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Cambodia or Vietnam?

Hi I was hoping some may be able to share some info on these countries.

I am going to try and teach in Cambodia, so far the vibe is good and I share a common interest in Buddhism.

But I've heard the teaching market is not ideal at the moment and Vietnam is better.

Is this true, and does anyone know if Vietnamese people are basically just as friendly despite not being a Buddhist country like Thailand and Cambodia, in your experience.

I don't have a bachelors, but I do have a TEFL, some work experience and a 4.7 on Preply.

Thanks

2 Comments
2024/04/19
15:13 UTC

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Advice for TEFL Providers in New Zealand.

Hey all,

I'm looking for advice from Kiwis about which providers they used and the experience.

Specifically if anyone used the hybrid online and classroom options available in either Auckland or Christchurch?

I'm about to sign up so would love to know others experiences first

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2024/04/19
09:36 UTC

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Shakespeare themed activity ideas

Hi, I am looking for some light, fun interactive activities to do with an advanced teenage ESOL class around the theme of Shakespeare.

I've been suggested getting them to take it in turns reading lines from soliliquoy (maybe turning into catch the a bean bag and read thing), but that feels a bit bland.

I quite like Akala's Rap or Shakespeare quiz (if you are familiar with that).

Does anyone have any ideas or any links to resources?

Many thanks in advance!

4 Comments
2024/04/19
08:07 UTC

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Advice Request

As the title says I'm looking for some advice. My wife (F36) and myself (M46) are looking at going to either China (or perhaps Korea) or Europe next year as the job market here in South Africa is pretty much dead. To give some context my current contract ends in December and every EFL job here pays about a fifth of what I am currently making. My wife has only ever been able to get sessional positions.

Experience and qualification wise I have a Bachelor's, a PGCE and a CELTA, and have been teaching EFL for about 13 or so years. My wife has a PhD in English Studies, a CELTA, is published and has about 10 or so years tertiary teaching experience.

I have dual South African/German citizenship but my wife only has South African citizenship, however from what I have read the EU laws regarding spouses is fairly lenient and she should be able to get residency there.

I have looked at the wikis and there a lot of useful info there but it's a bit out of date. For the the medium or long term, would Asia or Europe be a better prospect for us?

11 Comments
2024/04/19
05:39 UTC

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Which job in China would you take?

Job 1: 24,000 rmb after tax (includes rent) Kindergarten 8:00-5:00. 45 hours total work per week Two weeks fully paid holiday

Job 2: 16,400 after tax (includes rent) Primary school 12 lessons a week, no office hours. 8 hours total work a week One week half pay holiday.

28 Comments
2024/04/19
04:34 UTC

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Question about the intro video

Hi all, I was born and raised in a non-native English speaking country, and then I moved to the UK and got the passport there. I do have an accent and I do sometimes make mistakes while speaking English.

I want my future school to know that I am not 100% native UK person, I don't want to be sneaky about this at all.

Without hurting my chances of getting hired at schools too much, how should I mention my background? Should I just simply say that I was born and raised in a non-English country?

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2024/04/19
02:35 UTC

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The British Council's Nightmarish Hiring Process

Currently having the worst hiring experience ever on First Advantage!

Any idea what to do if I can't provide proof of experience that's considered acceptable for First Advantage? Especially from someone who has been hired by the British Council before? Can I just tell my employer to disregard my previous experience especially since I'm applying for the Newly Qualified Teacher position which requires no Post- CELTA experience?

What can I do if my entire work experience was with very small start-ups that were created post-COVID and everyone used their personal emails rather than official ones? Or if a business was shut after covid and I can no longer ask them to sign and stamp an experience certificate?

16 Comments
2024/04/18
22:05 UTC

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SEMO MA TESOL?

Hi all! Has anyone here done the online masters in TESOL at Southeast Missouri State University? Ive ben researching the program, and am really interested, but also skeptical. I noticed that the only thing that you need to apply is a 2.5 undergraduate degree. For context, I also have an unrelated bachelors degree. This doesn't seem like a lot for a masters program. I wanted to hear someone's thoughts and opinions on the program. Here are a few questions I have!

  • What did you think of the program?
  • How many hours a week did you spend on coursework?
  • What did you do after your masters degree?
  • Was it worth it?
  • What were the professors like?
  • Did you consider the program to be affordable?

Thank you so much in advance!

