/r/Avatar_Kyoshi
A subreddit focused on The Chronicles of The Avatar, a series of novels set in the same fantasy universe as Avatar The Last Airbender. As well as discussion of the lives and legacies of the featured Avatars (Kyoshi, Yangchen, and Roku).
The Rise of Kyoshi, The Shadow of Kyoshi, The Dawn of Yangchen, and The Legacy of Yangchen are written by F. C. Yee. The Reckoning of Roku and the upcoming The Awakening of Roku are written by Randy Ribay.
F. C. Yee’s "The Rise of Kyoshi" and "The Shadow of Kyoshi" delve into the story of Kyoshi, the Earth Kingdom–born Avatar. The longest-living Avatar in this beloved world’s history, Kyoshi established the brave and respected Kyoshi Warriors, but also founded the secretive Dai Li, which led to the corruption, decline, and fall of her own nation.
Shadow of Kyoshi Cover, book releases July 21st
Rise of Kyoshi Audiobook releases May 19th?
Rise of Kyoshi Paperback Version releases July 7th
ATLA Steelbook Includes Rise of Kyoshi Excerpt
Rise of Kyoshi Initial Discussion
Rise of Kyoshi Re-Read/Chapter Discussions
Rise of Kyoshi – Amazon, Abrams Books
F. C. Yee, Author – Twitter, Website
Shadow of Kyoshi – Overview, Amazon, Abrams Books
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I found a copy of Legacy of Yangchen in orange at Target, this was around the time or right before Roku’s release. Once I got my copy of Roku’s book I realized that they’re the exact same color! I think it’s some sort of factory error. It’s the only one I’ve seen like that. Left to right: standard color of Yangchen #2, special colored copy of Yangchen #2, standard color of Roku #1
Yesterday, I was research Lovecraft mythology and although it is never stated officially the gods from lovecraft or the Cthulhu mythos are generally placed into four basic categories: OuterGods/Other Gods, Elder Gods, Great Old Ones, and Great Ones. and this got me thinking about the Spirits.
For an example we know in the Kyoshi novels that Father Glowworm is far older then Koh who is the oldest spirit to remembered to see the spirits of Tui and La. Then you have Koh's mother The Mother of Faces, Raava and Vaatu being from the Beginning of Time. Then you have the minor spirits that we see in Korra and Hei Bai.
As far as Lady Tienhai and General Old Iron I could see them being the same age or category as Koh if we assumed that Old Iron is just that Old.
Then in the New Roku Novel you have the two spirits that the Lambak Clan name Yungib.
Granted while I'm talking hierarchy as in the usual meaning I think It could have being a term of which one is older like Father Glowworm for an example being older then Koh who witnessed the moon and ocean spirit.
Like how would the characters like say the members of Yangchen Network, Team Kurruk, The Flying Opera Company. and even characters who died tragically such as Jetsun, Nujian, Lek, and Malaya.
As well as the villains like Chaisee, Henshe, The rest of the Zongdus, Jianzhu, Tagaka, Xu Ping An, Huazo, Chaejin, Yun, and Ulo. Like how would these characters be remembered historically?
Is it something like this
''66 B.G.
3 months after Roku leaves for his airbending training.
A few weeks after chapter 52
65 B.G.
Now there are some issues with this framework for an example by the time of Sozin arrival on Lambak Island how long did the Western Kingdom trading company were on the island was it shortly or two days before Sozin and his team arrive. then you have Ta Min arriving at The Southern Air Temple a week after Sozin's first step on Lambak Island.
Interesting in the Malaya chapters it states that she first encounter with the Western Kingdom trading company was two moons ago and later when Yuming (who is the name of the mother that comes with the six earthbenders along with her daughter.) states that they were sailing around the South Sea to find Lambak Island for months?
The names of Roku’s parents his grandparents (which of his parents is their child.) as well as the name of his clan?
The names of Ta Min’s clan, the exact number/gender/names of her siblings, and the name of her father?
Does Queen Guo Xun of omashu have a family of her own if so does she at this point have grandchildren or great grandchildren.
The exact time of when did the Night of Silenced Sages happened was it before the novels, or it takes during the three month gap of the first novel or during the one year between both books.
Especially the latter since we know that Jianzhu and Yun went to the Fire Nation to end the first phase of the Camellia-Peony War after Fire Lord Chaeryu and Yun becoming friends with Zoryu even sharing with tea likely introducing Earth Kingdom tea to the royal family that we later see with Iroh?
