1. Luna heir and luna herself, that it?

2. What Aaravos tried to accomplish in the last 1000 years before he was in prison? He could easily release the spirits of the moon Nexus by illusion and manipulation.

3. The orphan queen, she doesn't even have a name, we need more information about her.

4. Ziard, his relationship with Aaravos was supposed to got more contact.

5. More details about the staffs in the starscraper.

6. Where is the ocean and stars Nexuses

7. How Claudia and Terry met.

8. Poor kappe'r is in the coin still.

9. Callum using primal magic make him a target of the cosmic order, I assuming at least.

10. The key of Aaravos, the magical book is indeed in Elrion just some of us though, we need to continue this story.

11. What the hell was Harrow did in the bird for two years?

12. How Ezran and the group got the map from the opening scene? Like what was that about.

13. Is Claudia in space or simply where Leola died, in the sea, because it wasn't clear, at least for me.

14. The battle between the archdragon and the startouch elf that created the novablad, why they were fighting.

15. Was bait officially becoming adopted father?

Anything I missed?

First off, I only heard that from multiple people, didn't saw thus myself so I habe no proof really but I also don't think they lie.

So apparently the writers comfirmed on twitter that the merciful one suppose to be significant in arc 3, like major focus. I don't think it necessary mean a main character level but they're suppose to be important.

Obviously it's not much, but I thought to share this because it can suggest some things about arc 3(if that happens of course).

So arc 3 comfirmed to have at least 7 years time jump, so I assuming the writers planning to give the storyline of Aaravos vs the startouch elves a conclusion. It definitely felt like a lot of what we saw was set up and built up to something much more than what we got, and with that note about the merciful one been significant implied to me personally that we first, we will definitely see more of it, secondly, the merciful one may becoming a major heroe(at least on their side), of the our main characters, considering they're the the only the startouch eld that seem to have some level of heart and no weird desire to murder a child.

It not much really but I thought to share it, what are your thoughts?

Does the message hold up or make sense in the context of what is portrayed in the show?

I feel like it's very one-sided. Only the humans are expected to make amends, while all the cruel things the elves and dragons have done—both in the show and its lore—are easily forgiven or swept under the rug.

I just realized something. He fast travels underground like Bugs Bunny. Make of that if you will.

Can he even fly? Are his wings vestigal?

If there can be dragons of all the primal arcana, then could there be a dark dragon? Not the movie dragon that was granted at the end of Season 7, but a true dark monster, like the Linnorm in Pathfinder.

Bullshit youtube channels are posting about season 8, it's all release dates and "confirmed". They wouldn't if they wasn't a big fandom what would click those as they care only about the click. That gives me hope, weirdly

What if the Elves and Dragons both decided that their side of the continent wasn’t big enough for both species? Who would win, and what would happen to the loser? Below are two scenarios where this conflict could happen:

1. Dragons Start the War

The ruling Archdragon—whether Thunder or a new dragon who usurped him—takes a more hostile stance against the elves. This Archdragon sees elves as no better than humans in the west and gives the order to treat them accordingly. Dragons are given free rein to attack elven settlements, with Sun Dragons burning both the Moonshadow Forest and the Uncharted Forest to ash. Storm and Earth Dragons level Lux Aurea, reducing it to ruins.

2. Elves Start the War

A trio of influential elves—Prince Karim, Finnegrin, and Warlon—form an alliance, each with their own reasons for wanting to overthrow dragon rule.

• Finnegrin wants to hunt in the Ocean freely without dragons restriction.
• Warlon desires to enslave them as beasts of burden for bragging rights.
• Karim believes dragons are holding Lux Aurea back from reaching its full potential.

Finnegrin had convinced Karim to finance the revolution and serve as its public face, ensuring he takes the fall if things go wrong.

Possible Timelines for the Conflict

1. Shortly After the Magma Titan Mission

Inspired by the Polish tale of The Wawel Dragon, the revolutionaries lure the Dragon King and Queen to their deaths. They present the dragons with cows stuffed with sulfur as a gift. After eating them, the dragons go to drink from a nearby river, but the chemical reaction inside them causes their bodies to combust and explode.

