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A Subreddit to discuss voting. From methods, to systems, laws, news, and questions - all voting related topics are welcome.

(This sub isn't for specific Elections or general Politics. Other subs for those include /r/elections and /r/politics.)

Submitters are encouraged to remain as non-partisan and open-minded as possible to encourage constructive conversations.

Welcome to /r/Voting

A Subreddit to discuss voting.
From methods, to systems, laws, news, and questions - all voting related topics are welcome.

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Submitters are encouraged to remain as non-partisan and open-minded as possible to encourage constructive conversations.


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Alternate timeline

I was just wondering today what America would be like if Carter had won the election instead of Reagan

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2024/12/01
20:54 UTC

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Pick one

Videos

View Poll

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2024/12/01
15:38 UTC

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I have a confession.

I had a manic episode and voted for Trump.

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2024/11/29
16:18 UTC

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Modernizing Voting Legislation: Addressing Current Challenges and Improving the System

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2024/11/28
17:21 UTC

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Are there any countries where temporary foreign workers can vote ?

I'm doing a debate for class and I'm wondering if there are any countries that allow tfws to vote.

2 Comments
2024/11/27
17:48 UTC

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Voting systems

I chanced on a voting platform for huge institutions, groups, organisations, schools and the like and wanted to bring members attention to it. : There is a demo video that explains clearly how it works. I think it's great : https://workspace.google.com/marketplace/app/let_my_vote_count/461697922470

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2024/11/26
18:30 UTC

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"The information gap"

Common influences on the average Voter (USA)

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2024/11/24
21:51 UTC

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Any way to verify your vote?

I’ve been doing some very in-depth research for the past 10 minutes and can’t find the answer. Is there anyway to verify who your vote was counted for in the election?

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2024/11/24
00:22 UTC

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How to predict seats based on a Parallel voting system

Hello everyone, I just want to know a formula for predicting how many seats a party would get using the parallel voting system (Like in Japan) based on one opinion poll, in which the imaginary parliament has 90 electoral seats and 30 list seats. Thank you.

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2024/11/22
10:47 UTC

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The Illusion of California's Democracy

California is often hailed as a bastion of progressive values, seen by many as a model of liberal democracy. However, beneath the surface, the state's political landscape is intricately complex, revealing a blend of far-left ideologies intertwined with underlying racist tones. This paper explores the notion that California's political identity is not simply "liberal," but rather far-left, and how this extreme ideology coexists with racism. Furthermore, it examines the Republican response and assesses how the outcome of the 2024 election may paradoxically affirm California's political trajectory, even as crime rates decline.

The Far-Left Identity

While California is widely regarded as a liberal state—championing issues such as environmental protection, LGBTQ+ rights, and immigration reform—its political scene has shifted toward far-left policies that often disregard moderate viewpoints. The rise of movements advocating for defunding the police, radical reforms in education, and aggressive climate policies reflects this leftward drift.

Racism in Progressive Ideals

Despite the state's progressive facade, California's history and current policies reveal persistent racist undertones. These can manifest in various ways, including the gentrification of neighborhoods traditionally inhabited by communities of color, where economic advancements for some come at the expense of others. The progressive rhetoric often fails to address or actively perpetuates systemic inequalities, leading to the very exclusion and disenfranchisement that these movements claim to oppose.

The Republican Perspective

Republicans in California also contribute to this complex dynamic. While they may espouse differing views on economic and social issues, their policies can often reinforce systemic racism and inequality. The Republican Party has struggled to retain a foothold in a state dominated by Democrats, yet some of their rhetoric appeals to voters who feel alienated by the far-left agenda. This creates a paradox where both parties, in their extremities, may inadvertently uphold similar racial undercurrents and economic disparities.

The 2024 Election and Its Implications

The recent 2024 election highlighted California's unique political landscape. As crime rates have significantly dropped, many voters appear to support politicians who embrace a tough-on-crime approach, even if it originates from a supposedly progressive platform. The election results indicate a complex relationship between voters' perceptions of safety, governance, and ideology.

Historically, liberal policies have been posited as solutions to crime and inequality, yet the observations made during the election suggest that many Californians may prefer more centrist or even conservative responses to crime while still identifying as liberal. This creates a renewed debate about what it means to be “liberal” in California and whether that label is truly representative of the electorate’s views.

In dissecting California’s political landscape, it becomes evident that the state's self-identification as a liberal paradise is complicated by its far-left tendencies and racial complexities. The 2024 election results serve to highlight these contradictions, revealing how a state renowned for its progressive ideals grapples with ingrained systemic issues. As both Democrats and Republicans navigate this landscape, it will be crucial for Californians to confront the realities of their political beliefs, striving for a more genuine form of equality and democracy that transcends mere labels and seeks to address the root causes of the societal disparities they claim to abolish

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2024/11/19
01:21 UTC

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Secrecy of the ballot & vote counting.

