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Welcome to r/IWantOut: Reddit's expatriate community. Please take a look at the sidebar for some tips for getting the most out of it.

Welcome to r/IWantOut, Reddit's expat subreddit. Please read the sidebar for general advice and helpful links.

If you want out of wherever you live, we're here to help.

Got questions? Want advice and experience from people who have gotten out or are still trying? Have a good tip or a success story to tell? Just need support? No matter where you're from or where you're going, you're welcome here.

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  • Permanently residing in a country in which you currently don't have citizenship almost always requires a visa (legal permission to live there). Visa rules differ depending on the country/region, but they generally require that you demonstrate a good reason for moving there: family, in-demand skills, pursuit of higher education, etc. It can be a daunting process, but if you're serious about getting out you should thoroughly research the visa you'll need to obtain to do so. Some of the links below might help.

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[IWantOut] 27M Engineer->France

Hey everyone,

I'll try to keep this as brief as possible. Basically I met my gf while she was on an exchange program in the US about 1.5 years ago, though we've only been dating for ~6mos officially. We've both gone back and forth to visit one-another for periods ranging from a few days to a month. I'm trying to figure out how I can move out and be with her.

I'll give a little background to our plans and current circumstances:

I actually work for a large French company (but only have been in this role for a few months). I actually also worked for another large French company (both in the US btw, niche industry that the US can't self-supply) before this one for a year on a contract, which is actually how we ended up meeting. So I do have work experience with French entities. I do not, however, speak French, or it's only at a very basic level. I've only taken one course since meeting her. I'm about to restart courses though as my current company is willing to help pay for them. Fwiw I picked up Spanish in HS and speak it at a conversational level now so I don't find learning a new language to be intimidating, and tbh I think it'll be fun bc I like etymology and romance language linguistics.

Ideally we'd move to Paris, as she has friends there, but I understand the COL there compared to other places is high. I have some savings so I could prove that I can support myself (another post on here said ~$15k or so in savings would be sufficient to prove I don't intend to work, not sure how accurate that is). She works a high-income job so money wouldn't be a huge issue, but she probably wouldn't make enough to support both of us in a place like Paris long-term. At the very least I think I'd need to be able to work part-time after the first few months. I do own half an inherited property in the US which could be rented out to generate a moderate passive income, but not enough to really survive on I think (maybe a few hundred $/month).

It seems I have a few options based on what I've read here already, but tbh idk what kind of immigration programs I should even be googling or what the best fit would be. The way I see it, these are my current options:

-school: I have a BS from an American college in civil engineering and ~5 years of work experience in a specialized sector which has a big, but saturated market in Paris, and within France generally. I'd probably go to school to get the equivalent of a master's degree in engineering/construction management, an MBA if possible, or perhaps in a totally unrelated field out of pure interest (classical studies/history/political science). I realize I'd need to speak French at a high level for most of these programs, but it seems there are some schools which also offer courses taught in English or in conjunction with French lessons. I would try to learn as much French as possible before going but it wouldn't in all likelihood be conversational within my time frame (mid-late 2025, sometime around July or after). From what I understand, you can usually work a part-time job to support yourself through school, but idk how accurate that is and what limitations come with it. Tbh I don't even know if I could get accepted to some of the schools in Paris. It seems a 2-year masters program would give me enough residency time to get a work visa in addition to local industry contacts. This seems like the most obvious and common route to me.

-professional work/visa sponsorship: I could talk to my company about getting an internal transfer. As I haven't been working for my current employer very long though, I doubt this would be on the cards at this stage. I really don't know what the hoops look like that I'd have to jump through in order to attain sponsorship, and whether that's even something companies would be inclined to do. While my skillset is specialized, by no means am I the kind of technical savant I'm imagining international professional transfers to be. I'm good at my job but I'm also only 27 without an advanced degree, and I understand a BS is kind of not considered a full university degree due to the different education systems. I'm also pretty hazy on the details of this.

-marriage/PACS: just gonna address this straight up - neither of us is prepared to be married. We haven't dated that long and we haven't lived together long-term yet. However, some of her friends are PACSed and she's open to that option, but I looked into this and couldn't find any great resources (in English) about whether a national can be PACSed with a foreigner, or what rights that would entitle me to. It would give us a "less official" way of being together without actually tying the knot, allowing us to further develop our relationship. I don't know much about PACSing but understand it is essentially an administrative marriage, and apparently her friends who are dating use it for the tax advantages but don't really consider themselves as "married." Idk the details as it seems like this is functionally a marriage as PACS was created to streamline same-sex marriage implementation, but as I said, it's still a little unclear to me.

-teaching English: this one seems less feasible as it seems the market in Paris is going to be oversaturated and I'd find it hard to get a job (which likely wouldn't pay well anyway). I don't actually know much about this option besides having researched TAPIF, but I don't think I'd qualify as I don't speak French (it seems like most people in that program have taken it at the university level already). I'm not really sure about other programs though.

