Do in season 5, Katherine takes over Elena a body as a passenger. Whenever Nina plays Katherine, her voice is deeper and raspier than Elena (and on the opposite end, Amara was much softer and more confused than base Elena)

But after Katherine was expelled, Elenas voice remained raspy and deeper, than her usual soft, not super confident Elena

Is this on purpose as a character, or did Nina’s voice just change around thst time, unrelated to the show?

I'm confused at this because if she deserved better then she deserves better than Enzo. How can you say Bonnie deserves better, and then claim that Enzo should have never died when putting her with Enzo wasn't a good thing for her character.

I get it, her only Love interest was Jeremy so it's nice she gets another one. But why does she have to settle for Enzo and why do people want her to settle for Enzo

Jeremy won started ok and ended ok with 16 votes and Elena was second with 5 votes.

Next: who started good and ended ok?

Note: each comment counts as one vote, upvotes don’t count towards votes.

Side note: people have mentioned voting has been a bit all over the place in terms of which category they fall into like morality, how well they’re written, likability, etc. Originally I thought the votes could just be “overall” good, ok, and bad but it’s up to you guys if you want it changed.

Since we’re halfway through idek what category to say it should be lol but let me know what you guys think it should be and I can add it in the rest of the posts or if you guys are fine with more “in general” votes despite being inconsistent that’s fine too😊

I honestly feel like he'd be a lot like Caroline as far as doing the best he could with what he had. He was also never opposed to being one, and at one point in season 1, he starts to look the part. the hair, the mannerisms lol, when i first watched i really thought they were gonna go that direction. of all the people, the character who genuinely wanted to be a vampire from the start of finding out about them, isn't one??? ugh the potential here. and maybe he could possibly still have him be a hunter, then it would've been cool to see those things clash and made his character more interesting. those things being seemingly impossible to happen would've been cool to see. his theme could've been "duality" or something cheesy like that or he’s meant to kill the thing he’s most attracted to or the thing that he is, that he happens to love to be.

it wasn't explored as much as it could've been, but i feel like the writers wanted elena to have this protectiveness over jeremy, that wouldn't have made much sense anymore if he was a vampire, so they dropped it. i don't know obviously, but just a guess. they wanted to keep him as the little brother who needs to stay in the dark as much as possible until its inevitable.

elena also might would've ate as a hybrid...hm should i just submit my reboot idea or what lol

Now I have watched this show ( and the originals) a truly embarrassing amount of times… for years there is not a day that goes by where something through out my day doesn’t make me think of the tvd universe! That being said…

When I find out the person im talking to (friend, coworker, random person…etc )has never seen the show, they usually respond with a fake “ oh I’ll have to check that out “…. But I know they probably won’t. Then there is the beautifully rare occasion that I’ve made such a compelling case for it, the person does seem genuinely interested in checking it out! Here’s where we come to the point of my post… Does anyone know of a trailer, or a video edit of the show that they find amazing!? Something that you have thought was such a good representation of the show, and it was so good you go back and watch it sometimes..?!!!? For example: there is a klaus Mikaelson YouTube video that is hands down the most amazing one I’ve ever come across and it is the perfect representation of who he is. And I’ve watched this persons video a million times it’s so good! Now when I went to find a vampire diaries trailer they were all absolutely embarrassing and terrible! They did not make encompass rhe show and draw a new person into the story!

Does anyone have any recommendations please!?

I am full on ugly crying at Bonnie's funeral I haven't cried this hard at a show in forever 😭😭

Honestly, I have to say I don't like any of the male characters in the TVDU. I love Bonnie, Elena and sometimes Caroline.

But none of the male characters.

I used to like Damon, but now through adult eyes, I feel like he has the tendency to create more problems for our female protaganist.

He makes sense for Elena and I love that they got together because, to me, they are each other's twin flame.

Stefan? His inconsistency in writing gets on my nerves so much that I despise him. He's so self righteous to an abnoxious degree.

I love Stefan in the books and I did ship Stelena in the books. They were perfect.

Klaus? Like Damon, he causes problems a lot of problems that he tries to fix with more problems. Yes, very comical, but it just goes in a circle. Being a great father to Hope is his only redeeming quality.

I guess that leaves Matt, Tyler and Enzo as the only male characters that I can stand.

