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Freethought is an open forum dedicated to rational, logical and scientific examination of culture, politics, religion, science, business and more!

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/r/Freethought is an open forum dedicated to rational, logical and scientific examination of culture, politics, religion, science, business and more!

Freethinkers reject claims and beliefs which are not testable and verifiable using established scientific methods, and encourage a society that espouses the priority of rationality and reason over dogma, emotion and pop doctrine.

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How do we have the right to manipulate our body?

##TLDR If we consider that the body and the mind are inherently unified and not separate entities, how can we justify the notion of having full autonomy or ‘ownership’ over the body? Does the body truly belong to the self if, without the mind, it becomes mere flesh, and yet the mind is fundamentally bound to the body’s mortality? Furthermore, in cases like plastic surgery, where the mind enacts a change upon the body: 1. Does the individual possess the right to alter their body in this way? 2. After such an alteration, does the individual remain the same ‘self’?

(and i must say that this is highly irrelevant to modern political issues about abortion and etc. in abortion baby is simply another object in the body which occupies space and doesnt belong to body)

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Hello, I’ve been pondering a question that initially seemed simple but has grown increasingly complex for me. At first, I couldn’t understand why the idea that the body shouldn’t “possess” the mind was problematic. However, after reflecting more deeply, I’ve started to see the tension, and it has stayed on my mind ever since.

Recently, I came across Aristotle’s perspective on the body and mind, where he describes their relationship as one of master and servant. This only added to my confusion. On one hand, the body and mind are united—they are not separate entities. But on the other hand, without the mind, the body is reduced to mere flesh. This seems to reintroduce a kind of division between the two.

It’s also undeniable that the body influences the mind, sometimes persistently so—for instance, through the inevitable reality of death. This suggests that the mind doesn’t have full domination over the body, as emotions, instincts, and mortality all play a role in shaping our thoughts and actions.

And John Locke says it was a white table if we werent had any experience. So basically the mind is strictly dependent to the body. Locke was telling that memories were defining our identity, yet for that one i don't agree because our body has a part in the identity too.

Now, this tension becomes even more striking in specific scenarios like plastic surgery. Imagine undergoing a facial surgery. Here, the mind exerts its will over the body in a direct and tangible way. This raises two deeply philosophical questions: 1. Do we truly have the right to alter our bodies in such a way, especially when considering the interconnectedness of body and mind? 2. After making such a change, do we remain the same self?

These questions challenge our understanding of autonomy, identity, and what it means to be “whole.”

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2024/11/28
22:54 UTC

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A Framework to Evaluate Countries

I have worked with governments across the world for several years and have developed a straightforward framework for evaluating countries. I would appreciate your feedback and critique on the same.

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2024/11/26
10:46 UTC

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TPUSA Poll Workers Recruitment to Gain Special Access to Polling Locations During EVACUATIONS

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2024/11/20
00:59 UTC

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Jimmy Kimmel Makes A Strong Case To Republicans On The Eve Of This Election - This may be worth sending to any of your friends who do care about the future and what's truth.

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2024/11/01
03:18 UTC

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Voting for President in America Does Not Matter

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2024/10/25
20:11 UTC

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The Fundamentalist Christian Film That 'Cures' Homosexuality

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2024/10/23
19:52 UTC

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John Oliver discusses how the West Bank settlements came to be, what their presence means for everyone in the region.

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2024/10/21
14:33 UTC

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Israel is a rogue nation. It should be removed from the United Nations

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2024/10/17
15:18 UTC

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