/r/vulvodynia
A place for individuals (however they identify) with vulvodynia to share stories, give and receive advice and support. This subreddit is dedicated to providing information and being a supportive space, as well as raising awareness.
Please note that this subreddit is not a substitute for a proper diagnosis. If you are experiencing vulval pain, please see a doctor specialising in vulval conditions. You can find advice in the sidebar about diagnosis and treatment.
A place for people with vulvodynia to share stories, give and receive advice and support. It is a common condition affecting up to 16% of women, but remains poorly understood. This subreddit is dedicated to providing information and being a supportive space, as well as raising awareness.
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What is vulvodynia?
Vulvodynia: vulvar pain of at least three months' duration, without a clear identifiable cause, which may have potential associated factors. The location, intensity and constancy of pain varies between women. The vulva is the external part of female genitalia, see diagram here.
It can further be categorised as follows:
The two main subtypes of vulvodynia are localized vulvodynia (e.g. vestibulodynia, clitorodynia) or generalized vulvodynia (or mixed).
The pain can be provoked (e.g. with contact, such as use of tampons or during/after sex) or spontaneous (unprovoked) or mixed.
Its onset can be primary (always existed) or secondary (after a period of no pain).
The temporal pattern can be intermittent, persistent, constant, immediate, or delayed.
The most common types of vulvodynia are provoked vestibulodynia (PVD, previously known as Vulvar Vestibulitis Syndrome or VVS) and generalized vulvodynia. You can also have a mix of both.
More information on the definitions can be found on the NVA website. The NVA, ISSVD and IPPS consensus on the classification of vulvar pain provides the most up-to-date definition.
How is vulvodynia diagnosed?
If you think you might have vulvodynia, you need to be seen in order to be properly diagnosed. This doctor might be a gynaecologist, or a vulval dermatologist, or another specialist. There are many causes of vulvar pain and vulvodynia is a diagnosis based on exclusion of other causes, and the aim is to rule out possible causes such as infections, skin conditions, or malignancies.
For provoked pain, the doctor will typically do a cotton swab test (as shown in this diagram) applying gentle pressure to various vulvar sites.
Although sometimes there might be underlying issues such as pelvic floor dysfunction, hormonal deficiencies, or inflammation, often there is nothing to be seen. This doesn't mean that there is nothing wrong or that the pain is 'all in your head', but rather that it is the nerves themselves that are sending pain signals. Often women find that they have to see several specialists before they are diagnosed which can be frustrating. Please know that the pain is never in your head, and pain is never normal.
You might find it helpful to note down in advance of your appointment what your symptoms are, when do you notice the pain, and how it affects you. It is also helpful to ask whether they think it might be vulvodynia.
The Vulval Pain Society has produced a pre-clinic questionnaire as well as additional guides and leaflets to help you get the most out of your doctor's visit.
How is vulvodynia treated?
The treatment of vulvodynia depends on the subtype of it and any associated factors (such as hormonal issues, or pelvic floor dysfunction). It's not about necessarily finding a 'cure' but rather about managing the symptoms and most women do get better. Some information can be found on the NVA page on vulvodynia treatments
Broadly speaking, there are three main approaches that are often combined together:
Pain management and other medical treatments: this includes topical numbing cream (usually lidocaine), oral medication, typically either tricyclic antidepressants (amitriptyline/nortriptyline) or anticonvulsants (gabapentin/pregabalin). These might also be available in topical forms in some places. If the pain started after going on birth control, it may be worth going off the pill and using a topical oestrogen cream. Surgery known as a vestibulectomy is sometimes done where the pain is provoked, localised to the vulvar vestibule, and other treatments haven't worked.
Physical therapy/ physiotherapy: this treatment addresses the muscular components of the pain. Often women with vulvodynia have tight, overactive pelvic floor muscles and benefit from seeing a physical therapist who helps you learn to relax those muscles. Sometimes women have vaginismus (an involuntary tightening of the pelvic floor muscles) in addition to vulvodynia. An explanation of the differences in treatment can be found here. You might be given dilators that desensitise the nerves and stretch the muscles. You also might be given stretches to do to release various tight muscles around your pelvic floor. Some women also find that certain types of yoga helps as well. Some more information can be found here about physical therapy approaches to vulvodynia.