Enzo? He has his reasons for his actions and he was pretty decent to Bonnie and Caroline. Yes, the bar is set that low.

Tyler? I liked him and it was total crap how he was treated just to make (I don't care enough to list that Klaus and Caroline ship name, so enter it here) happen.

Matt? I used to dislike him but then I grew up and realized that he had every right to say and feel the things he did. Vamps destroyed that town and more than once.

Honestly, I probably would have less issues with the show if there were more females.

FYI. I wish they had just left Elena's sisters from the books in the show, but just aged her up to like 13 or something.

I have no proof, it's just a head cannon, but I see Margaret as that little sibling that would totally call everyone out on their crap 24/7. With no filter.

Kind of like a balanced version of Katherine.

Heyo all,
So I have almost finished TVD (S-8;EP-8), so what should I watch next like "The Originals" or "Legacies" and why ? Like which timeline suits just after TVD, I am confused af please help 🌚

For me it has to be when Klaus took idk how many litres of blood from Elena and the rest of the cast gives her hard liquor with the intention of making her feel better. This happens at least twice in the series. As someone who donates blood regularly, you really don’t want to drink alcohol after losing big amounts of blood lmao. It will take you out.

I started a rewatch of Vampire Diaries. I’m the end end of season 2 and man I forgot how annoying Jeremy is! He’s completely useless - doesn’t know how to fight, has no strength or powers, etc. But once he gets that stupid ring dude thinks he’s just completely invincible. Every single time he does something dumb (like going after Damon) or wanting to run into danger with the rest of them (“Bonnie, I’m going with you, I need to make sure you’re safe” - Like how bro?! HOW?! And she says “who’s going to make sure you’re safe” and his response - “I’ve got my ring” as he holds his dumb hand up to show it because he just HAS to do that every.single.time.

Okay, rant over! Anyone else feel he was super annoying? I do feel like he got better later on when he at least learned to fight and became a hunter so had some skills. But goodness, before that, he just didn’t understand how useless he was!

Trigger warning: I haven’t watched the show in full- As Stelena broke up, so did my interest in the show. But I do know the storyline, and I have a theory. In the episode where Elena and Stefan have visions of their lives as humans, doesn’t it feel like Elena was only with Damon because he couldn’t just be a friend, and she didn’t want to lose him? It’s almost as if Elena wanted both guys in her life(Katherine descendant🫠), and Stefan, always putting her first, stepped back so she wouldn’t lose Damon, especially after she lost so many people.

Who thought Alaric was a vampire in the beginning when he 1st came to the show?

Guys let’s be honest here, if Hope didn’t make her mother disappear in the first place the guy that Hope let inside her house wouldnt had gotten inside her head and find the location she had her mother hidden. Do I also blame Ellijah for Hayley’s death? Yes Ellijah was partly responsible but at the same time I can’t fully blame him bcoz he had his memory wiped for the sake of forgetting abt his family so he wouldn’t put himself and his niece in danger just for him to try and save them, he didn’t remember Hayley, he did had the knowledge that he loved her and he remembered HER when she come to see him, but still it wasn’t enough for Ellijah to fully remember her. Ellijah had his memories wiped primarily because he thought it was the best thing to do so he couldn’t come closer to his family.

Hope used her mother so she could just see her father, it’s understandable but unfortunately she played with her mother’s life in the line which is what lead ultimately to Hayley’s death. Argue what you want but at the end of the day it’s Hope who started the missing thing In the first place 🤷🏾‍♀️

In my honest opinion I really think Damon was misunderstood in that peoples view of Stefan’s good natured character expect when he’s the ripper overshadowed Damon’s way of showing his love. His love language basically was being mean to you. Like Damon’s way of showing his love was not really romantic but it was in your best interest as far as his knowledge went and he was very loving with his friends even if there was a difficulty to show it. Stefan’s openness overshadowed that and people labeled Damon as the evil one when he actually was nice but in a mean way. And all his violent choices had a good reason because somehow somewhere Stefan always got what Damon wanted first and he was kind of like the last resort

EVEN AFTER I SAID THIS IT REALLY DOESNT EXCUSE THE BAD THINGS HE DID TO PEOPLE AND I MEANT THIS IN TERMS OF ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIPS AND FRIENDSHIPS. FOR THE REST I REALLY CANNOT DEFEND HIM

people just highlight the fact that caroline slept with a bunch of guys on the show. calling her a hoe, slut, easy and everything else. it’s so weird because both damon and stefan slept with just as many, maybe more women on the show. but that’s okay because people are attracted to them lol.

yeah she slept with a lot of guys but so what? what about it? anyway, i just saw people once again calling caroline a hoe and it’s annoying considering the guys on this show have done it and don’t get called “easy”, or “a bop”. tale as old as time i guess. it’s 2024 though get a grip lol.

