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/r/RomanPaganism is a subreddit dedicated to the creation of a public space for use in the discussion, experience, and creation of a community of understanding of the various forms of Roman reconstructionist, reconstructionist-derived, and non-reconstructionist religious expression. Known variously as Roman Paganism, Religio Romana, and Cultus Deorum Romanorum, /r/RomanPaganism represents a diverse pre-Christian religion of a geopolitical force that helped to lay the foundation of much of the modern world.

Roman religion is founded on two primary tenets:

  • Religio, being the attitude that the gods are benevolent partners of mortals regarding the management of the world, and that the rituals and proscriptions of worship are practiced to to give honor for their help.

  • Pietas, being the sincere and due diligence in fulfilling the requirements of the partnership we have with the gods, and honoring all the obligations that we undertake in performance of our duties.

Roman Paganism is an orthopraxic religion, stressing the correct performance of ritual over correct belief. It is a traditionalist, ritualistic religion, with a clear delineation of belief from religious practice.

The religion is a non-initiatory practice, with no emphasis on revelation or other doctrinal dogma. It lacks a defined moral as separate from the moral codes of the world in which the religion finds itself.

The religion is a polytheistic religion, with a varied characteristic to their gods. From the cold northern regions of Britannia to the hot desert of Ægyptus, local gods were assimilated in to the Roman religious model.

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Offerings

What specific offerings do you give to particular deities you worship?

3 Comments
2024/04/25
21:16 UTC

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Deities you honor

Salvete.

I was just trying to get an idea of what deities you all honor in your lararia on a day to day basis. I'm curious which gods are popular among Roman pagans.

Thanks.

6 Comments
2024/04/23
10:39 UTC

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Personal Experiences w/ Deities

In other subs, personal gnosis is heavily debated as well as other experiences of deities - communication, presence, etc.

I'm a long time practitioner and gods have been unbelievably kind and generous to me, but I can't say that Jupiter has ever spoken to me or that I've sensed the presence of Janus. When I give offerings and accompanying prayers, there is a rather profound feeling that sets in but other than that, I can't say I have the experiences that many "New Age" (for the lack of a better word) have. I've also never been "called" by a deity and I am honestly rather suspicious of the idea that these immensely powerful beings care whether I worship them - they don't need us and certainly they don't need me, irrelevant as I am. But that's just me.

What are your experiences, if you have any to share?

24 Comments
2024/04/16
09:04 UTC

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Animal Sacr1f1c3 nowadays

There is a really big moral implication on animal sacr1f1c3 in paganism nowadays. Most of polytheism followers condemn it for various personal reasons, I think that is valid until a certain point. I am from a place where some of the most relevant religions for our culture still hold ritual sacr1f1c3 in it's practices today (not without the majority of people still judging it) and I honestly don't see it as bad at all. Recently a friend of mine who has a somewhat big plataform on the topic of our local traditional witchcraft posted about him doing the emm0lati0n of 2 chicken and it brought an arguing in the community, wich left me thinking a lot about it. It is no surprise for us at this point that ancient Cvltvs Deorvm had animal sacr1f1c3, so what are your thoughts on doing it nowadays? And are there still any closed traditions who still do it? Please, remind to be respectful, since it is a REALLY important and intimate practice. (Ps: There is no waste in the sacr1f1c3s, the carcass is used to feed the community and is normally entirely used except for bl00d and fat)

23 Comments
2024/04/14
22:52 UTC

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Which Calander do You go by in Your Practice?

I'm curious to know which calander you set your practice to? The modern calander, the Julian calander, or some form of Lunar calander? Because I practice various forms of Polytheism, I've been trying to put together a slightly modified form of a Lunar calander, but oh good gods trying to figure out things like inturlication (I'm totally butchering the spelling of this word, I know), and part of me just wants to scrap my attempt and just go with a modern calander. But a larger part of me wants to stick with it and try and make it work.

3 Comments
2024/04/10
15:02 UTC

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What’s everyone’s personal experience working with Liber/Bacchus?

Title says it all, I wanna know your experiences working with him.

6 Comments
2024/04/10
04:46 UTC

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How should I start praying?

