https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HpMkzb-WmA

not sure how much this applies to us track day enthusiasts, but I love all the content from Motogp

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I've only ever had trackdays through Performance Riding Experience (P.R.E) for my local track (Carolina Motorsports Park). I decided to do one last track day this month for the season but it's through Sportbike Track Time and have no experience with them.

Has anyone either been to one of their trackdays and let me know how they are? Or, even better, gone through both PRE and SBTT, and can let me know the differences between the two if any?

I recently took a tumble at my last track day of the season. Another rider made a bad pass on me and I went off the track to avoid hitting them. Unfortunately, I hit the grass at speed and the bike went out from under me so I went rolling. I have some rough shoulder injuries where one shoulder requires surgery and an almost 6 month recovery. I’ve never taken that long of a break from motorcycling.

How do you handle just sitting around with nothing but time to replay the crash in your head? I’m stuck thinking about how maybe I could have done something different. Or maybe I shouldn’t have even gone that day when I kept having little things go wrong (air mattress pump quit working the night before and bike battery terminal came loose minutes before tech)

On the up side, I did get my bump into Intermediate that morning so that is a win.

Edit: thank you all for the advice! I do feel better. I’ll keep trying to stay busy and stay positive. I feel lucky that it did happen at the end of the season so that I can look forward to the next!

Had my first wreck on my zx6r in September, almost fully healed now and looking to get into track riding. I street rode for two years, ninja 400 and zx6r.

My budget would be around 8-9k. I know with my budget I can get a decent 21+ 600 with under 10k miles, but I hear that youre eventually going to get some damage on the track regardless.

Should I buy a used track ready bike or just a stock used bike? I know some track bikes on market have no title, but I would like to have one to occasionally street ride as well, or should I have two separate bikes for both?I haven’t done any mechanical work on my previous bikes besides oil changes / tail tidy / exhaust lol.

Any other recommendations for preparing to track ride would be helpful, I’m in Houston area.

Was fortunate enough to find his 2-day masterclass at roebling road Nov 16-17 next weekend and was going to do my first track day next weekend anyway so figured might as well go all in and get what I can before it gets too cold. I was originally going to go with yamaha champ school but they didn't have classes until january in florida and was an extra 1000 usd and have heard with Ken Hill's training it's a lot more pragmatic and centered around your track time.

With that being said, has anyone done Ken Hill's Masterclass 2-day school? If so, what was it like? Has anyone done with Yamaha Champ School or California Superbike School AND done Ken Hills school? If so, what were the differences?

I'm super excited and can't wait so thought I would ask to help gauge expectations.

I am on a r3 and need some tips on how to turn harder. I dont know of my entry needs to be better or my mid corner because I am fully off the bike and I cant get it to just turn more. Please help.

Why or why not? Have you had any issues with it? Do you think it's a significant advantage over bikes without?

I went to a racing school this last weekend. The coach I was working with noticed I was consistently hitting my markers with my head and not my tires. And as I picked up speed/lean, and the horizontal distance between my eyes and tires increased, I was missing apex's bye that amount. Does anybody have any tips to sort of calibrate this distance? So you know about how close to the edge of track you can really get?

Just completed the Yamaha Trackdays online course and wanted to share a bit of feedback on it. First of all, a quick overview of the rider that I am. For the likes of absolute weapons who browse this subreddit I am an NPC. On average, I'm one of the faster riders in the 3/4 or 4/5 [second fastest] group—sometimes even the fastest on certain days. I'm within about 10 seconds of the outright lap record on some tracks and ride a 2016 S1000RR on Pirelli R4C tires. For example, at Queensland Raceway's National Layout, I clock around 1:19/18 depending on the day when I push. I haven't been on the track for very long and am always looking for ways to improve. Coming from a ski racing and aviation background, some skills and habits have transferred straight into motorcycle track riding.

Overall Impression

Overall, the course is good. While there wasn't anything that was a true revelation for me, I still enjoyed thinking about various aspects of riding in different ways. It made me more aware of things I thought I was already aware of and gave me a different perspective too. It's really good

For me personally, it helped me immensely with a few things, here are four examples that made the course worth the money for me

1. Feet Positioning: I used to flex my ankles a bit when transferring side to side, thinking that I was being more gentle on the chassis. I learned that this is not the best approach.
2. Vision: I realised I was overdoing what is taught by many. I was constantly looking too far ahead and missing apexes. Now I'm retraining myself to scan back and forth and it's working
3. Approach to Learning: Looking up to the best in the sport and making them my end goal for body position, lines, braking, and throttle control makes a lot more sense than learning methods that aren't correct and then having to relearn the right way later on. For instance, (and huge, massive respect) but MotoVudu (Simon Crafar) sent me backwards as his style did not align with what the best are doing today
4. An attitude of: it's not okay to crash. Crashing should be avoided at all costs, and with the right mindset you can avoid it