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2024/04/18
21:53 UTC

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Why should I stick with teaching ESL/EFL??

I really love teaching English. It just makes sense as an applicable tool that learners can use that has direct implications for them in a way that is, for want of a better word, obvious.

It’s a lingua Franca and I’d love to dedicate my career to mastering the subject so I can teach it.

But the market pays so little. I accepted a job in London at a language school for £22 an hour x 20 hours. That’s around £22k a year.

Meanwhile, there are international schools happy to throw money at teachers qualified to teach GCSE and A level English. I have those qualifications myself at A* level in GCSE and A level and I’m currently taking an English Language degree. If I wanted, I know I could take a PGCE and go the international school route teaching those qualifications, but I genuinely like teaching English as a second language… I just wish the market gave a shit about paying a real salary.

There’s EAP teaching but apart from what is apparently gold dust, and in that sense I mean full-time permanent contracts in the UK, it looks bleak.

Is it time to throw my cards in and go the traditional teacher route?

43 Comments
2024/04/18
20:08 UTC

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Chinese agency somehow offering ultra-fast apostille service for Canada? Opinions please.

Hi there, I'm a Canadian trying to get documents apostilled in Canada so I can teach English in China. Honestly it's a ridiculously slow process in Canada that takes (it seems) at least 4 months to complete. There's one recruitment agency in China that found me a job at a University that starts in September. They actually found me a job for March but the school was unable to wait for me due to the long processing time. And now the problem associated with the new job is that work permits in China require a criminal record check that is no older than six months old. Well the process here in Canada takes so long that my criminal record check will be soon "outdated", and so I will need to apply for a new one, and wait another 4 months for that to be apostilled.

The recruitment agency put me in contact with another agency in China that states they can have documents apostilled by Canada in a week or two, which seems unrealistic to the point that it would be a scam. This is in consideration of the four month wait for a Canadian citizen to do it, and the fact the government apostille service's website states that the process wouldn't be any faster for a third-party to have it done. However this agency insists that they can get it done that quickly. There is basically no communication with the government agency here in Canada to consult with so I can't confirm the possibility with them.

Does anyone have any experience with these kinds of document authenticating agencies, or can otherwise comment on their legitimacy? Their cost is about 3000 yuan, and at the moment I can't afford to potentially lose that money. However I absolutely can't lose this new position and concerned that the ordinary processing time is going to result in just that.

Thanks

12 Comments
2024/04/18
13:10 UTC

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Confused about TEFL providers and the degree requirement

Hi, I wanted to take the TEFL online courses as I'm thinking on perhaps teaching in the future as I'm abroad. However, on the MOOC website I found the 120h TEFL provided by tefl.org prices at 700$+ but on the TEFL.org website it's like 200$+ so I'm worried about it perhaps being a scam since it isn't listed in the subreddit saved posts.

The other question is about the mention of jobs that don't need a degree even with TEFL are decreasing, but I was wondering when they say this, can it be ant degree or does it have to be specifically language/teaching related.

Third question I did read something about being careful what I choose if I'm planning to teach in the big seven or middle east, I shouldn't worry if I just go with the TEFL provided by TEFL themselves right?

Last question sorry, is there ever a reason to take CELTA certification to teach adults when it's part of the TEFL one, or am I misunderstanding?

4 Comments
2024/04/18
10:31 UTC

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Teaching English in China

I come from Eastern Europe and my English is on a C2 level. Is there a way to teach English in China even if I'm not a native English speaker (I have a bachelor's degree and hopefully a TEFL certificate soon)?

Thank you in advance :)

6 Comments
2024/04/18
08:35 UTC

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Anyone have experience working for CareerAsia in China?

It seems that they're a consulting/recruitment agency for several schools in Chengdu, where I'd like to teach. They're affiliated with something called Hua Fu Education Group. People say not to sign with an agency, just a school, but as someone with no teaching experience, basically the only people I've interviewed with have been agencies. I apply to a job, but the person on the other side is not the school, but an agent.

Anyway they say they can 100% place me in Chengdu after onboarding, just wondering if anyone has any horror stories about this place because I can't find much on them online like other companies like Haida or SIE.

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2024/04/18
03:15 UTC

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Should I go through TEFL, or take my chances with JET?

