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I'm picturing Buffy pushing 80 and Angel still looks 27. No wonder she didn't want to break up 😁

So I know both these episodes are quite controversial in terms of reviews. Some people LOVED the idea of OMWF and others hated it. Same with Hush. Myself however, loved BOTH these episodes. The revelation we get from Buffys disclosure to her friends in OMWF is heart shattering and emotionally beautiful. & the twist of Hush had me totally jaw dropped when I was younger watching the first time lol. Both episodes were wonderfully written and executed so well in my opinion. What about you all? Why do you like or dislike the episodes? What are your thoughts on it?

I’m just watched the episode Beer Bad. Is it weird that I sorta have a crush on Buffy as the caveman (not that I don’t already) but something about her as a gave man is strangely attractive to me. Anyone else? Or am I just weird?

My husband, who does not watch the show asked this while I was watching Buffy. I have no idea why he thought she lived in Wisconsin.

When I finished Buffy and rewatched Angel he said "Oh, let me guess— the guy in the leather jacket is going to match the strength of a vampire?"

I said "Yes, that's Angel. The vampire."

"Is that Buffy?" He asked, multiple times when Cordelia, Tara, Amy and Fred were on screen. I thought it was a joke but he was truly clueless every time.

What were some funny comments you received from people that aren't familiar with the Buffy/Angel?

Argument for: Only living people with souls count. If a vampire, demon, or robot is the sole occupant of a house, other vampires can come and go as they please. And it's not clear how Dawn could have gotten a soul. Could a bunch of monks really create an actual soul with a magic ritual, and give it to the Key, even though she was never conceived or born?

Argument against: Dawn was able to invite a vampire into the Summers home once, albeit unintentionally. It seems reasonable that means she is tied into the magic that protects homes, which would imply she has a soul.

just an appreciation to how good of a couple these two could have been. they were iconic in this episode

I watched Buffy first when I was a kid but have recently decided to watch Buffy and Angel concurrently. I found it super helpful to look at the AV Club reviews by Noel Murray and then go through the comments underneath to see what people thought/additional context and it has been infinitely beneficial.

Recently I went back on it after watching a few episodes of Season 6 and they've all just gone?? I've also noticed a lot of the old articles on Buffy have also gone. I can't be the only one? Can anyone explain?

In the ending scene of the episode, The First Evil shifts into prevous villains (Warren Mears, Glory, Adam, Mayor Wilkins, Drusilla, The Master) from each of seasonal arcs of the show and then Buffy herself in order to torment Spike.

While being a cool continuity nod to the past six seasons to the viewer, why would the First even pick those specific people for Spike's torment? Mayor Wilkins and The Master don't have any huge connections to him. He was never intimidated by Warren and he was gone when things got very serious with him. Adam and Glory he was confrontational with, but it was never really personal.

Drusilla and Buffy actually make logical choices here. Shouldn't other characters he had closer ties to like his past family, Angel, the Chinese Slayer, Nikki Wood, or even Harmony have made more logical sense at this moment?

I hate people saying that that *scene* in Seeing Red is "out of character for Spike" or "shoehorned in." He did awful, toxic things, and people trying to look past it is wrong. I always supported Bangel more than Spuffy because I felt like their romance had a sort of timeless feeling that Spike and Buffy didn't. But I don't try to say that Angelus killing Willow's fish or standing over Buffy, watching her sleep was okay just because he didn't have a soul, like how I've seen other people do. I mean, here are just a few of Spike's toxic behaviors (not including the Seeing Red scene)

1. Stalking Buffy through the window

2. The Buffybot!

3. The one scene when he finds out he has the chip while trying to bite Willow. I remember clearly her trying to run, and him grabbing her and throwing her onto the bed. In the context of the scene, it was less creepy in the way I'm thinking, but seeing as most events in Buffy are supposed to be metaphors for real life, it makes you wonder

4. Kidnapping Buffy and Drusilla

5. Kidnapping Willow

6. His Buffy shrine!!

And those are just a few, I could list more!

Spike as a character was interesting. I loved finding out about his backstory, and he provided interesting plot lines sometimes. But he had a disturbing side, and I never found his relationship with Buffy romantic. His toxic behavior was there from the start. People are just refusing to see it.

What's your opinion on Dawn and Xander getting together in the comics (ps. No spoiler after season 10-still reading). To me, that looked weird. Isn't he too old for her?? What do you think?

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I'm a little boggled as to how Wesley is (rightly) criticized for being smitten with a high schooler, and Angel, who's also an adult, never gets any pushback (that I remember). I know at the time we all somehow just collectively accepted the whole centuries old vampire with a teenage girl thing, but there being a character who's criticized for the same thing is something else. Wesley himself even knows it isn't okay and Angel never acknowledges that even when he was lurking outside Buffys school when she was like fourteen.

Do you ever see something and it drives you crazy until you figure it out? I kept noticing this piece of art and after stopping an episode and getting my nose inches away from my tv, I spent a few minutes researching and here we have it.

Andreas Cellarius, a german cartographer, made a celestial atlas in 1660 Harmonia Macrocosmica. This is his phases of the moon.

So now you know.

This is what years of working in public libraries will do to you, kids. Compulsive research.

Cheers, Rupert.

I’ve just finished Buffy last night and I’m so glad I decided to give this show a watch. I’ve always loved supernatural shows and I’m pretty sure this (and Angel, watching now) is the only big supernatural show I hadn’t seen yet.

