Just wondering, I’ve gotten REALLY into them recently and just want to see if the fan bases cross over more than I think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG13HXoTyZc

https://www.guitarworld.com/news/kiki-wong-on-her-smashing-pumpkins-audition

Does anyone know if this sweatshirt was for sale at some point? I don't remember ever seeing it before. I really like it and want one. Maybe it's a one off that she had made?

I listened to it again to start off one of my workdays last week and it's just the most beautiful album ever.

It has such a wide and accurate collection of moods, it feels like there's something fitting for every period of life. So much love just dripping from it.

The sound makes me almost euphoric. Probably one of the 5 best albums for me.

i have been looking for a remake of this shirt but i cannot find any, except for one that was on a very sketchy website with only one picture. pls help!

Got a ticket for the concert but I've decided to sell it and go to CLOUT instead. Ticket is assigned to B zone (front left side of the stage) selling for 60 euros. DM me @ eraszmia on IG or on here if interested. For a sure transaction I've already posted the ticket on ticketswap so I can just send the link to that n u can buy it.

Premieres 5.14 on the CW Network

https://www.cwtv.com/thecw/the-cw-app/

Link on how to access the CW Network/App on the various devices.

Let's keep the discussion/reviews mostly focused here.

What songs if released as singles or wider know do you think could've worked as a hit or at least got some attention?

Here's my list:

Here is no why

Real love

Cash car star

Quiet

Hummer

Drown

Bury me

I’ve never really experienced seeing the band live in a bill where they weren’t the last act on stage/the main event of the bill. How many songs do you expect to be on this setlist? How excited are you guys about seeing Green Day?

Just bought it on cd and listened to it for the first time. Fucking brilliant. Why do some people have mixed feelings about this album? Thoughts?

Comedy or Solo SP cover show?

Could this be an influence of RHCP?

This song is an absolute masterpiece.

Jimmy's drumming is on another level altogether.

Everett True and other Melody Maker writers have had to answer for crap like this at some point, right? I don’t mean like punishment or anything, but just explaining how this isn’t just lazy journalism.

Look, I get some critics just don’t like Smashing Pumpkins, and I understand there’s some kind of beef between Everett True and Billy, but he couldn’t MAYBE have tried to be the bigger person? Between this non-review, his review of “Bullet with Butterfly Wings” that was just the words “Puffy-faced twat,” and Norman Smith characterizing “Tonight, Tonight” as Billy “whining on about how shitty his life is” (??), this is borderline disrespectful to the reader.

I’m just now wrapping up my second year of college. Things have been okay for the most part, but there have been many, many days where I’ve felt like everything was caving in on me. Whether it be class problems, girl problems, or just being a little lonely, I’ve been hit with most of these problems throughout this year. It wasn’t so bad when I was back home. My mom would often just listen to me talk about whatever it was that was bothering me, and I love her for doing that. Now that I’m on my own,those days when I come home feeling like I’m gonna break are only magnified by the lack of someone to talk to. Fortunately, I have found solace and hope in listening to this band.

I’ve always loved music, I think it’s easily one of God’s greatest creations. Any song can have its own meaning, and that meaning varies from person to person. The person’smeaning can also vary depending on their mood, and I think that in itself is purely amazing.

I love the hard rock stuff the Pumpkins make, but my true appreciation comes from their slower songs. Outside of God and my parents, I have them to thank for helping me make it through the year. I’m going to list a bunch of songs, and talk about a few songs that have kept me going when all feels lost.

I think there is something truly special in making a song that can serve as both a song to hear when you feel hopeless, and a song you listen to to build yourself back up. One of the most important songs to me of this nature is My Blue Heaven. If anyone is still reading this, and you haven’t heard it, I implore you to check it out. This song has been there when I’m trying to push on, and it’s been there when I’ve given up. It’s so amazing that the original renditions of this song (I think about Fats Dominoe version) were played in an upbeat way, while this version is taken down to piano, cello, and Billy. Billy has said it himself that people associate the pumpkins with “melancholy,” and I think it couldn’t be more true. This song is there when I’m at my lows, and helps me to keep going with what the future could hold.