I’m planning on teaching ESL abroad, and haven’t taken any steps forward yet. I’m currently a month away from getting a bachelors and have no idea on what to do after. I’m stuck between differing opinions on whether a TEFL certification is worth it compared to the lottery that JET is. I want to teach English overseas, preferably Japan which is JETs speciality but with only a thousand people a year getting selected it’s a job lottery.

Do I have better chances just getting a certification and going through TEFLs job placement program or should I take the crap shot and apply for JET? I really like the program TEFL has after you complete the cert, they help you get a visa and find work/interviews prior to moving out to Japan but JET from what I can tell is an all inclusive system for ALT placement in a school.

Please help lmao, I’m extremely stressed hearing so many opposing opinions and it’s partly my fault for not having a concrete plan after graduation.

5 Comments
2024/04/17
22:05 UTC

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Saving money in Taiwan/Hangzhou with this salary. Is it possible?

So, I'm a first-timer with no teaching experience. I've got a degree, I'm from the UK and completed a TEFL course (120 hours). I should also mention that I'm black.

So I applied for a job in China and the recruiter got back to me telling me their "best options" are in Taiwan. The salary for that is "starting pay up to NT $650 - $700/hour".

Another job I applied for in Hangzhou, China offered me a salary of 10,000-16,000 RMB before tax with 2500 housing allowance or free accommodation.

Is saving up even possible if I were to accept any of these offers?

30 Comments
2024/04/17
20:07 UTC

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Still unsure if I want to teach abroad

Hello everyone!

I (26f) have been thinking about teaching abroad for a few years now. I mainly thought of it because I've worked in a school in some capacity since 2019. I went back and finished my Bachelors degree and TEFL certification last year.

I have an interview today and I'm so nervous about it because while I do want to do something like this, I'm still contemplating if this is for me or not. I keep asking myself if I actually want to move abroad or if I want to just travel more.

I'm not too worried if I don't find something because I have my current job that I can just stay at (its a state job as well so that's nice). I'm also a bit of a homebody so moving so far from my family makes me pretty nervous. I'm currently battling between thoughts of "It's okay to be comfortable where I am" and "I don't want to hold myself back."

So I guess I just want to know, if you were really anxious about moving/teaching abroad and still did it, how did it turn out for you? Would I be better off teaching English online on the side and just using that to travel more?

24 Comments
2024/04/17
20:04 UTC

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Which country would I most likely get hired to teach English in Europe?

Which country would I most likely get hired to teach English in Europe? I am American, 42 years old and non-EU citizen so from what I've read, it may be limited to non-EU or Eastern Europe countries. Any ideas on which countries have the highest demand for English teachers? I have a TEFL cert and two years of teaching, but that's from 10 years ago. I would do a CELTA and at least a few months to a year of volunteer teaching classes to immigrants here before I go anywhere.

9 Comments
2024/04/17
18:54 UTC

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Question About Hiring

Hello!

I’m about to graduate from my Master’s program and plan to do my CELTA starting on June 17th.

Will I still be able to find a job once I finish in early July?

I’m pretty open to wherever, so the location itself I’m not too worried about. I’m in this so I can have the opportunity to teach and learn new skills.

Though if I had any preference, I speak some Spanish so maybe a country that speaks Spanish.

Any suggestions?

8 Comments
2024/04/17
17:26 UTC

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Odyssey program canada

Hey, I am moving forward with the process for the Odyssey program, Id love to hear about peoples experiences and how they arranged their living situation too, thanks!

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2024/04/17
12:56 UTC

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Through which university should I do my masters in education?

Been teaching in Korea for 4 years now and I want to get more long term financial stability. I'm thinking of an international school or university job eventually.

My considerations for a choice of masters are its cost, time frame, content and whether it is recognised by the education community.

10 Comments
2024/04/17
12:24 UTC

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When do schools in China stop recruiting for September?

Hi all, generally speaking, when is the last month that I need to secure a new job for next September in China? Is July too late already?

I want to keep taking my time as long as possible and not sign on a lower offer now.

6 Comments
2024/04/17
11:11 UTC

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Signed offer letter but got a better TEFL job offer elsewhere

Can I back out of the first job at this point despite signing the offer letter if I still want to work in China? And sign the 2nd job offer letter instead? The Z visa process for the first job has not started yet.

3 Comments
2024/04/17
00:29 UTC

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Do you know any Student Books or materials focusing on Nail/Beauty Salon or Customer services vocabulary?

