/r/Trackdays

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A subreddit dedicated to taking your motorcycle to the race track. Trackdays are the best place to push your limits and learn to ride your motorcycle faster and safer.

Come spring I am sure we will be overrunning /r/motorcycles - I think it'd be nice for us to have a home for just trackday information, tips, tricks, stories, videos and everything else.

Join us!!

Useful Subreddit Links

Please recommend more For now I am leaving this long list. I think I will clean it up into a couple links to sites with more links later.

Of course we have to credit the subreddit that inspired us /r/motorcycles

Roadracing World Trackday and Schools List.

Schools: ZARS Jessica Zalusky Advanced Riding School. Learn from an AMA Pro rider. Jessica is a class act.

YCRS Yamaha Champions Riding School. Arguably the best school out there right now. Nick lenatsch is their Lead Instructor

CSBK California Superbike School. Keith Code literally wrote the book. I started here.

STAR Jason Pridmore's Riding School.

CLASS Reg Pridmores Riding School (Jason's Dad / Multiple time AMA Superbike Champ) Less track focused and more pure skills development focused. Track/Race prepped bikes not required.

Trackday Orgs

Sportbike Track Time One of the main trackday orgs

Performance Riding Experience CR's from NESBA formed this new org

N2 N2 Trackdays - Not sure if N2 stands for Nesba II or not?

Optimum Performance Optimum Performance Trackdays.

MotoVid A smaller local Chicagoland track day org - They only run one track but I am showing some love because they got heart.

2-Fast Pacific Northwest Track Day and School Org.

TPM Team Pro Motion

Hey car guys - we totally got this one first. Now you need to have /r/cartrackdays. Doesn't really roll off the tongue does it?

/r/Trackdays

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What is a good time at Willow Springs ? Big layout

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2024/12/01
13:40 UTC

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Astar VS Dainese gloves sizing help

Hey guys I owns a Alpinestars Stell SMX-1 Air v2 gloves and the size is M(not sure it is a women size or unisex size..), and I’m planing to buy a dainese gloves, can you guys suggest me what size should I choose please??🥺 this is driving me crazy

Huge thanks!

2 Comments
2024/12/01
08:58 UTC

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First time at Barber Motorsports Park & N2

Currently in the novice group with an R3. I have never done a track day with N2 before, or done Barber. Paid $325 which is double the price of a typical track day just about, and have to say for the experience I would say it probably wasn’t worth it. Was it an amazing track? Absolutely.

Was 35-50 degrees outside, with what seemed like 30 people in novice group and I was the only 300 there. I have ridden with precision and STT before and if I remember correctly they had a rule that you can pass on the outside, and before a tip in. N2 said no passing on any corners, no passing in brake zones, and only passes in the straights.

Well I gotta say I felt useless. The only place I could pass people was the corners, and found myself consistently getting frustrated as it only took ONE guy to pass me with a 1000 and I was forced to either hot pit (which didn’t solve anything) or sit behind them for every corner to watch them make up all the time on the straights.

I’ll have to come back with a 600 or 1000 in the summer and re-asses. But as it currently stands I’d rather do two track days with precision or STT at a less expensive track with a little more freedom for half the price of Barber.

Weather, N2, group count, and price aside, the track itself is amazing and would recommend anyone who has never been to do it at least once. All the elevation changes and blind corners were really fun.

9 Comments
2024/12/01
00:07 UTC

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How to feel the front/back? Exercises?

Hello everyone!

Still relatively new to trackdays, I jsut did my first "season" with 4 trackdays, some pitbike and go kart track and cone training. I keep hearing people talking about feeling the front of the back. But tbh I'm still at the stage where I don't feel anything at all, I think maybe one particular good day on the pitbike I felt some things on the rear tire. Was wondering what you guys mean by feeling the front/rear. And mostly ae they exercises which can help develop this "6th sense" or is it just kilometers?

19 Comments
2024/11/30
18:54 UTC

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any tips for homestead miami speedway (motorcycle)

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2024/11/30
15:34 UTC

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what tire pressures should i use for homestead miami speedway?

im currently using a 125 front and a 190 rear both SC1 race slicks. what would you guys recommend for tire pressures on this track. my rear feels like its sliding all over the place. (2006 r6)

15 Comments
2024/11/30
15:34 UTC

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Is 17 too late to start riding?

