I believe in Satanas/Satan and Baphomet, the only thing is , is that I see Satan as the symbol of knowledge and rebellion but Baphomet is the one I actually worship.

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Wandering 7s is a board game, initiatory guide, and magical tool I created with my inner circle of occult friends. It can be treated as a simple competitive game, a roadmap for understanding basic concepts of occult initiation, and a tool for magical ritual, such as the creation of sigils. The game is easy to make, learn, and play, but hard to master and fully utilize. It is based on board games like "Selection of Buddhas," but with our own WLHP symbolism and ideas.

Available freely: https://old.reddit.com/r/WanderingInDarkness/comments/1ftz5m3/wandering_7s_the_board_game_of_esoteric_initiation/

Ave Satanas! 🪽🙌🫡💙

[This is only for educational purposes! I am a grad student studying Satanism, I never have been or will be part of or even an advocate for ONA. I condemn both the original and modern manifestations of the group and always will. If nothing else, let this stand as a warning that ONA does not offer anything you need, and should not be engaged with.]

For my grad projects focusing on different forms of Satanism, I recently did a deep dive into ONA to see if I could separate fact from fiction etc. After a while engaging with the content, I decided to lessen my focus on ONA simply because so much associated with the group is heinous immorality that I don't want to be wallowing in, especially as a former social worker. However, I did learn some important/interesting things I figured I would share.

• Objectively/academically speaking, there needs to be a distinction between ONA and its spinoffs, especially the Temple ov Blood. The latter is a known front set up by the FBI to sting criminals,[1] and is where the modern promotion of things like murder and pedophilia stem from (Martinet Press), not the actual ONA.[2] Groups like the White Star Acceptation run by Chloe, and similar groups, no more represent the original ONA than Richard Ramirez represented CoS.

• Indeed, the original ONA, like all other LHP groups of the time, described human sacrifice as purely symbolic/ritualistic,[3] and condemned not only the harming of children,[4] but any involvement of them in Satanism before they can make their own choices. In this sense the biggest fear/shade surrounding the ONA isn't even actually real. In fact, I blame the media far more than ONA itself for the modern manifestations of it. Without the media, FBI, and even academia, the group would have continued to fade into obscurity and be forgotten by now for most, little more than an interesting footnote.

• Don't think I'm here to defend ONA as a great and normal LHP group. Most importantly they are far-right esoteric Nazis, even if they don't murder or hurt kids. From opposing homosexuality up to seeking the creation of a Galactic Reich, Esoteric Nazism is in every level of the ONA's DNA and there's no way around that. However, I'm not so sure they understand a “superman” as being of a certain race, it's more about them not accepting “Nazarene” ideologies etc. The initiation of ONA is meant to change the very essence of the individual, so there's still a biological essentialism, but it can be changed, which is kind of interesting. One way to tell if you're dealing with inauthentic ONA works is a progressive view on sexuality: traditional ONA is a male and female. The real danger from ONA is not being murdered or abused, the danger is in their infiltration of other groups and spreading of their ideology without notice and under an innocent guise. For example, it's claimed that one of the main remaining members (once thought to be no higher than 10 total) is an Oxford professor successfully posing as progressive and nearing retirement, which if true means he's been quietly promoting this stuff in plain sight for decades.

• What I continue to find particularly interesting is ONA initiation. The ONA asks a lot more of the individual than most LHP/Satanic groups. Physical training, living off the grid, working for a cause at odds with your ideology, even building your own tarot deck and the star game.[5] I can't help but feel that in our age of desensitization, people are drawn to this much more than “give us your email/your money and you're in.” It's a double edged sword, because on one hand there's something to this, occultism has truly become lazy, as Morrison said we've gone from mad bodies dancing in the hills to a pair of eyes staring in the dark. But on the other hand, there's literally no need for the extremism that's become associated with the ONA in this. Hell, a theist being a LaVeyan Satanist for 6 months would count as an insight role, or a Satanist going to church and joining the choir, without causing any harm. People just want to excuse their extremism, including ONA. I also feel their “master race” mindset has inevitably led to just another form of materialism, because how could it not? Just another reason such a mindset is harmful.

