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/r/c137
I'm sure there have been people that have communicated what I'm going to lay out here but I have all this rattling around in my head and I just wanted to clearly get it out. I think we have received enough info from the 7 seasons of Rick and Morty to put together a complete picture of Rick's life and the world he lives in. Im just going to state this all outright and will support with details as it goes on.
Some basic points to start of with:
Rick Prime is *the* Rick Sanchez. He is real Rick, a genius who invents interdimensional travel. This power, when contained to himself, effectively makes him a God. It consumes him, as his world is turned upside down and he begins to realize the possibilities. He can seed many versions of himself with this technology and create a system to make himself the most powerful being in the multiverse. The reality of this technology erodes the relationship he had with Diane. Whether she no longer wanted to be with him due to his emerging megalomania, or if he left her due to his descent into psychopathy is still unclear (it seems from Beth stating how Rick left her and her mom it is likely the latter), but we know one thing for sure. He hates Diane. Things did not end well between them and he channels this hatred into everything he does. In the final scenes of his last appearance, we can see he assembled gigantic machines in her image, and a labyrinth of tests for any Rick still searching for her. This is not the behavior of someone who no longer cares for her, or even of someone who is just trying to get back at those who refused his offer. He has been completely consumed by his hatred and psychopathy and he no longer bares any resemblance to the man he was before creating the portal gun. If it were my best guess, I would say Rick Prime wanted to travel the multiverse with Diane, and she said no. And his hatred of Rick C-137 is a product of his anger towards Diane's rejection. C-137's choice being identical to Diane's serves as a reminder of that pain. A pain that he is constantly battling against to prove that his choice was better than DIane's.
Rick C-137 represents the version of Rick that put his family first. That chose to put aside his ambition in favor of those he loves. We often see this show represent the "infinite versions" in the form of an outlier. At jerryboree, it is shown that there is one case where beth remarries. At the citadel, it is shown that there is one "slow rick". With morty, there is one very intelligent one. And there are other cases of this as well, they represent the infinity of possibilities by creating a spectrum that conforms to a theme and then including an outlier to portray the existence of other possibilities. Rick C-137 is the "good rick". The "protagonist Rick". And when Rick Prime encounters him, he feels both offended and threatened by his choice. So he takes away his precious family as a reminder that he is in charge, he is the ultimate Rick. But more than that, Rick Prime wanted to prove to himself that all Ricks are the same (this is a psychological necessity, he must feel certain that all Ricks are like him to justify his actions. If a better Rick existed, he would have to face the reality of his psychopathy and what he did to Diane)
It is shown time and time again just how caring and sensitive our Rick can be, even though he tries so hard to deny it. Perhaps the clearest example is during the detoxification episode where we see the parts of Rick and Morty that were removed by the machine. The machine removes what the individual thinks is toxic, and we can see a clear difference in perception of toxicity between Rick and Morty. Morty becomes a "little american psycho", as he sees his emotion and empathy as weakness. Rick however becomes an extraordinarily good person. Morty even says as much: "You're a better man than me Rick, and I'm healthy enough to admit that". This shows that Rick *knows* how toxic he is. He knows every trait that makes him a bad person. And this is a fundamental part of his character. He knows just how evil and awful he can be and he HATES himself for it.
Rick Prime's actions permanently traumatized C-137 and pushed him into the arms of nihilism. Why would he care about Beth, Jerry, or even Morty and Summer when none of them are even a part of his reality? They are all as equally unreal to him as every Glip Glop and Gazorpian he encounters on his travels. To him, the only real thing in the entire multiverse is his battle with Rick Prime. It pushed him to create the portal gun, to travel across the stars, and to develop the reputation he acquired before crashing into Rick Prime's reality at the start of the series. We can see this so clearly in season 1. The very first episode, Rick got drunk and wanted to just destroy the whole reality. He built a neutrino bomb and everything. He had no intention of sticking around as a long term family member, and we can even see his carelessness in episode 6 turned the whole world into monsters with no remorse. But of course, since he is fundamentally a good Rick, he continues to get more attached despite his full effort not to. He is afraid to get attached to anyone, and is afraid to be happy. Just look at the subtleties of the toilet episode. He is simultaneously a deeply caring person who is hellbent on avoiding making connections to others. This is a very common trait of someone who has went through this kind of trauma, especially at the hands of a psychopath who will stop at nothing short of deleting everyone you care about from the multiverse just to justify their complete isolation. And we can see a big reflection of his psychology in the vindicators episode. Doesn't play well with others, super power is also a burden, uses power responsibly, never gives up, tragic origin. He went through such measures not to prove a point to the vindicators, or to convince Morty that nothing has meaning, but because he was angry at himself that he is not a role model for Morty and was jealous the vindicators earned that role. He was setting out to deconstruct Morty's idols to show they're not that different from him.