Psychological therapy: there is a strong mind-body connection in any chronic pain condition. This does not mean the pain is in your head! Rather, your brain is a powerful organ, and the more it perceives the pain as a threat, the more it amplifies the signals. Various psychological strategies can be used to help with this, such as mindfulness and CBT. Sex therapists may be useful if the pain is causing issues with intimacy. This video provides a detailed explanation of mind-body approaches to managing vulvodynia.
Self-help measures: There are also steps that you can take to make treatment more effective, such as avoiding products that can cause irritation and looking after the vulval skin. Many women find using ice packs helpful during a flare-up. The NVA has a list of self-help tips.
You might find these guides on coping with living with vulvodynia helpful:
This list is not exhaustive and there is no one-size-fits all approach, so you might have to try a number of treatments before you find something that helps you.
How can I find a specialist?
This depends on where you live. Typically you will have to see your doctor and ask for a referral to a specialist, and explain that you are suffering from vulval pain. A few resources below:
US/worldwide: The NVA provides a list of healthcare professionals both in the US as well as worldwide. You have to join as an NVA member, but the money goes towards funding the charity and research. It's mainly US-based but does maintain a register of specialists in other countries.
UK: The British Society for the Study of Vulval Disease provides a list of clinics that you can ask your GP to be referred to. The list is non-exhaustive and there might be others not listed, but this is a good starting point.
It's worth searching online for vulval clinics or doctors specialising in vulval conditions in your area. If you are not sure whether a doctor specialises in vulval pain you can always ask them, as not all doctors are experienced in managing vulvodynia.
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With permission from the wonderful mods of this subreddit, I wanted to bring attention to an upcoming event that people here may find useful.
It's Not Just You: Vulvar Pain and Intimacy
This is an interactive seminar (discussions and sharing experiences and general chiming in are encouraged, but by no means required) that focuses around ways to understand and manage vulvodynia. While there's a focus on intimacy, there will be more all-encompassing information there as well. The class is LGBTQIA+ inclusive, and information will be present to help people regardless of if they are cis, trans, gay, straight, or any combination of identities.
It's specifically focused on navigating intimacy with vulvar pain.
I will be doing an introduction piece about my own experience with vulvodynia, and how I was diagnosed. Then talking about other conditions that can cause pain, how they interact with vulvodynia or similar diagnosis, and who/how many people they effect.
How to identify where the pain is coming from (what part of the vulva).
And then:
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Does anyone flare worse after certain food, drinks, medications, herbs, or supplements or riding in a car (or any kind of vibration)?
So I’m not feeling a lot of burning a little discomfort does anyone get like a Zinj feeling? only last like a second or two it’s happening on my left side.
Why tf are jeans such a flare up cause it’s so annoying I just want to be able to wear cute outfits!!!!!!!!
Hi 🌸 My gynecologist & I think I may have Desquamative Inflammatory Vaginitis and she recently prescribed a compounded Estrogen 0.01% + Clindamycin 2% + Hydrocortisone 10% vaginal gel to be used nightly for 1 month and then reassess my symptoms.
The only issue is that she doesn't have experience treating patients with DIV at all. I'm theoretically her first.
So while she told me to use this gel every night for thirty days, she didn't actually tell me how much to use, and the pharmacy gave me their standard pump bottle with this intravaginal applicator. It's a set dose each time, but it seems like a lot, and I'm worried I'll be using too much each time.
Can anyone who has used this or a similar treatment chime in? I would really appreciate it 💕
My questions are:
I started estrogen 3x weekly, and am having confusing results.
On Monday, it feels relieving. Tuesday and Wednesday go by with ease. Wednesday night, I apply my estrogen and on Thursday morning I wake up with UTI sensations, burning and rawness back in full force. The discomfort lasts. Friday night, I apply a small amount and the burning lasts through the weekend.
