/r/artbusiness

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r/artbusiness is a place to discuss everything related to the business side of art: from dealing with clients and contracts to marketing, social media and merch production. Please use the dedicated megathreads if you wish to share your business or ask about pricing your work. Join our Discord server to chat with members in real-time.

Sister subreddit to r/ArtistLounge where you can discuss general art technique, life as an artist and art culture.

Welcome to r/ArtBusiness, a subreddit dedicated to discussing the business aspects of art.

Are you an aspiring artist wondering how to get started in the art world? Do you have questions about what an artist's career path looks like? Are you looking for advice on how to sell your art or interact with clients? If yes, you've come to the right place.

We would like to encourage positive discussion on any topics related to the business of art, best practices, and resources for professional artists or those who wish to become professional artists. We hope you enjoy your time here!

Rules

1) Read the F.A.Q before posting. FAQ

2) All posts must be related to the business side of art.

3) Pricing is complicated, please respect other artist's choices.

4) Be kind and courteous to all users.

5) This is not a legal advice sub.

6) Contact the mods directly for complaints.

7) No selling, for hire, or promotion.

8) This is a discussion focused sub.

9) Flair your posts where appropriate.

10) No "hiring" or soliciting. (This includes discord links, survey links and mass friend requests.)

11) No "Let's follow each other" posts and do not write "DM me for more info".

12) No witch-hunts, doxing, or targeting of individuals/groups.

13) Please use the dedicated mega-threads.

14) If you think your post may infringe on the rules contact the mods first.

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I got a shadowban on twitter

Unfortunately I got a suggestion bann on twitter and I don't know how to get rid of it.

2 Comments
2024/05/16
16:05 UTC

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I need a Vgen code

I need a code to work with commissions, I can't pay with money but I will try to pay you in another way. My portfolio is in progress and for now I can only show my Instagram acc

1 Comment
2024/05/16
13:15 UTC

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how do i start commissions ?

please help !

1 Comment
2024/05/16
13:06 UTC

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Just got accepted for my first art market!

I tagged this Artist Alley, but it's an art fair that our local Farmer's Market is putting off with a Gallery in town next month! I am so beyond thrilled and excited that I needed to make a post about it!

Just over a year an a bit ago I decided I had enough working for other people and couldn't do that any more; and at 31 at the time, I wanted to live my life for myself. So I went back to my roots and wanted to take my art more seriously because for as long as I can remember, I always wanted to be an artist. Took up oil painting, and haven't looked back!

Over the past year I focused hard to create the foundations of what I hope to be my art business:

  • I constantly created and tried new things, and through my hard work I have a solid 13 paintings with prints that I feel is worth selling.

  • I am a web developer currently, so I have coded an entire e-commerce site for myself, completely custom. And I will be setting it live now leading up to the market!

  • I have designed business cards, I have chosen my studio name, and am in the process of creating plaques and information cards for my paintings to hang while they are on display.

  • And for the past 4 months I have been helping my friend, who has his own ceramics business, going to weekly markets so I have begun exposing myself to what markets are like, the people usually involved, and have made quite a few new artist friends too!

So now after so long of building this foundation, it is all not coming together for my first market! And not only do I get the opportunity to have all my art on display in a high traffic market, the gallery involved has also stated they will accept a piece from the vendors to display within their gallery (at the discretion of the artist of course)! And I am 100% going to do that too.

So many opportunities in my city are blocked off by criteria you need to meet as an artist, usually needing to fit 3 or 4 points on a list --and usually two of those criteria are "professionally sold your art" and "displayed in a gallery", which this one event will give me to open up even more opportunities!

I cannot express how excited I am, and how proud I feel for all of my hard work to come together now! It's absolutely amazing!

And for any new artists like myself, just keep putting in the work and keep your eyes out of opportunities; you never know when that one piece falls that ties everything together!!