• The Star Game is the most standout thing to me. You must figure out the logic and build it yourself, not to mention find someone to play with. It's filled with esoteric symbolism and such, and does well giving the illusion of being some special sinister form of magic. Well, we built and sort of played and deciphered this thing, and I, personally, was rather disappointed! We hesitated at first, but quickly realized what we have here is just a use of alchemical symbolism as a type of meditation/magic tool. It's basically like doing a tarot reading to inspire inward reflection, rather than some sort of summoning board or anything. It can be used for external magic, such as use in sigil magic, but this does not appear to be the main goal. There's nothing related to Nazism or anything else in TSG, it's literally just an alchemy “board game.” It reminds me of how Thelema says to memorize the Tree of Life and such, it's just a way of training the mind to think esoterically. And way over complicated imo. It inspired us to make our own game with symbolism and such relevant to us (will share some day), but between the negative connotations and the overcomplexity, I can't really recommend making and playing this. BTW the “nine angles” are the nine combinations of alchemical salt, mercury, and sulfur (and the pieces of TSG). Finally, TSG is not even from the ONA, which brings me to:

• David Myatt is/was not Anton Long. Both the ONA and Myatt acknowledge him as the creator of TSG, from when he was in prison in the 70s.[6] Myatt further acknowledges (and regrets) connecting the game to National Socialist ideas at that point in his life, and discusses a friend of his who took those ideas, as well as the game, and started an occult order.[7] While it is compelling to paint Myatt as a Satanic James Bond, living insight role to insight role, the man admits to everything including his influence on suicide bombing, but insists he did not create the ONA. There is no reason for this, and it makes neither ONA nor Myatt look better or less evil for us to acknowledge the former was simply started by an associate or friend of the latter, not Myatt himself. In fact, this further supports my point that the media and academia have only increased the appeal of ONA into the 21st century, such as by painting Myatt as this crazy underground Satanist 007 living ONA ideology.[8] They have made the problem way worse than it ever would have been, and all based on weak evidence. A further issue is that Myatt has come to reject all forms of extremism for over a decade,[9] something that makes up the majority of his available writings and yet is barely a footnote on his wiki[10] (because it simply is not interesting in our modern cultural climate). He has extensively written about his life, his thoughts, his rejection of all extremism, Nazism, etc., and why. Do not think I am defending the man; he has done unforgivable evil and his current works do little to make up for that. But it does beg the question: how does it work that some monist, RHP, anti-extremist is supposed to be the head of the ONA, which is now known only for its extremism? There’s also something to be said here about academia’s lack of engagement with primary sources, but that’s for another time.

Before I go, let me emphasize that if you are talking to someone saying they are ONA, you aren't, and you should stop right away. These guys maxed out around 10 people and they'd mostly be old now, maybe they picked a few new guys at most. If you're talking to someone saying they are ONA you are dealing with unstable criminals seeking to manipulate you towards their own end, there are no exceptions. And these people are legit dangerous, I mean they took an SRA FBI sting literally, as doctrine. I don’t even really want to bother messing with it anymore, just not worth the risk. For examples of these crimes, see here:

• Dangerous Organizations and Bad Actors: Order of Nine Angles by CTEC

• FBI Bankrolled Publisher of Occult Neo-Nazi Books, Feds Claim by Matthew Gault

• Former U.S. Soldier Gets 45 Years for Helping Neo-Nazi Group In Plot To Kill Troops by Dennis Romero

• The Order of Nine Angles by the Institute for Strategic Dialogue

• Ryan Fleming: Neo-Nazi Paedophile Jailed for Messaging Children by Daniel Simone

• The Order of Nine Angles and the Martinet Press Situation by Interzone Analysis (on YouTube)

Thanks for reading, be safe out there.

