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5

Hacking offsetting penalties when spiking the ball?

If neither the offense nor the defense is set when the ball is snapped, there will be offsetting penalties, resulting in the clock stopping, right? And the down will count? Or will it be a dead ball penalty and the clock starting on signal?

I just thought of it when the bears D was offside on a spike play. Why wait for the center when one WR can just snap it to another WR while the defense is still on the wrong side of the ball?

3 Comments
2024/11/10
20:33 UTC

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Bucs just ran Sally (or something similar to it). This is the second time I’ve seen them run it

0 Comments
2024/11/10
20:18 UTC

1

Who would win a head to head? Best CFL team vs. Best UFL team

I feel like this is the right place to ask this question and it's something I was thinking about.

What if we had a hypothetical game between the best UFL team and the best CFL team using NFL rules?

Which team do you think would perform better and why?

For players that want to go to the NFL that didn't make it, which route is better?

4 Comments
2024/11/10
16:27 UTC

6

Power Read as a Buck Sweep Compliment?

For reference I am a TE/OLB coach in a spread offense and do not call plays, this is just food for thought. The team I currently coach uses Outside Zone as a compliment to Buck Sweep (if he stops squeezing downs we’ll just run him to the SL and cut up) and through some Wing-T research heard about Down being a Buck compliment and essentially make the DE choose if he wants to keep squeezing down blocks or get kicked.

Is there anyone out there who is using power read as a compliment to Buck? I imagine if he stops squeezing downs it gives the QB a give read and he can replace but I am 100% sure there is more nuance to it.

Thanks in advance

9 Comments
2024/11/10
14:56 UTC

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[DAILY OFF TOPIC THREAD]

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0 Comments
2024/11/10
14:01 UTC

0

What is the price of an Axiom?

2 Comments
2024/11/09
18:04 UTC

52

What do you guys think will be the next innovation in the college game, offensively or defensively?

Could we see strats of old become new again?

67 Comments
2024/11/09
17:21 UTC

5

Best way to print wristbands?

Been trying to print wristbands for a while now, started using Playmaker X but when I print them stuff gets cut off most of the time. Is there a better option available?

Edit: Was able to print the wristbands, just now need to find a way to laminate them.

19 Comments
2024/11/09
14:45 UTC

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[DAILY OFF TOPIC THREAD]

Welcome to the Daily Off Topic Thread. In this thread we are going to permit off-topic conversations that do not fit the general content of the sub. Here is what this sub can be used for:

  • Play Designs (normally in violation of Rule 11)
  • Players asking for technical advice and tips WITH VIDEO. VIDEO IS REQUIRED.
  • Lighter, off topic conversations adjacent to football, but do not necessarily fall under the coaching or strategy of the game.
  • Equipment questions
  • By Off Topic, I mean Off Topic. Feel free to share or comment about other topics
  • Product promotion that can clearly not be seen as link spamming or karma farming

Here is what's not allowed:

  • Random pictures of your "drip" or pics of your body (I see this a lot in smaller football subs)
  • NSFW content, extensive swearing, and any content violating reddit rules
  • Violation of sub rules and question that are answered in the HS/Youth Player FAQ
  • It's listed in the sub rules too, but it has to be stressed: Be genuine. If you're here to argue, please go elsewhere.
  • Link and promo spamming (do not be posting every single day)

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0 Comments
2024/11/09
14:01 UTC

15

Passing Concept Question for you Skinny Guy Coaches

I’m a line guy. We can block it up. Got the pass pro handled too. Love some PA with the GT or GH pull to sell run.

Here’s the issue:

My HC is the play caller. I have a lot of pull on the run game, but not the pass. We threw the ball a lot this year and only at about 52% 🤦🏻‍♂️. The most we ran any pass concept was 10 times. We ran a ton of things only once. After showing him the data and analysis, I have him listening. Obviously I want to run 🐽. But I want to help him get into good pass looks.

I know Smash is good vs C2. Verts is good vs C3. Are you pass happy guys calling pass concepts vs a coverage, or just running it? What concepts do you like to run vs particular coverages? What is your read player for throwing to which receiver? Looking to put together a menu for him to cut things down and give our kids a good look.

