This is kind of a dumb post. Idk about anyone else, but whenever I rewatch the show, I only get as far as S4-S5. I think I’ve seen the first three seasons twenty times over, but I’ve only watched the later seasons once or twice.

I bring this up because I keep seeing people talk about Bonenzo, and I’m realizing I can’t really remember any of their scenes together. My awareness of Enzo only stretches to him being friends with Damon and close with Lily. I know Stefan kills him… can’t remember why. It throws me, cause I can recite lines from S1-S3 word for word, but I’d have to pull up a wiki article for season 8.

Does anyone else have stuff they’ve completely forgotten about?

I would definitely say sheriff Forbes iguess because she was almost the only one who died of “natural causes” it’s could be so real.

I don’t believe Ian said that he would leave the show if they killed off kat for good 🤷🏽‍♀️. Now if it is true can someone point me to the site of where he says it?.

I loved it. I have watched the whole show with a few breaks in between a couple of seasons. But I watched the whole last series over the past few days. As it got to 3 episodes before the end I did wonder if it would end badly as it seemed like everything was going wrong and that they would end it with everyone just dying in a ball of fire.

I couldn't have been more wrong...well...nearly😂

I really loved the final episode. I have never really been sad at a TV show or film ever. I watched all the episodes of Lucifer and was sad when it ended but not because of the characters ending just because either enjoyed it. But with this show, I was moved by all the characters endings. I loved how they explained about their lives after that night but then they all kinda ended with them going to heaven (or whatever) and finding peace. Ot was really lovely.

I have one question though. When elena and Damon were holding hands, were they in heaven? Or did they then find peace and go to their separate heavens, if so surely they would be sad then? That might be a stupid question if it is then my bad.

Also does anyone have a show to watch now I've finished this one? 😭😭

First of all, the content of this post doesn't mean that you shouldn't ship what you ship. This is a meant to be a criticism and I wish for respectful discussions.

A few days ago I was looking for Stelena's special moments and parallels to post, and I got to this one:

"He came to my life at a time when I needed someone and I fell for him instantly. No matter what I feel for you, I never unfell for him."

On one hand, it's obviously meant to be romantic. It's supposed to give the message that Elena's love for Stefan is ultimate.

On the other hand, it heavily stings of a manipulated, traumatised teenage girl that is extremely needy and dependent on her partner.

Why? Let's review how Stelena met.

Stefan found Elena after he was trying to save a family that had an unfortunate accident and with her face looking exactly like Katherine's, he was like "wtf😧" and needed to know why. That's why he tried to learn anything about her that he could.

But what I find problematic about this situation, isn't the stalking part, but after, when he decides to insert himself in her life.

He decides to meet her because he has grown to like her over these few months, perhaps he relates to her, perhaps he admires her, perhaps he's obsessed with her because he is the one that saved her and it makes him feel human in a way.

So we can't say that Stefan had any bad intention behind his actions. He just didn't have the chance to communicate with her in the right ways.

But it also come from selfishness. He knows how sensitive he is to human blood, he knows that his existence might bring danger into her life, but he ignores all the errors because "I just have to know her."

Now let's take a look at Elena:

This girl has lost her parents just four months ago, and is still dealing with grief and survival guilt.

So when she meets Stefan, someone she has a lot in common with, (Wrting diaries, losing their parents, reading books, struggling to join other groups and making new friends) of course she'll like him.

But Elena, at this point, is still grieving, and Stefan knows that.

So the kind and considerate guy that he is, he understands her and asks about it in the party. He sees her sadness and doesn't buy her act. He comforts her in the way that she needs, even if she pretends like she's stronger than that.

Until now, the writers have managed to make a connection that makes sense and is based on their hope to find happiness with each other's presence.

But it's also a trauma bond, formed by Elena's vulnerability and Stefan being the "someone that she needed" at that time.

"After the accident, I kinda felt like I didn't know how to live anymore. Like I didn't want to. But being with Stefan... somehow I figured it out."

In reality, this girl needed therapy and the support of her friends and family to overcome her grieving. Her hope to live shouldn't depend on Stefan. He shouldn't have that kind of emotional power over her, no matter how romantic it sounds.

Again, none of this means that we can't enjoy this ship. This doesn't diminish the devotion or love that Stelena had, it is a vampire show after all. But it doesn't excuse or erase the problematic aspects of it.

