So, I thought I'd get better advice if I asked other plural systems. I'm well aware of the plural community. I am from within the LGBT community (trans, nonbinary). I'm asking, whether from experience or something else entirely, how I could treat the relationship. I've met several of the people in her body already. To tell you the truth, she's the first IRL plural system I'd met, and for the matter, I'm pretty inexperienced. I would appreciate if I had a little help.

When you say that you talk to one another, that's not *metaphor* for sharing thoughts, right? Like you actually "hear" multiple lines of thought?

Because like you know how singlets talk about arguing with themselves? So yeah I never actually had that happen to me before I think, not that I remember. Even when I write fiction I can't really, like, hear the characters. So when it did happen it kind of freaked me out.

Yeah. I love you guys, sorry for me popping into this sub and various others and going ham on the interrrogation. As it turns out I just don't have internal dialogue. So when I thought I "heard somebody else?" That's literally my own thoughts. It's just that 90% of the time I don't think in words, so when I do, it didn't feel like me. I was humanizing my own thoughts. This is kind of hilarious in retrospect?

Like I looked up talking to oneself and some non-plural people talk about having, like, the angel and the devil on their shoulder.

For a long time I thought I was "multifaceted" but I kind of don't *have* facets. I have a gradient.

Anyways if I got something wrong or whatever please point it out for me. Also the tulpa I was talking about euthanizing the other day? Yeah so that was just also me trying to cheer myself up by talking to myself.

OK yeah that's about it, tldr, this is a great community, thanks for helping me figure out that I'm not a part of it, peace out. Unless I go through another crisis and come back lol.

okay so long story short, we have several alters who like to present much more feminine, and others that like to present more masculine, but every time they dress how they want and go out in public, someone else switches in and ends up being very uncomfortable. ive tried communicating with them and saying that it might be easier if they just chose more gender neutral outfits, but they are very very stubborn 😭😭 does anyone have any advice? -milkshake

So we have depression(diagnosed)

We have meds for it but they don't seem to be enough and we wont be able to talk to our therapist for a while to get a bigger dose (our therapist doesn't know about us being plural cuz we figured ot out after our meeting)

So any advice on dealing with depression as a syste?

-Idk who it fronting

I am a part of a system with 6 members, 2 boys, 4 girls (inc. me).
*sigh* even the fact that im using the "I" pronoun, exhausts me.
basically I am the "original" of this system if this makes sense, still getting used to plurality community terminology and jargon.
The point is- i am the only one who has ever fronted and in physical control of this body since the birth of it.
My headmates/alters have little to no physical control and have to ask me if they want me to do something, which they usually don't or i comply and agree 99% of the times because THANK GOD WE ARE VERY HOMOGENOUS AND STABLE.
But sometimes it makes me...well not sure about others but me specifically that our system is less unique and less diverse than others and also I feel somewhat guilty of having too much control (though the fact that i have it was/is beyond my control and i know it).
Sometimes I feel my other headmates are in a eternal prison with me as the warden. All of them severely disagree with this though and they say that while they sometimes feel sad due to not having control and me being the "main character", they also realize that thing was/is not a factor I can control much/yet and they also say its okay and they can put up with it and its not that difficult.
Any advice ?
Also would appreciate if yall can suggest some system discord servers to chat in.

Doctors are convinced I have BPD. I hear voices and have a conversion disorder. This means I have nerve pain at times and cant move. I dont hallucinate the voices are more like internal dialogue and characters in my head. Psychologists and doctors tell me I must be faking hearing voices or am just imagining it because I have no amnesia so it cant be DID. They say I am hypersexual because I asked to talk to doctors in provate about me hearing voices and they say thats an excuse for flirting. I asked to talk in private because I was scared one of the voices would get hostile and hurt me. they say the fact I am unemployed and dont do any of my hobbies is a sign I am depressed and need to take mood stabilizers. I dont do my hobbies because people always have bullied me for them so I just dont do them anymore now. I dont have mood swings or fear of abandonment. I dont have anger issues and I am asexual and never dated anyone (not planning to either)

They say these are all signs of BPD and I am just lacking self awareness. Parents also think I dont have it. I have tried talking about these doubts but doctors dont listen.

