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Why doesn't China ever try the model of Barcelona's Eixample?

They build new cities and expand old ones in a centrally planned way all the time and yet they never try this model? How come?

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2024/11/09
12:37 UTC

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Minimum Density Requirements

Has anyone tinkered around with this idea or have examples of places that have done it? I know Massachusetts set a broad minimum density requirement for areas near mass transit, but I’m more thinking of minimum density requirements for new developments.

So, for example, a person wants to build a new commercial building in an area with minimum density requirements, they’d thus need to add that many residential units for the project to comply. This would be similar to how some places now have minimum and maximum parking requirements.

We’ve seen a few applications, which in my opinion are gross underutilizations of property, like where +/- 100 units could get built on the lot but they are building 10.

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2024/11/09
02:15 UTC

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What to do after Grenfell? Stop building these family-unfriendly tower blocks for a start | Simon Jenkins

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2024/11/08
20:05 UTC

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What software or computer programs are or will be most in demand for urban planners?

I’ve been in planning for 6 years but have got by without really needing to know anything other than Microsoft programs. What programs should I start learning or possibly get certifications in to stay relevant in the field? No answer is too obvious!

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2024/11/08
18:40 UTC

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What questions can l ask at a city council meeting to annoy a developer/stall variance request approval?

First time poster.

I live in a suburb of Cleveland across the street from a large parcel of land that was purchased pre-Covid by a developer. This Monday, there is a city Council meeting at which the issue of a variance request will be addressed. The developer is asking the city to approve the construction of eight single-family cluster homes on a street of single-family lots.

I have very little hope that this request will not be granted because I know the city would love tax dollars and I am generally cynical about the local government. However, several years ago they did reject my former neighbors request to construct a shed on his property that would have required several additional variances based on its size and location. I realize that's apples and oranges but who knows?

These are my concerns initially...

  1. How will the creek underground be ensured to make the culvert strong enough to support building and vehicles, and ensure flow does not back up into neighboring properties?

  2. How will development ensure proper testing and abatement, if needed, of any contaminated soil that may co rain lead or pesticides from when the land was used as a greenhouse?

  3. Will setbacks of buildings on the property conform to the same requirements as the rest of the homes on Porter?

  4. There is no precedent for a single-entrance/exit development on a two lane residential street near this location. How will safety be addressed for emergency vehicles to get in and out of the cluster homes?

  5. Are each of the cluster homes single family residences?

  6. How will the drain line be secured and maintained that is running underground across our yards to the creek for drainage of our rear yards and sump pump line drainage. Several of us have sump pump lines that connect underground to a line that connects to the creek underground across that property.

Unfortunately, this sub won't let me post a link to a picture, but I will try to add one somehow.

As I said, I'm convinced that greed will likely win in this situation, but it won't be without a fight.

I would love any suggestions, questions or other thoughts that could benefit us, the residents, in this endeavor.

Thank you.

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2024/11/07
20:59 UTC

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[History Question] Who/what was behind the expansion of auto infrastructure in 1950's Europe?

Hey all, I'm a game designer who's doing research for a game about the Dutch Mobility Protests of the 1970's, the ones that pushed (and arguably succeeded) for the restriction of auto infrastructure and the expansion of bicycle infrastructure. I've been finding a lot of sources about the tactics and movements on the pro-bicycle side, but I haven't been able to find any papers or documentation on who/what they were working against.

What I'm trying to understand is whether the rapid expansion of car and road infrastructure in the 1950's in Europe (and the Netherlands specifically) was caused by just market forces, or whether there was a concerted effort by any companies or groups to sway public officials and consumers to buy cars. And if there was a top-down effort to install cars as a dominant force, what sort of tactics they used.

It's probably that I don't know the right keywords to search for. If you happen to know any books or papers, please point me in that direction.

Thanks all

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2024/11/07
07:33 UTC

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Doing a geography project on urban planning

Im doing a research project, most likely slides with the topic being "Comparing different urban planning strategies in cities".
My 3 learning goals are

1st: how different street layouts impact traffic, transportation and development
2nd: the environmental and social impact of different urban design
3rd: how have historical, geographical and cultural factors influenced a city's design

My question is, what cities should I do? I want to talk about 3, not in extensive detail but a good amount. What are 3 cities that I should do? I was thinking about Barcelona, Tokyo, and another city, which I'm not sure which one. Maybe I should pick a badly designed city, but which one? Any recommendations?