Hello all, so I started on this path only a few days ago, and I want to know how to pray. I can not do offerings or anything very loud because I’m not out of the closet yet. Thank y’all.

2 Comments
2024/04/07
03:17 UTC

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How should I start working with Ceres?

Hello everyone, hey I have a question, how can I start working with Ceres? The reason why I’m asking this, it’s because I am living in a catholic home, and I can’t pray out loud for now, because my parents are not pagan. I am a Norse pagan. and I would love to work with her.

3 Comments
2024/04/06
16:08 UTC

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What do You do for Divination?

For those of you whose practice incorperates Divination in some way or form, what kind of Divination do you practice specifically in regards to Cultus Deorum/Religio Romana?

I know of a number of people who are rebuilding the practice of Augury, and while I have had a couple of successes with it myself, I find it hard to really practice full time as a Blind person. I also know a number of practioniers who read Tarot for a number of reasons. I'll occasionally read them too, primarily in the form of Poker cards, but that is mostly for Clients and not for myself. And especially not as a part of my personal Roman Polytheistic practice.

I practice a number of forms of Polytheism, with Irish Polytheism being my primare faith, and so I read Ogham and Elder Futhark Runes for those specific faiths, as well as part of my professional work. But so far, I've been turning to Geomancy when it comes to doing any kind of Divination in a Roman Polytheistic context. I know it's not originally Latin in origin, but the version I read with utilizes Latin names and terms, so that is a large reason why I prefer to read with it for any divinatioanry needs so far.

I'd love to read what you do as part of your own practice!

5 Comments
2024/04/06
15:08 UTC

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Looking for friends

Hi nice to meet everyone, my name is Fatima, I am 21 years old and I am from Mexico. I like to listen to music, learn new things and I like to learn new languages, and I like to travel anywhere. I hope that I can make Friends here., Oh, and I forgot to mention, I’m totally blind.

0 Comments
2024/04/05
22:33 UTC

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What made y’all decide to start working with the Roman gods?

For me, I like looking up and doing research on ancient Roman culture. After that, I got very drawn to the Roman gods and I started praying and got good signs that I am on the right path.

6 Comments
2024/04/05
22:04 UTC

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Reopened, with caveats

Hey there, it's been an interesting time. A couple months back I got the top mod spot with the intention of opening the subreddit (edit: derp) back up (Not quite sure why Athair made it restricted years ago and disappeared but whatever) with the intention of reopening it. And then health issues happened and I got sidelined.

Got a ping that someone requested the subreddit, remembered I was going to do that, so here we are.

In addition to the general attitude of the sidebar and any wiki that had been written years ago (I must go check), there are a couple things going forward:

  • This is an inclusive space. This will not be debated.
  • Keep the fascist shit out of here. Roman revivalism and reconstructionist polytheism has a big problem with attracting those authoritarian types. This will not be debated.
12 Comments
2024/04/04
19:06 UTC

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How Many Here Are Practicing?

How many people here would define themselves as practitioners of Roman Polytheistic tradition? And if so, how did you start?

12 Comments
2022/04/14
20:43 UTC

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🌈🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈 Announcing: The Liberation Dionysia 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🌈

Hello all! This Spring we are celebrating the Liberation Dionysia over at r/Dionysus. This is a Dionysia instituted in part as a reaction to some of the Queerphobic laws that are being passed in the USA, and also to celebrate the many stories we have within our religion that guide us towards tolerance, equality, and liberation! If you have any original stories or art of the Theoi that fits the theme, please feel free to share!

Info for submissions can be found on the main post, but I'll reshare key points:

Please email all submissions to LiberationDionysia@gmail.com

Submissions open: April 13th to May 8th (Ends May 8th, 11:59 AM AoE)

Voting Deadline: May 15th (Ends May 15th, 11:59 AM AoE)

Thanks y'all! Feel free to comment any questions you have!

13 Comments
2022/04/13
18:14 UTC

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Apollo's Harp - Guardian of the Eternal Flame (Music tribute to Vesta)

0 Comments
2022/04/03
14:47 UTC

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Roman Votive Altar No3 being carved in stone

0 Comments
2022/03/29
04:39 UTC

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Can you recommend a good introductory book?

Can you recommend a good introductory book about Roman paganism and its current revival - which is not written from a ‘New Age’ perspective?

