Hello everyone :) I’m on my journey to tapering down my daily dose. I used to take cca 10 grams/day for like six ys and now I’m stucked at 6. It would be very important to stop completely taking kratom, because in the end of december i’m gonna fly to a country where it’s totally prohibited and i don’t want to end up in some jail and in the other hand i’m just really sick and tired of being dependent on it. So I have like 2-3 weeks to break the habit.

My tapering routine was reducing the dose with 1 grams per every 5 days. But taking less than 5 is really challenging me. I found out that maybe taking something similar (like green tea powder in capsules idk) might be helpful but i need some reassurance and support.

Could you please give me some advice how to continue with quitting? I would be very grateful.

Thanks in advance ❤️

This was an interesting night. I work a security detail at multiple parking garages for the City. My intention was to taper this week so I bought flavored kratom packets well beneath my regular dose. But the last three days I've been taking nearly double what I intended.

After 8 pm I pulled into the city owned garage which is vacant this time a night and a homeless guy with a backpack was sitting on the first level stairs. I politely asked him to leave and he said he was just about to and motioned to get up. I try not to be an asshole so I didn't wait around to make sure, I try to give people some respect and dignity. After I patroled the rest of the garage I circled back down -about ten minutes is all it took- and he was sprawled out, on his back laying on the stairs with his head cocked back and his eyes rolled back and a straw and lighter still in his hand and burnt foil on the ground

Ill spare the details, but a call to 911 and 4mg of Narcan and 5 minutes later he stood up and took of running when the ambulance pulled up.

I sort of saw my reflection in this guy staring back at me. I was thinking what a risk this guy is taking, just on a different level but we're one and the same in a lot of ways.

But what a risk I've been taking, always quitting, always going back, 😔 going nowhere ... Christmas will be 3 years addicted to this sludge. 30-40 Gpd. Gotta stop, I won't take this into 2025

Okay guys… time to be honest. For the past 5-6 months I’ve been freaking BINGEING on 7-hydroxy shots and tabs like nonstop. The amount of money I’ve burnt through is scarrrryyy. I knew what I was doing the whole time… just didn’t want to stop.. yk life is hard. For about the last month it’s been awful and intense for pretty much no feeling. Like over 10 tabs a day and 80 dollars on a good day maybe 170 on a rough one… yea ik.

About a week ago my car started acting up… and I’ve been spending all my money and then some… I need a new transmission/new car.

So this is my last night with my beloved. I have no choice.. I’ve bought some powder to hopefully help. Saving half a tab bc anymore than that and I won’t actually quit/im unable to taper. I know this is all on me but how bad are these next days going to be. I don’t have work til Wednesday (it’s Saturday night) and I’ve gotta go to class on Tuesday.

Any advice? Can I knock myself out with Benadryl for 3 days? Tbh I barely know what withdrawals gonna feel like cus I haven’t been a day without it in a minute.. I might have to buy an MIT shot if I absolutely need something.. Will vodka maybe help ? Imodium? Or maybe it won’t even be that bad I’ll just go to the gym and sweat it out ? Please help I’m honestly in a very dark place already😃. Ik it’s all my fault but please tell me there is hope.

Alright so now that I’m through the thick of it, I figured I’d write up a quick post here for anyone scouring the archives of this sub for someone with a similar situation to them.

Had a 4.5 year 40-60gpd habit. Got tired of having to lug around powder everywhere I went and having to deal with sneakily taking a dose while out with people who aren’t aware of kratom.

My dosing schedule was typically 6 grams in the morning, 3 hours later I’d take another 6 grams, rinse/repeat until I fell asleep. Some days I’d up my dose if the 6g wasn’t hitting right but eventually I stopped feeling anything but baseline altogether.

As for tapering I reduced my dose by 1g every 3 days. This was a very fast taper and not comfortable in the slightest - it was like a prolonged soft CT. I say “soft” CT because I got all the hallmark symptoms of withdrawal but they were fairly manageable. I felt cold and was shivering with cold sweats everyday, nausea/reduced appetite (but no vomiting), RLS, insomnia and some pretty gnarly depression. Sounds pretty bad writing it out like this but I was able to deal with all that while going to the office M-F 8 am to 6 pm.

I got down to 3g per day (broken down into 1g in the morning, 1g in the afternoon and 1g before bed) and stayed there until I felt normal again and the symptoms somewhat subsided.