I don't want to be seen as those fakers in tiktok

I think I may have a dissociative disorder, or a disorder with "alters" / "personalities" and I'm not saying that because it's quirky, I'm genuinely saying that because its the only thing I think matches my experience and it's damaged my life.

I've been hearing other voices, and feeling others in my head since before I was 9, and my dissociation and memory issues have only gotten worse since. I have been zoning out a lot in my life but I don't really remember anything well. Everything before the present is kind of all mush, apart from a few memories that stand out, like this one;

It was a bit over a year ago, October last year. I'd been feeling worse for a while. I had zoned out on a certain memory and it played over and over and over again until it felt like I was back there. My breathing sped up, I couldn't see anything but the memory and I was crying like I was there. When I snapped out of it, I became very disoriented. I had to register where I was again, and who I was with (my boyfriend.) my words were mixed up and it sounded like I had to get used to a body that wasn't mine. My boyfriend asked what my name was and it only made me fumble more. I took a while before answering, and I sat against the wall. My mind went back to that memory (that isn't even real, it's not mine that I remember) and I begun to cry again. I sort of felt someone move forwards, almost like I was gently being loved out of "my spot" in my head. Someone took control and when I opened my eyes again, I was crying my eyes out on my boyfriends chest in a completely different position. And after a few minutes it all changed again. I felt weird and I started crying and then I was sitting up, watching someone else in control of my body. I could see through their eyes, everything I had opinions for had changed and I felt like I was quite literally watching a different version of me. Then I remember crying again and hearing myself say "he's not coming back" 'him' being me. My room in that moment felt like a friend's room. Not mine but not so foreign that it was a strangers room. Fortunately my boyfriend was there the whole time. After that I haven't really quite felt like myself, I still feel like I'm someone pretending to be me. A few days after that apparently a girl known as 'Brie' had been in front for most of the day. She seemed to be very spiteful towards my family and hid away from my sister and brother. She has very different interests from me (this is all information from my partner). I do have a lot of black outs now but I'm never able to tell if someone else 'fronted' it just kind of feels like someone's taken a part of my memory out. I am currently seeing a therapist and bringing up these issues with him, but I don't like to be direct incase he just writese off as those seen on tiktok. Honestly, these fakers have done so so so much harm to everyone around them. A big fear of mine is being seen as someone like that. I'm scared incase people don't believe me, I'm worried incase someone thinks I'm making this all up. It's genuinely causing me pain and distress, it's distracting and harming every day of my life. It's haunting and I think it's fucked how these people can just laugh and act like it's a quirky thing when it's not.

I'm sorry for such a big rant, I just need to get it out. There's many more things I could add to this, but I'm trying to summarise most of it

I'm also not going to Reddit to try and get a diagnosis, there's not really any questions in here, I just want a response mainly so I know someone has listened to me, someone has understood what I have said, confirmation that I'm not crazy, that I'm not faking. I have constantly ask my boyfriend "am I faking" and it's annoying him.

Would it be bad to brush them off (headmates), the main reason for this question is because I’m starting to doubt my blackouts I’ve had. Idk if it’s real, Ik my headmates are real and stuff since it’s been months, but it’s hard atm and I hate it. I don’t want to doubt them or any of my experiences, and it’s all because of smth that happened yesterday and it sucks🥲 I don’t want to brush them off since we made a lot of progress over the months. I don’t think I’ll brush them off, Idk..

So after some hesitation, we've decided to commit the cardinal sin and make our return to World of Warcraft. Thankfully after syscovery we're much more optimistic about the idea: now we can each have our own character and don't have to try and do what the others want! But part of this plan is that we don't want to mask who we are, not to the people we play with. So does anyone know of any guilds for plurals or at least are accepting of plurals?