8 Comments
2022/03/28
12:37 UTC

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Help the Imperivm Romanvm community become a non-profit!

0 Comments
2022/03/07
19:48 UTC

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Goddess Caca?

Does anybody know of good threads or articles of discussion about Caca? They refer to her as a proto vesta and she was worshipped in Ancient Rome but I am still unsure of how to approach her.

3 Comments
2022/03/03
15:19 UTC

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Why did the Roman Empire (esp Heartland Home Italy) quickly Adopt Blesed Holy Virgin Mother Mary As THE Goddess When Christianity Became the Official State Religion?

This topic was inspired by a chat I saw on Discord.

Gonna sleep now but I really wonder why the Abrahamic becamse so patriarchal and "women as chattel property" approach? While European Chrstiaity developed so radcally different and kept mother Goddess? I mean even comparing MidEstern Christian sects to Catholicism and Estern Orhtodoxy you see a major difference in the mportance of Mary So what reasoning can you give? Any Good night see yah tomorrow.

Another person made this reply.

Well, the reason behind the Abrahamic denial of matriarchal homage was because of Eve in Genesis, being blamed for tempting Adam to eat the fruit. And in Judaism, it's still present in their practices (Qabalah demonstrates one aspect of how male & female are separated, in a concept of good vs. evil). And the Desert Fathers originally came from that context, which is seen by modern Westerners as "misogynistic" because their own pre-Christian practices accepted women, be it as the role of lustful seductresses like Aphrodite, the downtrodden housewife like Aeval, the mother like Hera or the energetic sportswoman that some men want to follow, like Athena.

And the reason why Mary was such a no-brainer for those cultures to venerate, during the adoption of Christianity, is because of that pre-Christian acceptance of women as having some role in society (regardless of how complex or simplistic that role in society was).

But then, came the Protestant movement & the desire of some sects to resort to fundamental thought in Judaism (i.e.: Eve tempted Adam to eat the fruit, therefore all women are temptresses to be blamed for bringing man away from God). You see that with the Puritans, Plymouth Brethren, Luddites/Amish/Mennonites & Evangelicals

And what modern Westerners are terrible at, is understanding historical context; rather than concluding that the social issues of the US have its roots in Puritanical beliefs (which led to women traumatised from war with the Natives, being then accused of witchcraft & burnt at the stake, for example, or for the Puritanical belief that fair skin is superior over dark skin due to the way the sun shines on different parts of the world,) misogyny, black rights & (within the last decade only) LGBT rights issues are generally blamed on Christianity as a whole, rather than the initial Puritan sect

Another example; Mohammed's massacre of the Khaiber tribe of Jews who chose to break their peace treaty with Mohammed, to try & sell him out to the Kuresh tribe. If you read the Quran & the history of Mohammed in Medina, he made an alliance with the Jewish Khaiber tribe to be given peaceful residence & religious freedom (along with a Christian tribe). However, the leader of the Khaiber tribe was also a trade partner with the Kuresh tribe that Mohammed came from; in wanting to maintain business alliances, the Khaiber chief tried to mount a war against the Muslims, which failed & resulted in Mohammed's executing every Khaiber man of fighting age. If you look at this in the Medieval Arab context, you understand that it was an act of politics & warfare for the purpose of tribal superiority & survival, aside from the control of resources like water, food, etc. But to the modern Western eyes, it's automatically declared to be "anti-Semitic" because of the fact that Mohammed had Jews executed

Anyways, back to the idea of female representation in religion, the fact is there was an Allat & Allah, there was Ba'al Yahu & that god also had a wife (in Canaanite, Nabatean & Phoenician religion, being all pagan pantheons). However, the Jews are collectively & racially people from all 3 of these ethnicities, so historically speaking it's not exactly out of the question to say that their origins had similar implications as Mohammed's context (where a monotheistic movement sprang up from the syncretised combination of 3 different pantheons, while having revolts against the older generation in a similar manner to Kuresh vs. Mohammed's followers). There's evidence of that in the Old Testament's war against Jericho, for exampe. But never the less, since the establishment accepted female & male equality in the pantheon, while the temporal laws didn't, it'd be safe to assume that the monotheists who revolted against all other idols would also declare that women are not equal, thus eliminating Allat, Ishtar & other idols

Anyways, I'm going to sleep too. Have a good night

So I'd have to ask despite the sexism of Roman civilization, why were Romans as well as Greeks so enthusiastically quickly chose Mary Mother of Jesus Christ to become the Goddess like figure of Christianity? While other converted places esp the Middle Est even Christian were not energetic about Mary prayers?