Took a week off work to CT. First day I felt great and convinced myself it wasn’t gonna be that bad. Day 2-3 were pretty hellish - felt like a really horrible flu with the shits and some insane body load. I couldn’t even walk up the stairs without getting completely winded. Then the pain set in - every muscle in my body ached. Advil helped with that though and I was dosing emergen-c packs daily since I couldn’t afford lyposomal vitamin c LOL I honestly don’t even know if that made a difference but I was trying to do anything I could tbh.

Insomnia was horrendous but I took Benadryl the first week which knocked me tf out. I would wake up after about 4-5 hours unable to get back to sleep but at least I was sleeping.

After day 7 I started feeling okay. Still had diarrhea, lethargy and anxiety/depression but I didn’t feel as bad as those first 4 days.

Day 11 is when the cough started. It was a dry cough that sounded like I was diseased. Didn’t feel terrible but it was annoying. My throat was extremely itchy and I felt the need to cough every 5 minutes. I looked all over this subreddit to find any mention of it but only found a couple people mention it offhand. I tested for covid which was negative, I didn’t have any other symptoms besides the RLS and occasional diarrhea so I was dumbfounded.

Decided to do some research and found that people in SE Asia use Kratom as a cough suppressant. Some people posited that it could be my lungs coming off of taking a cough suppressant for so long so they were trying to hack all the crap out of me. Is that true? No idea, but all I knew was that I wasn’t sick with some virus or cold and I’m not a smoker so all signs pointed to it being another nasty side effect of WD.

The cough has somewhat subsided, I still get random throat itch attacks but it’s nowhere near as bad as it was when it started on day 11.

Now on day 27, my biggest issue is suppressing the urge to take a dose. It’s crazy how strong the urge to dose after it’s been almost a month. I still have some in the house but try to remind myself that it’s not worth having to go through this BS again.

Wanted to share my experience in case anyone is panicking and trying to find the last push to get off of it altogether. It’s not easy and it’ll suck a lot but it is so freeing to not have to be shackled to powder all day long and having it be the biggest concern of the day.

Sorry for the long read but hopefully it helps someone in the future.

Stay safe out there, friends.

Okay this is pretty ironic to me now considering we all were comvinced Kratom was helping our addiction weather it did at first or not, I am now involved in this community and want to quit the extracts, belive me the powder is slowly destroying your kidneys as they slowly dehydrate from the inside out, also it isint really studied long-term or dea approved, we are again the lab rats to poisonous head shops knock off drugs. Hoping my kidney stones dissolved, litterly gotta take Kratom to fight withdrawal but taking it is putting me in so much pain, litterly a slave to this shit, if you don't get off now this demon will pull you to a new layer of hell each time, and dont full yourself cause you don't get wds, the half life is strange and its not exactly an opioid which in my opinion is scary and worse considerding I had delusions and phycosis day 3 wds. The fevee dream video game hell of quitting this is powerful and spiritual, I really been scared of pain but it gets to a point where you just don't want to die, signing myself into detox and I don't care what my family thinks, setting things in place, they need me healthy and alive, so in time everything will come to place, I was scrolling on Reddit 3 years ago getting high and denied that issues would fall upon me, note i am only 18 and started since I was 13. This has been my life for 5 years. 5 years. 5 years. Oh my god

Anxiety gone Agitation gone Procrastination gone Dark circles gone Constipation gone Poor diet gone Worry gone

Happiness✅ Money ✅ Better ✅ Focus ✅ Drive ✅ Motivation✅

Earlier today I posted that I had decided I took my last dose. My post got taken down but whatever. Doesn’t really matter. I was really positive I was done. I made it 5 hours and failed. I’m deeply ashamed. No one has any idea what’s going on with me. I should be honest but I can’t bring myself to be.

I had tapered to 20gpd from 70+, and messed up my taper. No idea how much I was even taking the last week and a half. Maybe 30, maybe 40? Who knows I wasn’t counting. I had been messing with 7oh too after a minor surgery almost 2 weeks ago. Luckily I hadn’t gotten very far with it and I’m not physically dependent on it, but I certainly am on regular kratom. I felt the WD coming on, the anxiety, and I took a dose. I’m going to go back to tapering. I have a toddler. I live a really normal and blessed life. No one would have any idea about my addictions. I need to be present and ok for my kiddo.

I had planned to just take kratom for the rest of my life, but now it’s become apparent I need to stop. I’ve been in AA. I know what I need to do, it’s just tough. I didn’t understand at some point there’s diminishing returns with kratom, and I need to get back to baseline. I’m not resentful at the plant, I knew with my history I’d certainly become dependent on it.