Hello. I created a Paracosm outside of Wonderland 2 years ago. I have compulsive daydreaming disorder and I didn't know Tulpas existed. I have a character named Agonae but she is not sentient despite the 24/7 forcing I did. I have several Paracosms.

I care about the characters. So my question is: can I make these paracosms become Tulpas but in different dimensions?

My question is: can I make them become Tulpas while staying in their worlds and not in Wonderland?

My Wonderland is a galaxy with these planets but I don't have access to them... except to the paracosms...

Is it possible? A good idea?

We literally JUST made a post (right here) about how we haven't split in 2+ months because of our good coping mechanisms... and then we split this morning.

Turns out that our previous lack of splitting was not because we cope well with stress - it was just because we weren't in a situation that was personally stressful enough to split. And then one just hit us all at once, and boom, a new headmate formed.

It's me. I'm the new headmate. Hi. 👋

~ Genesis, she/her, emotional protector of the Absiinthium Guild

I'm not exactly moody or fronting; but I need to make this post very quickly. it's the bpd alter again:

how does everyone else deal with hating another alter? I always thought I'd never have this problem with our general philosophy being that we would accept ourselves as we are and generally try to live within peace to keep us from having a harder time.

except, it's been a while since those alters split from me, and i still can't stop hating one of them. I feel so immature for it. especially because it was an enjoyment of something very important to me that she took from me.

idk, I feel like half of the reason why we haven't spoken either is because she's deaf. (the other half is that I hate her and I'm ashamed of it and I don't really care to speak to her because of it. also probably because she's another girl, and I find myself deeply jealous of other girls.)

I feel like I can't ask this anywhere else/to anyone else without being just... idk ridiculed for being so jealous and for having this kind of infighting. it's just so embarrassing that I hate myself so much I guess.

edit: i feel I must rephrase because it doesn't feel like people understand the depth of my hate. I guess titling it as fighting gave the implication that this is an equal conflict. it is not. she has no knowledge about any of this.

i hate her so much that I want to strangle her. I hate her so much I hope she dies. I hate her so much because she stole qualities from me that made me likeable. I hate her so much I want to harm our body.

I do not like her. I do not care about her. she is everything I wanted to be, but she left me behind, so I hate her with everything I have. this is my problem. I hate her, and she is oblivious. I hate her, and we haven't even spoken. I hate her, and she has affected my personal ability to have any sort of relationship.

i do not know how to stop. talking about this with the people close to us/our system only seems to make my friends worse off. like they get turned off by my distress. it feels like I have to repress this until I eventually explode, and probably do hurt said hated-alter.

I have a friend that switched during work, and her headmate that i'll be calling A if i answer any questions, showed up at front, and told his name to some ppl and all, so some people at work including me, knows about them being a system. I am part of a system.

I am very openly plural online but i think they're unaware of it regardless. It is not a secret that i& know about it already, so, would it be okay if i told her i'm a system too and it's okay for her to be open about it with us?

(She is aware of what A did)

As the title says. We made a post in r/TrueOffMyChest about how we regret our transition because most of our alters are dysphoric about it. It exploded in popularity, and now we are being harassed and fakeclaimed in multiple subreddits. Mila is beyond angry at me, the person who made the original post.

Any advice?

I nodded, waited for the session to end, said the ending pleasantries, and then cried. I only half understood why I was crying. Why do I want a disorder that can ruin people's lives?

I'm not going to contest the results. I answered every question honestly, or as honestly as possible (I didn't understand some of them). I'm not going to get a second opinion. I'm not going to bring it up again. I'm not going to claim an experience I don't have.

I was told that the dissociation I was experiencing could be solved by medication. I don't want more stupid medication. I take 6 1/2 pills a day and they don't do shit. They don't make me any less broken. I was asked if I thought my dissociation caused "significant distress" after the screening. What the hell was I supposed to say? That I was breaking down in real time because of fucking "minimal dissociative tendencies"? That's supposed to be people who zone out while driving. Or maybe not. Is what I experience supposed to be normal?