In an ideal world, I'd get to stay in my particular industry (or work towards a degree that could support my career) so I'm not spending time out of my specific market. I'd like to move sometime after July, as I'll probably need to sell the apartment and furniture beforehand. For a variety of reasons though that money will be tied up, so I don't think I'd use it to buy a place in Paris in case thats another way of getting residency (although I'd like to hear people's thoughts on that if you have any). If I had to though, I wouldn't mind working a part-time job and taking concurrent french courses or something if the professional market isn't available to me at this time. It just seems all the resources I've read all say the same thing - it's very hard to get work authorization unless you're married to a French person or are outright sponsored by your company to go there.

I'm just wondering if there's anyone here who has been through or is familiar with this experience. I really wanna make things work but the French bureaucracy seems daunting to a non-francophone with minimal understanding of the internal processes of the country. I'd love to hear from y'all though. Thanks!

Tl;dr: an American with (legally) almost no connection to France wants to move to Paris to be w my girlfriend. I don't think it's as simple as applying for jobs in my industry and expecting to get visa sponsorship. So what're my options?

2 Comments
2024/12/02
03:10 UTC

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2024/12/02
00:59 UTC

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[IWantOut] 26M USA -> Australia

So, I've been looking into paths to permanent residence in Australia and I know my options are VERY limited bc I don't have a college degree, but here's what I've come up with so far.

I have 3 years of experience as an admin assistant, so im planning to find sponsorship as a personal assistant. First, I'll head over on a Work and Holiday visa for a year and spend that time doing temp admin work. Then, I'll apply to stay another year on a study visa and get a diploma in Business Administration. I'm hoping by then, I'll have networked enough to find an employer to sponsor me on the 494 visa, which would allow me to work in regional AU for up to 5 years and apply for PR in 3.

How does this plan sound?

I know that it'll be more than tough to find sponsorship for admin work, but right now, I just wanna know if this sounds feasible. Thank you all!

18 Comments
2024/12/01
23:13 UTC

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[IWantOut] 22m Australia -> Germany

Hello everyone,

I am a 22 yo Aussie who is born, raised and works here in the aviation industry since December 2022. Lately I've been really wanting to move across the world to somewhere in the EU (preferably Germany) and continue working in this industry, if possible.

My plan isn't to move any time soon, possibly a while, so I thought to try gather some opinions firstly from people in Germany themselves.

I'm still a bit unsure as to what I want to study. I really love the aviation industry and hope to stay there for a while. I did study engineering (mechanical and mechatronic) for a year until I figured out it wasn't for me at the moment, so I've decided to take a little break from study and pick back up soon.

What would my options look like if I'm looking to move in the future?

6 Comments
2024/12/01
05:59 UTC

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[IWantOut] 29M Australia -> USA

29M Australia -> USA

29M currently working as a doctor in Australia as a psychiatry resident. I have Australian, UK and Hong Kong SAR citizenships, wanting to move to the USA eventually and settle.

I don’t think working as a doctor in the USA is a feasible option given the multiple hurdles. I will be completing a Masters of Business Administrations in Europe next year (INSEAD) so I am willing to start in an alternative career path that will allow me to come to the US. Please recommend any guidance thanks.

36 Comments
2024/12/01
02:30 UTC

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[IWantOut] 33M Romania -> New Zealand

Hi there, I'm an IT worker from Romania with 10+ years of experience and for quite some time I've been eying out New Zealand as a potential new home. On the surface, from the searches I did online, it seems great in all aspects: climate, nature, culture, not to mention the geopolitical location in these troubling times.

Then I checked the immigration process and I gotta be honest: it feels like a scam. 6k+ just so they take a look at your application for a skilled worker visa? Really?

To be clear, I can stomach this expense and have enough money for the plane ride there and back, and to support myself for quite some time. Not a freeloader, fully expect to pull my own weight and as you can see English is a given.

But there's another catch: none of the NZ employers I could find online seem to be open to offer you a job if you don't already have a work visa. So you're sol: can't get work because no visa, can't get visa because no job.

As friendly and great NZ is advertised, the process to actually go there is, to me at least, downright hostile. Am I missing something or is there a better way to approach this? Thanks in advance!

4 Comments
2024/12/01
00:34 UTC

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[IWantOut] 28M USA -> Ireland

Hello!

I'm a 28 year old American with ancestry in and a strong cultural fondness for Ireland, and as I am becoming increasingly disillusioned with American life as well, I believe it's high time I start getting to work on my longstanding dream of relocating to Ireland.

Unfortunately, I missed the opportunity to gain citizenship from a grandparent by a couple of generations, and so a work visa seems to be a better bet. I understand that, as an EU country, Ireland has strict immigration rules around professions, and as such I was looking at their "critical skills" list. I do understand that there is demand for programmers, and I do have experience in that field, primarily around data engineering and data science, especially automation engineering. With that background, where should I start? Am I likely to qualify for the critical skills and occupations? Thank you in advance!