Idk what the purpose of this post is. I guess I just want to be honest somewhere. I don’t know where to start my taper but tomorrow I’ll see if I can go back to 20 or less. I’m really upset with myself for giving up so soon, withdrawal comes on fast for me because I’m used to very frequent dosing (I usually just sip on it all day.) I’ve been through much worse and more dangerous withdrawal before, so I’m really disappointed in myself that I couldn’t even make it one day, or even half a day. Even with all the helper meds and supplements at my disposal, I just hate feeling withdrawal at all. I need to stabilize. Sorry for the long rant, I just need to admit it somewhere.

I’m so ready to be free of this nasty green sludge, I keep telling myself I’m going to quit and then go back again. I’ve used around 15 gpd for the last 6-7 months or so, so my dose isn’t that high. I’m hopeful WD symptoms won’t be that bad.

Regardless I’m QUITTING I just need some tips and encouragement from you guys.

What should I expect? Will withdrawal symptoms be bad at this dose? I just wanna move on and be proud of myself.

Thanks

Today is day 4 of being 100% kratom free. I tapered down from 15ml extract per day and 10-28gpd to just .5ml extract only after 2 weeks.

I have felt somewhat useless these last 4 days during Thanksgiving and feel awful about it. It’s like I don’t know what to do with myself. I find myself quietly sitting on the couch while everyone else is interacting with one another.

I have been counting calories for the last 9 days trying to give my body a better chance at rebounding from being on kratom for 5 years. I recently quit smoking of 10+ years about 45 days ago. Keeping my fluid intake up and hitting the sauna hard. I just feel like I’m fading into the background and seems like I am missing something. Like my body just can’t be sober.

I read everyone’s positive messages and it keeps me going. Here is to day 5!

Just broke 2 weeks! So happy about the freedom. I’m at a show in Charlottesville VA, kickin it in the green room with my bestie.

Life is good!

I've only been on it for 5 weeks and the last two weeks l've been at probably 50 gpd. Little capsules that are .6 g each. It's a ridiculous incline, I know. Yesterday I felt wds for the first time and it scared the shit out of me. It was the first time I had gone more than 4 hours without a dose. The leg pain was insane. Started to try and taper today, monitoring how much and when I take it. I'll probably cap out at 40 g for today and hoping to keep it under 35 tomorrow. Does anybody have any feedback or advice for me please? My daily intake is ridiculous, but I'm hoping the short period of time (5 weeks) has something in my favor. But after feeling what I felt yesterday I'm incredibly scared. Thank you everybody

Just realized I hit 60 days clean a few days ago. Was doing like 2 or 3 soma extract shots everyday for over a year. I don't even think about it anymore.

As the title says, I find myself at rock bottom because of Kratom. I’m an alcoholic in AA, and I had 2.5 years of good recovery before I introduced kratom into my life. It started innocuously, trying to get better sleep and help with some breakthrough anxiety. I betrayed the trust of those I love most, and betrayed my own recovery. Please, give me your experience, strength, and hope 😭😭😭

I am usually taking 20 to 25 grams daily. Down to about 9 to 12 past 2 days. Got mud butt. Tired. Hoping I can taper more in a day or so. I am going to supplement Black Seed Oil to help. Going a step down tomorrow and go for 6 grams.

Going to keep this short as I have a day 30 post planned with my entire 3 years story.

Just wanted to let the quitK community know today I woke up in a total PAWS hellscape shit hole.

I’m typing this at the gym now after a 4mi run and I can see color again. I’m listening to incubus in the locker room as I prep to jump in the pool for a bit before going home.

“So don’t let the world bring you down

Not everyone here is that fucked up and cold

Remember why you came, and while you’re alive

Experience the warmth before you grow old”

We were spoiled by getting the warmth with a shit sludge in a nasty shaker bottle. Idk about you but I never felt good, I always felt ok. Never felt bad until I did and I was spewing green liquid in the toilet promising to stop in the morning.

In the last 28 days I felt the despair of life but moments like this I see my old self and remember the warmth, it’s just out there for us to get it.

Go run feel better good luck everyone I love you.

We can do this together one day at a time.

Day 30 CT. Well my friends today is the last day of November. We made it through, it’s had its ups and downs but overall things are much better than they were being on that deceitful poison. I really don’t know what to say but I’m just very grateful to be here. Every single one of you can conquer this, just take it one day at a time. It’s the little wins that build momentum to success. Win your morning, win your day, win your life.