IE: Smash vs Cover 2, read the Corner

8 Comments
2024/11/09
13:33 UTC

405

What happened to the kid who was learning to throw a football?

I need an update.

81 Comments
2024/11/09
12:59 UTC

25

Continue to tell player to keep trying?

Is there a certain point where it is just greedy?

Hi all, need some guidance. Son started football for the first time freshman year. Absolutely expected not a lot of playing time because of lack of experience. But now we are three years in. My son has never missed a game or practice. Even during off season he practices everyday. Mostly weightlifting. He hast had a summer in 3 years. To wrap it up he's been committed. He's on varsity this year because because he is an upperclassman. He will go in the game sometimes and for no exaggeration 10 seconds on a running clock 4th quarter. His team will be up by 30 points or more with no chance of the other team winning. My question is at that point when there is no threat to loosing the game what is the harm in more playing time? Most games he doesn't play at all. I get winning but when your kid has shown commitment and effort consistently as a coach how do you balance that? It's almost insulting. I can tell it is taking a toll. He used to go from "well I'm happy to be apart of the team, I'll just work hard" to 3 years later like he has lost all his hope. It seems like to be 30+ points over in 4th quarter and not put in kids that show up every day is greedy. As a parent I am not sure what to say to my kid because I don't understand it myself. Any insight?

101 Comments
2024/11/09
06:45 UTC

2

2015 Broncos D Playbook

Does anyone have the playbook for the 2015 Broncos defense?

0 Comments
2024/11/09
03:52 UTC

2

2016 49ers Playbook

Does anyone have a playbook for the 2016 49ers offense? Or any offense that was super similar? Like a spread/air raid/patriots erhardt-Perkins?

0 Comments
2024/11/09
03:52 UTC

11

Studying NFL coaches and schemes

Hey, everyone. Here’s an interesting question for you guys: What clinics/playbooks/resources out there do you think are best to study to better understand the scheme for each NFL team? In other words, what resources would you recommend to better evaluate what (insert NFL team) does on O and D? Or what playbooks or clinics do you think best represent the scheme of a certain NFL team?

9 Comments
2024/11/09
01:38 UTC

14

What are some common defensive “checks” in college football?

The team I play has a check for trips and a check for a plus split wide receiver on the field side. What are some other common checks?

11 Comments
2024/11/08
21:35 UTC

3

Free Talk Friday - November 08, 2024

Have anything on your mind or got any fun plans for the weekend? Feel free to discuss them here!

0 Comments
2024/11/08
16:00 UTC

9

[DAILY OFF TOPIC THREAD]

Welcome to the Daily Off Topic Thread. In this thread we are going to permit off-topic conversations that do not fit the general content of the sub. Here is what this sub can be used for:

  • Play Designs (normally in violation of Rule 11)
  • Players asking for technical advice and tips WITH VIDEO. VIDEO IS REQUIRED.
  • Lighter, off topic conversations adjacent to football, but do not necessarily fall under the coaching or strategy of the game.
  • Equipment questions
  • By Off Topic, I mean Off Topic. Feel free to share or comment about other topics
  • Product promotion that can clearly not be seen as link spamming or karma farming

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  • Random pictures of your "drip" or pics of your body (I see this a lot in smaller football subs)
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  • It's listed in the sub rules too, but it has to be stressed: Be genuine. If you're here to argue, please go elsewhere.
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PLEASE make use of these resources below before you post:

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14 Comments
2024/11/08
14:02 UTC

24

Double wing or Power T

I’m looking at running the Double wing offense (markham/Valloton) or the Power T next season and for seasons to come. We are a very small school (230 Kids in the HS) and need a niche offense to hang our hat on and commit too. I’m not looking for the magic bullet offense, but after watching our film I am a run first ball control mentality coach and need to find the offense to fit this mentality. We are in the Midwest. I am looking for suggestions/resources for both offenses, preferably books I can add to my library. Any suggestions or insight on what offense one prefers over the other would be appreciated as well. I currently have already bought “the toss” by Jerry Valloton and have read it two times through in the last two weeks. Trying to gain as much knowledge and information as I can until Christmas break when I need to nail down the system to start teaching my assistants for next season.