9 Comments
2024/05/16
13:05 UTC

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TikTok and Fanart promotion

Question for other artists since I'm not sure where else to post this. We recently started a TikTok channel since we heard it was a really good place to market us and get seen. Our first video showed a fanart based product. No links were made to the item and was just us saying, hey look at this! It did pretty good but then suddenly stopped getting views. We got a notification that it wasn't eligible for feeds because it violated community guidelines. The reason given was "unoriginal, low quality, or qr code content". I appealed it since we drew everything but it got denied.

My question is, I'm trying to better understand what exactly it is that broke the rule. I'm not at all a big TikTok person so I'm not super familiar with it but I know I've seen people posting fanart and even clips from shows. I can't find a way to contact support directly to get better clarification so I'm hoping someone here might know. Was it because the fanart was presented as merch? I know selling fanart is a whole can of worms legally but I'm not asking for legal advice. This is solely trying to find out what we did wrong per TikTok rules so we can avoid it again.

6 Comments
2024/05/16
09:42 UTC

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Any freelance illustrators out there finding that there is far less work/ opportunities coming through now?

Since 2024, It's something I'm experiencing. Almost like a sudden drop off.

I've been a freelance illustrator for more than 15 years. I've been used to getting multiple inquiries each day on my contact form. Nowadays I'm lucky if I get more than 1 enquiry each week.

Not sure if I can put it down to A.I. or competitive freelance sites like fiverr, Upwork etc. I heavily relied on Google SEO ranking for clients to find me. But it's a losing battle trying to keep my site high for my keywords. Especially with all the ads and snippets and freelance sites that appear before my listing.

I wonder if anyone else is having similar experiences?

I guess I'm trying to gage a strategy going forward.

19 Comments
2024/05/16
08:16 UTC

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Unsure who my target audience is/should be

Hi, i'm struggling rigth now to find a niche. It's always been hard for me to settle down in a consistent artstyle/subject matter.

As the title says, i don't know who I should be appealing to. I thought i could interact with the OC art community, but I find it hard to create characters of my own. I mainly do semirealistic character illustrations, and also have an interest in pixel art.

What are the communities I should be trying to appeal to with my art if I want to start getting commissions?

10 Comments
2024/05/16
04:10 UTC

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How much should I charge this client?

Hi! I've been working with/ for this client for 3 years. She just put in a really big order and I'd like to know how much I should charge. She needs the following:

  • New Logo (Made from scratch with her occasional input)
  • Social Media Kits for the following platforms:
    • Twitter
    • Twitch
    • Ko-fi
    • Caard
    • Youtube
    • Instagram
    • Reddit
    • Redbubble
  • Twitch Overlay
    • Starting Soon
    • Ending
    • Brb
  • Custom Weekly Calender for Events
  • Per Item Rate for Making Merch
  • Banners for Discord
  • Panels for Discord
  • Youtube Thumbnails

I don't have rates for this type of scenario and I have no idea how long this will take me.

Any advice is welcome and encouraged!

5 Comments
2024/05/16
03:52 UTC

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I'm going insane trying to understand VAT. Pls help!

This is a bit heavy, but I'm hoping someone can help explain it to me simpler.

I'm in Australia, here we have GST. If my business makes less than 75k a year, registering for GST is optional. So far, so good, seems straightforward.

I want to open my KoFi shop. My first items for sale will be stickers, sheet magnet prints and bookmarks. If I want to sell these overseas, it seems more than just countries in the EU have VAT.

It seems VAT is also an encompassing term that includes GST systems, but not all countries have a VAT system one has to register for as a business. It seems like I could sell to US, Canada, India and Hong Kong (for example) without registering for VAT, because these countries have GST systems.

Am I making this all harder than it needs to be? Is there a simple resource somewhere that tells me what countries will be subject to importation VAT and which are not? Don't get me started on tariffs... That's a whole secondary issue. 😭😭😭

8 Comments
2024/05/16
02:58 UTC

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Selling artwork that features specific food products?