Here what the wiki says about what happened after Shadow:
"Maintaining order in Ba Sing Se
Kyoshi returned to Ba Sing Se soon after the Camellia-Peony War, and over the next two years, she helped establish a task force which swiftly dealt with the most dangerous daofei and violent criminals in the Lower Ring of Ba Sing Se. Kyoshi received support from Ambassador Quin of the Fire Nation in this endeavor, and the ambassador convinced the then-ruling Earth King, Yi Ming, to officially adopt the task force. Kyoshi was needed elsewhere, and left Rangi in Ba Sing Se to keep an eye on things, while the task force was given over to the control of the Earth King. Soon after Kyoshi left, the Earth King began to use the task force to threaten criminals who stood in the way of his power. When Ambassador Quin's children were kidnapped, Rangi saw the turmoil growing in the city, and worried that things would turn violent, and left the city to inform Kyoshi of the situation.[54][55]
During this time, Kyoshi was contacted by Wan Shi Tong, a spirit who kept a vast library of knowledge. The spirit's Knowledge Seekers informed the Avatar that a daofei group known as the Paper Knives had stolen a tome of great value and importance. Kyoshi did not fully understand what was in the book, and she had no time to rescue a book when she was dealing with people and their lives. She ultimately set the task to recover the book to her friends and allies, who turned to their contacts.[56].
Establishing the Kyoshi Warriors Eventually, Kyoshi mastered the Avatar State, becoming feared and effective while restoring order in the world.[57] She managed to maintain a "tense equilibrium" between the four nations.[58]
Kyoshi also did not hide her bisexuality and attempted to effect greater tolerance for non-heterosexual people in the notoriously conservative Earth Kingdom. Nevertheless, these efforts had little impact.[59] When she visited the ports of her adopted homeland peninsula, she constantly had to put carousing men in their place after they caused trouble to the female villagers. Eventually, she decided to train the women in defensive combat so that they could defend themselves. These women later formed the first band of the Kyoshi Warriors.[60]
Stopping Chin the Conqueror
During Kyoshi's life, the 46th Earth King's rule was unpopular among the populace of the Earth Kingdom. Using this to his advantage, a warlord named Chin launched a war to conquer the continent. He was successful until he reached the peninsula where Kyoshi lived, finding the Avatar waiting for him. Standing before his army, Chin demanded their immediate surrender, and Kyoshi warned him that she would not sit idly by as he took her home. When he refused to back down and assumed a challenging earthbending stance, she unfurled one of her fans and fired a powerful air blast at him, leaving the humiliated warlord down to his underwear. Kyoshi subsequently entered the Avatar State and separated the peninsula from the mainland by using a combination of earthbending, lavabending, and airbending, forming Kyoshi Island and thereby protecting her homeland from subsequent threats. An indignant Chin was left standing on the edge of the newly-formed cliff, which began to crumble beneath his feet and, as he refused to budge from his unstable position, caused him to fall into the sea and drown, ending his campaign and ushering the world into a great era of peace. Though Kyoshi was only tangentially responsible for Chin's death, she herself saw little difference between causing the circumstances of his death and actually striking him down, and would claim to have personally killed him for generations afterward.
Because of Kyoshi's act, the people of Chin Village on the mainland founded Avatar Day to vilify Kyoshi, and all succeeding Avatars, for the death of their leader. The people of Kyoshi Island, meanwhile, founded "Kyoshi Day" on the same day as Avatar Day, to honor her creation of the island and the restoration of peace to their village.[3] The same year, they erected a large totem, topped with a statue of Kyoshi to honor her.[61]
History with the 46th Earth King
Sometime after her final confrontation with Chin, Kyoshi was summoned to Ba Sing Se upon the request of the Earth King, since his unpopular rule had led to a peasant uprising in the city. By the time Kyoshi reached the city, the peasants had already destroyed everything that represented the "old government", including ancient and valuable artifacts that held historical and cultural importance. The King demanded that she stop the uprising by whatever means necessary. However, Kyoshi staunchly refused, stating that it would not be right for her to do so. Incensed by her defiance, the Earth King ordered his guards to arrest her. However, the King was left cowering on his throne as Kyoshi dispatched his guards in a single move and admonished him in turn for daring to defy the Avatar. Held at the point of Kyoshi's war fan, the quivering monarch agreed to a compromise: the Earth King would give the peasants a voice in his ruling, while Kyoshi, in turn, agreed to protect Ba Sing Se's cultural heritage from further desecration. She proceeded to train an elite platoon of earthbenders called the Dai Li, though their subsequent corruption weighed heavily on Kyoshi in her afterlife.[13]
Later life
In her later life, the Earth Kingdom entered an age of peace and prosperity. Kyoshi helped implement various bureaucratic policies to aid the poorest of the kingdom, and strengthened ties between the fifty-five states of the Earth Kingdom. The constitution that she drafted with the 46th Earth King was upheld by her for nearly two hundred years until her death. The Earth Sages that had once been against her began to seek redemption after seeing their order embarrassed and diminished in status, and they began to regain the people's trust they had lost, embracing their true role as wise advisors and academics. Many young people in the Earth Kingdom looked to Kyoshi and idolized her, such as princess Guo Xun of Omashu, who later became the city's queen.[62]
Kyoshi had a series of companions throughout her life. Her final airbender companion was a nun from the Eastern Air Temple named Disha, who joined her when Kyoshi was already more than two centuries old. Their last mission together was in 84 BG, pursuing a daofei leader in the Earth Kingdom. Kyoshi and Disha learned that the outlaw was the son of a man the Avatar had executed many years prior, and that he had his band commit various atrocities for the sole purpose of drawing Kyoshi's attention and to have the chance to face her himself.