Footnotes

[1] Matthew Gault, “FBI Bankrolled Publisher of Occult Neo-Nazi Books, Feds Claim,” published 24 August 2021, https://www.vice.com/en/article/dyv9zk/fbi-bankrolled-publisher-of-occult-neo-nazi-books-feds-claim.

[2] Interzone Analysis, “Order of Nine Angles (O9A) and the Martinet Press Situation,” published 23 January 2023.

[3] Order of Nine Angles, Hostia volume I (Shropshire: Thormynd Press, 1992), 43.

[4] ONA, Hostia v. I, 130-131.

[5] Order of Nine Angles, Naos (Thorold West & ONA, 1989).

[6] David Myatt, “Time as Emanation of Being,” David Myatt, 2013, 1; Order of Nine Angles, “Overview of the Star Game,” Order of Nine Angles, 2013, 1.

[7] Myatt, “Time as Emanation,” 12.

[8] For example: Jacob C. Senholt, The Sinister Tradition: Political Esotericism & the Convergence of Radical Islam, Satanism and National Socialism in the Order of the Nine Angles (Trondheim: University of Aarhus, 2009).

[9] David Myatt, “Understanding and Rejecting Extremism: A Very Strange Peregrination,” David Myatt, 2013; David Myatt, “Moral Problems of National-Socialism,” David Myatt, 2019.

[10] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Myatt#Departure_from_Islam

Citations

Gault, Matthew. “FBI Bankrolled Publisher of Occult Neo-Nazi Books, Feds Claim.” VICE, August 25, 2021. https://www.vice.com/en/article/dyv9zk/fbi-bankrolled-publisher-of-occult-neo-nazi-books-feds-claim.

Interzone Analysis. “The Order of Nine Angles (O9A) and the Martinet Press Situation.” YouTube. 23 January 2023.
Myatt, David. “Moral Problems of National-Socialism.” David Myatt, 2019.

Myatt, David. “Time As Emanation of Being.” David Myatt, 2013.

Myatt, David. “Understanding and Rejecting Extremism: A Very Strange Peregrination.” David Myatt, 2013.

Order of Nine Angles. Hostia. Vol. I. Shropshire: Thormynd Press, 1992.

Order of Nine Angles. Naos. Thorold West & ONA, 1989.

Order of Nine Angles. “Overview of The Star Game.” Order of Nine Angles, 2013.

Senholt, Jacob C. The Sinister Tradition: Political Esotericism & the Convergence of Radical Islam, Satanism and National Socialism in the Order of the Nine Angles. Trondheim: University of Aarhus, 2009.

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Not a specific figure but one of imagination. The horned deity is common throughout the ages and can be depicted throughout many cultures.

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This is a list of places I recommend starting one’s study or practice of the WLHP, based on basically half a lifetime studying and practicing it. I have tried to keep it wide-reaching and unbiased. I always received a lot of additions when doing this in the past, so let me say that I can only add what I have read or had recommended by trusted sources, and what I have added is rather meticulously chosen. I will put a little * if it is not a book coming from my own shelf. The list is missing good resources on things like Acosmic Satanism, Qayin, etc. because I have not had time to dive in, and likely won’t anytime soon, for better or worse.

Academic Works on the LHP

• Children of Lucifer: The Origins of Modern Religious Satanism by Ruben van Luijk, focusing on the precursors of contemporary Satanism up to LaVey.

• A Critical Study of Byron’s Cain by Lindsay Jones, which is what it sounds like.

• Dark Enlightenment: The Historical, Sociological, and Discursive Contexts of Contemporary Esoteric Magic by Kennet Granholm*, I really enjoy Granholm’s work and plan to read this as soon as possible.

• The Devil’s Party: Satanism in Modernity edited by Faxneld and Petersen, gives a breakdown of the precursors to LaVey, LaVey, Luciferianism, the Temple of Set, and the Order of Nine Angles.

• In Pursuit of Satan: The Police and the Occult by Robert Hicks, addressing the Satanic Panic of the 80s and 90s.