2. During Season 3

Before the Battle of the Storm Spire, the revolutionaries manage to plant hidden explosives. During the battle, they detonate, causing the entire spire to tilt and collapse, crushing both the human and Sunfire Elf armies. When the Duren and Katolis Rebels forces arrive, they find only one survivor: a badly injured but alive Zubeia, who mistakenly blames the humans for the destruction. Worm Aaravos is killed in this scenario as well.

3. During the Two-Year Gap Between Seasons 3 & 4

The revolutionaries either execute the sulfur trap from the first scenario or seek out Claudia and Aaravos, with the latter convincing them that they share the same goal. If they join forces, I can imagine Viren dealing with both Terry as his daughter’s boyfriend and Karim delivering yet another speech about bringing the Sunfire Elves to greatness.

I'm also curious about how others think a Xadia civil war could happen.

In season 7 after Astrid informs Callum that Aaravos escaped (and also revealed that Callum blundered badly) Callum flies away and talks to dark Callum.

The most reasonable assumption is that this is a dramatization of Callum talking to himself or that it is his imagination of him talking to himself. But, the most reasonable explanation is not the only one. What if he was actually talking to an illusion of himself using the moon arcanum?

One line of evidence that this is not just Callum's imagination is to compare it to scenes that do something similar. The show has had a couple serious segments where we see into the imaginations of the characters. (I am not counting fever dreams, flashbacks, and humorous animation such as Claudia meeting Zym, Callum eating moonberry surprise, etc.). Three that I can think of are Rayla receiving the bow-sword from Runaan, Viren's thoughts as he dies (for the last time), and Ezran seeing his mom and dad on the throne of Katolis. All of these are short. Further the last two are more flashbacks and the first involves a Moonshadow elf (who is connected to the moon arcanum).

Even with this, the most reasonable explanation of Callum talking to dark Callum is that it is occurring in his imagination. But what if actually happened?

We know that moonshadow mages can create illusions of themselves from when Lujanne did it in season 2. Further, by being immersed in the moonshadow elf culture (after studying magic so long), Callum was in an ideal situation to learn it. Finally, the other times we have seen Callum learn an arcanum happened in a situation of stress where he had to reevaluate who he is in order to move forward. The previous two happened when he felt guilt for using dark magic and this is right after he found out he messed up and that dealing with Aaravos might require him to use dark magic again.

The major con to this is that he doesn't announce it to anybody nor does he use moon arcanum spells later. Still, I can't help but wonder if the writers were hiding Callum's connection to the moon arcanum in plain sight.

I would love to have more information one way or the other. Has someone asked the writers/creators about this scene? Am I missing something important that proves this was only in Callum's imagination? How crazy/being a Callum-stan do you think that I am?

Personally I found it kind of sweet, but a bit confusing, because I assuming her wish was suppose to be related to her personally, but I didn't get the feeling that it the case.

Her wish was that childrens will know they are loved, maybe because her father loved her so much she wished it for everyone?

But her wish about even in darkness and sadness make it seem like she can relate to those feelings, but it seem no to be the case with with her Aaravos.

Also I think it would be better if Aaravos was the one to reveal what her last wish was, by the way when she even had last wish? They never explained it.

What do tou think about her wish?

What do you think Aaravos ultimately intended to do in Season 3? What did he really want to do? I know he wanted to use Zubeia's power to... What exactly? I can't remember at all. What was the actual effect of that? Does anyone know?

I just watched seasons 1-3 in one sitting, I can't believe I've missed out on this show for so long.

I can't believe Claudia didn't listen to Soren. It actually makes me angry. Soren almost died and she's still going to pick her father who put the both of them in danger.

I started this whole thing to see if I’m the problem, or if it’s the writing.

It’s both.

I expected a lot from Virens character based on the first 3 episodes. I expected the series to treat Viren as the morally gray hero who wants the same thing that the heroes want, but his methods aren’t always the right ones or the morally right ones, but that there are times where his methods are needed and they work. That sometimes Callum and Ezrans methods are the right ones and they work, and sometimes Virens methods are the right ones and they work,

I expected him to be someone who is genuine in what he wants. As in, he genuinely wanted to save Harrow, and he genuinely wanted to defend his kingdom against the forces of Xadia. He genuinely loved his children. He was genuinely a good person and a good guy.

I expected him to be a good and loving father that loved and cared for his children and they loved and cared for him back, but they disagreed about his methods.