Watching season 1, this show just gave me a typical monster of the week vibe—which there was nothing wrong with and I was happy with. But it didn’t prepare me for how things changed immediately after that.

Jenny’s death was and still is one of the most shocking in the show to me. I got spoiled early on about Tara’s death, but I didn’t know how she would die. For her to die from a stray bullet from Warren’s gun pissed me off so much, I was still shocked.

At the beginning I talked about hating Angel so much I wasn’t sure if I’d watch his show. Since then my most hated character by far is Warren, and I think of all the shows I’ve seen he’s easily top 5 most terrifying, maybe number one. Of course the most sadistic, cruel, insane villain on the show isn’t supernatural, but a misogynistic, perverted, delusional human.

The Body episode is one of the most haunting episodes I’ve ever seen. Very few things have made me feel the way that episode did. Death is my biggest fear so I hated watching it, but I’m also glad I did. Seeing how the group dealt with the aftermath of Joyce’s death, a character I hated through most of the show and was just beginning to change my mind on her, was good to see. I won’t watch again, but I’m glad I did see it.

So many funny moments from this show I can’t count on my hands. My favorites: “is everyone in here very stoned?,” and Xander trying to sneak jello only to find the lunch lady is the one trying to kill everyone. The comedic bits in this show are unmatched.

Willow is probably my favorite character in the show, and not just because she’s a fellow lesbian (something else I didn’t expect was for this show to have LGBTQ+ representation, especially during a time where a show like Sailor Moon had Uranus and Neptune in the old dub be introduced as “cousins”). She was so nice, innocent and shy, so seeing how she talked to Giles when he went off on her over bringing Buffy back, and then the death of Tara pushing her to become evil, was so shocking.

Season 7 is by far my least favorite in the show. I hated the introduction of all these random ass slayers that were just expected to care about, that one black girl whose name I already forgot was so damn annoying. I also hated how Buffy became so arrogant and dictator-like, to where I didn’t mind the group kicking her out even though I knew she’d come back.

I did love Faith’s return though. Also, unpopular opinion, I love Kennedy. I love that Willow was able to not only find love, but allow herself to love someone again. Kennedy is the only new slayer I actually liked.

And one last bit, Spike and Buffy’s relationship was so weird to me. It never really did get a payoff in my opinion, and it irritated me that all of that happened between them just for Buffy to kiss Angel again when he came back to help her in the final battle.

All in all, a wonderful show that I wish I grew up watching, but glad I got to watch now and it was awesome. I hope future watchers of the show feel the same way I do!

So as I said in a post yesterday, I am rewatching the series and I'm now up to season. 7. Where do I go after this? I've seen lots of information online and a lot of it is contradictory.

So I plan to watch Angel next, but I read that it was cancelled? Is the story left unfinished?

I saw that the comics follow on from season 7, but I also saw people saying that the storyline was a bit confusing and bits were missing?

Do the comics wrap up where angel leaves off too?

I've also seen people say the comics were cancelled but also that the storyline finishes?

Help 😂

I'm currently doing a rewatch (for about the millionth time) and I love this line.

This is not a bash on any of the shows, or their actors. I really like them all for different reasons and love their points of difference… whether those points be the actors and character relationships, lore, film production/direction. Etc.

I actually watched TVD first when I was younger and it’s probably one of my all time favourite and most ‘formative’ shows, because of the time in my life I watched it - it’s one of my ‘rinse repeat’ comfort shows that I often just have on in the background now haha. True Blood is suuuper camp, quite a bit darker, and sometimes a bit much, but still hilarious, and quirky. Obviously much more of the adult, versus young adult entertainment.

(Caveat: both of these shows should have wrapped up after their 4th ish season imo)

Just finished BTVS for the first time a couple months ago, and holy crap. The first season felt like it floundered a bit, apart from some really standout episodes. But I’m blown away by how beyond it’s time it was when it first aired. The entire concept and execution, of a young woman (girl really) chosen to fight demons, in the early 90’s is wild! I love that it was written honestly and passionately, but without just trying to propagandise to people like a lot of modern Netflix type shows do. It treats the audience like they’re smart. Which is refreshing. It caught me by surprise how dark some of it got, and the themes it covered, since it really hooks you in thinking it’s a surfacey, happy-go-lucky type show…. Then episodes like The Body, and Seeing Red happen 😢 but they did those really well - again, without propagandising - just telling the story. Refreshing. SJM, James Masters, Giles (can’t remember his name) and Charisma Carpenter 🫶🏻

Anyway - curious what this fandom thinks of the others.

Fire away.

Absolutely love it

I love their friendship!

Ok, so my girlfriend has never watched Buffy so we've been watching it together. We both practice witchcraft (me more than her but still), and I have been reminded of why I didn't like most of the spell scenes. They never call on the right deity. Firstly, Hekate is not a goddess involved in gender or love/lust, Willow should have called on Aphrodite for her gender swap spell. Osiris is probably the best bet for resurrection, but also it's pretty clear they don't have the Egyptian afterlife, so calling on a different death god would have made more sense, say Hades or Persephone (who isn't a death god, but she does deal with that stuff sometimes)! I can't remember every deity called on, but whenever it was one I recognized due to my own practice in witchcraft or just a hyper fixation, it was the wrong domain for them! This is probably completely useless info for most and shouldn't impact me, but I just kept noticing it and my stupid brain won't let go of it

TLDR: The Buffy spell system makes no sense