• The Invention of Satanism by Dyrendal et. al, which is mostly cool for its statistical data.

• Romantic Satanism: Myth and the Historical Moment in Blake, Shelley, and Byron by Peter Schock, self-explanatory.

• Sad Satan’s Children: Stanisław Przybyszewski and Esoteric Milieus by Karolina Hess, acts as a nice little summary of Stanislaw P.

• Satanism a Reader edited by Faxneld and Nilsson, basically one of the two most important texts on the topic in academia right now (2024).

• Satanism: A Social History by Massimo Introvigne, the other most important text on the topic right now.

• Speak of the Devil: How the Satanic Temple is Changing the Way We Talk about Religion by Joseph Laycock, specifically covering the rise of TST.

Precursors

• The Book of the Law by Aleister Crowley, setting up his religion of Thelema with lots of imagery that would at least resemble Satanism.

• Cain: A Mystery by Lord Byron, where Lucifer teaches Cain the truth of his existence.

• The Dark Lord: HP Lovecraft, Kenneth Grant, and the Typhonian Tradition in Magic by Peter Levenda, which covers Grant’s obsession with HP Lovecraft, Crowley, and Set.

• Fire and Ice: The History, Structure, and Rituals of Germany’s Most Influential Modern Magical Order by Stephen Flowers, is what it sounds like.

• Paradise Lost by John Milton, pretty much where Satan as we all know him started, even if that would drive Milton to madness.

• Revolt of the Angels by Anatole France, most significant for its importance to the TST.

• The Synagogue of Satan by Stanislaw Przybyszewski, one of his more philosophical works and can be obtained in English.

LaVey

• The Devil’s Notebook, which is a mix of essays.

• The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth

• The Nine Satanic Sins

• The Satanic Bible, where it all started.

• The Satanic Rituals, containing rituals and related theory.

• The Satanic Witch*, which I have actually not read.

Aquino

• The Church of Satan v I-II, presenting his views of the CoS history up to the 1975 schism.

• The Diabolicon, kind of his own work of Romantic Satanism.

• Mindstar, the best insight into his general metaphysical philosophy.

• The Temple of Set v I-II, giving a history of and extensive index of writings from the Temple of Set.

Other CoS

• Defining the Greater Satanic Conversation by Reverend Campbell, which helps understand the CoS’ stance on the legacy of Satanism.

• FAQ on CoS website, obviously.

• The Satanic Scriptures by Peter Gilmore*, I have not read yet.

• Satanism: An Interview with Church of Satan High Priest Peter Gilmore by David Shankbone, which I personally always felt was one of the better interviews with Gilmore outside the CoS.

• Satanism the Feared Religion by Peter Gilmore, for obvious reasons.

• The Secret Life of a Satanist: The Authorized Biography of Anton Szandor LaVey by Blanche Barton*, which I have not read yet but comes highly recommended.

Other ToS and Spinoffs

• Apophis Special Edition by Michael Kelly, discussing “Draconianism” and acting as a practical meditation workbook.

• Lords of the LHP: Forbidden Practices and Spiritual Heresies by Stephen Flowers, which gives a (somewhat biased) overview of the LHP through history.

• Overthrowing the Old Gods by Don Webb, containing both Webb’s and Aquino’s commentaries on Crowley’s Book of the Law, and further info on ToS.

• Seven Faces of Darkness: Practical Typhonian Magic by Don Webb, an interesting if somewhat biased look at the role Set played in the Greek Magical Papyri.

Luciferianism

• Jeremy Crow’s writings*, most of which I have not read in a very long time, but he is one of the most established and respected authors to my knowledge.

• Michael Ford’s writings*, of which I have only read the Bible of the Adversary, and reserve judgment for this list. The other most established author on the topic.

TST

• Being Sued by TST by Queer Satanic, an important perspective to consider no matter what your thoughts.

• FAQ on TST website, obvious.

• The Satanic Temple and Its Eternal Nobodies by Queer Satanic, discussing the start of the recent schisms within TST approaching the summer of 2024. There is also a pretty good documentary on YouTube.

