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Retakes

Retakes are a no brainer in these circumstances:

  • You scored at the low end of your PT average
  • Your scores were still increasing in the weeks up to test day
  • You had less than perfect on logic games

If none of these are true for you, and you're clearly stalled, then make this clear. Most people posting have retake potential.

Even 2-3 points can make a large difference in admissions/scholarships. That's why so many people here post "retake!" to a lot of situations.

Canada? Most people here are US. So most advice doesn't apply. Feel free to ask questions, though, there are some Canadians. Big differences:

  • Almost no scholarships.
  • Most schools are pretty good.
  • Go where you want to practice
  • GPA is significantly more important. Do all you can to raise it.
  • For god's sake don't go abroad. That's Canada's TTT.

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Submit Additional Form for NYU Scholarships?

NYU sent a form to admitted students to submit if they want to be considered for some of the scholarship programs (Root-Tilden-Kern, etc.), but it looks like the questions they ask and the info they request (like the additional essay) is the same as what was requested in the JD application. Is the form solely for people who decide they want to be considered for the scholarships after submitting an application, or has anyone submitted both?

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2024/12/01
17:46 UTC

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WashU interview 11/19

I was just wondering if anyone with a 11/19 interview has been accepted yet?

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2024/12/01
17:44 UTC

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Can a high LSA offset a low GPA

My GPA is a 3.0 and I am three years out of undergrad. I never planned to go to law school, but if my GPA is below my schools median and my LSA is at or above the median. Does this help my chances?

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2024/12/01
10:43 UTC

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USC Law - Job Prospects and Culture?

Recently accepted ED to USC Gould School of Law! I applied based on what I've heard about the alumni network but am now nervous about Biglaw prospects compared to other high-ranking schools (I plan to practice in California). I also want to learn more about the culture/administration at USC. I'd love any insight that anyone has to share!

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2024/12/01
08:23 UTC

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Am I destined to have no scholarship $ with a 3.9 lsat and high 150 lsat? I didn't know law schools didn't give need-based scholarship :(

I might be cooked

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2024/12/01
15:52 UTC

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Weird background - need advice on next steps and how to best give context on addendums w/o sounding like a sob story

I was taken out of school at eight and had no education at all until getting myself into foster care, where I was able to attend one year of High School before aging out of the system. In my last few years with my parent, I was kept sequestered in a closet and only let out 1-2 times a day to eat if I was "good." I give this context because I've heard people say basically, "You'd have to live under a rock not to know better," regarding messing up for so long, and well, for all intents and purposes, I was.
I was terrible at navigating the community college system without support or the benefit of knowing how to function in an education system, which led to a low cumulative GPA. Reflecting on my journey while applying, I realized I am very proud to go from repeating remedial classes to being a paid tutor.
I am physically disabled, an older applicant, held significant leadership positions, community organizing experience, and landed a couple of great competitive fellowships. I am interested in pursuing public interest law and am primarily applying throughout the Northeast corridor.

I went from 149 in August to 161 on this last test. I'm on the fence about retaking in January. I think I need to get to the high 160s or low 170s to be competitive with my GPA. I have a graduating GPA of 3.5 but a cumulative GPA of 2.2.

Any advice on next steps? Should I shoot for the higher score in January or apply with the 161 and retake the LSAT in Spring/Summer if I don't get in this cycle? I am confident I could increase my score with more discipline.
How should I best give context for my subpar academic performance in CC without it sounding like an excuse or sob story? So far in my draft, I have straightforwardly given my background, the deficiencies for certain terms, and how I have addressed those issues when possible. It just that it's...a lot.

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2024/12/01
17:11 UTC

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Personal Statement

Would someone be willing to proofread my personal statement? As a first generation applicant, I am questioning everything :')) thank you in advance

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2024/12/01
17:23 UTC

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URGENTLY need help

Ok so I applied to fordham but I was looking to apply to the part time program, but selected full time. It’s only been 2 days and I’m wondering if I can call them and ask if it could be changed on their end.

ANY THOUGHTS?? Or anyone else experience this?

So stressed out.

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2024/12/01
16:46 UTC

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Does anyone else feel stupid for not being smart enough for T25?

I feel like so many people in this sub are pushing for 170+ and prestigious schools and idk I just feel dumb that that’s not even an option for me. I feel like I should have done more in undergrad, tried a little harder in class and gotten a better gpa, decided on law school sooner so I would get better internships that would make my resume look less like shit, and take an actual gap year to work and do better on the lsat. I feel like I had the potential to be able to go to a great school and I let it go to waste. I knew I wasn’t doing enough in undergrad but I just didn’t know what to do. My resume is nothing impressive at all it sucks. I know people take gap years and there’s no reason to rush but it’s crazy how 3-4 years is all it takes to determine if you can go to a top school which will change the course of your life.