20 Comments
2024/11/30
18:22 UTC

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[IWantOut] 20M Turkey -> Finland

I have an advanced knowledge in English, I speak Turkish natively. I also know Russian a little bit, but the knowledge I have is around A1 level.

I can do any job that's offered, but if I were to choose, I would choose to work with computers. Talking about computers I almost know anything about computers. I can do anything on windows and I also have wide range of knowledge on computer hardwares. So I would say I'm an advanced PC user.

I have clear communication skills, and I'm a polite person.

I don't know Finnish yet, but I'm sure that I can learn it.

I'm currently studying translation and interpretation at a university. I like people, and people like me.

I'm thinking about first going to Finland, and find a job, and then going back to my country and getting a residence permit, and finally going back to Finland and start working there until I fully learn Finnish, and become a citizen of Finland.

So what are your thoughts on this? What should I do? I have the money to support me in this journey by the way.

19 Comments
2024/11/30
12:30 UTC

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[IWantOut] 23M China -> Germany\Sweden\USA

I am a Chinese citizen and want to immigrate to Europe or the USA. I MUST get out of China.

Immigration >>> Work (salaries, etc ...)

My preferred career:

Research scientist/engineer/programmer in CFD/CAE/CAD/3D printing (anything related to computational & applied math & engineering) >> Graphics programmer in games/VFX... >> Other careers relevant to math/cs >> Others

My background:

  • Bachelor's in computer science with a GPA of 90.7/100 (reference: my university's QS & US News ranking: 200-400)
  • TOEFL 102 (Speaking 23 Writing 24); GRE 331 + 3.5
  • Just started learning German and don't know other languages except Chinese and English
  • NO industry job/intern experience; One academic research internship (remote in the USA) & NO publication
  • My parents will support me financially during my studies. I wish the total costs (fee + tuition + living) could be under ~60,000 EUR. Up to ~110,000 EUR may be acceptable, but I am unsure because of the bad economic conditions.
  • I am a transgender man who has done part surgeries and changed my legal gender in China, so the availability of medical care is also important.

Currently, I have these plans:

  1. Direct PhD in computer science in the USA, and then find an industrial job in the USA or Europe
  2. English-taught Master's in computational & applied mathematics/computational science/computational engineering/computer science in Germany/Sweden, and then:
    1. find local work
    2. continue a PhD in Europe, then find industry work
  3. English-taught Bachelor's in mathematics/physics in Germany/France/Netherlands/Sweden/...

During my studies, I want to try my best to learn local languages (in the USA PhD case I may learn German/French) + find industrial interns.

FOR 1: Since I am a Chinese citizen, immigrating to the USA seems to be hard and takes an extremely long time if not impossible (unless I can pass EB1A, but I am not so confident in research + my area is not AI/ML/... even my prospective professor has only 200+ citations). And, now there is only one chance for me (a new assistant professor in one Ivy school).

However, if I could (maybe nowadays it is not easy as well) take several internships during PhD in the USA, I may save a lot of money + learn another language during PhD -> seek new immigration opportunities in Canada/Europe (but I don't have local experiences/connections, maybe it is not easy as well).

FOR 2: I heard that nowadays you must have at least C1 proficiency in German/Swedish to find a job as an international student ... I don't know if I can self-study to C1 level as a total beginner + do sufficient internships within just two years (maybe three years for Germany), not to mention I have to take courses as well.

This is why I am also considering applying for a PhD after this (or restarting a new bachelor's) since I think I can have more time to master the local language + PhD is counted in the work and residence period, but I don't know the possibility of landing an industrial job or being accepted to a PhD program.

I don't want to go back to China after completing the degree!

FOR 3: I think redoing a bachelor's gives me more time to learn the language and do internships + I like math/physics and want to do relevant jobs, but it takes more time and money. Besides, there are fewer choices of English-taught bachelors in Europe. The only one in Germany I found is International Physics at the University of Leipzig. The Netherlands has more, but they are more expensive unless I can get the scholarships (same for France/Sweden/...). Another choice is to first study the local language for one year to C1 level and study with the local language, but studying in the country costs a lot of money as well + takes more time.

Here are some of the master's programs I am considering. I am not sure about the admission chances because of course matching.

  • Computational sciences@FU Berlin
  • Computational engineering@FAU
  • Math in Data and Tech@Freiburg
  • Applied CS@Gottingen
  • CS@Passau
  • Simulation Sciences@RWTH
  • Computer Simulations for Science and Engineering@KTH
15 Comments
2024/11/30
03:42 UTC

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[IWantOut] 18F US -> Italy

Hi everyone! I'm a Data Science and Spanish first year Dual Degree student in the US and I'm planning on pursuing a career in soccer analytics. I'm hoping to work an internship this summer in the industry at a tier two or three (one if I can lol) team in Italy and I'm wondering if anyone has any tips for applying to roles like this in Italy since I've had a difficult time finding info about internships. Also just want to add that I do speak Italian so that's not an issue for me.