Monday comes around again, and I feel relief and Monday-Wednesday go by without pain. This cycle has repeated for the three weeks I've been on E.
Does this sound like something that has happened to anyone else? Does it seem like allergy to the base? Or irritation from the Estradiol itself?
I'm confused. pls help!
Ik I posted yesterday. But holy fuck. Earlier in the month I managed to get a UTI and bacterial vaginosis so I was bleeding every now and then. It didn’t hurt too bad but definitely made my urethra irritated. I’m almost done with the bv antibiotics but it trigged a yeast infection cuz they do that. Luckily I had fluconezal that I asked for a couple months ago bc I was taking some antibiotics for a non vaginal infection. I feel some relief already bc it’s a strong pill that can treat you with just one or two. But after I finish the bv treatment tomorrow I need to do uti treatment for 14 days :/ which will likely trigger yeast again. And on top of that my period keeps delaying itself. Maybe bc of the infections? But it is and so I have really bad cramps rn. Why is ph balance thrown off so easily? And then my period just makes it more likely.
Im wondering if I can do internal work for pelvic floor muscles by myself since PF therapists don't exist in my country. If yes, can someone tell me what does the therapist do so I could try to replicate it.
i was on topical amitriptyline and am now starting oral amitriptyline. however, due to my mental health i’m also possibly going to be starting an ssri to treat my ocd. does anyone have any experience using both a tricyclic and an ssri at the same time? what was it like?
Hi! , so I’m not sure what’s wrong here. Form the very first time I’ve had sex till currently, I’ve always experienced pain when having a penis or a toy inserted. It’s not even the inside that hurts, it’s always the outside. I don’t have sex all the time with my boyfriend but every time we do and he tries to insert his penis, the entrance to my vagina hurts sooo bad. Once it gets past the entrance everything is perfectly fine, but if we take a 5min break and get bck to it I have to go through that excruciating pain all over again. Sometimes it just throws off the mood for me but I get it bck as we continue. I just dont kno wha the problem is. I thought maybe I just wander used to sex yet but this has happened with past partners and now him as well. It’s strictly just the entrance to my vagina that hurts so bad. Everything inside feels fine so I just don’t know. I don’t have a gyno I’m young under 20 but old enough to go seek one, I’ve never had anyone look at my vagina no doctors or anything. If I have to get this checked I will find a gynecologist but does this sound familiar to any of you?
Anyone have success with a reduction or elimination of oxalate from their diet? My doctor recommended it to me and as much as I love chocolate and Coke Zero I will give them up for the pain to end
hi all, so long story short i have struggled on & off with urinary and vaginal burning/issues for years. I think certain birth controls and meds made it flare up. Recently i had the most painful flare up after a pelvic infection and the pain just never went away. It hurt to pee, it hurt to walk, couldn’t have sex etc. i never thought my issue was my pelvic floor due to having uti issues and it seeming to be hormonal. I finally had enough and started seeing a pelvic floor PT. After the first session i felt relief. I have also had tailbone pain for years that doctors kept brushing off. It turns out my tailbone is hooked and there are issues there as well. Years of urinary issues, constipation, never put two & two together. The muscles down there are so tense and squeezing around my urethra and my tailbone is also pressing on muscles down there. It’s all connected and who knows what came first. The hypertonic pelvic floor or tailbone pain. But I’m just posting to say please please anyone struggling at LEAST just get evaluated by a pelvic floor PT!! It is life changing the relief im feeling and for the first time i have hope this will go away for good. I know there are other causes to vulvodynia but i for sure thought mine was hormonal and it was not.
So I’ve been dealing with discomfort down there for seven weeks now. Some days I just feel dry and irritated, which I think is related to Hormones. Every once in a while after I have sex, my left side close to the entrance burns. I had intercourse on Monday didn’t feel any discomfort really but then got my period and now my left side burns and I’m wondering if i actually have a tear and blood it’s just irritating it. any recommendations? I can’t see anything. I do have a steroid cream press trying to avoid that until I go to the doctor next week.