So in the prison world how and when any of the stuff in the shop respawned? or the newspaper every day? If Damon and Bonnie just stayed in the shop the everything would respawn in front of their eyes?

Rewatching the show and I will never understand why the group didn’t come up with some kind of signal or word or something to know it was Elena after Katherine had tricked them multiple times. Write a word down and then burn the paper. Change it every week or something

TW: SA, ABUSE, STATUTORY RAPE

Before I start this rant, this is not me disparaging anybody for liking damon. Hell, I liked him when I first started watching. I'm not calling anyone an asshole or pedophile or abuser for liking him, because in a lot of ways, he's a charming character, and Ian Somerhalder played him exceptionally well.

But after being SA'd, I started realizing how much a completele dickward he was.

When I first watched TVD, I honestly didn't really think thru it that much. But Elena was 17 when she met Damon while Damon was over 100 years old, and please don't give me the (but he was turned at blah blah blah). It just really creeped me out. Also the fact that Damon tried to compel Elena to kiss him....does consent not exist in the vampiric world? I also never got over how quickly people excused what he did to caroline. He was a 200 year old vampire, sleeping with a 17 year old, and constantly compelling her, and forcing her to let him suck her blood. He even got so far as choking her. That's both sexual and physical abuse.

I know Damon is supposed to be the "bad guy" at the beginning of the series. But the way they get over what he did is un-redeeming. Throughout the show, it never felt like he felt bad, and I would've been fine with it if they hadn't tried to give him a sob story and make him seem like an anti-hero.

"yeah, I had sex with a minor and abused her, but my daddy abused me, and I had to go to war, and my lover betrayed me, so my actions are justified."

I honestly felt like, if the writers had acknowledged what he'd did (especially the having s3x with minors part) instead of shoving it aside, then I would've liked him alot more. There are asshole characters that have done way worse than him, but I still love. The reason I love them is because the writers do not justifiy their actions, or give them a sob story, or try to make them into a hero.

I feel like if we had gotten better, AND non-racist (looking at you Julie Plec) showrunners, Damon would've been a waaaay better character.

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Just finished S1 for the first time, and I kinda need to rant because I’m dying to talk about it, but no one I know has seen tvd 🥲.

I’m really sad over Anna’s death, I really liked her and thought she was going to be a regular on the show for a while. The scene between Jeremy and Damon in ep22, when they talk about her death, made me cry a little. It’s probably one of my favorites of the entire season and def my favorite Damon moment. It’s the first time we really see his humanity, I think. I know he showed care for Katherine, Elena, and Stefan in earlier episodes, but Anna isn’t someone he has personal stakes with like they are, yet he’s still so sad about her death.
Also, I’m very happy that I actually like Elena! I usually have issues with female leads who are damsels in distress because I find them boring and kind of annoying. But Elena really stands up for herself, and I love that! The only thing I don’t enjoy at all is the disrespect toward Stefan with all the flirting with Damon, but some people have already told me that’s a big thing in the show, so I guess I’ll just have to accept it, haha.

Honestly, I went in with some prejudices, thinking it was just another love triangle drama. But the story outside of the romance is actually so good! I wasn’t expecting to get this hooked.
Thank you for reading this far and I’d love to hear about your own experiences with your first watch of the show

Delena’s first kiss!!! AHHHH!!! One of my ABSOLUTE FAVORITE scenes!!! 🩷🩷🩷✨✨✨

“No, you know what, If I’m going to feel guilty about something, I’m going to feel guilty about this”

Imagine how crazy the plot would be if she had done that! What would you guys think would have happened after the fact?

It is annoying that the first 3 or 4 times she shows up on screen everyone keeps mentioning Elena used to babysit her. We get it.

I know it is probably more annoying in the era of binge watching, but there was so much exposition for such a forgettable character.

To the point where I forgot who she was recently when someone made a post about how annoying she was.