But that’s not what the show wanted him to be. So I can accept that what I wanted of Viren, did in someway, affect how I viewed him and his writing in the story the first time around . He wasn’t what I expected or wanted him to be.

So with that acceptance in mind, and understanding that what I expected Viren to be ,isn’t how he’s going to be written, I went back in with an open mind. I wanted to see what everyone else seen in his character. Is he really as well written as everyone claims he is, and I was just blocking it out because of my preconceived notion and expectations. Was I the issue for not seeing this well written character?

No, I didn’t see this amazing writing or this beautiful redemption that everyone else seen. And I don’t see it, because it was badly written into the story. Keyword is story.

In a vacuum Viren is a decently written character. that’s why I latched on to him almost immediately. To me, Viren is easily the most interesting character in the entire series. Of course there’s some issues like him wanting to kill the princes for the sake of making him evil. But other than that, a lot of his writing is actually good. I can even accept the abuse in a vacuum because my favorite character in MHA is endeavor and he was even worse than Viren and to 4 kids and a wife. So it’s not like I don’t like abusive characters or portraying abuse in fiction.

However the problem comes when you take him out of the vacuum and put him in the narrative.

For example, Viren’s paranoia is understandable. It makes sense based on the first three episodes. His king was killed by assassins from Xadia in retaliation of killing the dragon king. It makes sense that he believes that there’s more coming. However when you do nothing to validate it in the story, and it’s only viren who has it, and viren is then made in the wrong, that’s when the bad writing pops up. At no point is this paranoia validated by the story. It’s just, yes Viren is paranoid for a justified reason, but nobody else cares and think it’s important and neither does the story.

That’s an issue, because Viren is now presented as the bad guy who is doing bad things only because he’s paranoid over a threat that doesn’t actually exist. Because that threat does not exist in the actual story. Viren is the threat. Viren is the one that’s killing monarch’s and other kings and queens. viren is the one attacking the kingdoms. Even if you want to argue that it’s still his paranoia, the story is not validating that paranoia because it does not exist in the story.

Instead of validating that, what the story does instead is present Viren as a selfish person who is only doing what he’s doing for the sake of power and validation. It’s not presenting viren doing this as a good intention. It’s presenting it as bad intentions.

And if they wanted to stick with Viren being the bad guy for the sake of being the bad guy, then that’s fine too. After all, I’m open to how the show wants to present Viren. But that’s not what they want to do. They want to have Viren be a decently written character on his own, but not in the actual story.

Another example is this redemption he has…the story presented us with two scenarios in which Viren used dark magic to help people for a good reason. There was saving Sorens life, and then there was saving thousands of people from dying of starvation because of Harrows decision.

Neither of these are presented as good things in the story. Killing the magma titan is only shown to have led to bad things and bad things only. It doesn’t focus on how it saved thousands of peoples lives. It only focuses on the fact that the dragon king killed three queens and then Viren wanted revenge which led to Harrow being killed.

If you wanted to add complexity to this, you have to show the good. You cannot skim over it to highlight the bad and the bad only. The series never highlights how what Viren did Saved peoples lives. All it does it say that it led to bad things..

Saving Soren actually holds no relevance to the story. Its only relevance is in Virens redemption, in which it’s not presented as a Good thing at all and his redemption has nothing to do with t the actual story.

In a vacuum Viren once loved his son. But when it comes to the story, is priority is solely Claudia and his character solely revolves around Claudia. Soren has absolutely nothing to do with Virens character to showcase a complex situation. instead it’s simply, viren is an abuser and Soren hates him and that’s it. That’s all we get in the story.

You cannot say that it’s a good redemption because Viren finally wasn’t being selfish and paid the cost of fake magic, unless you want to acknowledge that those two things that Viren did, was a bad selfish thing for him to do. And if it is a bad and selfish thing for him to do, then where’s the complexity? Where’s the good writing? It’s not morally gray because it’s not presented that way.

In the end, if I take Viren away from TDP, he’s a decently written character. But he does not work within the story because the story is black and white. It wants to have its cake and eat too, but it does not work because they have not add any effort to incorporate a complex Viren into the story

So yeah, it's me but it's not me

How would this scenario even happen, one of the Lion Turtles that originally granted humanity the power to bend the four elements in Avatar suddenly appears in the Human Kingdom. It sends a pulse wave of pure Chi energy across the human territories, randomly granting, every ten out of a hundred humans the ability to bend a single element.