24 Comments
2024/11/08
01:23 UTC

7

Defensive equipment wishlist

I just finished my first year as defensive coordinator for my high school’s varsity team. My head coach came to me recently asking for any equipment, etc. that I would want for the season. Looking for suggestions on equipment, videos, anything that would be beneficial for the upcoming season.

For context, we’re a base 3-3 stack team running primarily cover 3 when we get any sort of twins look, and a cover 6 look when we get a trips / trey look. We’re also a super small school, with only about 40-45 kids in the entire high school program.

9 Comments
2024/11/07
22:34 UTC

43

2-TE Shotgun Formations in College?

Hi all,

I’m broadcasting a high school football game this weekend where a team runs an offense primarily with two tight ends and a QB in the shotgun with a lone running back. They’re about 90% power run game with the QB always off the option to the halfback. I’m curious, How common is this and are they any college teams that they perhaps took some inspiration from that do this?

28 Comments
2024/11/07
20:05 UTC

11

Formations

I want to learn all formations offensively and defensively. I know some, and I know roughly how to identify some things. But I want to learn formations and understand what they are and why they are used. What should I do to accomplish this?

9 Comments
2024/11/07
15:58 UTC

5

CHALK TALK THURSDAYS: Submit your plays for discussion and critique here.

Welcome to Chalk Talk Thursday! This is our weekly discussion thread for users to submit new plays they have designed. If you have an idea for a play and can draw it up, please post here. Keep in mind that it is very rare that one could devise a viable play that is entirely new that hasn't been ran before somewhere. Be open to criticism as well. There is so much more to coaching football than drawing plays, and many people do not realize how much coaching, technique, and development needs to happen on the actual field for a play to work.

It is strongly recommended that you STUDY a system or scheme first to gain an idea of how a play is put together, and how RULES help a play function.

PLEASE PROVIDE CONTEXT FOR YOUR PLAY!

Guidelines:

  • No "joke" plays. We are here to learn.
  • Specify WHY you are designing a play, and WHAT level/league it is for. It's fine if you're not coaching, but we need the context.
  • Your submission needs RULES that guide your players on what to do.
  • Pass plays require some type of QB progression for making a decision on who to throw to.
  • Be mindful that you cannot predict what your opponent will run 100%. Designing plays to be "Cover X" beaters, or "3-4 beaters" IS NOT the way to go about it. It is better to have one play with solid rules and coaching points that can attack anything than one play for each coverage, front, personnel, or stunt you face.
  • There is no universal terminology in football. Call plays what you want, but keep in mind that no one cares about fancy play names, or the terminology aspect.
  • Please offer more text/information on your play than just a link or picture.
  • Draw your play up against a realistic opponent!
  • Make sure your offensive play is a legal formation. In 11-man football, you can have no more than 4 players behind the line of scrimmage (minimum of 7 on. You can have more than 7 on the line as well). Only backs (players behind the line) and the end players on the line of scrimmage are eligible receivers.

You may use whatever medium you'd like to draw your play. Two common software for designing plays that have free options:

11 Comments
2024/11/07
15:00 UTC

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[DAILY OFF TOPIC THREAD]

Welcome to the Daily Off Topic Thread. In this thread we are going to permit off-topic conversations that do not fit the general content of the sub. Here is what this sub can be used for:

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  • By Off Topic, I mean Off Topic. Feel free to share or comment about other topics
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1 Comment
2024/11/07
14:01 UTC

9

Play Calling

Hi i have taken over the job of DC after Playing as a MLB in Europa.

I played in this team that im coaching last year and had a realy simple Playbook and play calling i am building on it and expanding it because it was to simple for us.

Now to the problem i have about 4-5 formations for Linebacker and D-Line, Whole plays for the specific Formation, Blitzes that work in almost every Formation and Coverages that work in every formation.

I dont really know how to call the plays in from the sideline because i can call almost everything, i can say the play once and next play just change the formation and everything the same.

