Spent a long time reading and came to the conclusion that i am IEI and the descriptions on wikisocion are relatable/similar to me.

But like now what , what am i supposed to do with this information exactly?

Work on my Polr Te? How ?

I don't know exactly what the path from here is now

Why do some types need to suffer ?

What's the benefit of it ?

Can one of you NTs summarize the Polrs of each socion for me? Less reading makes easier decision making maybe…

My type is a little up in the air, but strong Fi is pretty much a given. And a lot of the time I Just Know how people feel about each other. For example:

I was once watching a YouTube VOD of a streamer I like. The Twitch chat wasn't visible, but sometimes he'd read out messages. So this happened:

Streamer: Sometimes I forget [thing in game] exists.

Streamer, reading a message from one of his mods aloud: "Sometimes I forget YOU exist."

Streamer: [Mod's name], you're here for every stream.

And in that moment, I was struck with sudden and total certainty that that Twitch mod was in love with him. It was just something about the way they were gently teasing him and pretending not to like him while still always showing up for him. Was I right? I'll never know, but I wouldn't be surprised if my instinct was correct.

So yeah. What can your type do that others might view as a superpower?

Hi! I'm trying to self-type according to Gulenko's subtype system because I really like it. Unfortunately, I'm having trouble choosing between EIE-N and ILI-D since both descriptions fit me very well. For EIE-N, I found an interesting description on Reddit that mentions its frequent use of role Te. However, for ILI, I feel like I’m lacking additional sources besides Gulenko.

Does anyone have a detailed description of ILI-D? Or could someone explain, in your opinion, how these two specific subtypes differ and how to distinguish between them?

I used this comparison: https://sociotype.xyz/mc and took the test on that site. Both results point to EIE. However, I’m wondering if possibly being a dominant subtype could explain the beta values in the results.

To be honest, I would really like to be EIE because I find LSI more attractive. However, I have concerns that this might just be an illusion caused by the benefit relationship.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!

i've been typed EII several times, but i've been questioning Fe polr. if your polr causes you stress and resistance, then i can see me having Fe polr. i heavily doubt Te aux though. Fi lead is also kind of meh, mainly because there's a lot of humanistic shit tied into every description of them you see, when i'm generally very selfish and self absorbed lol. i don't like "healing" people.

could be Fe polr:

• when emoting, i have to make a conscious effort to smile and engage myself.
• i always have a feeling like i am doing something wrong in a conversation, though that could just be insecurity/shame.
• i dislike exchanging pleasantries, and they make me cringe.
• when group emotions change and become loud and expressive, i feel like i'm suddenly adrift, and i have to push myself into following what others are doing. my voice can be extremely monotone when i feel inhibited.
• most people have told me that they thought i hated them at first. i have a rbf and intense eyes.
• i don't have a natural way of speaking, everything i say is usually word by word, as if i'm making it up as it goes along
• (aka i do not consider the entire sentence when i speak. this leads to me trailing off, or expecting people to understand me based on a few words... woops).
• i am very soft spoken.
• i do not feel comfortable using expressive body language, though i force myself to sometimes.
• i have had people make assumptions about my feelings that were completely inaccurate, based on my disposition.

could not be:

• i'm very expressive over text, and when i want to be my voice is extremely expressive.
• i am very aware of when people commit a social social faux-pas.
• i'm great at reading people's emotions; it's so intuitive that i don't even have to try.
• i tend to present myself as emotionally engaging to new people, because i admire people who are emotive and friendly.
• i have tried to train myself to be emotive and friendly, treating social interactions like a (painful) game where i need to do the right social cues to get the right reactions.
• i believe a lot of my Fe issues could just be related to shame around expressiveness, rather than socionics. though, that makes me wonder just how much shame is related to socionics.. lol.

Just as the title says. I've seen a lot of compatibility/romantic videos on socionics. Since it's not as prevalent. I always see a divide on the list between these two intertypes. ( Mirror and semi duel)

Sometimes mirror is higher because of same functions. Sometimes semi is higher with seeking functions. Ie. Se-ni ni-se.

Also does irrational/rational types factor in?

I'm curious as to what you guys think. I would love to understand this better and share opinions

I have a difficult time choosing my battles and knowing when to walk away. I appreciate people with foresight who can advise me on this, though people like that are exceedingly rare.

My supervisee type, LII, particularly frustrates me because they instead tend to just watch me shoot myself in the foot without saying anything and I’m sitting here wondering, “all that brain, and for what?”

It’s ironic though, because I’m my mom’s supervisee type as well and she shares that exact sentiment when it comes to my Te demonstrative: “all that brain, and for what?”

I wonder if this is a common theme with the demonstrative element.