If you've been riding on track for some time, this course might require patience to extract the golden nuggets. It's very much catered to newer track riders with some sprinkles of advanced tips thrown in. You may need to have patience while still paying attention; otherwise, you might miss them

I wish I had this when I first started, say after my first or second track day. I still wholeheartedly recommend this course, just know what you're getting into

Feedback for Yamaha ChampU

Yamaha ChampU, I know you might be reading this because you mention Reddit and the trackdays subreddit a few times during the course. Here's [in my opinion] how you can make the course better. You already know where you excel, I will instead talk about the parts which I found deficient or perhaps could use more attention. I want the feedback to be constructive but time is valuable and I do not want to turn this into a wall of text, Instead of tippy-toeing, I'll go straight to the point. I'm going to keep it relatively short, here are five things:

1. Suspension: A huge missed opportunity. There are so many chapters, yet I felt I learned very little. No, I learned nothing. I was really frustrated by it all. You could have even called out the tire-wear astrologists (cough Dave Moss cough). You could have shown how various settings affect the ride. Yet the entire section feels like an ad for Öhlins and your suspension specialist. The course is a mile wide but an inch deep. To a lesser extent, the tire section suffers from similar issues. Hot tears, geometry tears, cold tears, and how one deals with them...? Nope, just "consult your tire specialist." For anyone who knows what compression, rebound, and preload are, your time might be better spent on Chapter 6 of Race Tech's Motorcycle Suspension Bible.
2. Inconsistent Production Quality: From topic to topic, the production quality varies. Chapter on overtaking, amazing. You used drones and graphic overlays to show things practically and clearly. Now lets have a look at the Body Position section—if only there was a device that, I don't know, locked the motorcycle in place, allowing the instructor to move around without the bike tipping over and having to catch it every time they're demonstrating something? Do we have such technology...? Maybe grab a second camera to show different angles? Do you think wearing black, with a dark background, on a dark bike is a good idea? For instance, on footwork, your shoes are completely absorbed by the background. Because the camera never moves and is a few meters away, the feet are tiny on the screen.
3. Vision: Good—amazing even—but it could be so much better. Have a look at this video: Eye tracking at Vegas sand see how much it conveys with no sound or voiceover. It's practical and ties together the classroom exercises with the why behind them. Ironically, this video is what I was doing to the extreme, and now I scan back and forth thanks to your teaching. Look at how well you've done the section on overtaking; you didn't do this for the vision section.
4. Telemetry: Missed opportunity that needs revision. Please bear with me, as this really upset me. I'm a huge believer in telemetry, and it's what enabled me to go from a full beginner to within 10 seconds of the lap record in six months, with around 1.5 track days per month and no coaching. How else can you look at your riding in slow motion, rewind, and really show what you're doing versus what you think you're doing? You have one of the best people in the industry, and the lessons are a missed opportunity. I paused numerous times and had to walk away because it's such an amazing tool, and the lessons don't do it justice. You take the best rider in all of America and ask him where he thinks he's doing well and where he's not. He says Turn X and Turn Y, and then you use the data to show that yes, that's what's happening. Then you show a complete beginner who rolls off and on down the straight. What are we doing here? How come a random YouTuber has done more with 10 minutes than you have with the best in the world over the whole section of the course? See this: Revolutionize Your Track Game: Datalogging vs Coaching (Pt.1) - How can you do better? Here's a random idea: take an intermediate rider and get them to do a hot lap. Analyze it by itself or against a better rider's telemetry. Go out again and have them come back. Look at the revised data, learn, and go out again. Repeat and recycle. Concentrate on one thing or many corners at once. Record communications between the rider and the coach while out. Get a drone and superimpose before and after. Show how much of a difference there is. This will convey many things in a practical setting that will make sense to people watching. I really hope you will. Or do something else—you are the experts and can do so much better. But that chapter makes me really sad as it doesn't even begin to convey how much telemetry can do
5. Throttle: You're the best and encourage us to imitate or aim for the top riders, hell you even teach the fire-hydrant doggie style of braking and dedicate a full video to it, so I know you understand this and therefore must teach it too (right?), but it's absent from your teaching here. You mention that by applying throttle, you will begin to ride wider as MPH=Radius. Yes, but not necessarily. Due to the anti-squat characteristics on many bikes, applying throttle actually shortens the wheelbase. With sufficient application, it will cause the rear wheel to drift out, whilst this is happening it's helping the motorcycle turn better through the corner. Yes, this is an advanced technique. But one that helped me shave seconds off my lap times. It would be okay to miss, but you yourself say that this course is for advanced riders too, so I have a bone to pick. We should look up to the best. Funnily enough, you can see this happening in some of your onboard footage of your riders but you don't mention it giving the student an incomplete picture, that yes it will drift wider until the point where in combination of feel, HP and technique throttle can help tighten your turn before you begin to drift wide