12 Comments
2024/11/29
19:45 UTC

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[IWantOut] 23M Algeria -> Poland/Germany/Sweden/Italy/Spain

[IWantOut] 23M Algeria -> Poland / Germany / Sweden / USA / Australia

I have a master degree in chemical engineering im currently working in the filed of oil and gaz but i love programming my goal for the future is to land a job abroad as a software engineer and immigration require you to have a degree in the same filed. do you think i should quit my job and study cs

18 Comments
2024/11/29
17:35 UTC

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[IWantOut] 21F Canada -> UK

I am planning to move to the UK within the next 2 years. I am an EU and Canadian citizen but want to move to the UK to live with my partner of 7 years. I have more or less figured out the best path for my moving, spoke to emigration services, done my research...this post isn't so much about that. The only obstacle I'm currently facing is my family who are quite against me moving there. I have visited the UK multiple times now (for 1-2 months each time) and have been thinking about it for the past couple of years so this is not a spontaneous decision and I firmly believe this is the country I want to live in (neither me nor my partner like Canada so the option of him moving here is not something we desire). I am an adult so realistically I don't need "permission" from family to move to a country, let alone one that's pretty equal in terms of living conditions. However realistically the main reasons I have given them for my decision are mostly feeling-based, very little of them are practical. I was hoping that people here that have already done the move (Canada -> UK) can provide me with some positive practical points about the UK, things you feel are better in terms of life in the UK, etc.

I hope this is an appropriate post to make to this reddit but I am quite desperate to talk to people that have done the move so really, any points would help :)

51 Comments
2024/11/29
13:29 UTC

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[WeWantOut] 40m 39f 17m 16m 15f United States -> Germany

My wife (39f) and I (40m) have thought for years about moving out of the country. I'm partial to Germany, for various reasons, and we've visited multiple times.

I am a software engineer and think I could get a job under the Blue Card or even the Chancenkarte. I know I can research this, it's not a given, etc.

My big concern is our teenagers. Our oldest would be 18 or 19 by the time this happens, and my understanding is that he just couldn't come with us, other than to stay for 90 days at a time.

Our next oldest would likely be 17. If I have a residence permit, we're living in Germany, and he turns 18, does the clock start ticking for him too?

I've had a hard time finding good information about this specific scenario, and I'm just wondering if it's as bad as it seems. An I missing something? Is there a better option, still in the Shengen Area, for families dealing with older children?

Update: I get that this may be extreme. I don't think it's something we'll ultimately pursue, but I want to have all the information I can as the situation changes. I'm trying to set politics aside, but a certain person has made certain promises, and while he's likely just a liar, I'm not going to sit, do nothing, and just hope.

Also, side note, I have considered and can afford international school, so that was likely part of the plan.

25 Comments
2024/11/28
21:16 UTC

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[IWantOut] 20sM Indonesia -> Denmark

Hi everyone,

I’m currently considering the possibility of moving to Denmark for work and would really appreciate any advice or insights from those who have experience living or working there. Specifically, I’m curious about:

  1. The process and requirements for obtaining a work permit.
  2. Industries or job roles that are in demand for international professionals.
  3. Tips for adapting to life in Denmark, including cultural or social norms.

If you have recommendations for resources, communities, or organizations that could help, I’d love to hear about them. Thank you in advance for your help—it means a lot!

Looking forward to your replies! 😊

4 Comments
2024/11/28
14:50 UTC

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[IWANTOUT] 26M Mechatronics Engineer Pakistan -> Canada

Hey everyone! I have a Bachelor's in Mechatronics engineering and have 3 years of experience as an engineering operations manager. I am confused regarding the job market in Canada. I wish to persue masters in robotics or AI, but then there would be no such jobs there. Other option i thought about was applying for masters in engineering management. My ultimate aim is Canadian PR. I would appreciate your advice about decent affordable universities, cost of living and obstacles in PR.

Let me knkw if you need more information. Thank you

9 Comments
2024/11/28
15:07 UTC

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[IWantOut] 24F USA-> UK/Ireland/Spain/Italy

Hi, I am a 24 year old working in IT consulting in Los Angeles currently. I have always wanted to make the move abroad and I finally feel that I am at a place to do it as my lease is coming to an end and I am beginning my search for a new job. Here are a few things about me:

- I have a bachelors from USC in Health and Human Sciences and a Masters from NYU in Biostatistics (graduated from both at the top of my class and have many school/ professional references)

- Im fluent in Spanish (first language) and am business level proficient in Italian

- I'm fluent in SQL, R, Python, and C and am looking to stay in the healthcare/ consulting/ IT space

- I qualify for the HPI visa in the UK but was wondering about if this is worth it/ should I apply for jobs first and then the HPI once I get a job, or the other way around? London is probably my top choice place to move.