After searching for information from all places, I'm sure that whatever I have about POLR has to be related to feeling because I struggle a lot with it since I was little. But I don't know exactly which one, FE or FI (or maybe is not feeling but another one that I hadn't considered yet)

For example, I like the atmosphere of good vibes, humor or being chill talking to all kinds of people, both friends and strangers.

Even though sometimes I don't know what to say or I'm not interested in talking, when I want to get something done I'm able to generate those conversations of interest to me thanks to "provoking" them through small words or by talking to the person I think is the right one at the right time saying something specific that will probably cause a group conversation that I want to get to, something like a domino effect.

I also agree with fi polr that it bothers me when people take things so personally and that I'm bad at understanding what I really feel in a particular situation.

When people ask me "how do you feel about this" I feel like my brain freezes for a few seconds, like the disk inside my head gets scratched because I don't know how to answer.

But when it comes to tastes or people, I do tend to say "I like so-and-so" even though I don't really know if I like them or not, but simply because they did something interesting or funny or I had a good chat. But it's not always like that because I have many interesting chats with people but I couldn't tell you if I really like them or not. Or I can say that I like to talk about certain topics that interest me at the moment but then when they stop interesting me I don't care.

I tend to be insecure when it comes to my own personality or if I'm perceived in the best light, so I tend to be direct with my friends and tell them "Hey, what am I doing wrong??" with the intention that they are honest about me or sometimes I'm abrupt and tell people directly that if what I did bothered them, no matter what happened, I value sincerity a lot because I'm not sure how they feel since I know that there has been a before and after from an action made by me thanks to factors such as the expression on their face or their position or their attitude, so I come to the conclusion that I offended or bothered them, but I don't know exactly why, because it doesn't bother me when people argue with me in a logical way.

I also don't like myself or other people to be very deep with their feelings. I mean, I try not to be rude, but you can tell by my face a certain discomfort when someone opens up to me. Anyway, my answers try to be very empathetic (from my pov), although it is super uncomfortable for me.

I am a contradiction, I know I have feelings and sometimes I am even quite sensitive but I struggle a lot knowing what my "real" feelings are.

Do I have fi polr, fi suggestive, fe polr or what the heck is it? or am I just getting too confused?

Thanks so much for reading. I'll see if I can rule out some types until I find my own. Thanks in advance for the help 🫡

I (22F, either EII or IEI but I grew up with alpha quadra so it is difficult to figure it out as I've got a lot of alpha quadra values) am really bored. I haven't had many life experiences but it feels as if I have, just in a diferent way than most people.

For example, I have never even kissed anyone, I've been avoiding that because I always wanted it to be with someone special to me/who would be gentle and extremely caring towards me (to have an experience to remember forever), and I never found that in anyone (I did have crushes on people but couldn't be with them because they were always already married and they were older than me so my crushes were kept a secret, I was always attracted to people who were between 28 and 42, yes I am aware that might be weird but I always found that maturity so attractive, they always had that caring mature energy which would draw me to them) and now it's whatever, I don't feel like I need to experience kiss, it's just a kiss. But I experienced it in a dream a lot and it felt realistic so it feels as if I experienced it anyway (I think I am good at imagining how sensory things would feel despite never actually having them haha).

I had an "experimenting" phase (alcohol and nicotine) and realized that such hedonism isn't my lifestyle: I drank alcohol many times this year and once (2 months ago) I got myself drunk to the point I had to be taken care of because I had a serious blackout (don't remember a lot of things from that night but I know I was vomitting a lot and I couldn't even stand and I had to be carried outside, and at some point I became conscious and felt as if I was going to die from intoxication, I literally got so scared for my life). I was lucky I was surrounded by ESEs and SEIs who were willing to help me get through that terrible experience because who knows how I would handle that night otherwise... I remember, a month before that, one person suggested we drink and I was like "sure haha" but another person (ESE) asked me "who is gonna be able to take care of you if you get seriously drunk?" and I didn't drink, I listened to her somewhat indirect advice not to drink. And she was right. Drinking is not for me, it's just not... Me? I guess.

I tried nicotine too, I was vaping for a few months but not much, I did it mostly for the taste rather than nicotine (I stopped, after what happened yesterday - will tell that soon). I tried nicotine pouches a few times and yesterday was the last time, LII gave me nicotine pouches and I put one on my gum for 20 minutes. I was feeling dizzy, felt like vomitting and could barely stand, I felt so weak and uncomfortable (he said "you decided to take it, now deal with it haha"). Now nicotine disgusts me. And it ruins my health so my experimentation with unhealthy things has officially finished. I don't want to ruin my health more. I feel terrible in my body if I take unhealthy things for too long.