I have a new GE student who is up to work in a nail salon, and I'd like to teach her some useful professional vocabulary and collocations in addition to our regular course. Any YouTube channels or TV series focusing on the industry would be helpful as well, thanks in advance!

5 Comments
2024/04/16
21:42 UTC

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Considering CELTA

Have been considering TEFL for a long time, but unsure what route you take.

I am planning on staying home in the UK for the summer, and working online alongside in-person teaching if I can find any (I live in the countryside). This winter I'd like to move to France or Italy, or somewhere to travel, so probably still working remotely.

I am interested in teaching in-person full time, but unsure if I'd like to do it right away as I want to explore - although I could always take holidays.

I have been considering taking the CELTA for a few months now as I've heard that it is the most recognised qualification, especially for teaching in Europe. Also, I have 0 teaching experience, and English grammar learning as a native speaker, so I need the in-person interaction.

However, maybe it would be a waste to use the CELTA to teach online, even though I would like to start teaching in-person as well. I am also unsure where to do it: in the UK to be in a familiar place and concentrate on work, or in another country to make connections.

Any advice would be great! X

10 Comments
2024/04/16
09:57 UTC

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What was your experience/story like?

Hello! Newbie here! I've had my TEFL certificate for a while, but I was thinking of doing TEFL as I think it's a superb way to travel and make a living- now that I'm back home with my parents, it's the perfect time to consider the future. Truth be told, I feel lost. What was your experience like as a first time TEFL teacher? Was there anything you wish you knew going in? How do you know if it's right for you (I've only taught a summer term and I thought it was a good experience!)? Any stories and experiences are welcome! You're the greatest! Thanks in advance!

34 Comments
2024/04/16
01:08 UTC

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What is the best abroad option for a teacher with a MA TESOL, K-12 NY state cert, and 15 years EFL/ENL experience?

I think I’d prefer a university teaching schedule if possible to K-12, but would be open to the right situation. It would be tough to leave NYC teacher pay, but hoping to leave the empire before it fully collapses and want a nice life in an interesting place. What are my options?

3 Comments
2024/04/15
22:41 UTC

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Teaching English as a native English speaker from the Caribbean?

Hello~ So I’m American, born and raised, however, I do have dual citizenship because of my ancestry with an English-Speaking Caribbean country as well. I’m thinking of moving to the islands, but I also still want to have the option to teach English abroad with my Caribbean nationality too, as I don’t see myself continuing to live in the US long-term after I graduate. I see requirements such as having to be from one of these 7 Native English speaking countries: US, Canada, the UK, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa for many programs. As we all know, there’s plenty more English speaking countries than just these 7. So, has anyone else had experiences of teaching English abroad from an English-speaking and is not from those 7 countries? If so, where do/did you teach? Is there a reason why some programs are more picky or specific in terms of deciding which countries they’ll allow teachers to come from?

Thank you! Any and all suggestions and responses are appreciated :)

25 Comments
2024/04/15
20:54 UTC

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Can you apply for TEFL positions in different country if you’re already teaching abroad?

Hi! I am planning to apply for my first TEFL position in Spain for the 2025/2026 school year. I am really looking forward to beginning this journey, but I know that I want to explore teaching in other countries after spending 2-3 years in Spain and I’m wondering if it is possible/reasonable to apply for programs in places like Japan/Korea/China while I’m already abroad in Spain? Or would I need to return to my home country (US) before applying anywhere else? Do any of you have experience bouncing between different countries uninterrupted? If so what was your experience/would you recommend it? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

6 Comments
2024/04/15
18:09 UTC

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"Your Take on the New Rules by the MET Vietnam for ESL Teachers / Expats"

Vietnam Ministry of Education and Training has issued new rules for outsiders seeking ESL jobs Foreigners / Expats.

They are calling it COMPREHENSIVE TRAINING COURSE excluding TEFL / TESOL / CELTA.

What is your take on this?

120 Hours of Learning modules / Cultural immersion.

25 Comments
2024/04/15
07:12 UTC

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Help me with this

I’ve read here that having a Bachelor’s degree is really important to get a TEFL job abroad, so I think I have a problem. I’m studying to be an English Teacher is secondary schools in my country (a 4-year long career), but it’s not recognised as a university degree but as a tertiary degree.

Will this cause me any problems when looking for jobs abroad? Even if I am a qualified teacher in my country?

16 Comments
2024/04/15
05:26 UTC

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