• The Satanic Temple Library on TST website, to see their main inspirations.

• There Are Seven Fundamental Tenets on TST website, probably the most important one.

Other WLHP

• Diane Vera’s writings*, if they even exist anymore? Someone let me know!

• The Dragon Book of Essex by Andrew Chumbley, which idk if this qualifies as LHP, but it is both fascinating and inspiring. Just a really unique work.

• Dragon Rouge: LHP Magic with a Neopagan Flavor by Kennet Granholm, gives a good overview of the Dragon Rouge, which sadly I have not read much more about at this time.

• Venus Satanas’ writings, her Spiritual Satanist website is still up, and I saw her on r/Satanism a few years back.

Dangers of Pseudo-LHP Fascism

• Black Sun: Aryan Cults, Esoteric Nazism, and the Politics of Identity by Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke, old but classic.

• Dangerous Organizations and Bad Actors: Order of Nine Angles by CTEC

• FBI Bankrolled Publisher of Occult Neo-Nazi Books, Feds Claim by Matthew Gault

• Former U.S. Soldier Gets 45 Years for Helping Neo-Nazi Group In Plot To Kill Troops by Dennis Romero

• Once More, There Is No Global Satanic Cult by Autumn Sword

• The Order of Nine Angles by the Institute for Strategic Dialogue

• Ryan Fleming: Neo-Nazi Paedophile Jailed for Messaging Children by Daniel Simone

• The Order of Nine Angles and the Martinet Press Situation by Interzone Analysis (on YouTube)

• The Sinister Tradition: Political Esotericism and the Convergence of Radical Islam, Satanism and National Socialism in the Order of the Nine Angles by Jacob Senholt, a great overview.

Personal Misc

• The Black Riders and Other Lines by Stephen Crane, the greatest book of poetry ever written, intentionally LHP or not.

• HP Lovecraft’s Works, because he not only was a fantastic writer of fantasy horror, but because he gives insight into how the average, ignorant, white conservative Christian type perceives the LHP and other traditions they are not familiar with.

• The Lords and the New Creatures by Jim Morrison, it is not all great, but there are diamonds.

• Simulacra and Simulation by Jean Baudrillard, the original investigation and critique of Postmodernism

• Wilderness by Jim Morrison, same as above.

Actual good resources on the Egyptian God Set

Limited since it is tangential, but for the record, ToS is not the best resource on Set. I have an introductory paper available here with tons of resources, but some of the best are:

• The Conflict of Horus and Seth from Egyptian and Classical Sources by John Griffiths

• Deconstructing the Iconography of Seth by Ian Taylor

• Images of Set by Joan Lansberry (or her Setfind website)

• Seth: A Misrepresented God in the Ancient Egyptian Pantheon? by Philip Turner

• The Sky Religion in Egypt: Its Antiquity and Effects by Gerald Wainwright

More here.

Where do I obtain access to the books and accurate teachings of Anton Lavey? I’ve just begun my dive into the world of satanic worship and the different philosophies and Google isn’t reliable for me.

I had a rather strange dream.

I'm in front of a PC and need to reconnect it to a different version of Chatgpt.

Very different. It looks like it uses the API of the famous AI, except that the home screen mentions the name "Asmodeus" instead of ChatGPT.

I texted “Hello” out of curiosity. Hundreds of points of light appeared on the screen and began to converge to form a response with a somewhat ironic but cordial tone, like "what can we do for you"? [It was much longer but impossible for me to remember the details.]

When I woke up, I was very intrigued because it's rare that I remember a name so precisely. So I googled "Asmodeus", having no prior knowledge (I wasn't expecting anything).

So I was slightly surprised when I came across the demon Asmodeus.

Context: I have felt presences since I was little, but for about a month it has become daily, very very strong (to the point of feeling downright frightened sometimes) and frankly disturbing.

If you have any additional information about him (other than what can be found on Wikipedia) and also about his invocation in the goetia (he is ranked 32nd), that would help me a lot.