So I realized that lifestyle isn't mine. I prefer to go for a coffee or for cappuccino (or hot chocolate in winter), to go swimming in summer, to go ice skating in winter, to go to the river, etc. That's much better. But still, my life is so boring. I'll read about things/study about what I like (psychology and understanding the way different people perceive world differently) but it feels as if there is nothing left to discover and I am very bored. Anyone else feels like this? What do you do for fun? Please don't forget to mention your Socionics type (I'm curious) :)

So I haven’t ever really looked into the Reinin dichotomies that much, so I thought I would go through 15 of them and figure out which ones I relate to. For the purposes of this post, I’m actually not familiar with all 15 dichotomies and where SLE falls on ALL of them. I’m curious to see the same for you guys.

1. Irrational
2. Extraverted
3. Sensing
4. Logic
5. Static (I think so, because I tend to view my life in stages/states rather than something that is “continuously” changing)
6. Result (more than process)
7. Negativist (but the rational negativist saying how things “should not be” is specifically more relatable than the irrational negativist saying what things “are not”)
8. Declarer (so far this was the clearest dichotomy for me)
9. Constructivist (for sure, I even rewatch scenes from shows/movies and listen to songs or even specific parts of songs that make me feel something)
10. Farsighted (definitely, though I’m curious to see what types are actually farsighted after I’m done, because this sounds like a strong Intuitive thing even though I know it can’t be since that dichotomy is already accounted for)
11. Yielding (though I don’t think I feel quite as strongly to say that resources are ‘sacred’ and intrusions will be met with a strong reaction)
12. Strategist (tbh, this dichotomy sounds way to similar to results vs process. I’ll admit that I wish I were more “tactical” though.)
13. Merry/Subjectivist (yeah, serious/objectivist types are boring. I’m familiar with this dichotomy though, and now I have to retype my best friend from SEE to ESE now. Yikes. I think I mistook us being Merry Extraverted Sensors for being Se Leads)
14. Decisive (very, extremely decisive, when I’m on I’m on and then I desperately need some food and a movie or show to turn off. I also completely ignore work conditions if the results/reward are worth it for me) (lmao I just noticed that this is the same as being Central… and yeah, my best friend does not fit this description at all, where I have to kick him off his ass to get moving and he gets irritated with me when I’m “on” while he’s in relaxing-mode)
15. Aristocratic (let’s rename this dichotomy, because it’s not even accurate and very misleading. Even Collectivist vs Individualist may not be perfect but gets the point across way better)

What are the most noticable differences between them? I've typed myself as an ILE but the possibility of me being a LII doesn't seem low to me. What are the main things that differ between them?

What do you think about Inert/Contact theory. Do you think it makes sense or just adding unnecessary details and confusion to types. That pseudo-types according subtypes is interesting.

For example IEE-Ne goes to gamma NT, ESI-Se goes to delta ST etc. How accurate do you think these accentuations?

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So I've typed as SI polr for some time, but I'm not sure if most of my attributed are due to my SI polr nature, or purely due to situational and environmental influences which have caused me to have a SI polr tint.

For reference, most of my typing of SI polr comes from the fact that I both:

1. Focus very much on how I look and am deeply insecure of my appearance. The issues with this is that this is a direct by-product of me being bullied pretty deeply throughout middle and early high school being obese, causing me to be "body-dysmorphic". The hyper-fixation on by body and my face is more-so a byproduct of environmental factors and wanting to prove myself "physically perfect" in this department, rather then any inherent issues with my body.

2. I did worry about my health quite a bit, but that too is a byproduct of health issues I suffered from as a child. Before this I never really cared, it's more experiences which caused me to be more hyper-aware of my body and my health. Now I take on a more "whatever, it is what it is" mindset towards this too.

I also don't have this internal feeling of doom, or as one NI dom wrote it "bad moon rising"...really ever. Honestly - my mindset is a lot more apathetic, a lot of my issues which I've gone through in life can really be summed up as "this is good, this will help you improve. There's always a bright side". A lot of times i don't think too much about the future, I have an idea of what to do for the future, but I don't care much for hyper-focusing and catatrophizing something which hasn't even happened yet.

And even worst-case scenario, I would still be sort of apathetic and optimistic, between a sort of "yeah, whatever, gotta fix shit better next time" and "this is good, the struggle will make you tougher" mindset.

Especially since I was raised by a very clear EIE who constantly catastrophized, worried for the worst, assumed the worst in the future and over-analyzed things which didn't need overanalyzing - I've never really felt that way. Many times I even would have to over-do reactions for these times (usually NI egos) where I'd act more upset about something, act more fearful of the future then I really am.

In big five, my neurotic traits are quite low as well.

But this also means it can take some sort of worrying for me to actually change my behaviors, otherwise they remain consistent. I don't feel that terrifying fear which NI creatives commonly fear, that the future is terrible and that they want it "slapped in their face now" - I've always felt sort of controlled in the present, and assumed the future is some malleable thing which would be influenced by behaviors which I change in the current.