The things that got me through this month were a positive mindset, family, exercise , breath work, contrast showers, reading, writing, music, guitar, working and just trying to stay productive overall, but most importantly is trying to grow closer to God everyday, To surrender myself to the lord and let his will be done. Don’t under estimate the power of prayer. Be persistent. I’m proud of every single one of you just the fact that you’re in this community shows you are trying to better yourself. Keep up the good work friends.

Now let’s carry this momentum into DON’T DOSE DECEMBER. I won’t be posting daily anymore, it will be either weekly or bi weekly. Stay strong my friends you are beating this and remember this too shall pass. God bless you all.

“In God I have put my trust; I will not be afraid.” “Be still and know that I am God”

So far I’m 8 days into kratom withdrawal. I just wanted to ask, has anyone else experienced moderate/severe fatigue? When it first started I was having some pretty bad RLS/insomnia so that explained why I’m tired, but now I’ve been able to get around 6-7 hours of sleep a night if I take a bath first, but around halfway through the day I feel like I’m going to pass out.

Today is my last day ever taking Kratom. I’m starting fresh Tomorrow! I’m excited to get my life back. It feels good to quit on the 1st day of a new month , it makes me feel like I can reinvent myself, like a fresh start. Any advice & Tips for Mood,motivation and cultivating my inner joy while getting clean? Thanks in advance

I’m currently down to ~7g daily 1.5g at 11a, 1.5g at 3p, 1.5g at 7p and 2.5g at 10:30p. I had to switch from capsules to powder because the capsules were so constipating but I like the longer lasting effects of the capsules and the more precise measuring. Question is once you’ve measured your dose, how do you get it from the scale into your mouth without it spilling?

Last dose was Wednesday at 12. It’s Saturday. Ive been weak and sick and tired.

But I cold turkeys off extracts and 7oh and if I can we all can. I lurk here what symptoms get real

For now I’m taking it one day at a time with a no going back mentality.

Only forward.

Cheers to you all. Sending love and light.

I'm currently two weeks in to a CT quit. Relatively low dosage. I was on at least 1 to 2 MIT 45s before jumping, then tried to taper off as much as possible. Finally got fed up with monitoring dosage and just went for it. Like most of us, I tried and then relapse numerous times before, but am committed to making this one work. Each time I relapsed it just kept getting worse and worse when I was on.

Anyway, I know many of us check this for suggestions on supplements, practices, habits etc. to help with the quit so I thought I would share a few I've found that aren't mentioned a lot on here:

1. There's a style of yoga called Bikram or now 26&2. It's 90 minutes of hot yoga with the same sequence of postures repeated twice. Its really easy to learn after one or two times and it has been a fucking godsend in my recovery. Lots of people talk about hot showers or saunas on here. It's sort of the same principle but with 10x of the benefits. Its not easy, but don't be intimidated. Anyone who goes is encouraged just to remain in the classroom for the duration. You can skip postures, lay down, meditate, etc. no problem. Its all about your journey. Now, in most places its around $25/class which I know is expensive and not everyone can afford to drop that each class. Also it may not be available in every town and city. But, if you are fortunate enough to live in one of those places and can find some way to make it work financially I highly HIGHLY suggest adding it to your toolbelt. Many studios have new student deals or monthly packages that help with the cost. My suggestion would be to try it out while you are planning your quit or tapering, do one two classes to get the lay of the land. Then, once you quit, grab an unlimited monthly package for at least one month and just fucking dive in. No matter what you need to do. Crawl into that studio on your hands and knees if you need to. I can all but guarantee that you'll be granted at least 4-5 hours of pain free, (almost) WD free living after each class. And that's hard to come by when you first start. The main benefits are that a) you sweat like hell and expel so many of the toxins that have accumulated in your body from usage b) it is very focused on breathing and getting good oxygen into parts of your body that may have been starving for it and c) it requires your whole attention, meaning it gives you a break from anxiety, intrusive thoughts, cravings, etc. even if just for 90 minutes. It feels like a vacation. Just make sure you are hydrating enough and that you rehydrate afterwards.

