TROPHY CASE

How did Dracula survive being staked twice by Buffy? I think he appears later in the graphic novels.

We've seen the show from Dawn and Xander's point of view episodes with "The Zeppo" and "Real Me" but I don't think we ever got an episode like that for Willow.

If you had to write any of the following recurring or one-episode characters into parts of the show they weren't in (like maybe even whole different seasons), what storyline would you give them?

BtVS

• Faith Lehane
• Kennedy
• Jenny Calendar
• Robin Wood
• Ethan Rayne
• Andrew Wells
• Sunday

Angel

• David Nabbit
• Kate Lockley
• Bethany (the telekinetic girl from Season 2's Untouched)
• Gwen
• Anne
• Virginia Bryce
• Gru
• Harmony
• Drusilla
• Nina Ash

(+ any others you think of, obviously)

My answers have always been:

BtVS: Not an original idea, but Sunday should've been a Potential or a Slayer who was turned, and become a Spike-esque (S2-4) recurring wild card/anti-villain who occasionally allies with the group for selfish motives. I think it would've been especially interesting to have her around in the later seasons, when Buffy is questioning her mortality and the darkness of the Slayer role.

Angel: Gwen should've been a recurring character in Season 5. No question about it. She should've been Gunn's love interest after Fred and her presence could've put extra emphasis on Gunn's questionable morals after his lawyered-up transformation if she'd been around to question him/if it had created conflict in their relationship.

I have just finished the series and I loved it, probably a top ten for me. But here are my criticisms of the show:

Overly cheesy: especially in the earlier seasons, the cheese is a bit too much and cringy. This goes for some dialogue too: “when you kiss me I want to die.” This improves later on.

Weak seasons: 1, 4, and 7 were the weakest ones. The start and the end of the show being weak is a pity. They all have their own writing issues. Namely the villains in these seasons being underwhelming.

Xander: I actually like Xander. But I feel like for the main male character (being second in credits always.) he should have gone a way more complex arc, like Wesley in Angel. Become a better fighter using weapons or magic or something. He just felt like comic relief the whole time with a few serious moments sprinkled in (Zeppo, wedding, speech to Dawn.)

Speaking of Dawn, I feel the same way about her. I feel like they didn’t really know what to do with her after season 5.

Too forgiving of crimes: I felt like the show was too forgiving of what people did. Namely with Willow trying to destroy the world. They all just move on. Faith basically raped Riley and it’s never brought

Too much romance: To me, Buffy did feel a little needy in the romance section. She is always looking for a boyfriend or a new date almost all the time. I was glad when Giles called her out on dating in season 7. Seeing her obsess over her one night stand was rough to watch.

I just wanna say that I see nothing as perfect and despite my criticisms I still loved the show and I’m really glad I got to experience it. Buffy will always live in my memory. The symbolism for growing up and becoming an adult was amazing, and I really liked almost every single character.

I don’t know if this is my favorite, but I’ve only just noticed that when Giles is shutting off the TV in “Goodbye Iowa,” they remembered to put the Mark of Eyghon on his arm.

What’s your favorite, or at least a notable bit of continuity from in either Buffy or Angel?

He really was a creep across the whole series in multiple episodes. He proved that he was not one that you could trust.

Even Spike had more redeemable qualities than Xander

I just started watching Grey's Anatomy and never expected to see so many Buffy people on there! I'm only on S4 but Hallie, Robin, Oz...does anyone else show up?