- I qualify for citizenship by decent in Italy, but need a way to acquire my grandfathers birth certificate from Italy and am also looking for advice on this

- I threw in Ireland as my boyfriend will be pursuing his MBA there, but figured it may be hard to get a workers visa

-I currently make 6 figs but I am NOT bothered by taking a salary cut. I have been smart with my money post-grad and I am looking for new experiences in a new place, not to make a ton of money off the bat.

- I have been accepted to a few MBA programs in the UK and Ireland but will only go back to school if nothing else pans out for me and would rather get a job.

- I am looking to move by next summer/fall.

Thank you all for your advice, it is much appreciated :)

22 Comments
2024/11/28
01:51 UTC

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[IWantOut] 27M Dubai -> UK

Hi.

I'm a UK national with a BSc in Computer Science but was never raised/lived in the UK. I grew up in 3 different countries. I have only spent 4 years in the UK for university before moving back overseas to live with family.

For the last 4 years I never worked a job after graduating (in 2020), but I did run/manage a successful sports business. I was advised to stay in the UK after graduation and find work, but I didn't do that due to lock down fears I wanted to be with family.

Now I really do want to move back to the UK to start a career and live away from where i grew up. My inquiry isn't around visas since I'm already a UK national. My inquiry is leaning more towards the road map of setting myself up there and how to do it.

Is it advisable to fly back, stay in a hotel and apply for jobs there? OR could I apply whilst being out the UK and find something?

I also want to know how much will I struggle to rent a place? Considering I don't have a credit score, and never worked in the UK.

Lastly, how is the current economy over there when it comes to pay and jobs? Is finding work very hard? Just an FYI even though I do have a Computer Science degree from a reputable UK university, its not something I'm passionate it nor would want to work in that field.

15 Comments
2024/11/27
21:09 UTC

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[IWantOut] 27F US -> UK, Ireland

Im 27F. Born and raised in the US. I have 3 citizenships. One of them is Ireland.

I have family in both the UK and Ireland.

I want to move to Europe. I would like to move to Germany in the future, but until my language level is efficient enough I'm thinking about either the UK or Ireland. I'm okay with any city in the UK, though I didn't get to see all of them. And I haven't been to Dublin since I was a kid.

I want to work full time when I move. I would also like to continue my education if possible, while working.

  • I only have a high school education but I'm planning on going back to school upcoming semester. I would like to pursue a mathematics degree.

  • I'm also only at $9k right now, but could really start putting money away if I started grinding.

  • I have two small parrots. I can't live without them. I'm concerned about finding accommodation that includes them in a market that's already on hard mode. I've always lived at home so I've never lived with roommates before, but I like the idea. I'm a social person and get depressed being alone all the time. (I tried living on my own for 4 months years ago and got very depressed). Though I don't know if that would be an option with the birds.

  • Riding motorcycles is a huge part of my life. I tried getting insurance last year in the UkK and it was tough (I ended up not getting it for other reasons). If anyone has any advice there, it would be appreciated. I would like to ride around mainland Europe eventually.

Why I want to move:

  • I currently live at home and if I'm going to pay rent to live somewhere, I want to be happy living there

  • I can't find a decent job where I live because it is rural. So I have to move away to start my life.

  • Being in a rural area makes it difficult to make friends and date. I'm starting to go a bit stir crazy.

I'm aware that we're in an international housing crisis right now. I was wondering if anyone had feedback on which cities were lesser evils (compared to London).

29 Comments
2024/11/27
17:43 UTC

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[IWantOut] 33F Dental Hygienist Japan -> UK

Hey everyone!! I’m posting this on behalf of my gf. We’ve been in a LDR for nearly 2 years and we’d like to close the distance but we’re not yet ready for marriage. I think the best way forward for us would be for my gf to move to the UK, but I realise beggars can’t be choosers and I’d consider all options available! Whether that be me moving to Japan or both of us moving to a third country.

About Us

F33, Japan passport only, family in JPN and France, 3-year Associate Degree in Dental Hygiene, 10 years experience, sidehustle teaching English online. Speaks Japanese and English.

M33, UK & EU passports, family in UK, Bachelors in Maths (2:1) from a decent Russel Group uni, Financial Risk Management (FRM) certificate too, 7 years exp in Retail Banking (Credit Risk) but not a high flyer ~ Senior Analyst/Associate level. Basic programming skills. Speak only English.

As a starting point my gf should start the process of registering as a hygienist with the GDC, and then she would be able to find a clinic to sponsor her (dental hygienists are on skills shortage list). HOWEVER I’ve heard that registration can take around 15 months… and then who knows how long it would take to find work. So this is a medium-term strategy that is too risky to rely on alone.

So… that leaves us looking for some shorter-term strategies. And where I need help from anyone with more knowledge than me:

  • Does anyone know of any Japanese companies in London worth applying to?