Last night I casually mentioned to my boyfriend that I always experience levels of pain and discomfort during sex and he was extremely taken aback that I've never mentioned it before. I thought what I experience was just normal and part and parcel of having sex and didn't want to make him feel bad for something I considered to be unavoidable. The pain is not significant enough that I don't enjoy sex or that it's impossible so I never really considered it to be an issue.
For as long as I can remember I feel a burning/stinging/tearing pain at the entrance of my vagina during and after sex. This can last for a day or two after intercourse where I experience swelling and occasionally small amounts of blood. The pain is worse the longer the period of time before we have sex again. Very occasionally I feel stinging and pinching sensations internally too though I think this is due to the position of my cervix during my cycle.
In the past few years the feeling of becoming aroused has become painful. It used to be extremely pleasurable but it now feels like a heavy, aching and raw pain across my whole vulva. This will subside once I start to have sex but is then replaced with a different pain/discomfort as mentioned above.
It feel ridiculous writing this down and not being fully conscious of it all before saying it aloud to my partner last night. As I am reading this it is clear that I need to address this.
Does this sound like vulvodynia? Where do I go from here?
Hi guys, I had this feeling for a while and then it stopped, but sometimes it comes back out of nowhere. Could this be due to me holding my pee for too long or not drinking enough water, any information would help, thanks
Hello - My 10 year old daughter has had on an off itching and discomfort around her vulva since she was a toddler. For the past 3 years however, it has been constant irritation where she becomes anxious if she does not have a cream of some sort with her at all times. I have taken her to a Gyno who told us she was fine, she did not test positive for yeast and we were sent home with notes to wash with water and use cotton underwear. Neither of which has done a thing. She now refuses to wear underwear says it makes everything worse. She also cannot keep using these OTC creams for relief. I've turned to reddit to try and find answers as Doctors are of no help. I am grateful to anyone who would take the time to answer with their thoughts of what this might be, seems similar to some other symptoms in this feed. Thank you so much!
I posted this in a discord server for Vulvodynia, but think others could relate.
I personally hate that we are seen as non sexual just bc of our condition. Not everyone wants to be celibate with it and I’ve been told to be bc I can’t enjoy the physical. I wish people would stop telling me what to do in that way. I’m an adult and i know my limits. I think not wanting sex due to Vulvodynia is valid as fuck. A lot genuinely can’t be on the receiving end, but I also hate when people act like there aren’t people with it that do want it anyway and act like it’s wrong to pursue it. We just need to be accommodated and have safe partners but. My sexuality didn’t stop (though it feels like it slowly is starting to) my body is just doing this against my will.
I was upset about having this condition but wanting sex and was told to learn to orgasm (I also have anorgasmia, and my clit being uncomfortable/numb doesn’t help) or just not have sex. Why can’t people with our pain just do things enjoyable to us sexually and leave it at that? Even if it’s not our genitalia being touched sex isn’t just a vulva/vagina being touched or about orgasms but the emotional experience. It’s about feeling fulfilled and comfortable
I'm 40 weeks pregnant and saw my midwife today. I've been having some white discharge and and more sensitivity. She said this can be normal at this stage in pregnancy but took a swab just in case it is thrush. In the meantime she advised using just some external thrush cream in case until we get the results back. Then if I do have it to use a gel pessary.
I'm concerned about using thrush cream if I don't have thrush. Will it irritate more? Are there other options that won't cause further discomfort? I'm worried about worsening my vulvodynia but also aware that I need to clear the infection if I do have one before giving birth.