Why the Greco-Roman regions had to create a Goddess standin in contrast to Judaism and Islam?

Is there something unique about Greco-Roman culture for this to happen?

If Judaism and even Islam ever took over Ancient Rome, would they twist doctrines to create a new standin? LIke say Fatima daughter of MUhammad to be treated like a sacred virgin or Khadjiya his first life as a standin for Mother Goddess? Would a Romanized Judaism try to interpret Yahweh as having male and female forms?

Why did Blessed Holy Virgin Mother Mary get elevated into a borderline Goddess in ancient Greece and moreso Ancient Rome (esp the homeland of the Empire, the Italian Peninsula) after Christianity became the monopoly religion in throughout the Empire)? Why did other Christian regions esp the MidEast did not go to Venerate the Sacred Mother of God to nowhere close to the same level? Was there something unique in Europe esp in the modern location of current Italy lacking elsewhere in Africa and the rest of the world during early Abrahamic Religions esp before the Catholic Church canonized its core dogma in the Dark Ages?

4 Comments
2022/02/27
17:26 UTC

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The Cura myth from Fabulae.

i've found interest in my studies on the myth of Cura, i'm not sure what to make of it, i was wondering what you all thought. Here is the translation, from Hyginus's Fabulae. Tell me what you all think of this.

“When Cura was passing by a river, she saw clay, picked it up in thought and began to imagine and mould a man. She then called upon Jove and asked him to grant them spirit, he grants this readily, however when she wished to give this creation her own name, he forbade it, insisting that it carried his name. while they were arguing, Tellus arose and wanted it to have her name because she made her body available for it.

They took Saturn as judge; to whom Saturn seems to have judged alike: “You Jove, since you have given the spirit, take the soul after death; Tellus, since you gave the body, receive the body. Cura, since she first formed him, as long as he lives, Cura possesses him; but because of the name is his controversy, let him be called a man (Homo), because he seems to have been made from the ground (Humo)”

5 Comments
2022/02/25
10:43 UTC

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Pre-Hellenic Kingdom era Roman Paganism?

Hello!
Due to recent developments and issues, i've decided to try and see what a non-hellenic Roman religion would look like, mostly using Kingdom era religious practises. I wanted to know if anyone knew some questions or had resources that could help.

So my primary question is that in the list of minor flamens *Which is a kingdom era practice* there are two gods with unknown flamens, what are the theories about who these could be *I personally believe one is Fontus* also, what do you guys think of the Fabulae because it seems to me that through the story of Cura it seems to hold a non-promethean creation story for man.

Sorry if my questions are odd, but i decided to have a go at this.

10 Comments
2022/02/24
12:46 UTC

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Hello I’m a new pagan

I started out paganism with Norse paganism and I still worship the Norse gods and was wondering if I can include Roman gods to into my worship and if so is there any good YouTuber for Roman paganism

16 Comments
2022/02/21
14:48 UTC

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Ad deos caste adeunto.... but in practice?

Hi! I'm new here and I have a question about preparation for rituals.

I find that there is an incongruity that I cannot explain. I know that one of the fundamental conditions to prepare for a ritual is sexual abstinence, 24h before a ritual to the Gods, 12h before a ritual to the Lares. Another is to abstain from meat for a day prior the ritual. But I also know that the pater familias did a ritual every morning before the lararium. How is that possible in practice? Is there any rules that I'm not aware of? Did the pater familias really abstain a minimum of 12h before a ritual from sexual – and other kinds of 'impure' – acts and thoughts...every day?

Thanks!

4 Comments
2022/02/19
10:09 UTC

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Slavery in ancient Rome?