  • What would be the cheapest way of getting her a graduate visa? (Bear in mind she does not have a bachelors, which may limit her options for doing a masters)

  • What are my options for moving to Japan? How much would a masters cost? Would I be able to find work without knowing Japanese? Would teaching English be a decent option for me?

  • Are there any third countries we can consider? I have EU citizenship but no languages beyond English.

In the meantime I need to learn Japanese, and try to build skills that lend themselves to working remotely like programming or creating my own business. Then we would be able to spend 3-6 months in each other’s countries on tourist visas. Not an ideal solution though.

Appreciate any advice you legends can provide 🙏🏻

EDIT: I’ve since had a call with an agency to help with the GDC application. For Dental Hygienists the total process of registering can be as little as 4 months, not 15. That is 1 month to prepare the application and 3 months for the processing of it. The 15 months I’d heard about was for foreign DENTISTS registering as hygienists. The agency also provided info regarding university, and claimed she’d be able to do the last year of a Bachelors degree. The final year of a Public Health degree could be as little as £14k.

I’ve looked into the unmarried partner visa and it sounds viable for us. We will attempt this in conjunction with the GDC registration.

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2024/11/27
13:08 UTC

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[IWantOut] 49m Software Engineer United States -> Chile

Current status of move: Preplanning. Doing a lot of reading at the moment.

Background: I currently live in Kansas City. I lived in Chile from '94-'96 as a mormon missionary. While I am no longer mormon, or even religious, I absolutely loved my time there. I was primarily in the Octava Región and lived everywhere from Concepción proper to Collipulli. I have maintained my ability to speak Spanish. However, I am pretty rusty so I recently enrolled in a program to get back to being effortlessly fluent. I am looking to get a DELE or SIELE certification as evidence to employers that I am actually fluent. Duolingo tells me I'm currently at the "high B1" level, for whatever that is worth (not much). I have over 20 years experience as a software engineer, currently a team lead, though that's such a nebulous term. Back end, java, big data, infrastructure (AWS and OCI), ruby, and whole bunch of other stuff. It is just me moving, I am a divorced, empty-nester. I am not absolutely dead set on Chile, but since I have familiarity with it and loved everything about the country when I was there in my early 20s, it is the obvious target country for me. It has also always been part of my retirement plan. I am planning to visit sometime soon to scout out and revisit some places I knew. I hope to maybe also use this visit to do some paperwork and start the immigration process. I'd like to make it there before winter hits, so February/March timeframe.

The entire process of immigrating appears to be a morass of paperwork and planning with no real guide. There are general guides, which are helpful, but nothing specifically for Chile. I'm aware of the types of visas that Chile has and for which I think I'm eligible. I'm looking for permanent residency. I might have enough retirement income for the retiree visa, but that is realistically 10 years out, so I'm looking to work. My current employer has a policy that I must be on payroll in the country in which I reside/work. While that's not ideal, they do have offices in Las Condes, so there is already a presence in the country. I have already spoken to my management about workplace mobility. I know I've got marketable skills, but I know the US job market, not the Chilean market. I am following a few Chilean subs and r/chileIT is one, so I'm starting to follow it. This ties into financials, and that's a whole other montón de cosas.

So, my question is really where do I start? So far, I have renewed my passport, started refreshing my Spanish fluency, and done a bunch of reading on the process. So, I've technically already started, but that's the easy stuff. I've been reading about apostille and the absolute mountain of potential papers I need to get through that process is...daunting. Divorce papers, diploma, transcripts (maybe), birth certificate, etc... Then there is banking, which I honestly haven't even looked at yet. Then there's healthcare, and taxes... I'm less worried about healthcare since Chile has universal healthcare, though I know its got some mixed reviews, but I'm just not terribly familiar with it. I've been starting to follow Chilean politics and apparently they just unanimously passed some immigration reforms to reset a few things.

I was not a fan of the rainy half of the year when I was in Chillan, Mulchén, and Collipulli in the 90s. Then again I was outside in that cold and rain all day, everyday, knocking doors back then. It would be different now. All that I really need is a good internet connection and a roof over my head. I know Pucón is a popular expat spot. Santiago is the big city, but I'm not sure if it'd suit me. Concepción is what I know, but tech jobs are in Santiago. If I decide to live more to the south I'd prefer something coastal for the ocean's natural ability to regulate weather, not to mention sunsets. If I were to live more in and around Santiago the coast isn't nearly as important.

Thank you for reading this far, and I apologize for the jumbled nature of this post. There is a lot flying through my mind right now, organizing them is a real trick. If you have any experience or advice to offer for migrating to Chile, I would be very grateful for it.