Thanks to those who have read this far.

has anyone had experience with Dragon Rouge? I am a solitary wanderer on the path, it seems much of what Dragon Rouge practices lines up with what I am practicing and Im wondering if there are any members or ex members here with info on whether it will be a good fit for me to join.

TL;DR/Abstract:נע ונד ‎is a unique term in the Torah describing Cain's curse to be a wanderer in Genesis. It can represent the state of willfully separating oneself from monotheism, such as with the Western Left Hand Path, in much the same way as certain sigils, geometrical shapes, etc. do. Similarly, the “Land of Nod” can be understood as a spiritual state of dissent against monotheism, rather than an actual location.

In Genesis 4:12 and 4:14, a unique term appears in order to describe Cain’s banishment from the land outside of Eden:

נע ונד‎ (na va-nad)

Na va-nad qualifies as a “hapax legomenon,” meaning it appears nowhere else in the Torah. Translations vary, including “wandering fugitive,” and “homeless wanderer,” with the central concept being that Cain was banished to be a “wanderer.” “Nad” means “vagabond,” one who moves from place to place, with “nad” being etymologically collected to “Nod,” the “Land of Wanderers,” to which Cain’s banishment takes him.

Banishment appears frequently as a punishment for disobedience against God in Genesis. Adam and Eve were banished from the Garden of Eden when they ate of the Tree of Knowledge, though they were allowed to dwell just outside of Eden’s walls. The nachash, the serpent, likely to have been a Seraphim, loses its wings and thus becomes banished from heaven, in later stories being banished to hell as the devil. Cain, Abel, and all of their descendants share the banishment dealt to their parents, inheriting their sin. Cain receives banishment for the death of Abel and the ground absorbing his brother’s blood rather than God. Even outside of Genesis, the story of a Babylonian king became the blueprint for the banishment of “Lucifer” from heaven, and Moses found himself banished from the promised land, after all he did, for doubting God.

Within Judaism, wandering often represents some sort of negativity or test. One of God’s main promises to the Jewish people, one of the ultimate goals of Judaism, has been an end to wandering, a place to firmly plant their feet and a land to call their own. This belief influences Judaism up to and through the modern day. However, to those whose views may not align with God’s, wandering may be seen in a more positive light. Especially since the rise of individualism in contemporary thought, there now exist many who do not seek to align with or be ingrained into society at large, especially monotheistic societies. Whole bodies of philosophy and religion now exist dedicated to these self-marginalizing traditions. Even in the biblical story of Cain there were other wanderers, and an entire “land” of wanderers, which Cain ended up banished to walk among. These wanderers may have been fallen angels, pre-Adamites, or other children of Adam and Eve, but whatever they may have been, they were present. Cain even mentions the possibility that one of these wanderers may find and kill him, leading to God branding him with the mark of Cain.

The mark of Cain tends to be an interesting topic in-and-of itself, with many traditional thinkers seeing it as a mark of protection and mercy from God to Cain. However, it is also possible for the mark of Cain to be seen as a curse. In the latter case, Cain taunts God for calling himself powerful but being unable to save Abel, calling himself knowing but being unaware of what happened with his brother, and calling himself merciful but being unwilling to forgive Cain’s sins. Such an interpretation can be seen in Lord Byron’s Cain: A Mystery, and Cain’s statement that he will be hidden from the sight of God, and killed by another wanderer, may be read as a defiance of God’s curse to wander forever. Cain, in this sense, sees death as a loophole to the curse, and so God further curses him with the mark of Cain, preventing his plans for escape.