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2024/11/07
00:31 UTC

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Prescient Passage from the end of "The Geography of Nowhere"

The following passage is ironic given the current mental state of James Kunstler (and his rabid support of Donald Trump), but it takes nothing away from the prescience of the passage. When people lament that the decline in American community is due to social media and media in general, they are missing the much more insididous effects of how we've constructed "communities" since WWII. Replace redistribution of property with mass deportation, and edit the point about oil to include "drill baby drill" on our own soil, and the passage is exactly descriptive of our current situation. Thoughts?

" I am concerned because I don't think we will be able to have much of a civilization in the future unless we build proper places in which to dwell. And it seems unlikely that we will move to do this anytime soon in a conscious and systematic way. Sooner or later, absolute necessity will compel us to give up our present habits, but by then the cost of rebuilding may be more than we can bear. In the meantime, the standard of living in the United States is apt to decline sharply, and as it does the probability of political trouble will rise. It may become too expensive for ever-broader classes of People to own and operate cars. Decent housing is already beyond the reach of many "average' families and individuals, and unless we change the rules of building, the situation will get worse.

Imagine the resentment this will breed. Some talented mob-master may arise among us, promising the American people that he can bring back the good old days--if only we have the guts to invade some region with deep oil reserves. Or maybe he will promise to confiscate the property of the dwindling "haves' for the benefit of the increasing "have-nots". "

9 Comments
2024/11/06
20:14 UTC

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For those employed as planners: How do you think the election results will impact planning in your community, your employer, and your employment status?

I’m sure the answers will vary based on MPO, municipal, etc, but as a practicing planner who anticipates a significant negative impact on all of the above I’m hoping this can be a therapeutic thread.

Apologies if this against the rules.

53 Comments
2024/11/06
07:04 UTC

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LA metro expansion?

I wanna hear people’s opinions on something I spend way too much time obsessing over: How do you think the LA metro expansions, in particular the D line, is going to change development the city? Is it gonna turn it into a mini New York or Chicago?

I love living in LA but I hate having to drive everywhere, friends living so far apart, and overall dealing with crazy drivers. Do we think the expansion is gonna have a domino effect that is gonna make the city more livable overall?

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2024/11/05
18:12 UTC

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Practicing (or formerly practicing) planners, is there anything you wish you knew about the field before going into it?

Here's my biggest one:

I love my urban planning career, but the greatest irony is that I love cities and city life (hence the profession) but I wish I knew how difficult it would be to get planning jobs in larger cities. I was originally a GIS analyst and worked at a couple engineering companies in larger cities before shifting to urban planning Since switching to urban planning all of the job offers I have ever received have been in suburbs or rural areas. Don't get me wrong, these jobs are great for experience and the local politics are always amusing. However my personal preference is to live in a large city again but it's been several years of applying and there's zero movement.

I wouldn't be as fulfilled as a GIS analyst but I'd certainly be making more money and also living in my preferred environment.

What about other practicing planners, anything you all wish you knew before jumping in?

39 Comments
2024/11/05
14:36 UTC

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Favorite certifications or trainings?

Looking for housing, land use, land development, development, real estate related courses or certification programs.

9 Comments
2024/11/05
13:36 UTC

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Why do so many metro areas think they are among the fastest growing metros in North America?

Is this a source of pride for the planners and leaders of metro areas?

56 Comments
2024/11/05
03:26 UTC

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My experience with the Congress for the New Urbanism Accreditation - a 2024-25 review

I just became Congress for the New Urbanism Accredited (CNU-A) despite all the neutral to negative feedback I’ve seen on here about it, and thought I’d share some thoughts on it for those who may be looking into it.

I want to immediately note that I realized from the start that CNU-A is often considered kind of a pointless accreditation outside a handful of strongly new urbanist firms. It does not have the level of legitimacy of AICP or even LEED and a majority of people do not know it exists. However, after earning my master’s in urban planning, I only worked as a planner for about a year before landing a job as a historian (my background and passion is primarily historic preservation), and so I don’t often deal with planning principles in my work now. I feel very secure and happy in my job, but historian positions of any kind are both rare and competitive, so if I ever lost or had to leave my current job I would likely consider going back to planning. Therefore, I saw this almost exclusively as a decent opportunity to freshen up on some planning concepts (albeit with a very narrow focus) with the bonus of getting something out of it that I can put on my resume.

