Just started watching a few days ago and I'm watching Season 1 Episode 6 rn and Angel's fit right here kinda slaps😭 the hat and the shirt is just such a good fit together, What do yall think?

Hi. So I've owned the original Omnibus releases for many years now. I was checking the wiki site and they state that the Angel Legacy Editions collect something else entirely than the Omnibus editions. Is this accurate?

I've spent some time looking into this and can't find any quotes or information as to why the show runners made the scene transitions so effing aggressive. I'm currently on a rewatch and its still happening as late as season 3. I just wanna know why all the loud flashes and noises? What was being accomplished besides igniting seizures?

Anybody remember anything from articles written at the time or convention appearances?

Connor and Cordelia?! WTF

I have to say I am SO DISAPPOINTED by the story line this season. Cordy is my favorite character, and this is just so out of character for her. I dont like Connor at all and I’ve been annoyed since that plot line even came about because it shook the whole dynamic and made it almost a completely different show. Also this is just gross.

Angel and Buffy have the perfect ingredients for great ensemble shows, but imho both shows got fucked up with some dues ex machina contrived plotline bullshit that completely changes the dynamic of the show (and not in a good way… dawn… connor…) Idk it just makes me mad because I loved the feel of the first two and a half seasons and I love Cordelia and this is all just… not the way I was hoping things would go.

Idk what was going on in that writers room like I want an apology from whoever had this idea 😭

Not sure if this question has been answered before on this sub but I’ve seen conflicting things on the internet.

In season 5, when Wesley smashes the Orlon Window he restored the memories that Angel removed to himself, Connor, and Illyria while also keeping the fake ones. This gets mentioned in passing but kind of swept under the rug mostly because there were very few episodes left.

My question is did Gunn and Lorne get their memories back too? I remember something being mentioned about how you had to be in a close proximity to the window to be restored but I’m not totally certain. I know Gunn was in the hell dimension and Lorne back at W&H. Isn’t it odd that they never talk about it and none of the other characters seem to tell them what happened at Cyvus Vails mansion? Are Gunn and Lorne still living on till the end of the series believing those fake memories?

I really liked the episode but it raised a lot of questions with this plot hole. Any thoughts or answers would be greatly appreciated, thank you! :)

Jasmine is a former higher being, so why does her true form look like a maggot-ridden corpse?

Julie Benz was on a Gilmore Girls podcast recently (they do a weekly segment on pop culture references and since Buffy was mentioned and the creator watched a lot of BtVS while writing the show etc they brought on Darla)

It was a good interview she talks about Hi Honey I’m Home, Dexter, Buffy, and Angel, and Saw V. Some highlights -

• she auditioned for the role of Buffy but they originally had her start the show at age 14 and Julie (her words) was too old at 22/23 to play a high school freshman so she was brought back as the first vampire we see on the show
• Because she’s one of the first vampires on the show she was kind of a guinea pig for testing the look of vampires on the show. She developed a bit of an allergy to something used in the process but by the time she got to Angel they had the process down to a science
• There was a person in charge of putting in and taking out her yellow contacts. She is not a contact lens wearer so maybe that’s why not sure if it’s standard for all featured vamps
• Her favorite scene on Buffy is when “she got to be a badass” (Angel) and she jumped onto the pool table
• She cracked a vampire tooth doing this and said she broke the most teeth of any vampire on the show
• Her favorite scene she did on Angel was in Dear Boy when she and Angel are talking and she holds a cross up to him and says “God doesn’t want you but I still do” (which is also my favorite Darla scene)
• She was very nervous about singing Ill Wind

Also a teacher ir coach or whatever at an acting camp she went to when she was 16 told her she would never be an actress 🙄

Overall a good listen, about an hour.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/i-am-all-in-with-scott-patterson/id1563792491?i=1000684186751

If Doyle lived and he and Cordelia started dating do you think they'd be a good couple?

Just got to this episode in my latest rewatch. It's been looming for days and now it's here. Every time I watch I am willing it to go differently but I know it's not going to. I hate Knox sooooo much.

Rewatching and forgot she had said this but what did buffy exactly mean when she says that “faith wins again? I don’t see that as a win so was just a bit confused and was hoping someone could give some perspective

I love that Connor's adopted family have the last name "Reilly," a derivation of the Irish surname "Ó Raghailligh."

We already know Angel was able to request tailoring for some of the memory changes so I like to imagine that Angel demanded that Connor be adopted by an Irish-American or Irish-descended family because he was so quietly pissed at Holtz trying to give Connor an English name like "Steven Franklin Thomas."

Angel said never again!

For me Spike and Angel have at least done a few times especially when they were having orgies with Darla and Dru. I feel like both of them could be bi and lean towards women or at the very least curious.

I could also see Connor as gay or bi honestly or I could see him being fluid to his attractions and kinda going on with whatever was his thing at the time. Like if Sunny had been another cute boy that he met when he first got to LA and he kissed Conner I feel like Connor would've just went with it or not minded it.

I wanted to know more about him, and see him actually fight. Like what's was that weird glowing striking power he had, what kind of demon was his demon parent? Whyd he get the " he man woman haters" powers?

Like that made no sense to me. She was the perfect hero for the episode and she did all the work . And it wasn't like Billy was some lost cause to be saved he was horribly misogynistic sociopath

I’m watching s1 e17, Eternity, and I just love watching David Boreanaz’s evil side. He’s so good at it.

The Slayers originally started out being controlled by the shadowmen I'm Africa, when did white Europeans gain control of the Slayers?

Jasmine pretty much says that the powers and the old ones are all pretty much the same types of beings and the only real difference is morality right?

So what's the difference? Like other than humans being slaves in pylea what makes it a hell dimension? The planet the plyleans live on isn't much different from earth and it's living conditions seem par for par.

imagine surviving a slash to the throat after laying on the ground unconscious for like 12 hours? 😭 lucky Wes

If I’m being honest Buffy has defeated stronger opponents on a more frequent basis , was able to pick up the troll hammer spike couldn’t budge , she’s naturally stronger than angel .

But s5 angel is pretty op, he loses to spike only because I think spike wanted it more than angel , but angel states that he’s always been able to curb stomp spike to the point where him losing made him think it was destiny intervening so I think that puts angel above spike considerably.

Angel doesn’t defeat a god like glory but then again Buffy didn’t really defeat her she turned into Ben and tbh glory let herself get knocked around a lot didn’t seem like she really tried. But either way Buffy kicks her ass with a troll hammer .

Angels strongest moment was probably when he defeated the liaison to senior partners named Hamilton who was able to defeat a nerfed but still strong Illyria, claimed to have the wolf ram and harts power within him , and once angel drank that blood he destroyed him , literally one punched him to death , I’m not sure where you rank that . 

Also angelus fought Buffy in s2 to a standstill pretty much , both of them get a lot more powerful since , I would agree Buffy is naturally stronger but if angel is able to bite her and gain a bit of her strength he could probably win .

Any thoughts ? Also how powerful was that troll whose weapon defeated glory ? Could that troll stomp glory , they had to send the troll away lol

Angel the complete series. This is awesome. So excited.

Feel free to disagree but they wasted a lot of potential and the lack of grief for Cordy and the over importance of Fred on the whole was a bit off putting. They grieved Wesley’s dead robot dad more than Cordy.