We weren't originally going to participate in the blackout, and in fact neither of your mods knew it was happening until the SHTF. However, in thinking about the direction Reddit is going, seeing how Spez has decided to treat the whole affair, as well as the direction we'd like to take the group, u/Tecolopilli and I have decided that our focus is best kept on building our Discord community and associated resources: Teochan.org and the Teochan wiki.

We thank you all for helping to make this community what it is, the lively discussions that have been started here, and the wisdom that's been shared, but it's time for us to move on.

In honor of our Indigenous ancestors and the Indigenous ancestors of this spiritual tradition, we want to emphasize the importance of learning and practicing in community.

As such, what we've built up at the In Yollotl In Omitl Discord server is, moving forward, going to be that primary community: not a calpulli but a teochantli. There has always been much more activity there than on the sub, with good quality engagement, deep discussions, and open sharing of praxis, gnosis, and knowledge grounded in history.

If you'd like to continue learning with us, head there: https://discord.gg/nsUqzZMTKS Link has been updated

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Growing up as a child I have read Aztec mythology and got into it and one of the deities I found interesting was coatlicue and was always obsessed reading her mythology and learning about her now I still read Aztec mythology as a bruja and to learn how to respect it and be educated but when finding this subreddit and reading the rules i got curious cause is coatlicue open to venerate? I am being told she isn’t open and is closed to the Aztecs and I am being told she is but to be respectful

I was reading a response to a Quora question (not sure how to link the comment directly)

The user said Teteoh could also be referred to as "clowns". I'm aware of nahuatl using the -tzin honorific as diminutive form of respect (little one, cutsey), but I hadn't heard of clowns. Thought I'd share.

the response under the Quora question asking why they’re scary:

Divinity is viewed differently in different parts of the world. We can’t apply Western standards. Tibetan, Polynesian and Melanesian deities could be viewed as “scary.” The Aztecs called their gods “little ones” - they addressed them as “children (‘my son, my daughter’)” and “clowns” - i.e. they saw their features as adorable or humorous. The Conquistadors noted how much devotion and affection they had for their gods.

Secondly, it was also believed that “our gods are already dead” - i.e. they had died in sacrifice to create food, water, the world etc., and thus they were depicted as skeletal and cadaverous.

Thirdly, it was believed that bones and organs were the essence of a living being. Gods were considered the “marrow” of things, thus it made sense to depict divinity as forms that exposed the inside of bodies.

Last of all, Aztec religion placed huge emphasis on the spiritual importance of dying well, and being “extinguished” in one form or another. Death was a good thing in their cosmology. The gods were valued as “devourers” who “defleshed” and consumed people. It was believed that Reality - and the highest joy - could only be found after death, which was called ‘The Land of the Fleshless.’ Aztec gods had nahualli (animal-doubles) that were mostly carnivores. This seems to be why Mexicans often kept and honoured carnivorous mammals and birds at the temples. They were fed the bodies of sacrificed victims, and treated as the ‘living image’ of various gods.

https://www.quora.com/Why-were-Aztec-gods-so-scary

Edit: Investigation into the clown angle led me to this paper on meso "Monster-Clown Complex"

Link 🤡

Has anyone here worked with Itzpapalotl? She has been with me from the start of my spiritual journey and awakening but i have no idea how to communicate with her effectively

Hi Iam learning how to speak and write in Nahuatl more. Can you help me learn more?

I’m looking for any good sources on Zapotec/ Mixtec history. Thanks for any help

Apologies if this is improperly flaired or a bad question.

I was wondering what the common beliefs on death are here. The afterlife/afterlives and the divinities associated, any journey it may require to get there?

Sorry for my lack of knowledge and for if I have improperly worded anything.

Thank you in advance for any answers, and have a beautiful day/night!

EDIT- I have now added the video, sorry the link I originally added on this post below didn't upload so I have now added it to the comments.

I was trying to find a teacher and someone to help me learn and the lady has kindly invited me to meet her and her elders when I can afford to travel abroad, it will be a long time away but it good to have plans in place.

She sent me this a few days ago to help me learn a new method of lighting the popoxcomitl. I really like this technique she has shown me and has said she wants to share this with people. I though this group may like to watch the video and that some people may benefit from it.

I hope this is okay to post I have permission from cihua mazatl to post it but the mods might not want this posted so please let me know if u rather I keep this to myself

Do the indigenous experiences include shamanic dismemberment as a part of their practices?

I have spoken to a couple if people from different groups in Mexico who worship and honour the teteo and work with the public. One person said to me they believed coatlicue to be the mother of life on the earth and of many of the teteo, she is the force of nature and rhe duality of it, and that tlatecuhtli is the physical earth from which provides us life but both interconnect and are a part of each other, Someone else I spoke to saw her as two separate beings relating to the earth.

I am aware that there is many interpretations of the teteo but I would like to hear how u view tlatecuhtli and coatlicue as it would if I could see from others points of view and perception

Greetings from Guanajuato Mexico! I’m going to quietly learn for awhile, this feels right

Do any of you know any good books on aridioamerican people. I’ve been trying to learn more (and connect with ancestors I guess although I can’t say with certainty who they were specifically) about the other people in Mexico. I’d like preconquest but I know the difficulty in sources existing in such a field. Thanks (and I’m sorry if this isn’t the place to ask.)

I picked this book up a few years ago at a little bookstore in Pomona and just got around to reading it! Anyone know anything about it? If it's reliable or accurate to our beliefs. I'll post an update once I've finished reading it

Have any of you ever used psychedelics they are known to be use by some what also how would you compare skin walkers to nagual might be some what similar might be different tribe but it sounds the same in what they are able to do also Aztec gods have animal forms or appear animal like with features also My Opinion nagualism or Nahuatl culture breaks down with a soul is more than any belief or religion Then have you always been just involve in the culture by family or people or you have learn on your on what to believe in

Is there a detailed story on it? Sorta like the journey of Ra? I’m asking as a Kemetic interested in aztec religion

Does anybody have any information or resources related to Mexican indigenous practices or ceremonies honoring hair? I am Chicana, but I didn't grow up with much knowledge about hair from my own culture. I know hair is sacred and holds our tonalli. I'm looking for a way to honor my hair while honoring my own ancestors.

I have a lot of relatives in North American tribes, and I've adopted more of their ways than anything. I take good care of my hair. I rarely cut it, and when I do, I use it to mark a new beginning in my life. I burn what is cut with sage. I would like to incorporate my own heritage, but outside of adding copal when I burn it, I don't really know where to start. I'm not even sure if there are comparable practices rooted in indigenous Mexico. Anybody have any thoughts or ideas?

I’ve heard two differing accounts as to who the sun is

I just have a quick question about Mictlan and our appearance in the underworld. I've just been wondering if we are depicted as skeletons in Mictlan? I've seen hints to this being a thing but I've never really gotten a clear answer

What are common food offerings to give to the Teteo? I was thinking of offering corn, but other than that I was wondering what else I could offer