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2024/12/01
16:46 UTC

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Please lmk if this list is realistic

3.8low, 168, year of Americorps, NonURM. Waiting on LOR, but trying to figure out if it's worth the money to apply this year or if I should retake LSAT and apply next September

Berkeley

UCLA

Georgetown

USC

Notre Dame

UNC

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2024/12/01
16:37 UTC

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UW Seattle Gates Scholarship Question

I am planning to apply to UW and for the Gates Scholarship. I know you obviously have to apply for general admission first, but are you supposed to send in your Gates app stuff right after you apply? I do know the Gates process is a separate thing. I’m just confused about the timing? Can I send my general app in right now and then the Gates app stuff prior to the Jan. 15 deadline?

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2024/12/01
16:35 UTC

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Additional Addendum?

Hi All! I was planning on writing a short addendum for my GPA, but all the applications I've filled out have already asked it in some capacity. Like the ask if your education was interrupted (part of the reason for my addendum) or straight up ask if anything have impacted my GPA. Should I write an additional addendum for this any or are the application questions sufficient?

TYIA!!

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2024/12/01
16:20 UTC

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Spending 10 hours on my Yale activities section

The fact that I'm spending this much time on a bespoke PDF and then forking over $150 to be almost certainly instantly rejected on the basis of my stats alone...peak delulu. Comically so, in fact. Does this feel vaguely like a hazing ritual to anyone else?

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2024/12/01
16:20 UTC

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Thoughts on school list?

For context: I graduated college in May and have mostly been doing volunteer work in various places in the meantime, I'm hispanic/latinx, and i've taken the LSAT multiple times with the lowest score being a 15mid and the highest being a 170. My GPA is a 4.X. I'm also a reapplicant to about half of these schools. Should I add more safeties, targets, reaches? I'm applying everywhere this week. Thanks! :) 

School list:

NYU, Columbia, Berkeley, UCLA, Georgetown, UMinn, UChicago, Northwestern, Fordham, BU, Harvard, UPenn, USC

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2024/12/01
16:06 UTC

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Yall let’s celebrate each other, that’s what we’re here for

Let’s celebrate our wins and be there for each other for our downs. We’re all in this together peeps !

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2024/12/01
15:36 UTC

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Is a 160 LSAT enough to compensate for a low GPA?

I have a 2.8 and applying to schools with a median of 160/161… Given how much lower my GPA is from the GPA median of all these schools, does hitting the median compensate? I’m already considering to take again in January since I’ve heard even a few LSAT points can be a huge deciding factor but I fear I am tempted to just submit apps now and free myself from this anguish lol

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2024/12/01
15:29 UTC

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Need Advice

I’m a third year undergraduate senior at a very small school with a very low graduation rate. I have a major in psychology, and two minors in theatre and legal studies. My GPA is a 3.8, i participate in student and university court, I regularly volunteer, and i’m in multiple academic fraternities and honor societies. I took my LSAT late in September of this year and got a 152. After a month of studying, my November LSAT was a 156. Should I take my chances and apply for law school now, even though it’s so late in the application cycle and i’m unlikely to get into my top 3 schools (Washington and Lee, William & Mary, University of Colorado Boulder) and accept whatever offer I get, or should I take a gap year, work and save up, and apply in the next cycle after a (hopefully) much improved score? I also have had a very successful internship with a local attorney and some excellent writing samples from that, but not enough to justify how low my LSAT is.

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2024/12/01
14:01 UTC

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Stanford PS

"Please describe what aspects of your life experiences, interests, and character would help you make a distinctive contribution to Stanford Law School."

Since there aren't that many PS prompts that ask about contribution, did you adjust your PS for Stanford in anyway? I know this is a common prompt for DS but I'd rather submit my PS instead.

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2024/12/01
10:20 UTC

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Applications

Is it normal to feel worried that you made errors on applications? As in didn’t answer questions how they wanted, or gave the wrong answer accidentally.

How serious are small flaws? The ones I can think of I did FOR SURE are:

  • No header on C & F addendum

  • Application kind of asked why I would be a good fit at school for personal statement and i didnt really cater it to that school l (idk if that matters tbh since i thought they meant in general, if someone knows better please fill me in haha)

  • Hopefully answered ALL C&F questions correctly as I want to disclose everything but obviously not going to if i dont have too. hoping whatever school I go too I can talk to someone immediately to make sure I go over each question so it matches with the bar.

  • Had to sign a ED form and it had no where to submit it on application so I put it in “Other Addenda” tab. Again, idk if thats right, hopefully it is.

  • One school had a “mission statement” which i took as the diversity statement from description. Wondering if anyone else applied to a similar school and saw that. Pretty sure it’s correct but thats my anxiety for you.