This is a two part question:

I was a poll worker in the presidential election. Polls closed at 7:30 pm. It was another half hour for us to clean up and for the voting machines to be picked up. I got home by 8:15. I turned on the TV, and they had already declared Donald Trump had won our state. How could they know? There was no time for the ballots to be counted.

My second question. We worked hard to make sure that the ballots were secret. We had the secrecy sleeves and had 3 members from each party working the polls to ensure everything was private. Our state is a "Red" state. It concerns me now because I know several people who voted blue, and are now being threatened. In one instance, a school teacher received a call on her cell. The manager told her that someone had hit her car outside her home She ran outside still carrying her phone. The caller then said "There you are b*tch, I know what you look like now. We are gonna make you pay for not supporting your country". He then hung up. She looked around, but didn't see anyone suspicious. It didn't occur to her till later to wonder how he got her name, her phone number and knew how she voted. I know the precautions we took to protect the rights of all voters, and I assume all precincts did the same. How did they know?

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2024/11/17
22:25 UTC

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2028 Presidential Election

J.D. Vance (Republican)🔴 or Michelle Obama (Democratic)🔵

4 Comments
2024/11/16
22:13 UTC

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One day to vote is insane!

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2024/11/16
02:04 UTC

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Why I don’t vote

Before you guys attack me for this let me explain why I fundamentally disagree with the voting system. So I live in Utah, a state that is, has been and always will be Red. Nothing will change that, we lean so far right that no matter how many people send in votes we will still be a red state. With the way the voting system works the only votes that count are the electoral college which means that all the people who voted blue in my state basically get thrown in the trash and don’t count towards anything. If we have a system where a candidate can win the popular vote and still lose the election like Clinton did in 2016 then we have an issue. Now if I lived in a state where there was even a remote chance it could swing either way then obviously I would vote but here I just don’t see a point.

15 Comments
2024/11/15
21:09 UTC

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Where there two different mail in ballots?

I’m a first time voter. For the November 5th vote I opted to do mail-in voting. The ballot I filled out had local propositions and the presidency. Well yesterday I was going through documents I need to shred and I found a second ballot envelope which contained options for senate. I had never heard of there being two different ballots to fill out, and the two other people in my household did not receive a second ballot envelope, only I did.

Did I mess up my vote? Has this happened to anyone else, and how many others? I know there were a lot of first time/left voters showing out for this election and I may have made a one off mistake, or did many of us make this mistake, and that’s why we lost so severely? Any input at all would be very helpful, thanks in advance

TLDR: I found a second ballot I didn’t see before did I mess up my vote and how many others have had this problem?

8 Comments
2024/11/14
04:24 UTC

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Checking registration

Hi, I know this is a bit of a dumb question but I voted for the first time this year and I registered in person. I went to see if my state has me registered online and to check over my status and I can’t find it. I was just wondering if you have to check something different aside from your states voting website, or if you can check it at all given I registered in person. Again I know it’s a dumb question but I can’t get a straight answer on it. (I’m in Idaho BTW)

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2024/11/13
09:15 UTC

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My family and I did not vote thinking that Kamala was going to win and now we regret it.

We are 8 people in total, we all thought that Kamala was going to win and that's why we didn't even go, each one had a valid excuse. I personally had an Overwatch tournament that day.

I also know many other people who did the same...

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2024/11/13
03:26 UTC

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This years voter

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2024/11/12
19:21 UTC

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quick question, is a vote valid if I'd not registered to vote, California

I heard they will check the the ballot against register to vote list, if no match then the ballot is void. Is this true? Google does not return a good answer. Thanks.

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2024/11/12
19:11 UTC

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Running on Empty: Stealing an Election

Just like Richard Pryor's computer program stole pennies without making transactions disappear, election "salami slicing" cyberattacks could alter vote tallies without votes visibly vanishing.

Imagine a race where a candidate runs the best political campaign of their life, convinced they secured victory. But behind the scenes, digital vote totals were slowly shaved until they just barely lost. The candidates and voters wouldn't necessarily know the final counts were manipulated. (It's the equivalent of running the fastest race of your entire life, but you'll only be judged by a predetermined time watch.)

It would be like running your personal best marathon, certain you came in first place and even holding the timer showing your record finish. But in the official results, your time is oddly a few minutes slower and now you placed second. The clock and finish line tape you experienced don't match the final judgement.

This form of vote tally alteration allows candidates to both legitimately win AND illegitimately lose at the same time. The impacted runner knows their own performance but can't prove what the adjusted timer says is inaccurate or fraudulent. Outright theft isn't required to change outcomes - just digitally "salami slicing" totals until results shift in the hacker's favor.

https://youtu.be/K0LA6A2AA74

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2024/11/12
16:34 UTC

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Trusting the Process: Stealing an Election

The movie Superman III had a famous scene where Richard Pryor's character uses a computer program to steal tiny fractions of pennies from financial transactions, which added up to a fortune over time. This is similar to a cyberattack technique called "salami slicing", where an attacker makes subtle changes in small increments that eventually lead to a major impact.

