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I’m not too familiar with college basketball, but I’d guess there’s a balance to strike—enough conference games to keep things competitive, but not so many that teams lose opportunities to schedule strong non-conference matchups.

At the same time, you probably don’t want too many tough games overall since a solid record is still key for making the tournament.

So what’s the ideal setup? What should we be rooting for?

MU could be great adds. Up and coming school with a good football program and a decent basketball program. Feel like it could be a good investment to let them join. Also makes sense regionally.

One of my homies who I play a lot of titanfall 3 with who attends MU thinks this would be a great add. I also think so too! What do you guys think?

I will create a new poll every day until we have 12 teams. I've only included the most realistic options, so there will be no "Other" option. The team with the most votes will be added to the conference.

Current teams:

1. Oregon State
2. Washington State
3. Boise State
4. Colorado State
5. Fresno State
6. San Diego State
7. Utah State

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Looks like about $10 million per school.
https://www.oregonlive.com/sports/2025/02/ncaa-financial-reports-reveal-massive-budget-hit-to-pac-12-legacy-schools.html

https://substack.com/home/post/p-156305223

"A current Mountain West football coach read the piece, called me on Saturday, and said something interesting.

It’s far better for the health of the MW if the Rebels stay put, for sure. That’s a no-brainer. But he said the holdover MW football programs are aware if UNLV stays, it will operate in 2026 and beyond with better resources than the rest of the conference."

Just wondering if there is a thread over there too?

I will create a new poll every day until we have 12 teams (one extra day for football only team) Comment who if you vote other, most upvoted other, if not highest voted will be added to the poll the next day (must be realistic)

Current teams:

Oregon State

Washington State

Boise State

Utah State

SDSU

Colorado State

Fresno State

Gonzaga

Poll Winners:

Texas State

UNLV

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https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/sports-columns/adam-hill/hill-its-time-for-mountain-west-pac-12-to-end-battle-3273840/

I'm surprised a local Vegas reporter is pushing this BS instead of encouraging UNLV to join the PAC. The premise of the article is that the PAC and MWC should drop all lawsuits and merge under the PAC-12 banner with MWC leadership and be headquartered in Las Vegas. The following are some quotes I selected from the article

"Seriously, if you want to see irate people pontificate about a subject online, just get off the political blogs and do a deep dive into Pac-12 and Mountain West discussions on Reddit and social media. Yikes."

"The sad reality for both leagues is that neither is likely built for the long haul. While the Mountain West appears to be in better position than the Pac-12, that’s not exactly a high bar."

"The Pac-12 itself is flailing and still in need of at least one full-time member for formal conference recognition after some high-profile rejections, along with reports of slow progress on a media rights deal to the point some of the breakaway Mountain West schools have to be questioning their decision."

This is the first I have heard anyone suggest that the media rights deal is going slowly. The PAC-12 hired Octagon to negotiate a media deal in late November. It hasn't even been 3 months. It's not like the old PAC where you would hear about some supposed deadline and then blow right past it. The only soft deadline people have talked about is around March Madness.

I don't particularly care who it is it'll at least stop the groundhogs day for a bit or at least start it on something else

https://substack.com/home/post/p-156242910

"New-world Pac-12 Athletic Directors held a two-day summit this week at Bay Area headquarters, discussing expansion, media rights, and several other topics.

It caused a stir in the Mountain West footprint.

But it was something one athletic director told me that I woke up thinking about today.

“The feedback we’re getting from prospective media partners is that there isn’t one expansion addition that clearly stands out above the others,” the source told me on Friday."