If I create merchandise (stickers, prints, tshirts, etc.) that feature specific food products, would that violate trademark law even if I don’t include the actual name of the product in the design?

For example - if I create “Cup Noodle” artwork would that be acceptable as long as I don’t include the actual logo? Or if I create artwork featuring the White Rabbit Creamy Candy, to what extent should I alter the original product?

Here’s an example of what I mean.

4 Comments
2024/05/16
02:29 UTC

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Organizers not promoting events

Should I be worried if the organizer for an art market is not promoting vendors and the event? I posted on my own Instagram that I'm vending at the market and tagged them. Usually they do promote the event because I saw previous ones. But they've been quiet on the market for tomorrow.

8 Comments
2024/05/16
00:32 UTC

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How much should I charge for this set of commissions?

Hello! I just finished up this set of 3 commissions (mostly finished, i still need to cut them to size), but I’m completely lost on how much I should charge. They’re three 12x12 pen & ink pieces of the clients dogs, and each took about 8-10 hours. I’ve never really had a set hourly rate or flat standard for pricing, I usually just charge whatever feels right (which most tell me is severely undercharged) but not only are these the biggest commissions I’ve done but also the most at one time, and I have no idea how much to charge.

Any advice is welcome!

3 Comments
2024/05/16
00:30 UTC

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Thinking about starting commissions, any help?

Hello, I'm at 19 y/o student who is about to finish college soon. I need help with any tips or posts about how to start a business? I've read into doing art commissions but I know you have to have a business account to do so. I'm just wanting it as a little side hustle but I am at a complete loss. i see 15 y/o's doing commissions and everyone makes it seem so simple, but then there's tax on top (at like the end of the year?) and I just get so lost, so if anyone could spare a few minutes and drop some advice or a post or article or anything It'd be much appreciated.

I have been having a scroll through some of the posts on here too.

edit: its mainly payments and stuff i'm worried about, sorry i kind of blabbered on too much lol

4 Comments
2024/05/15
22:14 UTC

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Where do i look for work?

Ive been in sort of a rut with work, i want something more stable and i know im not Professional level but i do want something concrete how do i go about this and where should i be looking? Im a visual artist with mostly anime styled art however i can do western and cartoony style as well

9 Comments
2024/05/15
19:25 UTC

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What should I do?

I’m a digital artist that posts a lot of art on instagram. The majority of my posts consists kaleidoscope/mandala animations. I recently was contacted by a man that seems to be an art broker or director. The conversation started with him complimenting my art and asking if he was speaking with a representative or the artist, I stated that I was the artist. He then asked me how long I’ve been making art, I said 3 years. His reply was “I guess you’ve gained a lot of experience over the years” , then continued to say that he thinks my art has enough quality to produce big time projects and that he believes my art would be fit for film, digital reality and advertisement if I was open minded about it. He then asked if I was familiar with virtual art galleries. My reply was basically that I had heard of them but never used one. He then stated that there’s huge potential in virtual art galleries because “majority of art collectors and investors use it as means to discover artist because they believe that any artist who has a portfolio in the virtual market is constantly working towards the growth of their art brand”. He sent a couple of links to virtual exhibits, and says he hopes to see some of my art in an exhibit like this. Finally, He states that he works with clients who are big time investors and that “we would love to buy your artworks and publicize them on the gallery.” Does this seem like a scam? And has this happened to any of you before? I’ve never sold any of my artwork before so I don’t really know what to reply back.

5 Comments
2024/05/15
17:36 UTC

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To those who take commissions online with limited slots, how do I write this

I just want to ask this real quick while i'm bussing home. A bit of a dumb question, maybe(?).

So like, on social media (specifically twitter), how do you write it in your description or name? Say I am fully booked and can't take anymore at the time, is it 3/3 or 0/3. If I have only 1 request at the moment is it 1/3 "slots taken" or 2/3 "slots left".