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2024/12/01
08:19 UTC

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Incorrect LSAC GPA

Hey Y'all! Planning to submit applications (regular decision) in the near future. Checked my LSAC GPA and was disappointed. My raw gpa was a 3.6 in a STEM Major, but with some considerations on my transcript (honors classes etc.) should probably be rounded up. Instead, my GPA was rounded down to a 3.4 which would REALLY mess up some of my applications. Does anyone know how I would address this?

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2024/12/01
08:09 UTC

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Most Reverse Splitter Friendly Schools

What schools would you say are the most reverse splitter friendly schools in the T-14’s through the T-40’s? (I have heard Northwestern and WashU before) but curious about others and also how holistic Northwestern is because that’s my top choice

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2024/12/01
07:19 UTC

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Any Reverse Splitters Hear back from WashU Interview yet?

I’m wondering if anyone has heard back from WashU after their interview and how quick. This more so applies to the reverse splitters in this group. I applied 10/23 and got the interview invite on 10/25 and had my interview on 10/31 and still haven’t heard back. My interviewer was super sweet and seemed to really enjoy my conversation with her and gave me her personal email to contact her throughout the waiting process. They also sent thank you letters to my letters of recommenders. I don’t know if this is standard for them. I’m just really worried that I’m going to get a WL or R. My stats are 4.13 GPA/15mid LSAT for reference.

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2024/12/01
07:17 UTC

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You can’t say stats don’t matter much with perfect stats

Like I appreciate the sentiment that stats aren’t EVERYTHING, but like when you have a 4.0 and 175+ and get into HYS and you say that it doesn’t matter… like it definitely definitely matters lol

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2024/12/01
06:45 UTC

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Personal statement approach

Panicking about submitting my apps so late but am still refining my personal statement and feel like I can’t afford to rush it. Did you go the straightforward - this is my professional/practical life story and here’s why it’s leading me to a legal career, or did you instead take the unique, seemingly unrelated storytelling, narrative approach that seems to always result in a vague ‘why law’?

For those who did the second - did you end up connecting your professional/academic story to your ‘why law’ in your diversity statement/statement of perspective? I went with this approach and am worried that it was the wrong choice - but it was the only way I could make my PS compelling.

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2024/12/01
06:44 UTC

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For those that didn’t hear back despite having strong numbers

Keep your head up. For context, I’m 3.9mid, 173, and did not hear back from ANY schools despite applying September-early October.

But this thread is to show that we must push through and keep our heads up. Let’s not crumble and use this as learning experience to stay grounded during uncertainty. We got this!

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2024/12/01
06:38 UTC

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SLS application not yet "complete" am I screwed for KH consideration?

Not sure if anyone has experience with the KH process to know if applying before the Dec 1 deadline is insufficient if your application is not yet moved to "complete?"

December 1, 2024 — The date your application must be received and deemed complete (last eligible LSAT test administration is November 2024) by SLS if you are applying for the Knight-Hennessy Scholars Program. We strongly suggest that applicants take the LSAT prior to the November test administration so that all application deadline requirements are met. If you opt to submit a GRE score in lieu of the LSAT, plan accordingly so that we receive your score from ETS by the stated deadline.

This is from the SLS application page. I submitted my applications before the deadline, I didn't realize I would have to send my application in so much earlier to ensure it went complete on time. Anyone know if this is the case?

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2024/12/01
06:37 UTC

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Nervous Wreck Needing Some Positivity + Realistic Advice

Hello y'all! I'm an senior in undergrad who made the decision to decide to go to law school after graduation, and I keep worrying about where I will get in, despite me not even taking the LSAT. This is because my GPA is currently a 3.5, and I'm hoping to bump it to a 3.6. I know it will make getting into t14 or t20 a hard task, and I keep stressing about it.

Can anyone give me some positive and uplifting advice about law school admissions? I don't know what type of law I want to do generally, but I want to always leave big law as an option to financially help out my family.

I am also hoping to take a gap year(s) to pursue some side quests, namely a masters in climate science in Greenland, helping out at a friend's farm, trying my hand at some internships, and getting involved in some community activism.

(I know it sounds weird that I have so many other interests outside of law, but I promise I have my reasons for wanting to go to law school!)

I worry that the more time I take away from law school, the more that admissions will become even more competitive, hurting my chances.

Let me know what you all think. One of my professors who also teaches at a t20 law school is going to give me a recomendation letter, so I hope it helps my chances with that school as well.

I'm going through finals in undergraduate right now, and I'm so sick of being scared of not doing well for the sake of law school. I need positive advice. If there is any bad news you want to share, you can do that as well.

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2024/12/01
06:25 UTC

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