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There is an interesting theory that the reason Benjen was a brother of the NW at the beginning of the story is because Ned banished him there. The reason for this is because Benjen not only helpedd Lyanna escape with Rhaegar, but he also knew where they were hiding, and never told anyone, which resulted in both their father and brother losing their lives, and the rebellion in which hundreds and thousands of people died.
I mean think about it, isn't it kinda strange for one of the last remaining members of House Stark to willingly sign his life away to the NW when the vast majority of his immediete family has died, and the only members left are himself, his brother, and his brother's two newborn sons who may or may not make it past their first year since infant mortality rates in the medieval world were so incredibly high?
You can also tell by his words and the tone in his voice that he's very bitter about how his life turned out, how much he hates it at the Wall, and because he didn't have the opportunity to have any children of his own. "None of us will ever father sons" and "If you knew what you were giving up, you might be less willing to pay the price son". Does that sound like a man who would choose to go to the Wall? I think not.
Here's another interesting point, during the entire time Benjen is visiting Winterfell, he and Ned NEVER speak to each other, not even once. And whenever they DO speak, their conversations happen offscreen, and are strictly business, never anything brotherly or personal, which could add credence to the fact that the two brothers don't get along so well. In fact, when Benjen learns about Jon's desire to join the Night's Watch, he doesn't go to Ned with this information, instead he goes to maester Luwin. Why wouldn't he tell his brother about his son's intentions to make such a rash descision as this? The only explanation is that he knew that going to Ned wasn't an option.
And one last point, when GRRM was aksed why Benjen went to the Wall after the war was over, he said that the reason for that would be revealed in later books soon. Why would George feel the need to keep Benjen's reasons for taking the Black a closely guarded secret? Because if the reason he went to the wall was because he wanted to either honor the Stark's traditon of manning the wall, or because wanted to make something of himself, then why not just say that?
Does anyone else find it kinda weird how none of the Tully men (Hoster, Blackfish, or even Edmure) never said anything to Ned about his decision to raise Jon in Winterfell alongside Robb, Sansa, Arya, Bran and Rickon, basically shaming Catelyn in the process?
Cause while it's one thing to openly acknowledge a bastard, it's another to bring him home and raise him among your trueborn children, therefore insulting your wife and her family in the process.
The only explanation I can think of is that because Jon was already living in Winterfell before Catelyn and Robb arrived, they already knew about it beforehand, and therefore decided to just let it lie, and not say a word on the matter.
In my opinion the ending of the show was the supposed ending of the books aswel.
That why we now hear that he killed of characters vital to ending. The intended ending had so much negative backlash. That he started to revise the winds of winter. Hence why it’s taking so long.
Endings are difficult, we know this from Stephen king. Especially for series that people are so invested in!
Everyone in the series speaks Jaime Lannister is one of the best fighters with swords but does not show. The only times we saw him fighting was against Ned Stark and it seemed that Ned would win and when he fight against Brienne where he lost shamely. David Benioff and D.B. Weiss invented so many things for the series could have created a fighting scenes with swords to show the skills of Jaime Lannister.