Background: My girlfriend/fiance is a big Buffy fan. She turned me on to it and I like it too; watched it all the way through together once (along with Angel) and we are working on my second watch (which I think is her eighth). But I noticed this on my first watch, over a year ago: the episode Killer in Me has a distinct musical number, called "Kissed to Life", composed by Robert Duncan. I can't remember exactly when it plays during the episode, or the context regarding it, but I'm pretty sure it's very emotionally poignant and plays during a kiss, with Willow (actually Warren? I honestly can't remember) begging for forgiveness. Either way it's a gorgeous piece of music, you can listen here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWTwb2b8xeQ&ab_channel=BARUK

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I immediately recognized this music coming from one of my favorite film score composers, Hans Zimmer, from The Last Samurai, which I'd seen when it came out. I always loved the soundtrack to this film, and this piece of music, titled "Way of Life" is literally the same as "Kissed to Life." Listen here, ESPECIALLY AT THE 3:45 MARK:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp6_Rjxs9U8&ab_channel=TheLastSamurai-Topic

Now, I thought that the composer for Buffy, Duncan, had ripped off the mighty Hans Zimmer, until after doing some googling, I found out that Killer in Me had aired February 4, 2003, while the Last Samurai was released December 1, 2003, basically 10 months later. (My fiance teases me about my musical ear a lot). I thought I would find a million hits about this by googling every variation of: "buffy hans zimmer" "killer in me last samurai" "duncan hans zimmer" and everything in between, but I've found nothing, which shocked me.

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Where am I going with this? Not sure, other than it's an absolutely gorgeous melody, used to great effect in both, and I think Hans Zimmer might be a Buffy fan.

we all know anya has some of the best/funniest lines throughout every season. what's your favourite or one you think deserves more love?

personally, this is mine 🤣

I'm on S2 e20 of Buffy currently and I have to say I really hate this principle lol. He's such a jerk and oddly obsessed with the idea of Buffy being a criminal. Meanwhile he has literally said how much he dislikes kids/teens but he's in charge of the school?? Please tell me I'm not the only one that doesn't like him.

I finished season 2. It's much better than season 1. I felt more sympathy towards Buffy because of her relationship with Angel. It reminds me of what it was like to be young and exploring love, sex, and romance for the first time.

One of my favorite scenes in this season was seeing Buffy kick Ted's ass lol.

It was good to see Willow and Oz start dating.

I hate that they killed off Jenny Calendar. She didn't deserve to go like that. They both deserved a better ending to that relationship. They could have let her and Giles have another season of romance then have her move away.

I have a lot more respect for Giles after this season. He really is like a father. Especially, in the episode "Innocence" when he says:

"If it's guilt you're looking for, Buffy, I'm not your man. All you will get from me is my support and my respect."

And I like Spike much more in this season. He can hold his own and isn't pushed around so easily. He's a fun badass.

From Nerf Herder's Instagram story :)

the show is Buffy the Vampire Slayer, not Willow the Witch so she couldn't outshine Buffy to much

Hey! Just wanted to share I've been subscribing to the Hellmouth Pins Club for over a year. The little purple envelope showing up is always the best part of my month. They are going in episode order so I have fun guessing what is coming next.

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One that it's a little weird for me is that killing humans is a line you should try hard to avoid, killing a human carelessly will change you forever or possibly turn you evil, but then killing demons is just... fine? I get that the human world has its own means to deal with criminals (incarceration), but it's this enough to justify the big difference in mentality?

The government or the royal family?

For me it's Cassie Newton. I just watched that episode, and she would have been such an asset to the scooby gang with her precog abilities, plus she would have made a great BFF for Dawn

Can we talk about how Faith’s redemption arch started when she was in Buffy’s body (S4 E16)?

Our next couple to be eliminated was Spike and Harmony which I totally agree with because I never thought they were anything special and I'm a huge Spuffy shipper

Now let's see who gets voted out today

PS: The couples who have been eliminated are at the bottom of the post

1. Buffy and Angel

2. Buffy and Spike

3. Buffy and Riley

4. Willow and Oz

5. Willow and Tara

6. Xander and Cordelia

7. Xander and Anya

8. Giles and Jenny

9. Spike and Drusilla

10. Angel and Darla

11. Angel and Cordelia

12. Fred and Gunn

13. Fred and Wesley

14. Wesley and Lilah

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Eliminated Couples:

1. Willow and Kennedy

2. Willow and Xander

3. Cordelia and Groo

4. Spike and Harmony

I don’t know how to feel abt this st all. I can’t seem to get over the obvious age difference and it’s better than him with Buffy. But what do u guys think???