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/r/German

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Artikel bei Abstraktum

Automatisch, ohne nachzudenken, würde ich es so schreiben:

1. Das ist pure Liebe.
2. Das ist eine unerwiderte Liebe.
3. Das ist reine Frechheit.

Wenn ich aber beginne, darüber nachzudenken, werde ich verwirrt. Warum habe ich das ohne den bestimmten Artikel geschrieben, wenn Abstrakta eben den bestimmten Artikel erfordern? Und hier sind sie noch mit einem Adjektiv versehen, was wohl ein weiterer Grund dafür wäre, den bestimmten Artikel zu verwenden, da das Substantiv durch das Adjektiv präzisiert wird. Ich glaube, die Version mit dem bestimmten Artikel wäre korrekt, aber wie steht es bei (1) und (3) mit der artikellosen Variante?

Bei (2) hat man eigentlich mit dem Gleichen zu tun wie bei (1) und (3) und trotzdem habe ich automatisch den Artikel benutzt... Wenn ich mir jetzt diese Inkonsequenz zu erklären versuche, kommt mir das Folgende in den Sinn: Das ist eine Abkürzung von "das ist ein Fall / ein Beispiel einer unerwiderten Liebe", also empfindet man hier die Liebe nicht mehr als ein Abstraktum, sondern als eine konkrete Beziehung zwischen zwei konkreten Leuten (nehmen wir mal Werther und Lotta aus Goethes Roman).

Nachdem ich mir über (2) überlegt hatte, neige ich von nun an jedoch, auch bei (3) den unbestimmten Artikel hinzuzufügen. Das artikellose (3) klingt für mich jetzt falsch.

Was aber (1) betrifft, habe ich nach wie vor nicht das Gefühl, dass dies falsch sein könnte... Wenn ich mir das erklären versuche, sehe ich das nicht so sehr wie ein Beispiel einer konkreten Beziehung wie bei (2), sondern vielmehr als... Ich weiß nicht, wie ich das bezeichnen könnte.. wie eine Eigenschaft, immer noch wie ein Abstraktum. Dann sollte ich mich daran stören, warum also nicht der bestimmte Artikel. Und jetzt kommt mir als Erklärung: An sich schon, sollte der bestimmte Artikel sein, aber die Kraft der prädikativen Funktion, und mit dieser haben wir in diesem Satz zu tun, ist demgegenüber überrangig. Deshalb verlangt das prädikativ benutzte Substantiv keinen Artikel, obwohl es ein Abstraktum ist.

Ist meine Denkweise da richtig? Wie sieht es wirklich aus?

1 Comment
2024/12/02
16:01 UTC

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Akkusative in ein Satz

Ich habe eine Frage in diesem Satz -

Das ist die Seilbahn, die auf die Zugspitze, den höchsten Berg in Deutschland, fährt.

Warum ist 'den höchsten Berg' akkusativ?

2 Comments
2024/12/02
14:19 UTC

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Do I arrange sentences like this?

I eat breakfast with my friends at home every morning. Subject - Verb - Object - Manner - Place - Time

Ich esse morgens mit meinen Freunden zu Hause Frühstück. Subject - Verb - Time - Manner - Place - Object

6 Comments
2024/12/02
14:41 UTC

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WHY does J do that?

Quick question about why things are pronounced a certain way because it confuses me. J. „Jeden“ and „ja“ sounds are what I expect. But then „joggen“ has the hard G sound we use in English and I want to know why?!

My vocabulary is still small, I don’t know all the exceptions, and I don’t know how many of these words are just because they have been borrowed from other languages. I know Deutsche had a big injection from French centuries ago and that’s how it got Büro, Café, Chef, and others.

Is that all it is?

49 Comments
2024/12/02
13:38 UTC

1

Telc C1 Hochschule Prüfung

Hello my fellow german learners, I have a question about the Mündliche Prüfung teil 1 Do I have to shape the Präsentation in the same way I would the textproduktion, meaning that do I have to talk about the Vor und Nachteile and then my opinion Or do I just talk about my personal opinion and arguments that supports it?

And if there are any tipps you could give me that would be super helpful since this is the first german (or any language) test I will ever have.

Und vielen Dank im Voraus.

5 Comments
2024/12/02
13:27 UTC

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A stupid question about Levels A1, A2, B2 etc.

I feel confused about how to speak precisely about one’s Level in German. The confusion is between which level one has achieved, versus which level one is studying.

So for example, one might pass the exam for A2, and therefore say they are level A2 while they are studying B1 material. So the questions “What level are you?” and “what level are you studying?” have different answers, right? And when one is looking for reading or other course online, it sometimes seems ambiguous whether content labeled B1 would be suitable for someone who has passed the B1 exam, or one who is merely studying B1 in order to hopefully pass the exam on a later day.

It’s even more confusing when intermediate levels such as B1.1 are used to designate courses. If I pass the B1.1 course at the end of a semester, can I call myself level B1.1, even though I have not passed the B1 exam?