To that end, I think it was a successful and worthwhile endeavor. Before the exam I took the University of Miami’s course on new urbanism, did all the readings, and spent maybe 10-15 hours a week studying planning through the lens of new urbanism for a couple months - a lot more time dedicated to studying any aspect of the profession than I would have otherwise and the most I had done since getting my master’s. However, I do have some major qualms with both the course, exam, and accreditation process.

For one, the optional course (titled The Principles and Practice of New Urbanism) is not much of a “course.” It’s really more of a study guide with some interactive features and a deadline to complete everything if you want the course certificate and to feel like you got your money’s worth. I don’t regret taking it because it kept me on track with actually reading and studying, but it’s truly unnecessary if you have the personality and drive to study independently without something to push you along. I work best with hard deadlines or I end up procrastinating and don’t do the work, so it was worth it to me, but you really could just buy a couple books and study on your own instead.

I won’t get too much into content, but I did find most of it interesting. It’s fairly surface-level urbanism themes much of the time with hyper-specific community examples used a lot, and to some extent you do need to “buy into” traditional neighborhood development/new urbanist/generally YIMBY ideas, but even if you disagree with certain aspects I still found the actual content engaging. I did not agree with everything taught but it was still interesting to read about, research further, and come to my own conclusions.

However, the course itself does have issues. Some of the content is outdated, and the course needs to be cleaned up. It links to YouTube videos that are like 17 years old, has spelling and grammar mistakes sprinkled throughout, and other than a single discussion post and quizzes at the end of each unit, absolutely nothing interactive. There are no assignments beyond the quizzes and you do each unit at your own pace. Therefore, it doesn’t feel like you’re taking a class, but rather having your hand held so you study the right things for the exam. For $300-335 (depending on if you’re a CNU member already or not), it needs some major attention and I wouldn’t recommend it. It feels like it was put together a decade ago and hasn’t been touched since beyond some indirect references to the pandemic.

As for the exam, I had issues there too. I was expecting the cost - $225 in 2024 - and the fact that you must be a CNU member, so you end up paying over $400 to become accredited and then nearly $200 annually going forward, plus continuing education, to maintain it. This is less than many accreditations, but a lot for something that few may recognize as worth much, if anything. If your employer is paying for it I’d say why not, but if you’re paying out of pocket like me, I would think hard about whether it’s much of a benefit to you.

Additionally, information surrounding the exam was ambiguous at best and downright nonexistent at worst. The CNU website is, in my opinion, often difficult to navigate and find information on, with information kind of scattershot between CNU and U of Miami with sometimes nothing linking the two. And when you do find the information, it often does not reflect reality. I saw in one place that the exam was 100 questions, you could change your answers as you went, submit it all at once, and that you’d only get one shot. Instead, when I opened it, it was 70 questions, your answers were locked in once you pressed next, and it gives you three attempts. This was not relayed to me anywhere that I can find or remember, and although it’s okay that the format has changed with time, the instructions leading up to it were clear as mud. I like that you can take it from home at any time with a few week window and that it’s not proctored, but otherwise, it’s kind of janky.

The exam itself is relatively easy, though I don’t think a lot of people could pass it blindly having a planning education but not studying for this exam specifically. Many questions were hyper specific to what were essentially footnotes in the main 450 page textbook, and I don’t think it did a great job fully encompassing all that you were supposedly expected to learn and know prior to taking it.

I got something like 10-12 wrong and only took it once. It was stated before the exam that you would not be given your actual score and instead CNU would review results and determine who passed over the following weeks (I’m assuming so they could curve it if there were oft-missed questions). I was immediately given my raw score though, so I don’t know what that was all about. Since a certain score was not what determined if you passed, though, I just kind of hoped/assumed that that was a good enough score and didn’t take it again despite apparently being allowed to. Luckily I was correct, as a month later, I got an email congratulating me for passing with a certificate and info on how to maintain it.

Overall, there are definitely issues with this accreditation and process, mainly when it comes to communication and transparency. That being said, I personally feel it was still worth it for me since my goal was just to learn a bit while getting some resume fodder. If you have similar goals or someone else is paying for it - or just want to rack up another accreditation for fun - I’d say go for it. If you’re paying for it yourself, or think it’s going to get you majorly ahead professionally, or anything I’ve noted here is a dealbreaker though, I’d reconsider and spend your energy, time, and money elsewhere. The course and exam both need some major retooling and I’m still not convinced my being accredited will ever help me beyond another resume line showing I’m trying to keep up with the profession - I guess time will tell.