Any advice?
my vulvodynia is genetic, so i have never not once been able to do things like penetrative intercourse or even use a tampon because it hurts too much. i went to several doctors before finally getting a diagnosis and working with various creams, steroid shots (the worst), and pelvic floor therapy (we had to kind of shop around for this, so even that has been a frustrating process). i’ve made some progress, but not a ton, so we had a vestibulectomy on the calendar but the recovery time had been dramatically downplayed to me. i’m a teacher, and so to take off so much time is a lot of work and it’s difficult to get approval for. i’m going to have to reschedule it to likely the summer time after summer school and spend that time recovering. i’m just so disheartened and frustrated that what i was hoping was finally going to at least give a big push to the finish line of dealing with this is going to have to be delayed by more than 6 months and take up my whole summer.
Hi everyone,
I've had provoked vulvodynia for 12-14 years. Have tried many things...
3 months ago, I started DHEA inserts nightly and topical lidocaine nightly.
Improvements:
No change in tissue plumpness at all. Still have what looks like vaginal atrophy shrinking, shriveled appearance on the vulva. Still painful.
TLDR questions:
how long did it take you to notice a difference with DHEA?
what other treatments do you use with it? I'm wondering if testosterone might be helpful at improving my desire for sex.
did you find estrogen inserts worked better?? I used to be on them but am sensitive to hormones (migraines) and wanted to see if this would help more.
Thanks so much! Appreciate any suggestions.
Still not sure what type of vestibulodynia I have. Went to multiple doctors, tried estrogen, compound creams, nortriptilyn, physical therapy… and the symptoms wouldn’t get better (pain during first seconds of penetration, burning sensation when wearing tight clothes, stinging pain when touching the area). + developed vaginismus because of the pain the first seconds of sex. Tested hormones and doc said everything is fine even though the pain fluctuates along with my cycle. So I just kinda gave up? Not sure what’s left to do and the weird thing is that when I don’t think about it too much, it hurts less or something? I do experience annoying shit like burning from the lube or stabbing pain in certain positions which is a shame because sex could be more exciting but i’m not complaining since i can have sex. Don’t know where this is going lol. More like a rant I guess? I feel like I’ve just accepted that this is my life and I’ll just have to live with it. Sucks though
Long story short. Had irritation back in may was given metro for bv, developed 2 white bitty patches lower labia minora but went away. Then came back a week later and covered entire inner labia minors both walls. Discharge was normal, swabbed negative for yeast. It’s September now seen gyno who said I have eczema even tho I don’t have it elsewhere. Used steroid for 2 weeks daily then every other week for a month. Came off steroid month ago I was using it in inner labia at the bottom. Week later inner labia and pee area burning very red and white dots inside. 2 weeks ago took a yeast tablet as I had white inner labia coating at the top of labia minora inside ( made a little difference) but now I have actual burning inside and it burns to wee. I don’t think I have eczema more So yeast that’s being left untreated which is giving me eczema down there. Has anyone experienced something like this and does it sound like I have a yeast infection now or am I going through steroid withdrawal. On Sunday the opening to my vagina felt irritated itchy and burny now the whole inside is. Pls help
Super scared right now because up until now, I’ve only ever had vulvar pain when attempting to insert a large dilator. Lately, I’ve encountered the pain while just walking around. It started about 2 months ago, where I would get a horrible stinging/burning sensation when standing or walking. Sometimes it gets so bad that I can’t continue to walk.
It will happen about once or twice every 2 weeks. I used to use estrogen cream as prescribed by my gyno for dilator help. After that, I tried a compounded cream with amitriptyline, baclofen, and gabapentin. The estrogen made no difference for months. The compounded cream made my vulva feel burning/itchy for hours after applying. I used it for 5 weeks as recommended until stopping it. Could this be a side effect from trying the cream?
I need help on how to make the pain stop. Should I restart the estrogen cream? My gyno is stubborn so I’m reluctant to return to her with this issue. I’m seeing a urogyno specialist in January- I’ve been waiting since June. I’m terrified that this is the start of something terrible and that it will continue to get worse. I never wear jeans or stiff clothes that could irritate the area. Most of my undies are cotton though I do still wear thongs.