I know this seems pedantic, but I have this mild uncertainty every time I look for course materials online.

Am I understanding this system right? Does anyone have anything to add to further clarify?

4 Comments
2024/12/02
13:25 UTC

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What are some things I can do to learn German effectively?

I'll try to keep it as short as possible. I've been living in Germany for around 8 years now. I understand the language pretty well but when speaking I forget most of the words. I can hold a conversation but it sounds more like a toddler speaking. Very embarrassing I know, but it's never too late to learn.

Are there any series or movies you would recommend for someone in a situation like mine? Or maybe apps that might help? I'm open to any suggestions. I have a lot of free time on hand currently so I would like to make good use of it.

5 Comments
2024/12/02
13:11 UTC

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Wörterbuch, das auf Wortwurzeln basiert?

Gibt es online oder gedruckte Wörterbuch, damit man alle Wörter zu einer Wortwurzel finden kann? Zum Beispiel: Wenn ich 'Trag' suche, werden Auftrag, Beitrag, Betrag, Vortrag, usw. angezeigt und die Unterschiede erklärt.

Dank im Voraus.

2 Comments
2024/12/02
13:06 UTC

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In which ways Integrationskurse different than Sprachkurse ?

Hallo Leute ! So I have moved to this great country 6 months ago, I want to integrate as much and as fast as possible. I have been learning the language myself through Deutsche Welle yet I have realized without practice I wont get far. My question is should i join a "Intensiv Sprachkurse" or an "Integrationskurse". Price wise Integrationskurse seems to be cheaper so i am leaning towards that. What are your suggestions ?

4 Comments
2024/12/02
12:21 UTC

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B1 in 6 months?

I am 12th grade student from Kazakhstan tryna learn German to apply for German universities. The government funded ones need B1 while others need A1 or A2. I wanted to get into a government funded one cuz they are free and to do that I need to learn german from literal beginner to B1. Is that possible for me If I dedicate 1-2 hours a day to learn german for 6 months!?

0 Comments
2024/12/02
10:43 UTC

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Use of da-word plus zu infinitive

Hi,

So I’m just learning how, in certain cases, you have to have a da-word in the main clause before introducing the zu-infinitive clause.

We learned that certain words, like “wissen,” can’t be followed by a zu clause, and I’m wondering if that applies to “sich erinnern.”

Is this correct?

Hast du dich daran erinnert, den Geschirrspüler einzuräumen?

Thanks!

6 Comments
2024/12/02
11:49 UTC

1

Recommendation for Social Media Mostly in German

So far I know most social media predominantly in English, there are also ecosystems for China (weibo, bilibili, baidu...) and Russia (yandex, vk, rutube...) though I don't like these countries.

But are there apps predominantly in German language? I know only Chaos Computer Club, it's like half German and half English.

There are several Germany-based social apps, like Mastodon, Matrix Synpase, they are open source and mainly in English, and self-hostable. Ecosia (it's not an app, just a search engine), SUSE (a great company, but not an app), SAP(a great company, but not consumer oriented I think) Do Germans like open-source social apps more? What are other apps predominantly in German?

0 Comments
2024/12/02
09:04 UTC

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how to self learn german

hey so i studied a1 and a2 german in a school but sadly they dont provide b1, b2 , we used das leben as a manual but i havent practiced german for a while i feel like ive lost it all can u please let me know how can i continue learning by myself ? which book materials do you recommend , thanks

3 Comments
2024/12/02
10:34 UTC

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What book to get?

Hello!

I used to learn German in middle school many years ago and I can still remember the basics if I go through my resources again in like a week or two. But I haven't been able to get past the awkward A2-B1 phase where I can't hold a conversation or write well, but my grammar can be very good.

I was looking into books encompassing A1-B1 learning to get up to speed fast and I'd like to get some opinions about them and how worth it they are (or recommendations for other books, sites etc. - I am more of a traditional learner, but lack a teacher):

- Motive A1-B1 from Hueber

- DaF Kompakt neu A1-B1 from Klett

- Deutsch – Übungsgrammatik für die Grundstufe – aktuell from Hueber (I know, this is grammar only. Maybe you could also recommend some vocabulary books?)

Thanks to everyone reading this!

1 Comment
2024/12/02
10:37 UTC

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German movies or shows about cooking or kitchen work?

Pretty self explanatory, I wanted to know if there's some kind of media I could watch, preferably with subs, to learn some cooking related vocabulary. I was thinking an English movie with German dubs/subs might work too but I don't know how well are they translated.