In voting, malicious hackers could employ a "digital salami slicing" strategy to shave votes and alter totals bit-by-bit. They might use methods like:

Compromising electronic thumb drives to flip just a few votes per machine. Scaling that tiny change across thousands of precincts shifts outcomes.

Intercepting batches of digital votes and altering percentages by fractions too small to notice.

Exploiting vulnerabilities to subtract votes over multiple tabulations. Like Richard Pryor whittling pennies, these stealthy vote-shaving attacks evade detection but influence results.

While just hypothetical scenarios, the terrifying feasibility reminds us that every aspect of cybersecurity, down to each individual vote, needs ironclad protections. Like Superman III, attacks could "salami slice" democracy itself if we don't remain vigilant.

https://youtu.be/N7JBXGkBoFc

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2024/11/12
16:32 UTC

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Superman III Vote Shaving Analogy: Stealing an Election

I recently had a thought-provoking discussion exploring whether something as ubiquitous as a smartphone could be surreptitiously used as an instrument for electromagnetic or ultrasonic signaling attacks against air-gapped systems like voting machines. We really delved into various hypotheticals:

  • Remote Attack Feasibility: Could visiting a malicious website or receiving a phishing SMS alone compromise a phone? Unlikely due to browser sandboxing, app permissions, and limited control.

What about compromising a phone via satellite signals? Satellite comms have very weak strength on the ground, making this infeasible.

Could a compromised cell tower or baseband OS attack work? Potentially, but would require sophistication beyond most threat actors.

  • Social Engineering Challenges:

Successfully socially engineering a target to voluntarily install a malicious app masquerading as something innocuous presents significant challenges. App store review processes check for obvious malware.

Once installed, anomalous background processes or network activities could raise detection by anti-malware apps, device management solutions, or the user.

  • Prerequisites for Viable Attack:

Ultimately, physical proximity and unsupervised access to the air-gapped system would be required.

Attack app would need to be stealthy, with legitimate-seeming functionality, and tailored to specific device models for best effect.

Insider threat or supply chain compromise would be the most plausible scenario to carry out such an attack.

  • Takeaways for Security Professionals:

Real-world examples like Stuxnet show that even air-gapped systems can be compromised under certain conditions, despite their improved security.

Technological capabilities for sophisticated attacks continue advancing rapidly, requiring security professionals to stay ahead of emerging threats.

No single defensive measure like air gaps is foolproof against a determined adversary. True defense-in-depth is needed.

For securing sensitive systems, all potential attack vectors must be considered, no matter how unorthodox they may seem.

Common devices like smartphones can theoretically be repurposed into exotic attack instruments given insider access.

Physical security, auditing, and personnel controls are as crucial as technical measures, yet they are constantly defeated and often remapped by a Powerful Defense Contractor.

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2024/11/12
16:29 UTC

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In the US how are mail in ballots counted?

I have seen vote count charts with sharp vertical lines for Biden in 2020 and for Harris in 2024. I guess it does make sense that mail in ballots which include Americans living abroad favour Trumps opponent.

However the vertical line in the count only makes sense if mail in ballots are counted separately and the result of that count is added to the total once the count is done. Is that the case? If not what causes those large vertical lines for the count of a candidate?

6 Comments
2024/11/12
10:47 UTC

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Where did the 10 million votes go for Democrats? Biden had 80 million while Harris got 70 million. Trump got the same amount as in 2020. Did something fishy happen? The math doesn't make sense even with a margin of error.

15 Comments
2024/11/12
02:59 UTC

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is this real and should i reply? voted for the first time in person.

13 Comments
2024/11/10
17:49 UTC

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Reddit is a platform for the left

#trump

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2024/11/10
16:02 UTC

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NYC resident: How do I confirm that my vote was counted?

I voted early, in person, at one of the new York city voting sites. How do I confirm that my vote was counted?

5 Comments
2024/11/10
15:46 UTC

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Help me Help us

I know this is a long shot, but I think it's worth a try. 1) check to see if your mail in ballot was counted 2) contact MSNBC to investigate how many mail in ballots were counted before calling a state.

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2024/11/10
15:13 UTC

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Why not IDs?

A government verified/issued identification for voting seems sensible. Claims (or the impression) of voter fraud etc. effectively go away. But there are problems issuing it. What are the arguments against such an ID? Obviously there’s a cost. It couldn’t have a fee which would seem like a poll tax. So it would have to be distributed for free. It would have to be issued automatically at voting age, after the government has confirmed the individuals are eligible. It would require a photo, so there would have to be an accommodation for that which might be an issue but there must be ways around that. Individuals who don’t have permanent addresses would have trouble. But that’s already the case, and provisional ballots must help in that respect.

I guess the argument is if people are serious about voter fraud, these costs are minimal. It opens up voter registration broadly, so it seems like it should be supported by those who advocates for increasing suffrage. What’s the argument ?

8 Comments
2024/11/10
13:51 UTC

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