The last of my stitches have dissolved/fallen out after my vestibulectomy just over a month ago, and I'm so excited to report that my vestibule doesn't seem to have any painful spots anymore! The reconstruction around what used to be my worst spot, the 5 to 7 o'clock region, looks a bit lopsided, but it doesn't hurt! I can't believe it! I'm also working my way through my set of 6 dilators as recommended by my doctor (just tried the 3rd one and it was tight but doable), and I'm going back to PT starting next week. Things are looking up!
For those "freed" of pain or discomfort from using medicine (I mean fully rid of it), what age did you start taking it? And how long does it last? How often do you use it? Is there moments you have to go off meds? While I'm not planning on it myself, I'm curious just in case I ever get worse. And for those still on the journey of recovering, is there relief or success in meds?
I’ve noticed that there’s not a lot of action on this page (disappointingly.) I just wanted to make people aware of another, more active resource. I’m in a few Facebook groups (not sure if I’m allowed to post names) but they’re vulvodynia support groups and very active. I know we love the anonymity of Reddit but if you’re looking for other supports online, I recommend trying that route as well! I’m hoping more people in those groups will come over here too. I figure the bigger the support community, the better, since a lot of this issue is a mystery, with unique aspects specific to each individual who has it. (Those group rules tend to follow the ones this group has, so nobody can say treatments will never work or certain ones only work, etc.)
Hi, I have been on amitriptylin for a while now on 50mg for managing pain. It’s been great, no issues.
I saw a mental health doctor for depression and he suggested upping it to 100mg for both pain and to treat my depression.
That was three weeks ago and as of three weeks ago I have noticed my pain come back. Thought it was maybe thrush so did the fluconazol, pessary and cream, no improvement.
Has anyone else been on this high dose for both and found it didn’t work? Is it all in my head? Please advice of any experienced. Thank you.
Hi Guys, I need some support. I’m planning to get pregnant in the next couple of years but I’m so afraid of birthing…
I have vulva pain , left side primarily sometimes. Doctor assumes that it’s due to my left hip Labrum tear, the surgeon advices surgery so that my symptoms can improve
I’m still contemplating about the surgery as my hip pain is barely noticeable
I’m pelvic floor is weak, I itch a lot especially during intercourse and then my clit feels aroused sometimes.
I’m not sure if I have to get the surgery before pregnancy and if a tight pelvic floor or all of this just means that natural vaginal birth is not an option
I guess I’m asking for your support and positive stories and suggestions on how to approach this correctly
I have a good PT, but she WILL NOT stop talking about trauma and the mind body connection as if I’ve never heard of it before. I am in somatic therapy and have done extensive research on trauma and the body, which she knows. I have shared with her and had my therapist share with her that it is not helpful for her to say things like “trauma can have a lot to do with pelvic floor problems and chronic pain in general, did you know that?” Over and over and over When I KNOW THAT and she knows I know that and I’ve told her that while I completely recognize her intentions are good, it’s exhausting to be told something I already know and am already working on with other licensed and experienced providers.
I just need her to focus on the PT PART!! Bc trying to be my psychotherapist too and ignoring mine and my psychotherapist’s pleas for her to stop is actively harming my care and my ability to relax in our sessions. I understand that she feels “she would be negligent not to tell me” but I already know and it feels like I’m being ignored as a real, full human being who has clearly expressed my needs and my existing knowledge and had them corroborated by professionals.
Does anyone have this issue?! At this point it feels like a disregard for consent for her to keep on saying this thing I and my therapist have begged her not to and explained clearly why. Even though she doesn’t have bad intentions, it reminds me of a lot of medical gaslighting I’ve experienced in which me expressing my needs is ignored and im treated as uninformed, stupid, or untrustworthy and my efforts to express my need for care is met with this claim that it’s in my head, and i have explained this to her. Ironically, this is giving me MORE medical trauma. Like if I asked a PT to stop pressing down hard on my leg or something without telling me and they just kept doing it, that wouldn’t be okay either, even if they did it for other patients m and they learned it in school. My last PT had no problem not lecturing me about this, but she moved away and good PTs are hard to find.