I will create a new poll every day until we have 12 teams (one extra day for football only team) Comment who if you vote other, most upvoted other, if not highest voted will be added to the poll the next day (must be realistic)

Current teams:

Oregon State

Washington State

Boise State

Utah State

SDSU

Colorado State

Fresno State

Gonzaga

Texas State

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https://www.mercurynews.com/2025/01/31/mailbag-the-price-to-lure-american-schools-into-the-pac-12-impact-of-the-accs-deal-with-espn-the-mws-grant-of-rights-and-more/

(if you toggle reader view, you can read the article)

"The Mountain West said the schools have signed a grant-of-rights deal. Does that mean the conference owns their media rights starting in 2026, even without a deal in place? Could teams still theoretically leave if they pay the buyout? — @NateJones2009

The grant-of-rights binds each school’s rights to the conference, so that the media partners are able to negotiate and deal with one entity acting on behalf of 10, 14 or however many members exist.

If there’s no media deal, the grant-of-rights is irrelevant."

"The Pac-12 is seeking a media rights deal in excess of $10 million per school annually, according to sources. Does that mean $18 million, $15 million or $12 million? Our hunch is the target figure is closer to $12 million. And we should also remind folks that it’s a negotiation. The target figure and the final number are often quite different.

If you toss the target number and the rock-bottom number into a cauldron, the end result would be a media rights deal worth roughly $9 million to $10 million annually per school, which is the Hotline’s prediction.

Here’s the piece we don’t know: The minimum dollar amount the Pac-12 would have to offer Memphis, Tulane and South Florida to make changing conferences financially worthwhile."

Memphis's AD, Ed Scott, appeared on sports radio yesterday and talked for the first 10 minutes about the Pac-12. Said no deal has an offer to Memphis since the original deal. He did say that he and Gould have talked to each since the original deal was turned down. Added that Memphis's decision will be based on financials and the interest of its athletes. Made clear that if an adequate deal is offered Memphis would accept.

Hopefully this link works.

https://www.audacy.com/podcast/929-featured-podcast-eb87c/episodes/dr-ed-scott-in-studio-with-jason-john-on-929-fm-espn-1-30-25-on-penny-ryan-silverfield-football-and-conference-affiliation-c3ab2?action=AUTOPLAY_FULL&actionContentId=201-771a1d34-bd7f-4e76-9f6a-285add5dc6fa

The football schedules are set. The new look Pac-12 is complete, perhaps just the addition of Texas State. The MW looks as it does now...

And still there will be people on this subreddit suggesting UNLV is coming to the Pac-12.

Happy Friday! Learn what the word "No" means. It will help a lot of you in life.

Don't know how realistic getting the MW schools is at this point, probably would have to win the legal battle pretty handily I assume.

But would be totally fine if this was how things shook out for the Pac.

Here comes the GCU hate

I will create a new poll every day until we have 12 teams (one extra day for football only team) Comment who if you vote other, most upvoted other, if not highest voted will be added to the poll the next day (must be realistic)

Current teams:

Oregon State

Washington State

Boise State

Utah State

SDSU

Colorado State

Fresno State

Gonzaga

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https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2025/01/former-oregon-state-quarterback-signs-with-new-york-yankees.html

https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2025/01/oregon-states-2025-assistant-coaches-salaries-trent-bray-bonuses.html

As we've already entered the 2025 year, the buy outs for AAC schools is unlikely for 2026, perhaps even 2027 at the current rate. I certainly like the idea of pursuing an Eastern Division (in a three division setup), but for now I'd like to present a realistic 2026 Pac-12 with a heavy focus on being viewed as a Power Basketball conference.

Creighton would almost certainly require a full share offer (even without football) like Gonzaga has, but Texas State will likely take a similar reduced share like Utah State, and St. Mary's would certainly take a very small share.

Focusing on Basketball, this proposed 2026 Pac-12 would have the following national NET rankings:

11th Gonzaga 24th St. Mary's 31st Utah State 39th Creighton 44th San Diego State 52nd Boise State 61st Oregon State 79th Colorado State 89th Washington State 161st Texas State 268th Fresno State

Already a thing in my cfb25 dynasty

Is it me or does this feel like one conference has to dissolve in the end between the PAC,AAC and Mountain West

I can’t see the new PAC going under and I can’t really see the AAC going under either

Feels like with that statement the Mountain West put out today the writing is on the wall soon for that conference