In the end, our Rick represents the very best of Rick Prime, the parts that he denied in himself and focused all his energy into destroying. Rick C-137 is thus trapped in a game that never ends. There is no victory or light at the end of the tunnel, even if he wins he loses. He is the perfect anti-hero, the inflection point of his life comparable to a Walter White breaking bad moment. He hates himself, hates the world, and wants to die. But he is absolutely terrified of dying. So he hangs on, despite the pain. He knows that if there is a hell, he is going to it. Or maybe he is already in it. Either way, he continually punishes himself as an expression of the deep guilt he feels. Nothing will ever fill the void left in him. But as the seasons have unfolded we have seen Rick grow attached to this family. It may not be his family, but he has shown a willingness to give his life for them several times. He is healing, however slowly. But it doesnt seem like any amount of time will repair the damage done to him and by him.
His profound awareness of himself and the conditions of his life (developed in his quest to be reunited with Diane) has likely given him heavy self-knowledge. As in, of the metaphysics of his world. He likely knows he is a character, written by a God that is the show's writers. And that his story is this way because it is written this way. In the darkest of moments he still prays that his soul may be saved. That in the end, his story will have a happy ending.
If the writers did it right I can only imagine how hysterical this would be. There are so many things they can do with this. Cherries brings the other churos to life, tells them of his nemesis Morty, and then lures him back. It would be so awesome!
So in 7-3 we see the presidents horrific team including that guy who tells the future and he drew a picture of Rick during to big foot.which later happens in 7-9
I know this was on purpose I just love small detail
There was this episode where someone named zik-zak approached rick and asked to be killed, Rick explained it that "the floop floopians achieve an eternal orgasmic afterlife - so long as they killed by a great warrior"("I'm flattered by the way thank you very much"). And then the episode where in order to get to Valhalla he needs to let Bigfoot kill him, i know Valhalla is not heaven but just a thought i had about rick and his beliefs.
Whats the story and how are they nemesis? (I dont know the plural for nemesis..)
was the overall theme of season 3 realizing that Rick is who sucks and Jerry isn't the main cause of the family problem it's been a while since I watched it so I would like the answer
Would love to see if anyone has this mug and is willing to sell, doesn't matter if new or used.
To my knowledge, it hasnt ever been mentioned. Do we take it litterally, that Prime just left his family and truly never came back, and that his Diane ended up dying with the rest when he used the Omega Device. Or do we think that he killed his Diane, which would mean he had to of done it in a way where Beth or the government never found out and never questioned anything?
Maybe worse, I mean for R&M it's just void of any really funny moments
At one point or another in this show, I've hated every single member of the Smith family, Space Beth included, except Rick. It's ironic that the one character the show explicitly points out as unlikable is still likable to me. And I'm not one of those fans who say Rick is a great role model. He is without a doubt a gigantic piece of shit. However, he has been consistently written in a way that makes him one of the most tolerable characters in the entire show. Morty had this type of writing too at first, but in recent seasons, he's become insufferable. Beth always sucked and Summer is all over the place, but mostly bad. Space Beth is the worst, plain and simple. Jerry can be likable at points, but it's never consistent. Rick is the only main character who's watchable even in the worst seasons.
I try to watch it on the midnight run on Toonami and it's weird enough as it is and hard for me to focus on what's going on due to the subtitles. I end up not understanding what's happening and it feels like 1 minute is actually 5 or 10 in reality and I'm lost. The English version doesn't really help much except make it easier to listen without looking at subtitles. At first, I simply didn't like how it didn't feel like the original; but now it just genuinely feels so weird to watch. I know Rick and Morty will have subplots here and there, but the anime is just so hard to understand because the plot will change.
Anyone help me put a price on this thing, or gimme a clue on how to list it? I'm from an esteemed group of dumbs and could use some input on this thing. Broke, outta work, need $$ for rent. Its got a quote about mulan sauce.
Thanks for the insight, got the answers I needed thanks!
First off, the original Japanese voice acting with subtitles is the only way to make it watchable, the English dialogue and voices are absolutely terrible.
How I understand the plot so far:
Am I crazy or is this nowhere near as convoluted as people are making it out to be? If I understand it correctly, it’s not too far beyond anything that would be in a standard episode. The only big difference is the very anime-ish “show don’t tell, more details will be revealed later on so you’re supposed to be confused for now” approach.
What’s Rick and Morty the anime? Is it an entirely different show? Does it have a different plot? Different voice actors? What’s the general purpose?
Where can I watch it and when?