After they challenged the daofei, Disha told Kyoshi how the man's actions had been shaped by her own decision to kill his father years ago. The nun believed that too many of the problems they had faced had become the direct consequences of the Avatar's earlier actions, and that she feared what Kyoshi might become if she lived another century. Kyoshi deeply misliked her companion's advice, and Disha chose to part ways with the Avatar as a result. When Disha told the Council of Elders about her concerns, word spread, and soon no airbender master was willing to assist Kyoshi any more.[63]
Death
Kyoshi died in the year 82 BG at the age of 230, two years after she and Disha parted ways.[63] She was the oldest confirmed Avatar and human in history,[7] though some other individuals were rumored to have lived even longer.[64] It is possible that Kyoshi learned the secret of immortality from her spiritual teacher, Lao Ge.[14] Her daughter Koko succeeded her as the leader of Kyoshi Island,[11] and she reincarnated as the Fire Nation noble, Roku.
While news of Kyoshi's passing would spread across the world, no one was sure how death had actually managed to catch up with the Avatar, not even her close companions. Sister Disha presumed that Kyoshi eventually came to believe Disha may have known her better than she knew herself, and simply "let go", choosing to finally end her immortality and let the Avatar Cycle continue.[63]"
Now that "The Reckoning of Roku" had been released for a couple months now, I thought that it would be fun to give some headcanons from the relationship of Avatar Kyoshi and Sister Disha:
These are just my headcanons for what their relationship could've been like. All of this could be invalidated if it gets expanded on in "The Awakening of Roku," but for now I am content with this. Feel free to post if you have any of your own, I would love to hear about it.
Not sure if annotating is the way for these type of books so I'm tryna hear what you guys think
The majority of info we have on the split is from really old and canonically-iffy material like the Ultimate Pocket Guide, The Lost Scrolls books, and The Old nickolden.website so seeing it 'recanonized' and expanded would be nice.
we could learn new details like who were the major figures such as the Chief of the North and the leader of the movement that later would technically be The 1st Southern Chieftain. What was the moment in the civil unrest in the North that make a large group of warriors, waterbenders, and healers deciding to leave the north altogether.
I hope that the journey to find a new hope is similar to Moses's Exodus in terms as an epic and more similarities with Virgil's Aeneid and Homer's Odyssey where for The Aeneid could definitely be an inspiration...a charismatic leader taking their entire people out of a shattered land to permanently settle far, far, away. The perils and length of the voyage does recall, in some respects, the Odyssey.
I always assumed that the Foggy Swamp Tribe were part of the group that become the Southern Water Tribe when they still wandering to find a home some of them got lost and settle in the Foggy Swamp.
Maybe during the Journey It is where The Wandering group who later become the Southern Water Tribe is where they first discover Jasmine Island which resulted in regular trade with the locals of the island and the much later Southern Water Tribe.
If you're against furries it's fine, but I'm seeking other casual people's attention as to know their opinion in what type of fursona Kyoshi would have if it were to be made in an anthropomorphic style instead of them being presented as humans.
I assume roku is gonna have a second book at some point but is anything confirmed?
Yun said that the Fire Navy are allowed to fly military colors in the Eastern Sea for the first time since the reign of 22rd Earth King.