Thank you for providing this course. I realise that I am critical and harsh in some ways, but for $100USD and being often touted as the best in the game I am hoping to give you feedback that will see the course improve over time

Cheers

I'm looking at R&G frame sliders. Since the engine effectively makes up part of the frame, the sliders bolt into the engine block.

I'm worried that, in the right kind of crash, the frame will be saved by my cracked engine block.

Thoughts?

I'm adding a woodcraft clutch cover with slider on the right side (to replace the oem one I ground a hole through...). Should I consider that done?

Yes I know “This is why you shouldn’t run frame sliders” but I did, and this happened from a low side. Wondering if this thing is cooked (ZX6r 2011).

Hey Team

Everyone knows that the OEM Tires that come with brand new bikes are wish.com equivalents

However, one of my friends is speccing out a new bike. He is still deciding between motorbike brands, and he asked me a question to which I do not know the answer to

Is the Ohlins upgraded suspension that we can chose on some models full cream Ohlins, or an Ohlins sticker with better looking anodising?

He is really asking if he is better off ordering a poverty spec and ripping it out, or can he save a little and get the upgraded suspension [and then replace the front springs if he has to]

Cheers

Looking for something more budget oriented alike the discontinued https://www.amazon.com/Decibullz-Contour-Ear-Headphones-Quickly/dp/B01M2VMAUI

Vs. the Snugs helmet kit which would total out to being almost $400 including hearing impressions

*EAR PLUG HEADPHONES NOT JUST EAR PLUGS

You didn't ask for one but you're getting one. A short review.

Having seen so many racers use them, I was expecting the quality of CRC fairings to be up there. That and the fact they cost me 700-odd quid. But have to say I'm really disappointed.

They look like they've been trimmed up by a shit butcher - I've seen straighter lines queueing outside of gay bars. Random gouges out of material which I can't make sense of, and all the mould split lines across the bike have had the arse ripped out of them. The lovely curves and corners of the original shape are now nice and, flat...

The dzus fasteners are all held on with dome pop rivets, which hold off the mating bodywork, a few countersinks here and there would have been nice.

It's worth mentioning as well that the fairings are thin. Which is great, of course they should be. But thin fairings don't work if they don't fit together. The whole assembly is under so much tension I've already had many cracks appear which I'll have to dob up.

I'm repairing my brand new fairings before they've turned a wheel and they're going to take a lot of work to fit and prep for paint. Joy.

Yes they're race fairings and going to get fucked. Just be good if they weren't fucked to start off with.

As you were.

I’m currently setting up a UHF RFID system to track laps and monitor race cars on a track. The cars move at speeds up to 70 km/h where the reader would be, and the track is about 10 meters wide. I need real-time lap tracking and the ability to handle up to 20 cars passing. Additionally, the system needs to be weatherproof as it will be used in snowy conditions. I will make a python program that shows the results.

I’m considering using the Yanzeo 10pcs 860-925MHZ 9654 Tag 18M Long Range UHF RFID TAG and the YANZEO SR792 UHF RFID Reader 15m Long Range 10dbi USB RS485. Before I move forward, I’d love to hear from anyone who has experience with a similar setup:

• Can these components handle high-speed readings reliably in a racing environment?
• Any tips on placement or setup to ensure consistent reading at high speeds?
• Have you experienced any issues with RFID reading in snowy or harsh weather conditions?

Any insights, suggestions, or alternative recommendations would be greatly appreciated!

I felt like I had an even bigger improvement after level 2. Can’t wait to go back!

Took the bike out after the Brembo MC upgrade and Cat delete with full tune. I jumped in with the fast guys in advanced group and had a great day. Having the Brembo is the best upgrade I've done or one of the best as I no longer an getting brake fade. I had already done steele lines but OEM MC just could take more than 4 laps. Only other mod I will seek for the bike now is rear sets and more seat time.