At the end of Tales from the Citadel we learn that Evil Morty changed the curriculum in citadel's schools and allowed cops to kill their partners. In the finale of Season 5 we can see that Evil Morty made the citadel look more egalitarian (Ricks and Morty are supposedly treated as equals) and made cops protect "citadel's tourism attraction". All the while he used Morty's as slaves.
I suppose the fact that Cop Rick got away with killing his partner is a reference to giving cops more power so that they can be better at protecting Evil Morty's dictatorship.
Protecting tourism and making the citadel look nice could be to stop people from revolting and get money off tourism. Although this already seems like a stretch.
Using Morty's as slaves is likely because Morty's are just better slaves than Ricks due to their personality traits.
But changing the school curriculum doesn't make any sense. He still uses Morty's as slaves so he wouldn't want them to be more independent from Ricks. The current curriculum is already full of propaganda so there's no reason to change it.
It really feels like we're missing some episode as to what happened in between. What are your thoughts?
Im really confused abt the lore, and given s7 e5, i think the morty we see as THE morty throughout the show is morty prime, or am i wrong? Rick prime said "there we go, og grandson" or smth like that, thinking it was "morty c137" and not evil mortyy
Disclaimer: I know about the deleted scene, that might be non canon, or just rick c-500a being an ass on the citadel. Also I'm p sure someone made this connection already and I just don't know the right keywords to google
Ok so by the end of rixty minutes c-500a jerry confesses to beth, and she apparently falls for him there, or maybe she was already into him, who knows, thing is very successful man has a breakdown over missing "the one that got away"? Kinda seems like the sort of thing the citadel would do to cause more mortys, or at least an early attempt at it since we only see teen Beth and jerry being coupled in the episode before it becomes just cloning.
Also in this same reveal sequence, the universes that are shown having ricks be delivered mortys get kinda, properly attatched to the central finite curve (universes where rick is the smartest) only after rick has a Morty, maybe this implies that a rick without a Morty isnt the smartest thing in his universe? Maybe they physically need a Morty for some science lore stuff in order to be the smartest in the universe
In the season 7 poster, he appears behind rick, next to rick prime and sasquatch (all where "evil" at some point)
What could this mean? Could it mean, that like rick prime, they are closing his story, but then would it make sens considering that sasquatch was never seen in previouse seasons... are they just trying to throw everyone off... or it could mean that they are all his enemies sooner or later, sasquatch was left alone in the foresst, maybe hel comme to hate rick, and maybe poopybutthole will also come to hate rick att some point?
Which Rick and Morty character are you Quiz
Made this quiz, I'm April which is atleast not Jerry.
Hypothetically I know that the Morty Time was like 2 minutes or something like that but was the experience like Salvia in you think you lived an entire Timeline?
We all know Rick's IQ is extremely high, being a polymath who is knowledgeable in all fields of science. But his eq is a different story. I would estimate it to be around 80-95. Though Rick is definitely emotionally stunted due to what happened with Diane and Beth + a lifetime in the galaxy.
Ik that Rick and Morty say they’re from earth C137 but is that they’re earth that they’re ORIGINALLY from or the one that they currently live on? (Bc they switched earths when things went south)
Are there any free streaming services that I can watch rick and morty without signing up?
C137’s arch enemy — Rick Prime — has been destroyed. So where do we go from here?
Evil Morty is an incredible character, but a terrible antagonist.
Yes, he is probably the best character in the show outside of 137. But does that make him a good big bad? His whole goal is to “monologue and fuck off.”
How can your big bad be someone who just wants to be left alone? Yeah he has the Omega device but that’s not a threat from someone with no motivation to use if left unbothered.
So where do we go from here? What will bother Evil Morty into using the Omega Device? Does C137 have an itch to scratch with respect to Evil Morty the way he did with Rick Prime?
If not, will we need a new irritant to get things scratching again?
Thoughts?
If anyone is good at game design plz plz make the mortypad🙏 Its all I need in my life
I know this season has its haters and not every episode is great, but I do enjoy this season despite its flaws. "The Rickshank Redemption" is the best season premiere in the whole show, "The Ricklantis Mixup" is an INCREDIBLE showcase of the show's formerly excellent storytelling, Rick's battle with the President in the season finale was fun, hell, I even like the universally hated Vindicators episode. Seriously, I do NOT get why people hate it so much. Some people say it was because they changed writers or something, but I don't know. If anything, "The ABCs of Beth" was WAY worse than that episode. But yeah, I'm a fan of Season 3. It still has everything I liked about the show before it shit the bed in Season 4.
Combine the hole and Mr Meeseeks killing himself as the mission to conquer his fears. Here's some character dialogue
"The only way to feel alive" "Right, long pause, inpatient tone you missed a spot champ"
"Owe"