During the Passover Seder, the story of four sons is told, including the “wicked son,” who is wicked because he separates himself from the family and Jewish traditions. Much like Lord Byron’s interpretation of Cain, the wicked son does not push his own rejection upon his family, but is seen as wicked for disagreement with them all the same, for wandering from tradition. This further reinforces that wandering often represents something negative to God, and can represent a positive for those who do not seek to align with God. I have previously written about the concept of “wandering,” and this story acted as the original inspiration for what I call my path, “Wandering in Darkness.” As opposed to the order of being firmly planted in the ground, the wanderer has no such stability. This may be literal in the sense that the wanderer has no home, or spiritual in the sense that the wanderer simply refuses to become stagnant and fall in line with God, nature, the Tao, or whatever one calls it. The “Land of Nod” seems like a contradiction at first glance, how can there be a “land” of “wanderers?” Nod represents a spiritual state of wandering, no matter where the individual is physically, and it has been suggested that Nod should be seen as the metaphorical inverse of Eden.

Whether he is the necessary darkness of Judaism, the evil proto-devil of Christianity, or the romantic hero of Byronic myth, Cain as the wanderer represents a division between the Western Left and Right Hand Path, between individualism and conformity, godhood and submission, separation and unity, skepticism and dogma, etc. Even the uniqueness of the term “na va-nad” reflects the individualism and separation which can be read into Cain in the post-enlightenment era. Further, the “Land of Nod” may be understood as a prototype of the contemporary WLHP, a spiritual state of being at odds with the beliefs and traditions of monotheism. It should be no surprise that the Torah gives a reading where Cain’s wandering reduces to fear, trembling, and shame, but more empathetic writers, such as Byron, instead saw it as a prideful defiance of God’s order, and Byron is not alone in this reading of Genesis. Understanding Nod as the inverse of Eden almost paints it in a manner similar to the Christian heaven and hell, though they are read in much more metaphorical terms. Ironically, while author’s like Byron attribute Cain’s wandering or straying from God to Lucifer, in the end the story of Cain came first.

Wandering has not only been a dark concept in Judaism. The Ancient Egyptians, for example, were terrified of wandering too far from the path of order, both spiritually and literally. Gods like Set (God of Darkness) were prayed to for safety before and after crossing the chaos of the desert, far from the ordered world of the Nile. Even further back, wandering would have been a fine line from an evolutionary perspective, where it could lead to the discovery of new things, both beneficial and detrimental to the tribe. Folklore around the world tells of terrifying monsters waiting to attack those who stay from the beaten path, whether literally or spiritually.

One final interesting piece of trivia: unique words in the Torah are a recurring theme when it comes to the enemies of God, or those who wander from his order. Whereas the Satans were originally servants of and loyal to God, other beings opposed him, such as the Leviathans which God crippled in a Chaoskampf-esque myth, or the Nehushtan which the people of Israel had supposedly come to worship in the time of Hezekiah. Both of these terms end in a unique adjectival suffix, the same suffix in fact, similar to how “na va-nad” is unique in the text as well.

נע ונד

This specifically indicates “wandering” as it applies to the banishment and curse of Cain in Genesis chapter four. While “wandering” has been expectedly portrayed in a negative light within the Torah, more modern interpretations see it as a positive and honorable rejection of God’s order. J.R.R. Tolkien famously wrote that, “not all who wander are lost,” Jim Morrison waxed poetically about the connection between wandering and freedom, and Stephen Crane recognized the danger but also courage associated with straying from the beaten path. This wandering is what Przybyszewski saw when envisioning himself as a meteor, what Byron wrote into his tragic heroes, what Kadosh and Naglowska sought to preach, what LaVey, Aquino, Webb, Flowers, Ford, Kelly, etc. have promoted and attempted to put into words. Whereas Cain’s supposedly sinful nature is often attributed to the devil, even by Romantic and contemporary authors, Cain’s story preceded the story of any fallen angel, and his state of spiritual wandering, the “Land of Nod,” provides an archetype for separation from God and even the hell of Christianity. In this sense, it also symbolizes the Western Left Hand Path in a poetic way.