I just wanna know the general practice if there was one. I'll probably forget all about it in a few days lol

4 Comments
2024/05/15
16:30 UTC

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Artists, how did you begin receiving commissions through social media?

I'm an artist who's new to receiving commissions through social media, and I currently have a small following. I'd love to learn from other artists' experiences and hear about their processes. How did you get started with commissions, and what advice would you give to someone just starting out?

10 Comments
2024/05/15
16:12 UTC

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Grave mistake that idk what to do to fix

Dumb artist working on comissions for the First time, didnt know How pricing worked and accepted a comission without determining a final price at first, now i have something that is worth around 400-500 while the comissioner wants to pay 200.

I brought this to myself, i should have consulted fellow artists more and i know damn well i'm the asshole in this situation, but i need that money for paying rent, soo what the fuck do i do? Accept the 200 and take the L, lower the price for compensantion or push for more?

24 Comments
2024/05/15
15:54 UTC

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What scanner to choose for scanning watercolors at a professional level?

Hello,

As the title suggests, we are looking for a scanner to digitize watercolor paintings for printing. My partner is an independent illustrator who works mainly with watercolors, and we want to find a scanner that can produce the most faithful rendering possible to the original artwork. The problem is that we are quickly overwhelmed by the different products available, and we are afraid of having to heavily edit each piece to achieve a realistic result.

To narrow down our search, we have a budget of around 200 €, but we are open to more expensive products if we are completely off base with our pricing expectations. Ideally, the scanner would be able to handle A3 size, but this is not a deal-breaker. However, A4 support is mandatory. We currently use service providers for printing, and we already have the printer we want.

I would also like to specify that we do not need a printer, just a scanner.

Thank you in advance for your help!

8 Comments
2024/05/15
15:30 UTC

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is it ok for 40 people to share one commissioned art piece?

So there's this client of mine that wants to commission me, she said that there will be 40 people who will share the price and the artwork (only for personal use, I still have the rights). For context, the artwork costs 80USD and a full body one. It's a digital artwork of their character. The people who wants to share are also not a company but a fandom, and they intend it to use only for personal use and not commercially.

I'm thinking of saying ok and just forbid them to print it even for personal use just so I won't feel robbed. Should I allow it or not? That's a lot of people who will share and I was left speechless and dumbfounded, need advice.

Edit: english is not my first language and I was in a hurry earlier so I apologize for the wrong uses of words 😭 I edited it now, sorry for the misunderstanding.

Update: thank you everyone for the help! I decided to just let them be, as long as what they're doing will have no financial gain.

23 Comments
2024/05/15
14:27 UTC

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Opening a Paypal business account

Hello, I'm a freelance artist for almost 7 years now, I'm from Argentina. Paypal is the only payment method for commissions that I use. I never had an issue with it but I have seen some other artists at twitter or other sites where their Paypal account got permanently closed and as a response I saw some people advised to get a business account to avoid that kind of issue but I'm a bit nervous and lost in how to do it and what things I should take in consideration.

I both use commissions sites like Artists&Clients and Vgen and also do direct commissions were the clients send me the payment directly btw. Also to transfer my paypal money to my country's currency I use Airtm so I don't know if doing it thru a business account would cause me trouble, do anyone know?

Sorry for any misspelling or errors.

3 Comments
2024/05/15
13:00 UTC

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How would you write up an info sheet or contract style document for a company or business who wants to sell my art in their stores?

Long story short, I'm getting a pieces of art put in some local galleries, and a larger local company is interested in my work but wants info on RRP, price breakdowns, etc, how would I make that? Like would it be a contract style document for them to read through? A simple sheet of here is product, here is breakdown? I have no clue where to even start with that business side of getting my stuff through the door..

5 Comments
2024/05/15
12:52 UTC

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Are business cards worth it?

For context, i'm a traditional artist looking to get some of my canvas work into some shops locally, I have a few who are interested, but I don't own nor have ever used a business card for anything as the internet covers most of the contact info I would need.. is it worth getting some business cards? I don't really see any other traditional artists doing that locally either..