I thougt about Coloured numbers and hold like three up at every time or for fomation and coveradge hand sings and blizes and whole plays numbers

Thank you for reading so far and i appreciate every help i can get.

4 Comments
2024/11/07
08:28 UTC

279

Is Brady right - does NFL have a QB development problem? And is the league dumbed down?

So Tom Brady, a few months ago, had a well publicized interview in which he said the NFL doesn't develop QBs anymore, and has dumbed down the game in order to get these guys on the field sooner (my words, paraphrasing what he said). What do you guys think?

I agree with him 50% - the NFL, for many reasons, does not have the patience to develop QBs anymore (or most positions). With limited roster sizes and no minor league or developmental league (the UFL is not a minor league for NFL clubs), it's somewhat impractical to stow players on your roster with thoughts of development, when realistically there are no game reps for them to gain experience in anyways - that, to me, is why so few clubs truly develop QBs now - the Michael Penix and Jordan Love type of stories are getting quite rare.

On the flip side, I disagree with him when he says the game is dumbed down. I'd say compared to 20 years ago, the volume of passing concepts, the reliance on drop back passing game, and the diversity of coverages has increased extremely quickly. I think this is true on the college level as well, which is partially why NFL teams have tried to see if guys are ready immediately. Young QBs have such early access to so much information (for better or worse), like coverages and concepts and analysis on youtube, etc, they are very, very smart. That's not to say there aren't simplified offenses, even in pass heavy schemes, there definitely are, but I'd say on the whole, QBs now are asked to do a lot of pre-snap and post-snap decision making even with the sideline based, check with me offenses that don't huddle anymore.

Anyone else have thoughts? I certainly don't claim to be right or factual, this is just my observation/opinion.

194 Comments
2024/11/06
23:57 UTC

222

I love seeing Wing-T plays show up on Sundays!

30 Comments
2024/11/06
17:10 UTC

2

Self-Promo Wednesdays: Promote your blog, channel, site, or educational resources here.

A new rule of /r/footballstrategy is no spamming or blog/site/channel pushing. While it's fine to refer folks to these resource in comments, we want to contain the self-promotion. Welcome to Self-Promo Wednesdays. Here you can promote your website, channel, blog, or other form of media-based platform as long as it pertains to football strategy, coaching, or overall education of the game. You may also suggest or promote others here as well.

0 Comments
2024/11/06
15:01 UTC

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[DAILY OFF TOPIC THREAD]

Welcome to the Daily Off Topic Thread. In this thread we are going to permit off-topic conversations that do not fit the general content of the sub. Here is what this sub can be used for:

  • Play Designs (normally in violation of Rule 11)
  • Players asking for technical advice and tips WITH VIDEO. VIDEO IS REQUIRED.
  • Lighter, off topic conversations adjacent to football, but do not necessarily fall under the coaching or strategy of the game.
  • Equipment questions
  • By Off Topic, I mean Off Topic. Feel free to share or comment about other topics
  • Product promotion that can clearly not be seen as link spamming or karma farming

Here is what's not allowed:

  • Random pictures of your "drip" or pics of your body (I see this a lot in smaller football subs)
  • NSFW content, extensive swearing, and any content violating reddit rules
  • Violation of sub rules and question that are answered in the HS/Youth Player FAQ
  • It's listed in the sub rules too, but it has to be stressed: Be genuine. If you're here to argue, please go elsewhere.
  • Link and promo spamming (do not be posting every single day)

PLEASE make use of these resources below before you post:

SUBREDDIT RULES LINK

HIGH SCHOOL AND YOUTH PLAYERS FAQ LINK

WIKI LINK

7 Comments
2024/11/06
14:01 UTC

10

How do I use my physical advantages as a corner

I’m a 6’ upcoming senior corner thats 170 pounds how do I use my physical assets if I’m benching 235 and squatting around 250 but I only run a 4.7 40 most plays we run are cover 3, cover 2 zone cover 1 and sometimes cover 4. Also what can I do in the off season with practice starting back in two weeks to become cb1

38 Comments
2024/11/06
04:40 UTC

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