For Elves and Dragons, the event feels like a sudden, overwhelming psychic shock—like a piercing dog whistle in their minds. Aaravos from within his prison would only feel a slight discomfort. Once its task is complete, the Lion Turtle would vanishes without a trace, leaving behind only a few wooden chests filled with scrolls detailing the art of bending. This would happen a few years after the mission to take the Magma Titan heart.

Just got into the show this past December, now in early Season 4, and I can’t help but wonder why no one around Claudia seems to notice or care that her hair is turning white?! Not her brother, not her dad, not her boyfriend, no one who’s seen her use that dark hax-type healing spell has said anything about it.

Sure, she could easily change her hair with a spell if she wanted to, but still, I’m sure they can tell it’s not her doing it for style. Is it just not a thing that’s anyone’s noticing, with the dragons, elves, and other magical things around them?

I know I’m getting worried for her; it’s half white now, what happens when it all turns white? Thinking to myself, “Does she lose her ability to do dark magic? Does it kill her? Something worse?” This is just hypothetical questioning, no spoilers please!

I really don’t want her to sacrifice her life to save Viren’s. If anything happens to her, well, you know the meme!

Long story short, worried about the effects of the spell that turns Claudia’s hair white, curious if the other characters ever worry for her too?

Why is a character that was literally a voluntary accomplice in a all of terrible things that claudia did portrayed as "unchanged" and "inocent"?
HE HELPED HER unleash the most U N S P E A K A B L E E V I L in all of Xadia and he doesn't even help Ezran unless unless everyone promises not to kill Claudia (the same person who wouldn't hesitate to burn you to death if you tried to stop her).At least Viren accepts the consequences of his actions even if it leaves him in jail for life but Terry doesn't even seems to see this things as that bad.
Then he talks about how is wrong to manipulate people but then he's ok about tricking Claudia into believing her mom is back?That's hypocrisy as far as I know.

I've been thinking about this ever since finishing s7. To me, Viren's arc, and the way that it ends is the most profound thing in the series. His journey is brutal - and he deserves it, I'm not trying to say he doesn't, he kind of ruined everything.

After the season finale and the reveal we got I went back looking for clues. Didn't find what I was looking for, but there's a scene between Viren and King Harrow where Harrow has Viren kneel (a very different moment for king Harrow) and tells him that he is a servant. It was a very emotionally heavy moment, especially coming back to it after seeing everything that would happen.

The utter humility that Viren found before the season closed out just ties up his arc so we'll, and it's moving to think about what he went through - which he totally deserved, and where he ended up.

If it's not the best arc, then it's probably still my favorite one in the show.

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Dark magic being bad seems to be due to the sacrifices required to keep dark magic going.

I'll break it down into a few categories:

Plant-based sacrifices. Why is this bad? It's like saying gathering berries is a terrible evil. That low level dark magic really doesn't sound like there's any negative effects outside of the user, so why doesn't anyone just draw the line there?

Animal-based sacrifices. If they eat meat and have farm animals in this world, why is this bad? Is that not inconsistent? They wear hides to keep warm, but they can't kill a deer and use it to make a special warmth potion?

Human-based sacrifices. Something needing a heart of a human (or elf, or other high level sentience like a dragon) could be said to be forbidden, sure. I can see that, because they are on the level that is seen as valuable life that shouldn't be bothered. Even still, there are some spells that require hair, nails, etc. Why is this bad?

I'm under the impression that the writers just didn't care to make it "that deep" and instead were more focused on other things, but I'm curious about what other people's interpretations are

The options from each season are:

season 1- ah... Corvus?

season 2 - Janai(she was antgonist to Amaya).

season 3 kasfh

season 4 Karim

season 5 Kim'dael

season 5 Fingrien

season 6 Sol Regem(technically it kairm again because he's more important but ah...).

season 7 Karim again I guess, because Claudia is a main character and it's not a competition really.

unbelievable that the worse character and villain in the show appear more than Viren in arc 2.

I just watched The Wild Robot on Peacock and I was 99% sure that Vontra's voice actor was the same as Claudia's voice actor from The Dragon Prince, Racquel Belmonte. But Vontra was actually voiced by Stephanie Hsu. They sound SO similar. Did anyone else think this?