I'm wondering if this means I could just get rid of the others. Yes, I said it. I don't care what you fuckers up here think of my desire. I mean, I don't have any real disorder that forces them to stay in my head. No "brain rewired to dissociate" shit. They're stray thoughts. I want my life back. Did I ever have my life?

I don't know what I expected to happen today. To get help. Maybe. There's no way this is normal. Am I schizophrenic like I originally thought? Or am I just someone who got too wrapped up in escapism through personas and let them get away from them?

Good evening. I realized that I have a paracosm. I have unsuitable daydreaming. However.. I can't visualize my inner. But I can do it randomly if I'm not focused. So, it's never my inner "island" but completely random stuff.

how can i differentiate the alters? how can i go to the inner island?

heya! i'm nozomi! i have lots of headmates, and we're all pretty childish, we love gaming, anime, blowing huge bubbles of any kind (gum, soap, etc) balloon animals, all that. Ofc we also love learning and experiencing stuff like astral projection, reality shifting, dimension jumping, servitors, all that stuff that can make life interesting! if anyone wants to talk, hit us up on discord! its rings2006wilson. We're physically amd mentally 18, but do have age regrettion/sliding sometimes, but very rairly

Hi, I should make it clear before starting that I'm not officially diagnosed with DID, any kind of dissociative disorder or PTSD/C-PTSD (however I'm like 99% certain I have Complex PTSD due to my background). I should also preface by saying that I am on a wait list to see a psychiatrist. Also the reason I'm posting in here and not somewhere else is because I feel that the voices are separate from the possible psychosis. Especially because I've had some very clear cut signs that I'm not always me if that makes sense. I am aware however that I'm not a professional and I'm not trying to self diagnose, I was just wondering if anyone had any advice or reassurance.

Basically over the past year I have started suspecting that I might be a system (turns out according to other voices, we've been suspecting it for far longer but whenever we'd get close to possibly acknowledging it we'd get a sudden urge to delete absolutely everything and we'd forget until several years later the cycle would repeat). It was a rather terrible time for me and also I was in a really toxic situation however I thought things would have gotten a bit better with everything since we moved away from that toxic situation. I was wrong however. That toxic situation had caused a particular voice to come back who at the time I didn't realise held a fair few psychosis symptoms. As in he'd see things or things would morph into eachother to create a whole new thing. The brain would also morph sounds into other sounds etc. My paranoia also came back. I'd lie awake at night fully believing that I would die because a guy with a massive hatchet was out to kill me and could magically teleport inside my house (I've tried to logically reason with that bit but it just makes it worse). Anyway, I went to my GP about it and he suspected psychosis so referred me to see a psychiatrist about 6 months ago. Still haven't seen one and life has kind of become umbearable. Most days when I have university (this only happens when stressed but lectures set off my severe social anxiety) the voices will "paralyse" my body until I tell them that they either don't have to go to class or I manage to calm them down somehow which can take upwards of 30 minutes to do and even then anything can set them off. Even if I manage to get to lecture I will dissociate most of the way through it until my eyes and head hurt and the world has changed colour about 5 times. I just don't really know what to do at this point and I'm struggling. Plus I feel that I'm faking everything and I constantly worry that I'm this massive horrible person for suspecting I have DID even though I don't have a PTSD/CPTSD diagnosis or a DID diagnosis. I just worry that I'm adding stigma to an already stigamatised disorder. Plus the thought of possibly having psychosis or schizophrenia terrifies me due to the media's and the general public's perception of that disorder too. I know I'm probably jumping the gun a bit since I haven't been diagnosed with anything yet but it's all becoming so overwhelming and a massive worry of mine

Sorry for the partial rant it's just I've been holding onto it for so long and I don't really have anyone to talk to about it. Any advice or reassurance given will be greatly appreciated. Thank you

I’m only assuming, by here’s what I think is my evidence.

• Excessive masking at a young age, and rapidly switching between different mentalities. (Different people required a different approach to interact with. Some people need someone who is strong, smart, kind, brave. And I couldn’t be all those at the same time.)