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2024/11/27
07:04 UTC

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[IWantOut] 28F Lebanon -> Canada or United States

Hello everyone, I don't know how this goes but here's the situation. I'm lebanese but I live and work in Kuwait. I have a bachelors in humanities and currently work in special needs. I have my university transcripts and ielts ready because I had hopes of continuing my education abroad and eventually settling elsewhere where I can benefit the country and in return feel safe enough to live an authentic life. I won't get into too many details for safety reasons (not related to the war as I live in Kuwait) but i cannot sustain living around the middle east any longer for mental health and safety reasons. I'd rather not have to seek asylum as it's a very messy process and I have the work experience and ability to save money but need a route to go for that does not require a job opportunity as those are very difficult from abroad.I have some money saved but it's not enough to pursue a masters at the moment. What are my options to immigrate easily even if I have to save more money. Thank you for taking the time read this.

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2024/11/26
23:51 UTC

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[IWantOut] 40M Australia -> South East Asia

G'day friends,

I'm a German-born Aussie (Just became an Aussie citizen, now I have dual citizenship) in my early 40s. With Australia becoming increasingly expensive (and I don't particularly enjoy some aspects of living here), I'm considering moving to Southeast Asia with my partner, we don't have children. I have savings in the low six-figure USD range and could continue freelancing for some of my current software engineering clients. I'm renting out a house I bought in Australia, which provides some rental income, so we're looking at some kind of semi-retirement situation. We're both used to living a pretty frugal lifestyle, don't need luxury or anything fancy, but would like to have access to good and fresh food.

I don't want to live the typical "digital nomad" lifestyle - I just want to be left alone and mind my own business. I enjoy good food and nice walks, and dislike partying and drinking, so typical tourist spots are likely not on my shortlist. Safety is a priority for me, so I'm looking for a secure region. Of course, I need to be somewhere where I can obtain a work visa for freelance work.

I know this place I'm looking for might sound too good to be true, and I'm ready to compromise. Since I haven't spent much time in Southeast Asia before, I would love to hear your insights and experiences. Thank you in advance!

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2024/11/26
21:49 UTC

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[IWantOut] 16M Business Russia -> USA

Hello, 16M emancipated, studying online, currently have a technology business making good money. I would like to immigrate to the United States, as at 17, Russia has mandatory military registration. I have connections in the United States, and friends in North Carolina. Considering the recent events, I do not feel safe in my country. Native English and Russian language. Currently only have a Russian Passport, eligible for Ukrainian citizenship, and Greek Residency (E.D.T.O) (I do not have the documents on hand, and obtaining them will be costly). Thank you for your attention, and thanks for any advice you may give me.

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2024/11/26
22:38 UTC

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[IWantOut] 24M India->USA/Canada/Australia

Hi,
I'm 24M from India, working as a software developer at a MNC with 2.5 years of work experience. I want to immigrate to either of Australia or Canada or USA by 2025 in pursuit of better standard of living and work opportunities and get away from all the chaos and unregulated work life balance here.
What are my possible options and how can I achieve it?

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2024/11/26
15:47 UTC

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[IWantOut] 25F Canada -> UK

I do have some advantages in my move. I have UK citizenship and family living in London. I also lived and studied in the UK, so overall I'm very familiar with the country. The only barrier I have is getting a job. I'd like to have an offer before my move. I just started out in Pharmaceuticals Regulatory Affairs, currently interning for the government in Canada. I'm looking for entry-level pharmaceutical roles in the UK. My issue is how do I even present myself? What address do I put on my CV? How do I convince recruiters and hiring managers to give me a shot? I was thinking about taking some EU-regulatory affairs courses to put on my resume to show that I do have some knowledge about RA in that part of the world. Will these courses help? My internship also ends in April 2025 BUT I have a 1-week trip planned to the UK in January and that's why I'd like to start applying now so that if I get interviews, I can schedule them over that week.

My ideal situation would be I apply to job applications now, get through online interviews, in-person interviews I attend during the week I'm in London in January and then start the job once I finish my internship ... does this seem at all possible? Any advice on how I approach recruiters and hiring managers?

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2024/11/26
15:30 UTC

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[IWantOut] 26M UK -> Canada

Been seeing this girl from Canada for the last 4 years. And the plan has always been for me to move in 2025.

Just wanted to kind of understand the job market around Ontario a bit more and what I need to do to move.

Have visited the country numerous times.

I'm a marketing/sales professional with 3/4 years in the industry. Currently working as an SDR for a tech company.

Been looking at initially going for a working holiday for 2 years and applying with IEC.

Any recommendations or advice?

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2024/11/26
14:09 UTC

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[IWantOut] 33M United Kingdom -> Brazil

Yes I know it’s a bit unusual, normally it’s Brazil -> UK. But I’m born and bred in the UK, and over the past 3 years I have fallen in love with Brazil. I travel there for months at a time every year. I’ve been from the south to the north east and want to explore even more. I have made so many friends there over the years and I love the people and the lifestyle. I truly feel like it’s home to me. And I am so grateful that I have discovered this. I don’t want to spend more time here than I need to. I found my home and I want to live in it.