Tonight, Tonight is one of my favorite songs of all time, and this song calms me down, no matter the time. The song itself just takes me back to being a little kid, and that in itself calms me and makes me feel sadder. The pure grandiosity of this song gives me goosebumps, and still occasionally brings me to tears when coupled with the lyrics. The ending always gets me. “The impossible is possible tonight… Believe in me as I believe in you…” and even “That life can change that you’re not stuck in vain.” Words can’t express what this song has done for me. It takes me back in time, and pushes me further along in hopes of change.

Finally, the one whose lyrics most closely match my feelings: Spaceboy. From the very beginning with the acoustic intro, to the heartfelt lyrics, everything about this song is there for me. In my mind, this song represents being so separated from everyone,so much as though you feel you are in space, and longing for the reconnection. You have the breakdown of “i wanna go home,” to the outro of “it won’t be long,” and these lyrics couldn’t hit closer to home. The instrumentation during the outro is also worthy of praise, as in my mind, it truly captures the feeling of floating in space and feeling lost/alone.

There are so many other songs that I could rave on about, but some others include: The Tale of Dusty and Pistol Pete, By Starlight, To Shiela (early banjo version), Today, Blissed and Gone (Drone version), For Martha, Take Me Down, Galapagos, and Farewell and Goodnight.

I honestly don’t know what situation I would be in without the Pumpkins music. If you’ve made it this far, thanks for listening to my middle school level analysis. I hope you can find a few songs that are there for you too.

Especially the expanded edition, like I wish to tell you all the songs on it that just felt like full-fledged Smashing Pumpkins songs. Some that appear more fleshed out I think are on the live performances recorded, which are also a riot in their own right, but if I hadn’t heard of Pisces Iscariot (great name btw) I don’t think I would have been aware of all the great music that came out of such a prolific time within the band, especially with Jimmy Chamberlin still in the band.

Blew Away, Obscured, Starla, Blue, La Dolly Vita, Spaced, Glynis, Cinder Open, Jackie Blue, Translucent, Slunk, Purr Snickety, Vanilla… just all a great collection of songs that feel like they could have been released independently or even a few maybe added to the main albums and it would have sounded fantastic.

It’s interesting to consider what is cut for the sake of making things flow a bit more efficiently, but the flow of these songs I just mentioned are undeniable. I loved them, and tbh I was expecting these songs and album to be something of a misstep, but it gave me a kick into their discography when I was convinced I’d never hear anything else that came from my favorite era of the band!

It’s a shame how Jimmy was fired and D’arcy left, but for the time they were together, magic was made. It was good to know that at least the three of them got it back together, and if I could I’d like to see them on tour with these upcoming dates they have! If not, I’ll still have the archive of all their great live performances, and it must be magic to be able to witness the chemistry between them and get to experience firsthand their performances of these amazing songs they made.

Just came into listening to the band for the first time a few months ago, although I remember hearing Today from a PSP game called Rock Band Unplugged and it was a trip! Billy has a unique voice and that song always stuck out to me as being peak alt rock even before I was aware of that as a genre or how big it was in the 90s because I wasn’t even born yet! It’s good to see at least the majority of them going strong, and what a legacy of music to have following them.

Hello. I have a question. The european store for the pumpkins has, well, fuck all. So i’m considering ordering from the US store and shipping it to here (england) but i don’t know for one if thats possible, or how long it would take, since ive read horror stories on here about the online website.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kja3ipJwy5k

During the soft break in Ruby, in the first line has anybody ever noticed and wondered why Billy sings "freshed-faced" instead of "fresh-faced"? If I recall, it wasn't like that in the printed lyrics, nor is it on lyric sites today.

It's always been a mystery to me, seeing as how if it were a mistake, Billy likely would have noticed and fixed it.

There's one other moment like that on the album that I can't recall right now.

Any info?

Why is it, in Bodies, when he screams "now we drive the night" and the lead guitar line comes in, it sounds like the guitar note is a mysterious, black car driving along an unfathomable dark highway in the middle of the night?

Any other good examples of the music complementing the words perfectly? I think he is very good at this in general.

thank you kenna if you’re reading this❤️