Thank you for reading this post. I'd like to hear your thoughts as well.

For anyone wondering why I made this post:

1: I didn't want to sound fake so I labeled this as criticism, but really, I wouldn't have enjoyed this ship if they were absolutely healthy in a vampire show. But because of how glorified Stelena's relationship is, I felt the need to share my perspective as well.

2: There are some individuals in Stelena's fandom, with the mindset that "Because my ship is healthier than toxic dullena, I'm a better person. Anyone that likes that toxic ship needs mental help or ThErApY."

Nothing makes anyone morally or mentally better than anyone in real life because of their preference in TV shows. If you want to limit your interests to your morals that's fine, but insulting other shippers, looking down at them and calling them toxic doesn't make you any better.

Rose was out and it wasn't even close lol

This is going to be my favorite round

As always have fun and enjoy

PICK THE WINNER BIGGEST HEARTBREAKER DEATH SCENE‼️‼️‼️😁😁😁😁😁😁📢📢📢📢📢📢

p.s got the name heartbreaker from someone im the comments last post and i love the name keep up the great commentary

There is literally no real proof that Matt Donovan actor dated Julie Plec, literally no real proof, but is still believed as a true fact

Like i get you don’t like Matt, but leave Zach out of it, he didn’t do anything wrong, i see literally on all socials people hating on him, and saying bad things about him

like it isn’t even have a real proof, Zach is a real person, you shouldn’t hate him from a false rumore

False rumore can ruin someone life or job life so don’t do it, and DON’T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU SEE ON THE INTERNET

this is just one of the case of false rumore, there are many more rumours that people keep believing are true 💀

like please don’t believe anything you see on the internet without real proof

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Some time ago I watched the whole show again, and one thing I've realized is that it doesn't make any sense that Bonnie couldn't use magic while being the anchor. Here's why.

We know that witches can take power from the spirits in the Other Side, also that the ghosts there are capable of doing magic to interfere in the realm of the living, we've seen it on TVD and TO. So how on Earth was Bonnie uncapable of performing spells as the anchor? She was a ghost witch, turned to the anchor, at that moment in the show Bonnie should have been shown at her most powerful self, being capable to control the Other Side and take power from all the dead supernaturals in there (I bet souls are incredible power batteries). Considering all of that she should have been just that, and should have defeated all the Travelers, Markos, and stopped the colapse of the Other Side.

Bonnie Bennett image

I’m so mad abt the sleeping spell Kai did on Elena I js finished S6 and I’m not gonna watch 7 or 8 since the main character literally isn’t there😭What was the point of that leave Elena alone,like how do you continue a show after killing off the main character 😣

why do all the vampires complain about being a vampire?

i mean, if that were me, i’d get me a daylight ring, turn my emotions off & live my goddamn life & experience life in the best way i can

i wouldn’t need to work, i could compel people i wouldn’t need a car, i can use my speed, i’d make friends around the world, break a bunch of rules, drink from blood bags maybe get some fresh blood here & there, endless road trips, cause havoc in small towns & leave, make friends along the way etc.

p.s. i’m female… I WOULD BE ABLE TO WALK ALONE AT NIGHT

i understand it’s a show & there has to be a plot for the show but most of the vamps hate being a vampire & don’t bother looking for any positive sides to it

No, not as a couple but I can see them having a fun messy dynamic throughout season 5 , both of them are in a very low point stefan surviving a tramatic event and suffering from PTSD because of it and Katherine being messy and suicidal due to her growing old, they only have each other to relate to.

Katherine could help stefan get over his tramatic event by using her experience to get over her's and stefan could help Katherine accept her fate , take care of her loose ends and close a big chapter of his life and get over his feelings for her

I mean it's better than the one we got

I was watching Vampire Diaries (again) and I was thinking about how in Buffy a spell can be performed to revoke a vampires invitation into a home and that would have been an interesting thing to add into the show, instead of changing home owners. And let's face it. Bonnie could absolutely do that.

So now I'm wondering what vampire lore you would have added/changed?

The whole point of needing to be invited in relies on consent (originating from the idea that people unknowingly invite their own deaths/ own miseries by mistaking it for something else). If a vampire can just compel the owner to let them in, it’s not even a weakness and becomes a meaningless restriction. Vampires could then enter all houses where owners aren’t on vervain. It removes the idea of a “safe zone” for humans at night. Does it bother anyone else?