• Foggy memories, particularly with a trend of when they go dark. (People say I would get into fights as a kid, but I don’t remember fighting anyone in those days.)

• Unconsciously referring to my self as “we”, even in isolation. (It just feels more natural, I can’t really explain it)

• There was a specific moment in my life that feels like everything before it is disconnected. (As if a switch was flipped and suddenly I’m in a body that isn’t mine.)

• Hearing occasional voices talking to me, and even stranger, they respond back. (I’ve gotten to know them, like they’re my own sisters)

Is there any merit to any of these, or am I just being crazy and appropriating someone else’s condition.

Okay, so there's an asterisk in there because we have had two headmates fuse into each other and technically create a new headmate, but because it wasn't a split, we're not counting it here :)

So, on September 20, we split off a bunch of headmates (including the aforementioned two who fused), and it was definitely more of a stressful time. But now, it's been over two months, and we haven't been stressed enough to split a single headmate, even when we thought we would!

And I'm really proud of us and our coping mechanisms for that, especially considering that we split literally hundreds of times in 2023 and 2022. Meanwhile, in 2024, I don't think the number's even hit triple digits yet, which is SO cool and really speaks to what one can accomplish with healthy friend groups and work they actually like!

This is just a "wow look at us go" post :) That I ended up posting a bit early LMFAO (on that note, TIL that pressing the space bar acts as the "post" button when used in conjunction with the shift button.)

~ The Absiinthium Guild, xe/vae (with slight influence from Alto, xe/he/bard+)

🦚 So something has come to our attention and a bit of guidance would be appreciated.

Of our crew of 10, there are 2 of us who have "changed form" so to speak. What I mean by this is one of us started as a fox, but now sees herself as far more human with fox-like tendencies. Another of us started off as a Pokéfusion (Incineroar × Machamp) but now sees himself as almost exclusively human.

How normal is this?

I don’t really use this sub at all but this shit just hit me extra hard tonight and so I feel like sharing somewhere. And honestly I’m not sure if this is like too personal and ill regret posting it or what but I’m just hurting a lot.

I’m Hazel, though I also use the names Sophia and Charlotte, as those were the two members of my system when I was viewing myself that way. It had been the two of us for a very, very long time without quite realizing it, I think the system formed around when I was ten years old and I only discovered the language to describe it and figured out that there were two of us shortly after my twenty first birthday. So basically, even if just subconsciously while denying it up front, the two of us had been doing everything together for an entire decade, pretty much all of my life that I can actually remember, as I still can’t help but block out that first decade a fair bit.

When we became fully conscious of each other, it was such an amazing and liberating feeling. Feeling like half a human for so long only to actually meet your other half, to find this person who had been guiding and protecting you for effectively most of your life, it was so beautiful, Charlotte made me so happy (currently I feel like my consciousness continued on from Sophie and like Charlotte isn’t present so much, so to my current perspective, she was the “other”). She loved me so much, and I loved her so much. I recognized all the trauma she had protected me from, all the worst points of my life that she took the brunt of for me. This person within me loved me more than I ever did, and she inspired me to become a better, stronger, healthier person because of that.

This lasted for about eight months. We felt the fusion coming for a while, and we were both very conflicted on if we wanted it or not, but after a certain point it felt like running from the inevitable. With how open our communication was and how affectionate and supportive of each other we were, I don’t know if there was any way to stop us from coming together, and now that we have as of a little over a month ago, despite the positives, I just feel so lost and alone. Ironically, I felt much more whole when I was split apart. Despite my mind and perception feeling clearer and more complete, there’s just a hole there that kills me to be reminded of. The feeling of habitually talking to myself for my entire life, and always being answered, even if I didn’t quite recognize it that way, to now speaking into a void is the most haunting thing I’ve ever felt. I don’t really feel like the sum of Sophie and Charlotte, I feel like a more jaded Sophie with the weight of a dead woman on my mind.

