (needs to be touched up, but it’s the tower, Roland’s gun and a few other elements). Got this done Friday. I ❤️ it sooo much. Obviously I’m nowhere near done, the whole arm is going to be covered. I’m just so psyched to see how it turns out and really pleased with my artist’s take on the references I sent him

<div class="md"><p>I have an older tower piece on my upper arm (needs to be touched up, but it’s the tower, Roland’s gun and a few other elements). Got this done Friday. I ❤️ it sooo much. Obviously I’m nowhere near done, the whole arm is going to be covered. I’m just so psyched to see how it turns out and really pleased with my artist’s take on the references I sent him</p>
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DT sleeve WIP

Ok so..... let me start off by say I LOVE the first three books, wizard and glass is BY FAR my favorite. 

But man..... 

So the series ending is pointless, which at the very least a let down but it's also not even done cleverly, like hidden in the story. It would be one thing if the point was Roland didn't learn his lesson, but it isn't. There isnt a lesson from Roland's view point. 

He was give a vision of the impending end of the world unless he completes his quest. I get king tries to twist this in later books, but that is the ultimate point. 

He is even strung along kinda when he does good things, like saving the beam. The beam thanks him and makes it seem like he is on the right course. 

It doesn't even make sense. 

We are told constantly time only flows 1 way on the keystone world. You cant go back, it's the entire threat of the story, time is running out. So why make the ending counter that? 

Now for other glaring basic writing issues. 

The crimson king does nothing then entire franchise. He is hinted at as the big bad. But his works never even really show up, who is he? Where did he come from? What is his plan? Both Morgoth and Sauron got more developments than him. 

Martin/Walter? Aren't these supposed to be different people? Either way Martin is supposed to be the Sauromon of the story. He doesn't do a single evil thing outside of the first book...... and then dies pointlessly to a brand new character Mordred in the 5th book... 

Mordred show up in the fifth book ( why? Wtf is his purpose? He doesn't add anything or accomplish anything you had a big bad with Martin remeber king? Or maybe use Walter if you need a bigger bad) his entire purpose is to kill Martin, follow for a bit and kill the Billy bumbler? That's it?  

Jake shows up 3 seperate times in this series.... kill him or keep him, stop with the wishy washy. And his death ultimately means little. Which is frustrating since his death meant alot to Roland's character the first time. 

Susana just abandons the quest feels incredibly hollow and a little character assination-y..... it doesn't follow when king had repeatable said they would all continue the quest till thier death with or without Roland. ..

The kid who can draw and erase reality is a ex machine that isnt even interesting, you brought him in cause you couldn't figure out how to deal with the crimson king.  And he leaves just as boring. 

Dandelo markes the 5th type of vampire in the king series. The 3 father Callahan mention, dandello, and then the ones in dr.sleep.  consolidate them man. Which also, dandello was such a let down.... as was his horse which only was there as a reason as why Mordred could be dealt with easily. 

There is more... but man.... I wanted to love this series. But it feels so rush and lazy towards the end I'm surprised it came from king. He made so many basic mistakes it's shocking. 

<div class="md"><p>Ok so..... let me start off by say I LOVE the first three books, wizard and glass is BY FAR my favorite. </p>

<p>But man..... </p>

<p>So the series ending is pointless, which at the very least a let down but it&#39;s also not even done cleverly, like hidden in the story. It would be one thing if the point was Roland didn&#39;t learn his lesson, but it isn&#39;t. There isnt a lesson from Roland&#39;s view point. </p>

<p>He was give a vision of the impending end of the world unless he completes his quest. I get king tries to twist this in later books, but that is the ultimate point. </p>

<p>He is even strung along kinda when he does good things, like saving the beam. The beam thanks him and makes it seem like he is on the right course. </p>

<p>It doesn&#39;t even make sense. </p>

<p>We are told constantly time only flows 1 way on the keystone world. You cant go back, it&#39;s the entire threat of the story, time is running out. So why make the ending counter that? </p>

<p>Now for other glaring basic writing issues. </p>

<p>The crimson king does nothing then entire franchise. He is hinted at as the big bad. But his works never even really show up, who is he? Where did he come from? What is his plan? Both Morgoth and Sauron got more developments than him. </p>

<p>Martin/Walter? Aren&#39;t these supposed to be different people? Either way Martin is supposed to be the Sauromon of the story. He doesn&#39;t do a single evil thing outside of the first book...... and then dies pointlessly to a brand new character Mordred in the 5th book... </p>

<p>Mordred show up in the fifth book ( why? Wtf is his purpose? He doesn&#39;t add anything or accomplish anything you had a big bad with Martin remeber king? Or maybe use Walter if you need a bigger bad) his entire purpose is to kill Martin, follow for a bit and kill the Billy bumbler? That&#39;s it?  </p>

<p>Jake shows up 3 seperate times in this series.... kill him or keep him, stop with the wishy washy. And his death ultimately means little. Which is frustrating since his death meant alot to Roland&#39;s character the first time. </p>

<p>Susana just abandons the quest feels incredibly hollow and a little character assination-y..... it doesn&#39;t follow when king had repeatable said they would all continue the quest till thier death with or without Roland. ..</p>

<p>The kid who can draw and erase reality is a ex machine that isnt even interesting, you brought him in cause you couldn&#39;t figure out how to deal with the crimson king.  And he leaves just as boring. </p>

<p>Dandelo markes the 5th type of vampire in the king series. The 3 father Callahan mention, dandello, and then the ones in dr.sleep.  consolidate them man. Which also, dandello was such a let down.... as was his horse which only was there as a reason as why Mordred could be dealt with easily. </p>

<p>There is more... but man.... I wanted to love this series. But it feels so rush and lazy towards the end I&#39;m surprised it came from king. He made so many basic mistakes it&#39;s shocking. </p>
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Ok so I finished the series... and what a let down..... help me out here

Art print I did, watermark added because people keep stealing my art

You know what is great about this man and these stories?  In the summer of 2004 I read the dark tower 1-5.  I read books 3-5 on a 2 week vacation at the beach. My son who will turn 21 this year was a baby. Wizards was my favorite. I loved the world of Mejis and the story that took place there.  Which is not to take away from the other books it’s just this is where I got completely sucked in and my trip to finish the tower became ka.  I am doing my first full reread since then.  Just finished wizards and you know what is crazy. Not only did I enjoy the book just as much but I spent much time remembering myself 20 years ago floating in the pool reading that amazing story. I remembered my family as it was then.  Before things changed for better or worse.  It was just simpler and I was a much younger man than I am now and just rereading a book brought me back there. So thanks Sai King. Long days and pleasant nights. 

<div class="md"><p>You know what is great about this man and these stories?  In the summer of 2004 I read the dark tower 1-5.  I read books 3-5 on a 2 week vacation at the beach. My son who will turn 21 this year was a baby. Wizards was my favorite. I loved the world of Mejis and the story that took place there.  Which is not to take away from the other books it’s just this is where I got completely sucked in and my trip to finish the tower became ka.  I am doing my first full reread since then.  Just finished wizards and you know what is crazy. Not only did I enjoy the book just as much but I spent much time remembering myself 20 years ago floating in the pool reading that amazing story. I remembered my family as it was then.  Before things changed for better or worse.  It was just simpler and I was a much younger man than I am now and just rereading a book brought me back there. So thanks Sai King. Long days and pleasant nights. </p>
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