Is 17 too late to start riding competitively? I recently got into watching motorsports and motorbikes caught my attention immediately. I do have family and friends who ride both on and off track(not competitively) So I got myself a moped since it’s the only thing I’m allowed to currently ride on with my license, and I really enjoy it. But I do however want to race and compete in motorbikes. Since I started riding this year I of course don’t have any experience or the best knowledge of how getting into racing works. But what I do know is of course getting a bike that is allowed to race on tracks, riding gear, spare parts, the insane amount of money that it costs to both get in to a competition, and the expenses of the bike+ spare parts+ riding gear+ travel expenses. I’ve only been riding on normal roads so far but I want to go onto tracks in early spring 2025, and of course get my license in that whole shabang. But everyone I’ve seen on track both on tv and on the local track have been riding since age 3. They are so incredibly talented and have massive support from their families. But me who’s just started riding it feels pointless. I’m never going to be on their level of knowledge and understanding of the bike on and off the track since they started riding during their developmental years. This probably shows that I am not even near being able to compete on track. Any help is appreciated :,)

31 Comments
2024/11/30
13:14 UTC

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Quick shifter questions

I have started doing track days here in CO and am wondering about quick shifters. I’m trading in my 13 CBR500 for a 15 RC390 with some track updates, super excited. I am not planning on installing a quick shifter but wanted to hear if anyone things I should do it before riding it without it. Just wanted to get better at riding and have run beating my own PRs, not trying to win any public races (yet!)

4 Comments
2024/11/29
23:55 UTC

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What to expect

I have my first track day every this sunday 12/1 at little tally.

What are some things i should do to prepare myself and things to look forward to?

13 Comments
2024/11/29
22:05 UTC

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Airbag vest / jacket fittment for older race suits

Hi

Has anyone have experience in wearing an airbag jacket in old 1 piece leather suit like Astars tech 1 R.

Obviously wouldn't fit inside the existing one due to fitment but is there an alternative to buying an older 1 piece that is 1 or 2 sizes larger and wearing the jacket tech 5, 7 or 10 on the inside if buying a new suit is too expensive at the moment?

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2024/11/29
21:35 UTC

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Supercorsa SC vs Superbike Slicks

Are Supercorsa SCs just the Superbike Slicks with grooves or is there more of a gap in terms of construction and compounds or something else? I realise the size options may not be the same and at SC0 is not a compound available with the Supercorsa. Thanks!

7 Comments
2024/11/29
20:58 UTC

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Avon 3D supersport experience

Hello team,

With winter in Canada, it’s about time to tire shop for track days next year. I’ve been looking at some Avon 3D supersports that are a deal right now, but it seems anecdotal experience is in short supply.

Anybody got experiences with these? Not looking for the fastest lap times, but stable and hopefully long wearing. Currently tracking a Monster with Metzeler M9 RR, so I’m curious how these would compare.

TIA

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2024/11/29
20:40 UTC

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Learning to fall

Tl;dr: how to prep for crashing with good form.

Had my first lowside on the track this year. It was a complete surprise as track and tires were cold, and I was only at about 35ish lean angle so the fall to the ground was a hard one. Combine that with my first ever experience with an airbag deploying (TA10), and I was completely at the mercy of physics.

Essentially, I lowsided on right turn at about 45mph. Was sliding on my right side and seems like I put out my left hand (high shoulder) while still sliding. Small fractures on three or four joints, mallet finger on two fingers.

Anyway, obviously, I should have tried to roll on my back rather than try to pick myself up on my knees while still moving. Just glad I didn't roll.

So, to the question: anyone have any successful strategies for falling well? (other than actually falling over and over again... 😂)

28 Comments
2024/11/29
18:06 UTC

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Write up on what i've learned from 4 track days so far.

Went to roebling once, CMP once, and went to jennings for a full 2-day weekend.

Roebling I began to learn my tires can actually grip way more than I thought they could, and I could lean way more than I thought I could as well. I still never dragged my knee yet and still didn't on my first track day, but learned my little R3 was way faster than I thought it could be in the corners and turns. I slowly got more comfortable with the track and was even passing some liter bikes in novice group.