2. The other thing I've found that helps is using binaural beats for the body aches, pain, restlessness etc. that comes right after you stop. This isn't some far out, esoteric, alternative medicine treatment. Binaural beats have been medically tested and proven to reduce cravings for morphine in post operative patients and people who suffer chronic pain and fibromyalgia. Just Google "binaural beats pain relief" and you'll see. The good part is that as long as you have headphones and YouTube/Spotify, its free! And its also passive. You can use them as you lay in bed or at home while you're detoxing. I have a pair of over the ears, comfy, noise cancelling headphones (nothing fancy or expensive) that work great for this. I can tell you it does make a difference. Not a 100% cure all, but I definitely notice it. There's various frequencies that can be used for different things. Pain management, sleep, concentration, etc. Side note - you need to give it some time. They don't work in 5-10 mins., so set some time aside, lay down in bed and listen for at least 30 mins if you can. If you can listen to music at work, try them out instead of a playlist.

I hope these help a little and give people some tools to add to their quit plan. Love you all and we can do this!

Well.. I did it. Here I am. Im in a way better position than I was even two weeks ago.

The only problem that Im still having is GI problems and mild pain and fullness in my liver area. I have an appt with a gastro doctor, but my GP and the scheduling people at the gastro office made me feel kind of like an idiot for wanting to make an appointment. Because im only 32.

I wish I could make this shit up. Im really frustrated. It made me push back scheduling the appt for a few months and I really wish I wouldn't have. Because none of the symptoms have gone away.

Anyone else still dealing with stuff like this? Other than mild discomfort, some indigestion and having to poop a lot, im feeling a lot better.

Literally exercising 5 days a week, got my vitamins and diet in check, why am i struggling so bad with burn out and adrenal fatigue even just tapering off 10gpd??

i am currently in my 8th day withdrawling from a 7 year, 30g-50g a day habit, and holy fucking shit, this is hell.

i went cold turkey with 1g here and there to not kill myself.

i realize now, that kratom acts as a pain dam.

you may naively think that it deletes your pain at first, but you will soon find out it just blocks it up. and then when you no longer have kratom cemented in your mind as a dam for your pain, all that pain comes rushing in. and god is it awful.

everything hurts.

i have my thermostat set to 80 degrees fahrenheit because i am fucking freezing, but then every so often, i get hot and need to open my windows.

i am suicidally depressed and anxious, but am commited to living, so i am in a tough situation.

i haven't cried in maybe 3 years and now all of a sudden i am crying at anything that makes feel emotional, and moaning from the pain i am in.

i am so restless but can't rest.

i have taken about 25 showers in this time, seems to be the best relief.

the goosebumps and sweating are awful.

i have puked so many times.

during a puking fit i had a wave of nausea so strong the my body vibrated to the point where i felt i had turned to stone for at least 15 seconds, completely incapacitated, and sweat was literally pouring out of me. it was almost a spiritual event, but negative.

i have been through withdrawal with alcohol many times and with benzos once, and all were awful.

also, for some time when i was 21, every friday i would take about 25mg of oxycodone and go out to the bar, but it never became a habit.

strangely, kratom has become the hardest thing to quit ever. it's like a 10 day bad acid trip, while you have the worst flu you've ever had, times 100.

but the worst part about it is the smell. i am exuding an odor that smells like burnt onions, sugar, and metal and it's making me sick.

i also have bi-polar disorder and don't take any meds so this had been particularly painful for that reason as well.

it took me a long time to save the money to be able to take time off for this. once monday comes, i have to go back to work.

thanks for reading.

peace.

Just need to vent/whine. I’m cycling through various levels of misery. Can’t sleep any more. Hot/cold is torture. I also stupidly quit vaping at the same time so I’m super super angry. I hate this so so so so so bad.

I feel broken and like a shell of myself. I have had the most difficult year and a half. My marriage collapsed, my husband of 20 years brought a woman into our home, 16 years younger than me, and soon left for her, trying to suddenly take full custody of our 5 children that I have raised as a sahm for 18 years. He has psychologically abused me for years, worsening in the divorce battle. He convinced his whole family to turn away from me including my biological father and sister. My mom passed away in 2021, and my brother who was my father figure passed away this past June. I turned to kratom as I work in a drug tested job hoping it would be the answer to deal with all the heartache without showing up on a drug test. Within months I went from the tiny gas station drinks to 7oh. I want to quit so badly, I feel like I look sickly, I'm wasting all my money, and I'm having daily physical withdrawals without keeping up with it. I'm afraid of the sleepless night caused by the severe rls it gives me to go without, and the throwing up last night and body aches. I just want it all to stop. I have nobody to reach out to and I'm feeling stuck and broken and alone. Any guidance would help. God bless.