Hello, I'm a new Roman polytheist and genuinely have a couple of questions. Recently I've been studying the idea of cyclical ages, such as are known in india. I was reading a book I got recently called "the yugas" by David Steinmetz. It basically explains about a non-traditional, short-cycled ages/yugas. Interestingly, it seems to also coincide with the Greek and Roman idea of the "ages of man", is the Golden, bronze, and iron ages etc. However, I was a little worried and upset when the book seemed to take a very anti-ancient Rome approach. It started by saying that the ancient civilizations such as Greece and Rome were in the deepest and lowest part of the Kali Yuga, which is the worst age, whereas we are living in the Dwapara age, which is somewhat better than Kali Yuga. The opposite, from my point of the view, is the truth. The ancient civilizations weren't perfect by any means, but they had close relationship with the gods and thus were much closer to the divine than us. I'm coming at this from a more " society and human conciousness and intellect degresses over time, not progresses" way. Particularly, it talked about how ancient Rome was full of slavery and how slaves had no rights and were treated cruelly and often killed for sport. I am going to put a few except here for you to read. (Possible trigger warnings?)

"Not only profoundly ignorant, more often than not the people of Kali Yuga were considered property, either as outright slaves, or virtual slaves, such as serfs, who were tied to the land and subject to the lord of the land. Women were subject to their husbands and fathers. Human rights as we understand them today did not exist. Nowhere is this more apparent than in the Roman Empire. Rome was built on the backs and lives of slaves, usually drawn from peoples conquered by Roman armies. Though slavery still exists today hidden in dark corners of society, in Kali Yuga it was commonplace. It was also brutal. Owners had the power of life and death over their slaves. Perhaps most shocking to our sensibilities today, is the killing of slaves for entertainment in the Coliseum of Rome — a practice that continued for five centuries. The Emperor Trajan, in the second century AD, provided a spectacle during which 10,000 slaves were killed before the cheering crowd — in one day."

"If a Roman general felt that his troops were getting out of line and needing to be reined in, he could “decimate” them — have every tenth man beaten to death by his comrades as an object lesson to them all."

"Religious understanding during Kali Yuga was largely materially-oriented and propitiatory. People sacrificed things of value — animals, food,possessions — in order to bargain with the gods for good fortune. This reached its lowest manifestation with human sacrifice. Propitiating, bargaining, and bartering with the gods were a natural extension of how the common man thought about his world. He offered objects of earthy, material value to get things of earthy, material value in return. The more important the need, the greater the sacrifice required. It is not surprising, against the background of such belief, that one of the central tenets of the Catholic Church, formed in the heart of Kali Yuga, was that Christ died as a sacrifice for the sins of mankind."

"Side by side with the major religions existed hundreds of other religious practices. Considered pagan by orthodox religionists, most were bound up with worshipping physical representations of nature, nature spirits, and the gods of the land. Higher spiritual knowledge existed, but was hidden away and protected in convents and monasteries, temples and ashrams. Kali Yuga was a time when only a few were able to understand and use spiritual practices that were inwardly directed."

It also claims the owners sometimes had their slaves fight each other for entertainment.

I think you can probably see why reading this made me feel pretty confused and upset. What do you guys here think of it? I would definitely like some insight from other Roman polytheists. I'm thinking I might just outright stop reading.

9 Comments
2022/02/17
22:58 UTC

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Hi, I'm new to this

Hello, I'm now to Roman paganism and I was looking for some advice on good ways to incorporate religious practice into my daily life and maybe some good sources for practices

2 Comments
2022/02/15
16:44 UTC

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This is the new Reddit group for Nova Roma

Nova Roma has a new official Reddit group, you can join here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/NovaRoma/

8 Comments
2022/02/13
16:22 UTC

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Has anyone read this book? Would you recommend it?

9 Comments
2022/02/13
13:49 UTC

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Signet ring of the Godess Aequitas that I had custom made for me so I may always have my favorite Roman Godess with me.

8 Comments
2022/02/12
22:03 UTC

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Proper rituals

I'm not involved with religious practices a lot, but I'm deep into religious studies and so I ask out of curiosity: What are the proper "rituals", "acts of worship" if you may, and offerings for each Roman god? Or in other words: what are the proper ways to worship/contact each one of them?

Thanks in advance.

7 Comments
2022/02/10
15:14 UTC

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