36 Comments
2024/05/15
12:26 UTC

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Printing on Rice Paper

So "rice paper" isn't made from rice; it's a mulberry paper, sometimes in varieties such as kozo, unruye, kitakataeyc.

I want to print on these papers, probably inkjet. Preferably a printer where the printing paper can slide through in a straight line instead of curling around a drum, although if I have to ....

Does anyone use these papers for printing? Any recommendations? I'm less worried about perfection of the print quality than the paper coming through safely.

Yes, I know you can tape paper to a feeder sheet, but my experience is that jams even more quickly.

2 Comments
2024/05/15
04:00 UTC

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Manufacturing Sketchbooks as a business idea.

I'm an artist who is relatively new to business and I want to expand my business further by selling sketchbooks with my art as the cover.

I'm torn between DIY-ing it and outsourcing it.

I realize DIY-ing it, I wouldn't have to worry about keeping a huge stock. But it just takes time and energy to create one. Do you think it's worth it? And will people actually buy DIY sketchbooks? :')

Maybe.. I could open pre-orders?

I've bought my fair share of DIY sketchbooks before, I love them so much :') but I honestly am not sure if there are actually a good amount of people who would get them.

However, having it manufactured by book printing companies, it'd cost more and the MOQ is usually 100 pcs. And I'm kinda afraid to just jump into that big of a number without even knowing how the market would be.

2 Comments
2024/05/15
02:44 UTC

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I've been looking forward to start an art commission but idk how to process my gcash acc

Hello! I'm a minor artist here seeking for help or alternatives to process a form of payment for digital arts? Can a not fully processed gcash account receive money? (I couldn't fully process it since I'm a minor and my parents aren't really eager to help me process it) What are the risk if I could receive money. Please I really need your help.

1 Comment
2024/05/15
02:09 UTC

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Best E-Commerce Platform?

Hello,

I just had my 3rd show and sold all of my art print inventory in the first few hours (I think I got lucky). Multiple customers came around at the end of the show and asked to buy prints from my website. I don't have one yet and I'm having a hard time selecting one. I've heard problems are creeping up with Etsy and I've heard people recommend Big Cartel, Squarespace, Square and Ebay. Are there any sites that can sell across platforms such as Instagram? I'm currently using square for my credit card system.

Thanks

9 Comments
2024/05/15
01:33 UTC

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Advice on Pricing IP Rights for Digital Design

Hi,

I'm an illustrator, and a few months ago, I created a mural for a company. Recently, their marketing team contacted me because they are interested in purchasing the IP rights for the digital design. They have asked me to provide an amount for which I would be willing to sell the IP rights. I don't have many details about how they plan to use the design, other than that they are interested in using parts of it. Any advise?

1 Comment
2024/05/14
21:27 UTC

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How should I start my first art business?

I want to make some quick cash on the side as a student, I have experience with art and used to make drawings for my family and friends. So I was won how I should start my first art commission business. If you have any experience or anything you want to share please tell me

5 Comments
2024/05/14
21:42 UTC

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Webtoon pricing

Hello ! I'm Ash, a french illustrator just starting my business, and I have received a request to draw a webtoon ( sketching, inking, coloring, the bubbles, the whole thing basically except the scenario ), and I was wondering if the prices I'm considering are accurate.

I'm thinking of 1000 $ per chapter, knowing that there will be 40 panels in each chapter, and every panel costs 25$. This would be a 15 to 20 chapters long webtoon so the prices would go from 15 000 $ to 20 000$.

I'll add to that some preproduction costs ( for the character designs per example ) that would range from 647.87 $ to 971.81$.

For the background, I am a new freelancer but I've been drawing for a lot of years and even if this is my first webtoon I've already drawn some comic pages.

4 Comments
2024/05/14
20:53 UTC

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