At CMP I had about 4 hours of sleep which in hindsight diminished my focus heavily. It was a way more technical track with braking zones and tighter turns. It was a lot more physically demanding I thought, but cool. People there seemed faster or less "newbie" than at roebling, but due to learning the bike wouldn't lowside from leaning the previous day I became a little more confident in how far I could lean the bike. Eventually in the 4th session I actually got my knee down, and I wasn't even thinking about it at all. It just sorta... happened. But due to that, and my overall lack of focus, the next session I crashed at turn 1 just trying to send it right out the gate. Broke my finger somehow but the bike was ok, and learned the importance of taking it easy on cold tires, and the importance of not braking too heavy when I was tipping in.

I was focusing too much on trailbraking and made the mistake of increasing brake pressure too much as I increased lean angle, when I should have done the opposite, and I was too abrupt with it as well. The lowside taught me a very very valuable lesson: Be Smooth and predictable, that way your bike will be too. After doing some research I found out I likely slipped the front out and tried to grab on to the handle bars and wacked the throttle and the whole bike just slid out.

A week later I went to JenningsGP with the mindset of: Work on building my confidence back up, and don't worry about trying to drag my knee. Focus on my lines, gradually increase my speed, and the knee drag will come as an after-effect. So that's what I did. I also got a lap timer which helped me tremendously. I went from a 1.44 to a 1.37-1.38 consistently last session by the end of the 2nd day on my r3. I got within 7-8 second of the lap record or panamsbk lap record on only my 2nd day at jennings. I never even ended up dragging my knee the entire time, but I was consistenly the fastest one in my novice group, and I had enough confidence that I started to think I knew what I was doing. Ever session I got faster. 1.44, 1.42, 1.41, 1.40, 1.39, etc etc. And I never even touched my knee. I know for a fact im way faster now that I was at CMP when I dragged my knee, and I will be faster than I was at roebling as well.

I even had a flat tire as my valve stem dry rotted and leaked in the middle of 1-2 laps and because I was smooth and predictable it felt like the tire was just "off" and felt "squishy" like I couldn't lean the bike over as far without it giving me this super soft and unstable feeling at the rear. I began learning trailbraking better and to never increase brake pressure as you increase lean angle. I felt like I was learning how to make *almost* full use of the track and that race lines are there because they are meant to be followed at *optimum speed*. For example running wide after an exit corner is what I should be doing as a byproduct of carrying enough speed that the bike tries to take me to the edge of the track. If i'm easily able to get the bike to the inside of the exit corner it typically means I didn't exit the apex at enough speed.

I'm going to barber and tally this weekend and my mindset will be similar: Focus on the optimum pathing around the track first, allow a couple laps to warm up the tires (as well as ambient temps), and slowly increase speed while maintaining smoothness. My goal will also be to see if my knee touches before or after the tires give me the "flex" or "feedback" that it's on the edge of traction. But this will only be done as long as I am confident, smooth, and predictable. 1% more, 1% more, 1% more, slow and steady increments. At CMP I focused way too much on going fast and trying to catch people on 600s and 1000s, and ended up messing up a lot of my apexes, entries, and it was all a mess looking at it in hindsight.

Order of priority:
1 - warmup tires while focusing on lines, markers, visual cues

2 - slowly increase speed while maintaining consistent lines, ask questions

3 - maintain smoothness and predictability mechanically, with increase in speed = increase in lean angle on a given radius. Slowly and incrementally increase speed, focus more on lap times and lines than trying to look cool dragging a knee.

4- good habits create more good habits.

8 Comments
2024/11/29
13:02 UTC

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Please recommend reliable websites that ship from US

My brother wants to get in to track days in India. I am going there on 12th, so I want order suit and boots for him to take it with me. Currently looking at Alpinestars Supertech R Vented Boots and cycle gear and revzilla have it for full price and euro sites have lower. I am based in Seattle WA Metro area and would appreciate help.

10 Comments
2024/11/29
03:03 UTC

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Gear question: How long does Shoei X-15 take to fully broke in?

TLDR: in your experience, how long does the Shoei X-15 (or any helmet) need to fully broke in?

Full story: My head measures 58.5cm (23in dead on). The M(57-58cm) feels snug around the head, mostly on the cheek pads. I can barely fit the tip of my index in the forehead with some effort. The L(59-60cm) feels comfortable out of the box, my index finger can slide up the front easily. I wanted the L but they guy at the store told me the M padding will loosen up (Shoei website also suggest sizing down)... Long story short, I got the Medium and now after a couple of rides I haven't noticed much difference (1 week), so how long will I need to ride it before I can notice a change?