I hope this is helpful to someone and I’m happy to answer any questions now or later for anyone reading this post in the future!

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2024/11/02
23:24 UTC

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How much do you draw as an Urban Planner

Title more or less speaks for itself, I'm a sophomore majoring in Urban Planning and Design rn, taking a drawing class and I'm just totally helpless, it's honestly astonishing how bad my drawing skills are. I'm just wondering as a planner how much you generally have to draw? whether that be in private practice or working in government, whether that be for municipal government or some sort of planning authority?

43 Comments
2024/11/02
18:29 UTC

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Colocating traffic with higher-density?

My city of residence has this clause in their "Neighborhood Traffic Management Program":

The General Plan ensures that arterials and collectors provide access to the higher intensity commercial and residential districts. It is intended that local streets in single-family districts be protected from the adverse impacts associated with traffic generated by either higher intensity development or changing travel patterns. 

I ask because I imagine that "higher intensity residential districts" also deserve to be protected from the adverse impacts of traffic--in fact they suffer more from localized pollution and traffic violence. I say this because I expect that residents of higher-density areas are less likely to be car-dependent & are more likely to be vulnerable road users.

While I see the merit in protecting single-family neighborhoods from heightened traffic, it seems to me like the policy indirectly limits the potential for mixed-use or higher-density developments, as the single-family areas remain "protected" at the expense of others.

Do you agree with my city's written policy? If not, how would you revise it?

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2024/11/01
23:23 UTC

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Looking for books about urban planning in Global South Cities

Do you know good book references (maybe available online, and if not, just the title) about urban planning in Global South Cities ?

4 Comments
2024/11/01
20:10 UTC

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Bi-Monthly Education and Career Advice Thread

This monthly recurring post will help concentrate common questions around career and education advice.

Goal:

To reduce the number of posts asking somewhat similar questions about Education or Career advice and to make the previous discussions more readily accessible.

12 Comments
2024/11/01
16:01 UTC

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I feel that the interesting case of Hong Kong urban planning needs to be studied.

Hong Kong has arguably one of the best transport network consisting of the MTR, bus lines, trams etc. And it is so dense that everywhere is walkable but urban planning is very car centric and road widening projects are constantly happening. Narrow sidewalks in six-lane arterial roads forcing pedestrians to cram on it and there are narrow expressways cutting through the city. There is little bike infrastructure also except for small sections of the city. Is there a particular reason for this?

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2024/11/01
13:12 UTC

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Monthly r/UrbanPlanning Open Thread

Please use this thread for memes and other types of shitposting not normally allowed on the sub. This thread will be moderated minimally; have at it.

Feel free to also post about what you're up to lately, questions that don't warrant a full thread, advice, etc. Really anything goes.

Note: these threads will be replaced monthly.

3 Comments
2024/11/01
13:01 UTC

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Is there a name for places intentionally but unofficially left for agents of chaos?

I heard someone talking about this recently and maybe there’s a name for it. Maybe it’s not even a thing.

In my city, there’s an abandoned bridge that teenagers go to to hang out and graffiti. It’s kind of the unofficial spot to go and feel a little rebellious.

In Miami there‘a this abandoned stadium where teenagers also go to to hang out and feel cool.

The person I heard talking about this also said it was a way to kind of contain chaos within an unofficial outlet. The idea is that if there’s a space people can go to to be a little reckless, they’ll be less likely to invoke chaos within actual society.

The interesting thing I guess is that it can’t actually be known and open that that’s what they’re there for because then it stops being cool and its purpose is lost.

Is this really part of city planning and is there a name for it? Anywhere I can read more? Thanks :)

57 Comments
2024/11/01
12:42 UTC

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Rooftop Mechanical in Historic District

Hello All,

I am working through a land use decision that includes the rehabilitation of a historic brick building. The use proposed will require significant rooftop mechanical which will need to have some level of screening. Does anyone have any examples or thoughts on what makes the best screening in such a situation or the address to a building that has google drop down street view?

Thank you!

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2024/10/31
23:10 UTC

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