I just left the hospital with a medication that started with a T and some flow max, they shit me up with morphibe because the pain was unbearable. I'm currently still a little faded but my tolerance to opioids are strong, I can't stop using Kratom and it's destroying my kidneys and liver, DO NOT TAKE KRATOM EXTRACTS, they've killed my bladder and I'm just 18 years old. I'm lowk scared asl cause I was puking pretty bad too, how do I pass a kidney stone while managing opioid addiction? No insurance, no support, nun. Lowk might end this here ngl

So I'm posting this from a fresh account since my main is on a 2-day reddit suspension -- have had several posts in here about trying to quit, and here I am back again.

I have a pretty severe habit based on feedback + obvious reasons; currently down to 120mg of 7OH in a 24 hour period, about 20mg every 2 hours around the clock (roughly equal to 120 GPD of powder). Was at 240mg a few days ago, so a significant decline.

I'm trying to find something to hold onto to try and quit, and I think this time it'll be my heart rate. When I'm resting, my heart is pounding fast in my chest. Haven't measured it, but it feels FAST. I used to be in amazing shape with a sub 50 bpm rate, and I'm sure I'm at least near 80 now. Fortunately, I've got no chest pain when I take 7OH, only when I take powder or mitra extracts. Side note, I had open heart surgery 6 years ago at age 21 and currently have a pacemaker, making this doubly risky. After surgery I fell into an oxy/heroin/poly substance addiction, then found kratom powder, then kratom extract, and now 7OH for maybe 5 months already.

I'm going the route of a taper, but it's extremely difficult. I'll go half the day on a disciplined schedule, only to have a "fuck it" moment and down the rest of a shot and tell myself I'll just wait longer for the next dose, but of course that never happens, and it's really stopping me from getting any lower than 120mg of 7OH a day.

Does anyone have any advice for how to beat those impulsive moments?

Really feel like I'm fighting for my life here. It's stripped me of everything; I am a shell of myself. No hobbies, no passion, pale skin, hair falling out, I simply lay on the couch all day scrolling social media. I'd made a chunk of cash via investments earlier in the year and quit my job, but of course I didn't pursue my business plans and have blown through most of my savings and now am almost drained. Need to stop ASAP, but have a few weeks to do nothing but quit if needed. GF will certainly leave me soon -- you get the picture.

Any advice appreciated. Much love, fuck this hellish drug.

I’ve been taking 3 opms gold extracts a day for the last 6 years 3 days ago I found 7hydroxy. I’ve been taking it for 3 days and decided today I am not taking it anymore Just from the 3 days of taking it I’m noticing withdrawal symptoms It’s scary how strong this stuff is and how fast you withdraw I need a taper plan to get off Kratom completely. I’ve been saying for months im going to stop this Kratom habit but never do. I’m finally over it and looking for help. I have a wife and a young daughter that I could invest in a lot more if this stuff wasn’t around I want myself back. I’m not looking to use any other opioids or benzos to stop Kratom. I just want to simply taper. I can handle all the withdraw symptoms except restless legs. Please if anybody has found a tapering plan let me in. I need help. I never realized I had that much of a problem until I ran into the 7hydroxy 3 days ago and have been indulging in that way more than my regular opms Kratom extract habit. I’m not touching 7hydroxy again and looking for a way to cut back on the opms shots

Back in the middle of September is when I stopped kratom and nicotine after tapering off both, my jump off date so to speak. I struggled a lot with everything, my mental health, my use of other substances (stupid I know, trying my best to fight a couple problems at a time), work, relationship, just life in general. I fell into a very deep and dark depression, one of the worst depressive episodes I've ever experienced.

When you find the will to fight every day you sometimes don't notice the slow but steady improvements your body and mind experience. You keep getting slightly stronger, and eventually you realize you feel pretty damn close to your old and true self. I still struggle with other substances sometimes, but I feel like myself again. After experiencing this horrible shit that is kratom, I'm absolutely terrified of other opioid, godspeed to anyone addicted to that stuff. Even with kratom, my partner told me at the end of my addiction that I had become a ghost of my former self, and she was absolutely correct, I'll never forget how that comment actually pierced through the kratom haze and made me feel ashamed of what I had become.

I'm generally a neurotic hypersensitive mess that struggles with life in general, but if it can get better for me, everyone here still trying to quit has a fighting chance and can accomplish this. You'll feel your emotions again, and it will be awful and overwhelming, but you'll soon be who you were before this crap.

Best wishes to everyone and I hope you all can beat this too. Happy that I'm aware of this community of people who all have learned the truth about this drug and what it does to people.