Yes I know Brazil is not perfect, I would be giving up a lot of daily privileges and conveniences and safety that I have in London. I’m aware of that and I’m willing to sacrifice that. I know I am happier there.

I am semi fluent in Portuguese but it still needs to be improved, especially for business. And I want to obtain at least a permanent residency visa there.

I’m a software engineer (iOS and Backend) at a highly successful startup on £131k. I’d be happy to work somewhere in Brazil for less, as long as I can live comfortably in a city like São Paulo or Rio. I can work remotely for my current company from Brazil but I would be put on a contract employment, not full time, which means there are no employment protections and I could be laid off at any time. Which has happened to my colleagues based in Brazil at least every year. I wouldn’t feel comfortable doing that. I would rather find a more stable and permanent role.

What are my options here in order to get a permanent residency? I would ideally like to be sponsored whilst I work there. Has anyone ever made a similar move? Any advice would be appreciated. Would working at companies like Nubank be realistic? Or something else? I’m still exploring and would love to hear your suggestions and advice.

Thank you.

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2024/11/26
13:46 UTC

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[WeWantOut] 33m 33F 3F 1M Middle East -> Germany/Spain/Portugal/Italy/Ireland

Hi Guys.

We need some advice and help in brainstorming re moving to Europe.

This is a detailed yet open-ended and general post.

Background

  • We're a family of four - 33M, 33F, 3F, 1M - with EU citizenships (Latvian).
  • Most of the questions pertain to our 3-year-old though.
  • We're not sure yet if we want to travel first or settle in somewhere right away.
  • And we're not sure where. Main candidates are Germany, Spain, Portugal, Italy or Ireland.

Traveling

We're open to the idea of traveling for a year or so before deciding where to settle in, however not sure what would be the best way to do it with kids in those ages. How long to stay in each place (weeks, months, ...)? How to move around (public transportation, RV, ...)? What to do with all the kids stuff? Is it realistic to sign them up to some sort of short-term day-care in each location?

Preschools

In case we decide to settle in right away, what's the best way to get them started in preschools? Is it better to move first, get used to the new place for a couple of months (maybe learn the language a little bit?) and only then sign them up? Or is it better to just throw them in at the deep end?

Language

What's the best way to facilitate their new language learning? Should they start learning it before we move? Do we have to do anything about it at all other than sending them to preschools (and there they will manage eventually)? Isn't it a bit cruel to place a 3-year-old in a new place where she doesn't understand a single word?

Location

We need help in brainstorming potential cities/neighborhoods. Our top priorities are -

  1. Availability and affordability of relatively-high-standard housing with an average budget (namely - not living in an old, tiny and filthy apartment that you had to fight over with dozens of other families, and feel like you're paying way too much).
  2. Easy access to the city center (no more than 30-40min commute)
  3. Safe place
  4. Good education
  5. As much as possible - decent weather (the warmer the better...)

Any other idea, advice or tip - will be very heartily welcome.

Cheers.

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2024/11/26
11:26 UTC

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[IWantOut] 23M Malaysia -> Australia/New Zealand/Netherlands

https://www.reddit.com/r/IWantOut/comments/kmdh1x/iwantout_19m_malaysia_canada/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

Nutshell story: I'm gay, and I want to move to a country with marriage equality.

A few years ago I posted here with a make or break tunnel vision on Canada. I've broadened my horizons and did a little bit of growing up since then and realized that I should not be so dead set on one country only. I've since also gotten a partner in Malaysia and we both want to hopefully move to Australia or a similar country with marriage equality.

I'm currently on the last two semesters of my Advertising degree, and I plan to work in communications/entertainment/media industry. What would be some routes I could take to move to these countries? Any advice?

5 Comments
2024/11/26
07:10 UTC

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[IWantOut] 28F USA -> Spain

So this is a bit of a nuanced situation and just putting out feelers to see if anyone knows someone who has or has done this themselves - my parents are retired and will be moving to Valencia with NLV visas next year. I’ve always wanted to move to Spain and have postponed because I’ve gotten overwhelmed with figuring out my path. They’re not necessarily disabled and need me, but I have a job that will let me move (I did ask, its remote and they have an office) I just don’t think they’ll sponsor me. The conversation was only agreeing to move my position/pay.

That being said I can provide for my parents, even if they don’t necessarily need me to. They’re thankfully healthy enough to get around, but are older at 64/73 with their own health issues. Just curious if anyone has friends or has followed family in a situation like this where its not exactly necessary, but probably helpful for the older parents, and they’re no longer a dependent.

Also, we all have Colombian and US citizenship if that helps. (Not that they have any issues) I know there’s some paths to citizenship for Latinos, but I haven’t seen paths for getting that initial residency outside of what any typical citizen would look into. Maybe I’m missing something so thought to mention this.

Hopefully this is enough info, thanks in advance!

10 Comments
2024/11/26
05:56 UTC

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