Hey y’all for context my dads a huge smashing pumpkins fan and I got money now so I wanted to get him something nice for Christmas 😂 I was thinking of the aero plane flies high cd box maybe but it doesn’t include a lot of songs. If y’all got any suggestions let me know I’d appreciate it!

I have a spare copy of the 7 inch if anyone here wants to make me an offer for it - the sleeve is slightly dog eared (corner creases) but the disc is mint - I asked zuzus for a replacement copy which has now arrived! If interested either ping me a pm or respond here! Cheers!

I was part of a Smashing Pumpkins forum (netphoria.org) in the late 1990s/early 2000s and I ran a single elimination bracket of every song in SP’s catalogue at the time (post Machina, pre Machina II). SOMEHOW Snail won the final vote. If memory serves me correct, the final 4 came down to Mayo, Ruby, Snail, and Soma.

Still to this day I think people were trolling by picking Snail. It won by more than just a couple votes. The Mayo vs. Ruby thread got me thinking about this. I know people can’t ever agree on the actual rankings. And art will always be subjective. But I’m curious what this community thinks are the best of the best?

From what I’ve gathered from following SP forums/reddit, the “universally agree list might contain these songs:

Ruby

Mayo

Soma

Hummer

Drown

Porcelina

Aeroplane;

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And probably a lot of these:

Disarm

Tonight, tonight

Here Is No Why

Geek USA

Cherub Rock

Starla

XYU

Hello Kitty Kat

An Ode To No One

Muzzle

For Martha

Snail

Bury Me

Eye

Stand Inside Your Love

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And maybe even some of these too:

This Time

Wound

The Sacred and Profane

To Sheila

Tear

Behold! The Nightmare

Galapagos

Zero

To Forgive

Jelly belly

1979

Where Boys Fear To Tread

Anything on Siamese Dream I haven’t mentioned yet

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I suspect there are a ton of tracks on The Aeroplane Flies High box set and Machina II that are in the debate as well. But I don’t often hear people talking about those for some reason.

Anyway, what do you think? Is my summary fairly accurate or is it clouded with my bias?

Since the year of our lord 2024 is coming to a close, I decided to rank all of Mellon Collie before the start of 2025: nearly 30 years of one of the best double albums of all time. And unfortunately we're starting off with a song that's in my opinion, one of the worst songs in the classic SP era.

Still, there is some good in here. The instrumental itself is really solid; the riff, while not close to the best on the album, still rips pretty hard, Jimmy's drumming speaks for itself, and the solo is pretty damn good too. Everyone's going all in on the heaviness, and I can enjoy that on its own. Not to mention, the spot Tales fits on the album is pretty perfect, acting as the explosion of energy between the power poppiness of 1979 and the stripped back acoustic nature of Stumbleine. I really couldn't imagine any other B-side fitting Tales' role on the album quite the same (God is the only one that gets kinda close but not quite).

So, with that, why would I call it the worst on the album? Welllll, this is one of the few SP songs where Billy's vocals actively take away from my enjoyment of the song.

This may be a bit of a hot take, but Billy is great at many things, like making a good solo, general songwriting, and even singing to an extent. Screaming is not one of them. Not to say that I can't enjoy it at times, but his screaming style is only one I can really get down with in small doses, like in Zero or BWBW. And needless to say, this was one that was gonna be pretty hard to like out the gate given Billy's constant goblin screeching.

But what really pushes it to the edge is the one aspect of that, in combination with everything else killed any chance of liking the song, and that is the vocal filter. I do not get how anyone in the studio could've heard Billy's screams with that specific vocal filter on top of the onslaught of noise and go "Yes, this is the true vision!!!" because I don't get how this would be anything more than obnoxiously grating on the ears.

Honestly if even just one of these complaints was removed, I probably would've enjoyed Tales more than I actually do, but as is, all of this culminates in a song that just gives me a headache every time I listen to it. It's not the worst song in the SP catalogue (nothing's gonna top the mistake that is the Puff Daddy remix of Ava Adore in terms of awfulness), but still, it's probably the only song on Mellon Collie that outside of the context of the album, I would skip every time it came on.

But on a brighter side, this is the only song on the album I could consider bad, so in the coming days, we only have greener pastures to cross. Hope you all stick around til then!

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Anyone done anything interesting with artwork for the albums?

I'd like to gift my 13 year old nieces machina 2 as a physical album with artwork. I'm happy to go with the big standard back in the day originally used artwork but if someone has done something different I'd be intrigued

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Hi there :)

I was wondering if anyone has this tour's "Galaxies Full Of Nobodies" shirt to sell ?

Size L would be perfect.

I was at the Zagreb show but failed to purchase it.

Anyway, if anyone has a spare, please let me know.

Thanks!

ive been thinking about it and i feel like thats the climax of the whole album like everything is leading up that song, then the long quiet part in the middle makes it so that when it kicks back in at the end it’s one of the most intense pieces of music ever then finishes softly with sweet sweet and luna

My Music teacher colleague has agreed to teach me how to play piano with the one goal to play Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness. I've not started yet, but I am stoked! What a great early Christmas present.

Overpaid but for sure I was going to regrets not having this.

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In the (recently presented to me) Zero Synth Mix, there's a variation to the main guitar line. I can't find tabs of it anywhere. It starts at about 1:57. Anyone know how to play it?

first of all, what does the back mean, secondly why does it say ‘numb af since 1998’ what happened that year?

What are some of your favorite covers of smashing pumpkins songs. Ive been listening to wednesdays cover of perfect a lot lately!

Collection includes a live performance from Chicago where U2 tags their Electric Co with Bullet with Butterfly Wings. This performance had also been released on DVD years ago.

With the dust settleing on the Aghori Mhori Mei project, I started to think about the band's next move album wise. Corgan stated at the time that Zodeon would be an album to be released with additional tracks as some of the tracks on the 7" singles were apparently b-sides (although I would say all the tracks are great and should be included.

I guess my question is should the band finish the project (Corgan is known for dropping concepts/albums before completing) and cap off the Shiny series with a move into the psychedelic. Or do the band pivot and go deeper down the Rock rabbit hole after the relative success of Aghori (critically and amongst most fans).

I do love Zodeon as it stands and would love to see it's fruits, but at the same time I do want the band to head into even more heavier territory as I'm a huge Machina fan. What do you guys think?

“Who Goes There” did not make a debut on any of the rock/alternative charts that I can see. It’s really surprising that they haven’t done any concerts or videos to promote this. Pentagrams seems the obvious choice to me.

I only have listened to Perfect and 1979 and I really enjoyed Perfect. Thanks

Hi, I tried looking for post about the Aghori Mori Mei Special Edition extra tracks to no avail.

Anyway, since the Special Edition has been shipped now, did anyone already have some feedback on those tracks? I'm still trying to recover from the ultra-pricey Atum limited edition boxset so I skipped on this one. :(