32 Comments
2024/11/28
23:42 UTC

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Motul 300v

Anyone notice the change in the 300v bottles? No longer says 100% full synthetic on the bottle and the description on the back has gone from a descriptive paragraph to a single sentence. Not a big deal but just curious whats up, only difference i can tell from what it was 6 months ago to now is the smell.

16 Comments
2024/11/28
22:36 UTC

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Does anyone have experience with BisonTrack vegan suits/gloves?

I’m considering the vegan suit and gloves from BisonTrack but was wondering if they hold up well and if they’re allowed for track days or racing?

12 Comments
2024/11/28
21:07 UTC

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Which superbike has the most advanced ECU & rider tech for data logging such?

I heard BMW has really good stuff with rider aid technology, and always heard the ducati v4 is amazing as well.
I have a datalogger coming in soon and want to get a bike that is awesome but also has a shit ton of cool stuff I can track/manage in the ECU with it, as well as very customizable rider aids like tcs, wheelie control, slide control, etc.

I was debating between an r1. r1m, v4s, rsv4, s1000rr, and maybe a couple others here and there. Still doing my research but thought I would ask those who may track theirs like I intend to what they thought.

14 Comments
2024/11/28
16:17 UTC

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Tech Air integration behind suit liner

Hey folks. I want to improve my understanding of the integration of the TA10 and 7x tech air systems behind the liner of suits that allow this. There are 4 things specifically that I would love to hear about.

  1. Ease of installation - What is the level of difficulty of dismantling the airbag from the base layer and attaching it to the suit? I have seen a SBTG video on this, but I appreciate that a video by someone super familiar with these systems and having to work with strange camera angles is not the correct reference even if directionally helpful.
  2. Ease of usage - How easy is it to get in and out of the suit? How easy is to to do routine stuff like charging the airbag, cleaning bugs of the suit etc.
  3. Suits that support this - I understand the A* Racing Absolute V2 does this for the TA10, not sure about the 7x. The A* GP-R7 supports the 7x and I don't know about the TA10. Revit Tailortech (prev Vircos) has a model that also supports this type of integration. Are there are suits which support integration behind the suit?
  4. Comparison with 'zipped-in' integration - There are more suits across manufacturers that allow zipped in attachment at least for the 7x. I imagine it's also less complicated to do this vs. the full integration. Is the full integration behind the liner subjectively better?
17 Comments
2024/11/28
05:36 UTC

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Last TD of the season, 100+ mph crash

Just had my last track day of the season, made a small mistake on the fastest corner of the track and tried to correct it and lost the front. No airbag in the suit and somehow no injuries! I did get banged up pretty good but happy that noting is broken lol 😁

51 Comments
2024/11/28
02:28 UTC

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Woodcraft Rearset - Folding or non folding?

Hey gang

I broke a footpeg on my ninja 400 this season and I am using it as a reason to finally upgrade to some woodcraft rearsets.

Anyone have opinions or experience with folding vs non folding rearsets? I can't decide which ones to buy. I'm mostly concerned with crash survivability, and cost to repair if I end up breaking them.

Any input is appreciated, cheers!

20 Comments
2024/11/28
01:54 UTC

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Rental leathers

Anyone know an org that offers rental leathers? Preferably that runs at Summit or NJMP. Buying my buddy a track day for his birthday but he doesn’t have leathers. Everything else is covered.

9 Comments
2024/11/28
01:08 UTC

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Looking for track fairings for 959 Panigale

What do people recommend?

2 Comments
2024/11/27
19:50 UTC

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Tips for first time at Buttonwillow?

I'll be heading to Buttonwillow with Trackdaz both days this weekend in B group. First time there. $100 rental for a garage is a bit steep, so I will set up an canopy. I assume there's space to put an EZ Up in the pit area.

Am I allowed to drop off my bike and things on Friday afternoon/ evening? Is it safe to do so?

Any oddities/ unique things about Buttonwillow (facilities or the track itself) I should know? I am aware that there are some bumps in corners right in the racing line, so will watch out for that. My goal is to learn the lines and steadily increase pace through the weekend. It's going to be a cold couple days, but should be fun.

14 Comments
2024/11/27
19:16 UTC

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[MEME] Godspeed too btw

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2024/11/27
17:15 UTC

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