For some reason I can't help but if there is some connection to the Plantinum Affair as that event result it's huge restrictions on both Fire Nation and Water Tribes by the Earth Kingdom.
I know some people think Earth King Feishan is the 40th Earth King that Lao Ge killed but what if Feishan is the 22rd Earth King instead?
For an example The book The Legacy of Yangchen include references to Avatar Legends: The Roleplaying Game, featuring Natsuo Island. It is also the first to reference Avatar: Generations (mentioning owl wolves, which debuted in the mobile game) and Avatar: The Last Airbender Cookbook: Official Recipes from the Four Nations (with ingredients used in Yue's Mooncakes appearing in the Spirit Oasis).
Given that it is a new project I could see some references to the new game in the book especially given it is likely it will take place in Omashu. I could see a chapter where Queen Guo Xun would recount the history of Omashu to Avatar Roku (which would likely include Oma and Shu maybe showing their tombs, King Buro and their involvement during Chin's conquest, and her idolized of Kyoshi as a child, who supported Guo Xun's family taking the throne with the sacred duty to protect Omashu. When she became queen, she wholeheartedly embraced the political structure the Avatar had helped create.) she could tell about the city during the ice age that happened more than 7,000 years ago and the horrors that befall for not just Omashu but also the world at the time before the Avatar restored things. Maybe we could learn that before the Ice Age There was a single continent that connected the north and south poles, The Fire Islands (as a land-bridge like Japan was.) and the Earth Continent and in which Avatar Wan would likely lived on the single continent before the Ice age likely split the huge landmass up.
Granted we don't if Omashu exist during this time but I could see them somehow reference the Ice age in this book?
c. 9,829 BG — Year of the Rabbit
Sometime between 9,829 BG and 3,829 BG
Sometime between 9,829 BG and 7,000 BG
c. 7,000 BG
c. 3,829 BG — Year of the Rabbit
Sometime between 9,829 BG and the last year of the era of Szeto
Like how would one described the history of the Fire Nation in each era as well as giving historical terms for each time period in the country's history. Both the starting and ending points for each time period. How each event in the different eras of the Avatar had impact the country and how does it evolved over the years? How would you described each Fire Lord's (Mainly Yosor, Gonryu, Chaeryu, Zoryu, Taiso, and Sozin.) reign (both personality and ruling style.) and which one was important, good/great and which was bad/worst along how their reigns impact both internal matters and external affairs as well as further consequences in the near future?
Speaking about Sozin I do wonder considering his reign last for 78 years how would divided each time period for his reign would it be something like Early Reign, Mid Reign, and Late Reign?
Recently it was announced that Saber Interactive, the studio behind Space Marine 2, will be working on AAA RPG Avatar The Last Airbender game. Naturally not much has been revealed about it this early on but apparently it will be taking place thousands of years before Aang’s era and will be featuring a brand new and unexplored Avatar who you get to play as.
Given the fact that this game will be taking place at least a thousand years before Yangchen’s era and likely at least 6 thousand years after Wan’s, I’m curious from a world building perspective what kinds of things we’ll see and thought it would be fun to speculate on it.
Two things I’m personally most interested in seeing is the state of long distance travel and the young early stages of the four nations. With the game taking place so far into the past it’ll be interesting to see international travel between the nations is very limited due to the lack of refined port towns and ocean-faring ships. And depending on how far the game takes place, we might be experiencing an era where the nations(especially the Earth and Fire nations) as we know them have only relatively recently been formed and are still mostly just a disorganized collection of warbands/citystates.
Hi all! Big kyoshi fan, and I've been trying to find artists selling prints, without much luck. Anybody know of any good sources?
Thanks!!
When Yun was struggling with firebending, Jianzhu made his practice on spikes to "disconnect" him from his native element rather than burning his feet.
Since it was to remove his seismic sense... why wouldn't Jianzhu just have him put some some shoes with thick soles or something?
Maybe I missed something lol
What do y’all think of the lyrics?
Obliviously for Fire Lord Taiso we hear about the Outer Islands Rebellions in the Roku Novel. But for Sozin in case you don't know about most of it is from the Avatar Legends RPG corebook:
''In 58 BG, Sozin ascended to the throne following the death of his father.^([5]) The earliest years of his reign saw the last true conflict between the Fire Lord and the noble clans, which was won by the Fire Army in a decisive victory commanded by General Oraso Eiko. The nation was considered to be finally united under the throne.^([12]) After bringing the warring families to heel, Sozin made great strides toward progress in his country, uplifting the poorest of the nation.^([10]) .''