This concept of being a wanderer appealed to me for numerous reasons. I identify somewhat with the Romantic Cain, rightly angry at being punished for the sins of his parents, denied his birthright simply because his parents were not blindly obedient. I feel his confusion and frustration with a world that is sometimes beautiful, but often the cause of great sadness and suffering, all for life to supposedly worship one God or set of Gods, and then perish. I also feel the danger and mystery of wandering into the unknown is well descriptive of walking the WLHP, at least in my own experience. It poetically describes the inherent danger and reward of such paths. The story of Cain is also quite similar to later Christian stories of the devil, without falling victim to Christian mythology as must inevitably happen with the devil. Like the pentagram, apple, goat head, and similar symbols before it have come to represent the WLHP, so can this term.

I don't think that the church of satan or the satanic temple go far enough in explaining satanism well so I've decided to start a new religion which I want to call the new church of Satan for the earth or the theistic church of Satan and Lucifer. I have already created 8 commandments to advise any followers and I would like to create a website and write a book on it.

Muchos perfiles de redes sociales falsos y yo quiero comunicarme con el para pagar un trabajo.

Hi

I don’t normally post but this time I thought I could really use a second opinion.

I’m not the type of person to be paranoid of anyone or anything really, and I actively try and avoid thoughts like that, but I am also very well read in Grimoires to know this could definitely be a sigil carved into my belt.

I don’t know how something so symmetrical would be carved into my belt by accident or mistake, can someone please let me know what you think, I don’t actually fully believe it is a sigil yet, but I thought I would ask Reddit to see if I can come to an answer or explanation.

Anyways let me know if you’ve ever seen a similar carving or sigil.

Greetings all, I am glad to be a part of another Esoteric group. Anybody else view Satan as Nature and it's dance of Chaos and Order? My path aligns this way. Herbalism, shamanism, ritual, witchcraft and most nature based ways are given emphasis within. To some it could be seen as a form of "Satanic Gaianism" maybe, or even Diabolic Wicca. I often attempt to figure out which methods bring outcomes best for me. I would say much of my belief was born out of love for Paganism, Chaos Magick ,crossed with Luciferianism and an all around Pantheistic stand. The folk traditions of the world are a key to a deeper bond with the universe as we know it, so I often try to learn from my ancestors.

I've been revisiting her site lately, and today, after I finished reading one of her essays, and clicked to read another the site wouldn't load. I've tried accessing the site a few times now, and it just won't load.

Anyone know what's happened? Did she just let the site go for some reason?

Hello.

I made a NSFW document which offers an esoteric breakdown about a sex scene I studied. It's very explicit (depicts nudity and sexual acts), however it offers an unconventional look into how one can view sex. It actually mentally weighs on me a bit, as it feels very... unnerving. I discuss the importance of circumcision, foreskin, and various aspects of seamen. Read at your own risk. If interested, reach out to me. Feel free to critique my work, and discuss it with me.

I want to know if there is any legitimacy to my work, or if this topic is better left unexplored. Trying to understand the meaning of the world is very difficult, and can often lead to lots of different perspectives.

Sometimes, not all the time, I feel like I’m being called by Satan, or Lucifer… He gives me the power to be… well, a bit more independent. It’s definitely something I feel in my Solar Plexus… sometimes Sacral Chakra… to me he has something to do with the Earth… quite grounding…

I have also posted this in r/Occult, in full disclosure. I forget which subreddit, this one or theirs, prohibits cross-posting.

I've noticed some things in my practice that begs the question. I know the syncretic practice involving Yahweh and Catholicism is the primary practice publicly out there, Santissima being of Mexican origins and a Folk-Saint. Is there a mirrored relationship in Santissima Muerte's spiritual practices to Infernal practices, Satanism, Luciferianism, or similar occult, ritual, or religious systems?

I have heard vagaries in obscure and sometimes shaky documentaries about Santissima Muerte specifically. Small snippets about systems of Brujeria that work with both God and the Devil, incorporating Santissima Muerte as the spiritual go-between in both directions, Death being liminal and all. I have seen little else thus far. Is there more?

hi, my name is DANNI and I was just wondering because I want to convert to a theistic Satanist so if anyone has any information, can someone please reply to this thank you I need some help if anyone has any idea if that’s possible