5 Comments
2024/12/02
10:36 UTC

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the position of "sich" in Nebensatz

Hi, could you explain the rule where to place "sich" or maybe reflective Pronomens in Nebensatz. I found the following sentences:

  1. Er geht jetzt doch nach Polen, wozu er sich gestern entschlossen hat.

  2. Er hat viel gearbeitet, wovon er sich jetzt erstmal erholen muss.

  3. Die Firma könnte bald pleitegehen, worum sich der Chef viele Sorgen macht.

  4. Anne will Mario heiraten, worüber sich alle wundern.

In 1) and 2) sich is after the subjects, but in 3) and 4) it is before the subjects, just after the connection words.

Thank you.

10 Comments
2024/12/02
10:16 UTC

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English speaker trying to immerse himself more

Hey everyone, I'm a native English speaker and I just started my journey of learning German. I'm currently using Duolingo, but I would really like to immerse myself, particularly by watching movies and reading in German. I tried to do the latter, particularly by changing the language of my video games and reading some German newsletters, but I was absolutely dumbfounded. Only real basic words stuck out to me, everything else I had to individually translate piece by piece which I believe is just extraordinarily inefficient and time-consuming.

Are there any websites out there that give you reading material but also show you the word by word translation? Or even give you very simple and easy reading material to start off with instead of throwing you into the recent developments in the German parliament?

Also, regarding films, my brain still has immense struggle at picking the words in sentences apart. ''Ich bin Jakob, und du?'' as simple as it may be, will immediately become incoherent at fast paces. So I don't feel as if I am learning anything too much by watching films. The only words I end up learning are at the beginning or at the end of a sentence since the middle just sounds like gibberish. Any tips on how to learn from films better?

Thank you all! Any general advice on learning German is greatly appreciated as well. Feeling so overwhelmed, lol.

8 Comments
2024/12/02
05:43 UTC

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Where to start?

I want to learn the language but I don't know where to start. I'm not going to just overstudy random vocabulary or Duolingo it, I know those don't necessarily work. I am half-German but I have lived in the US my entire life. That being said my mom and her parents speak German, so I have access to people to talk to. So, where should I start? It's very much an intimidating language for me, I've learned ones before (some Spanish, Latin, and French) but they were all classes, never on my own.

4 Comments
2024/12/02
04:16 UTC

1

Stories

What is the german adult stories subreddit, I somehow have lost it and was using it to expand my vocabulary whilst relearning the german language again

0 Comments
2024/12/02
00:38 UTC

1

Whats the best way to learn from watching?

Is it better to watch a dubbed one (with english subtitles) or the other way around?

9 Comments
2024/12/02
02:31 UTC

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"ließe"

Wir haben ließe verfügt, dass...
(We have decreed, that...)

Why "ließe"?

8 Comments
2024/12/02
02:21 UTC

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Goethe-Zertifikat B2 digital vs Goethe -Zertifikat B2 paper-based

I would like to ask if anyone has had the experience of failing the Goethe B2 exam and then passing it by taking the Goethe Digital B2. Did you find the digital version easier than the traditional paper-based one? Thank you in advanced!

0 Comments
2024/12/01
21:51 UTC

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tired with learning

hi, i'm sixteen and learning german as my third language. rn i'm in A1.2 level and really got stuck with it. it doesnt feel like i'm rlly learning that much and i think that taking an online course makes me dont have that much commitment, but i dont want to stop because i know it'll be important in my future, so i'd like some help with it

thanks

0 Comments
2024/12/01
22:41 UTC

0

How is this possible???

okay so when I say “Haus zu verkaufen“ it translates to “house for sale” and also when I say “Haus für kaufen“ it ALSO translates to house for sale.
What on earth is the difference btw using Zu and Für

4 Comments
2024/12/01
23:50 UTC

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What are some German words that seem harder to pronounce non German speakers, but are actually not that hard to pronounce?

31 Comments
2024/12/02
01:23 UTC

1

German speaking Beauty Youtubers

Hi! I am currently enjoying learning German and my instructor suggested I watch some videos only in German to help my comprehension. I enjoy beauty YouTube content and thought that it might be fun to merge my two interests. However, whenever I look for beauty youtube videos in German my algorithm is only bringing up German beauty youtubers speaking in English. Maybe there's a setting I'm missing or I am using the wrong search words? Do you have any only German speaking beauty youtubers that you would recommend? Danke!

2 Comments
2024/12/02
00:50 UTC

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For an English speaker, what is the most funniest German word to pronounce?

212 Comments
2024/12/02
00:42 UTC

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How is this the translation?

I found this sentence in a book:

Ich schade mir ja damit, irgend etwas richtig zu genießen.

And deep L says it means

I am harming myself by not enjoying anything properly.

Where's the "not" coming from?

I would have guessed it meant

I am harming myself by enjoying something properly.

4 Comments
2024/12/02
00:06 UTC

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Goethe Digital Test Opinions?

Hi I am checking in the web of the Goethe institute and I can see they now have a new digital version of the Goethe exam, someone has experience with this version? I want to present B2 exam but I want to know the differences with the normal test and opinions of people that has already experience with this new format? Thank you.

2 Comments
2024/12/01
22:25 UTC

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