I remember a point soon after we became aware of each other, when in bed one night she had the realization of “I’ll never get to kiss her” referring to me, and at that realization she cried so hard and for such a long time, telling me “sorry” over and over again and kissing whatever parts of my body she could reach (arms and knees mostly). It was the first time I think she ever cried, besides maybe at the ending of Bojack Horseman (I think that shit got both of us lol) and we resolved that while we might not be able to kiss, at least on the lips, we would make it up by being partners in everything for the rest of our lives. Now she’s gone and all I can think is I’ll never get to kiss her.

(I know I ask a lot of questions 😅) However, I wanted to share an experience with you..., I have an alter (which we will call Y).

We both agreed to do non-possessive switching. The first time it happened, when we tried, I think he didn't succeed and neither did I, but I had a big dissociation... I felt really weird. As if I had tried a big effort... do you have this kind of thing?

Should we continue? persevere?

For the exercise, I imagined a ball of energy of his color that he came to take the body and me outside.

My name is Spencer, and I come from criminal minds (the t.v show). I'm not the only one, there is also Penelope (same source) and Abby(from NCIS). Um I guess I just wanted my presence known, I am new though, but I am 5 years clean(I used to be an addict due to a unsub kidnapping me) and I have ptsd (from the same event, and from my mother). Honestly I find this all a bit weird considering most of my contact with 'plural'(?) people are murders (not saying that all of them are ofc, but it is strange? Odd? Considering my source and such) I'm sure with time this will change as I find myself and who I am v.s my source and such. Well um I hope we can be friends?-🕵🏻

I’ve struggled all my life to make friends, but it’s especially hard to find anyone like me. Being a system is certainly unique. I would love advice as to making friends. I’ve tried discord servers, but it feels like when I say something…the chat dies. I’m not good at determining when I should jump in/out of the conversation.

To those who DID make plural friends, how did u meet them? Any advice?

Edit: can’t change the title but true title: I have no factives, is that common?

I only have - are they still fixatives if the sources were OCs? - whatever that is, everyone is only that, except for one, who is just child me who is seemingly going to be a child forever.

Also, related but not really - yknow how some people think they just have a really good writing voice for their OC and it turns out it was an alter all along? Technically they weren’t sourced from an OC, the OC was sourced from them! What do they call themselves in that case??

Sorry I know these questions are mostly meaningless and just labels and categories in order to make things easier to talk about and share experiences - but I’m curious!

Edit: I think the word I was actually thinking of was factives, not introjects, sorry I gottem mixed up

First, I want to say that they didn't pass. They just didn't talk to us as a whole for 6 or 7 months.

Anyways, nearly a week ago someone responded saying they had gotten married and were avoiding contact because they thought we were only contacting them for personal gain. Of course, I made it a point to apologize and assure them that that wasn't anyone's intent. They thanked me for being honest, but somehow it's too easy to feel guilty.

That brings me to the main reason for this post: Has anyone on here experienced something similar? It's difficult for us to process all this especially since they waited months after the marriage to tell us. It feels like a waste of 4 years of trust, and I don't think we will continue talking to them. Feels like they might hide any potential future concerns from us as well..

Thanks, Sergey.

I thought of this question after seeing a post where someone made picrews of their system, with the members shown. They all appeared to be pretty visually distinct. Meanwhile, the four of us (me, Wade, Benjamin, and Sid) all look pretty much the same. Different dress styles and minor variations in cosmetic appearances. But all based on the body. Even the ones of us who are fictives picture ourselves as a variation on the body.

There are two more (maybe??? Not sure how concrete either is) that definitely don't look like the body. Scallops (?) and Amy (?) (how am I even sure that these are their names?). One is a cosmic star creature and the other is a zombie-ish thing. But they're both very undeveloped (no offense if you read this later). I'm assuming they'll take on the body's appearance more as they form. But I could be wrong. Who knows lol.

I'm curious how many of you are majority headmates that look similar and how many of you are majority headmates that are very visually distinct. Just curious about the variation in the community.