It's amazing how Paul was able to be all these different characters and managed to distinguish them so well.

Paul Wesley

• Stefan Salvatore (and also Stefan without his humanity)
• Silas
• Tom Avery
• Ambrose

Who's next?

Damon and rose definitely liked eachother. And yeah he loved Elena. But do you guys think if she didn’t die would they have tried to be more than friends? I mean idk what Damon meant when they were talking on his couch he said “just friends? Are you sure you can do that?” Clearly he had some kind is feelings for her. And she said “I don’t love men who love other women” which btw (period) but what do you guys think? I really think they would have dated. Idk if forever but they would have for sure.

So I'm doing a (another) rematch of the vampire diaries and I'm again just seeing characters who I think were killed off way too soon!

My top ones are lexi, shelagh Bennett and fin Mickelson. Just seems we got soo little of them!

What about you guys? 🙂

So first off, Klaus doesn't have any of his supernatural abilities in Alarics body except for that he can compel Katherine?? And then he lets Elena go free with all the supernatural people surrounding her thinking they wouldn't make a plan to save her during the ritual and also if something as easy as feeding her vampire blood could ruin the ritual then why was Klaus so oblivious to them thinking to do this? And why did he choose Jenna out of everyone he could turn into a vampire? Elena was cooperative and he still disrespects her by using Jenna and turning her in the sacrifice instead of using either Katherine or Damon and this brings my to my BIGGEST question, why didn't he heal Damon with his blood when he saw the werewolf bite since it would've healed him and then allowed him to be used? I guess maybe so Katherine wouldn't know that theres a cure to a werewolf bite but first of all, he doesn't intend for her to go free so it wouldn't matter and second, he intends to torture her over the course of 250 years and eventually kill her so that information would be rendered useless with her anyways. Also why did he stay in Alaric's apartment through this whole process and let Alaric go? I have so many questions for this season 😭

Like what if Katherine never told Damon that night that she never loved him. Like would they be together ? Would he still fall in love with Elena ? I never see people talking about this and shit I’m just curious …what y’all think??

it’s been a while since i watched the show but i remember s5 when silas was starting to be like the main villain and there’s this one scene where he’s talking to damon (i think?) about how he needs blood to function but i thought he wasn’t a vampire? and if he’s the first immortal like the show says, why would he need blood to function properly can’t he just be like a witch but like live forever? idk i never got it

edit: there’s also a scene in s4 when katherine is trying to revive silas in the tomb and she uses some blood to revive him, but like why?

Jo was eliminated with 21 votes, it was a close one because rose had 19

Im so excited it's time for the top 3, and i love this top 3!!!!!!

Who will be eliminated next 🤔🤔,

Oh btw i just want to say that liz's death scene was the only scene that made it this far that wasn't killed, she died from natural causes, and idk abt you but that says a lot imo

If anybody cares this round is ez for me lol

What’s your fave Damon moment that made you laugh? The scene where he holds Lilly’s lingerie with a sword was hilarious!

Random something I was thinking about 😂

Caroline is definitely extroverted 😅 I think that Stefan and Elijah are introverted. Damon and Klaus are a mix of both depending if they like the person or not. Elena is more introverted and Bonnie is extroverted when it comes to Caroline and Elena. No clue what Matt, Jeremy and Tyler are…ambivert? Enzo seems extroverted, he just has no friends 😭😂. Kai and Silas are extroverted 🤣

I’m re-watching season two. Elena tried to sacrifice herself so much up to the point where she actually does during the sacrifice ritual. People will never make me hate her😭. She has annoying moments, but they literally all do.

Mystic Falls Gang literally tell her she’s suicidal for trying to protect them.

Since there has been talk about the books again, it reminded me of something I wondered about. Even though the show ended up being different and strayed farther and farther away from the books to the point that they weren't even on the same continent anymore, who in the show did and didn't read them?

I know Kevin at least read the first four since he talked about it when TVD was getting adapted.

Julie supposedly read them because she was the one who pushed Kevin to as well but she later admitted that she only read half of the first book.

Nina didn't because Julie outright told her not to because TV Elena was different from Book Elena.

I heard that Ian apparently read them.

I assumed Joseph didn't but apparently he did read them all at the time.

So does anyone else know who did or didn't read the books? Also corrections are completely welcome.