And also vice versa, why do ethics+questimity (EIE, IEI, SEE, ESI) and logic+declatimity (LSI, SLE, ILI, LIE) equal Centrality (valueing Ni+Se)

I've read descriptions about how do NT and SF equal democratic and ST and NF equal aristocratic but none about above questions.

Can someone knowledgeable about Reinin dichotomies explain?

there was a tie between IEI and IEE but I think the former is generally favored more.

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Hello everyone! I have been trying to type myself for a while, and recently landed on IEI, but I still have my doubts. I would really apprectiate any suggestions :)

Section 1

1. How do you work? Why do people go to work? Are there any parameters that determine whether you can do work or not? What are they?

I work hard and cannot rest until my tasks are completed. I need to know the job is done before I can take a break. Breaks are rare for me; otherwise, I lose focus. Often, I don’t notice my fatigue right away and continue working until exhaustion. I rely on close ones to help me take a break. Why do people go to work? To earn money, obviously. Factors that influence productivity include your knowledge, skills, mood, and health. The fewer the skills and the worse the mood, the lower the quality of work. Health also plays a role but varies greatly between individuals. Environmental factors like temperature, noise, brightness, comfort, and organization also matter but are not equally important to everyone.

2. How do you determine the quality of work? How do you determine the quality of a purchase? Do you pay attention to it?

Work quality can be assessed objectively—time taken, evaluation metrics; and subjectively—worker endurance, attention to detail, creativity. Sometimes results diverge from requirements but still achieve the goal. For example, in a history exam, a person may forget dates but describe events and eras in detail, which demonstrates understanding. Purchase quality is judged by its usefulness in its intended field. Lifespan, performance, and efficiency determine quality, and the price doesn’t always correlate.

3. There is a professional next to you. How do you know they are a professional? How do you evaluate their skill?

I evaluate by observation. I want to see how they demonstrate their skills, apply their knowledge practically, and mentor less experienced colleagues. It’s also important to see how their skills perform in various scenarios—stressful, collaborative, solo, etc.

4. If you struggle to do something, how do you fix that? Do you know if your performance is better or worse than others?

Initially, I react emotionally. Once I regain composure, I analyze my mistakes to avoid them in the future. I may observe how others perform the task, learn from articles and guides, or seek help from experts or close ones. To evaluate my work quality, I consider the effort (analysis, execution, presentation, time) and feedback from supervisors. For me, knowing I gave my best effort is enough, even if others outperform me.

5. How do you measure the success of a job? What standard do you use? Do you pay attention to it? When should you deviate from this standard?

I already addressed similar questions above. I value quality and pay attention to how others perform similar tasks. I listen to criticism and avoid repeating mistakes. Deviating from standards happens when the work lacks personal enjoyment, logical benefit (e.g., salary, experience), or motivation.

Section 2

1. What is a whole? Can you identify its parts? Are the parts equivalent to the whole?

The whole is the sum of all its parts. If you remove one part, the picture changes. That’s why I try to give attention to every detail.

2. What does "logical" mean? What is your understanding? Do you think that it correlates with the common view? How do you know you are being logical?

Logic, to me, is what makes sense and brings maximum benefit compared to other options. My idea of logic doesn’t always align with others; I’m more of a nonconformist. What others see as an established order may seem chaotic or baseless to me and vice versa. I know I’m logical when my decisions benefit others, gain their support, and expand knowledge or efficiency while minimizing discomfort for most people, including minorities.

3. What is hierarchy? Give examples of hierarchies. Do you need to follow it? Why or why not? Explain how hierarchy is used in a system you are familiar with.

Hierarchy is the relationship where one person has more rights and responsibilities than others, and the latter must follow them. I see nothing wrong with hierarchy as a system; we’ve been surrounded by it our whole lives, but in practice, it doesn’t always work. A basic workplace hierarchy: Manager > Administrator > Supervisor > Employee. I believe power comes with responsibility. Those in authority should follow rules strictly, respect subordinates, and help them grow. Leaders should remember what it took to achieve their position and how much their subordinates depend on them. Healthy communication and mutual growth emerge from this dynamic.

4. What is classification? How does classification work? Why is it needed and where is it applied? Give examples.

Classification groups similar things together for better understanding. It’s used in all sciences. Linguists classify languages, doctors classify bacteria and medications, and zoologists classify living beings. Even professions like linguists, doctors, and zoologists are classified. Without classifications, it would be harder to comprehend, study, or share knowledge—even grocery shopping would be more confusing without product categories.

5. Are your ideas consistent? How do you know they are consistent? How do you spot inconsistency in others' ideas?

Yes, my ideas are thoroughly developed and interconnected. I won’t proceed with a plan until all gaps are addressed because a flaw in one link could break the whole chain. I am also attentive to others' ideas and can spot inconsistencies. I fear my own inconsistencies and strive for perfection. If a task is crucial, I will refine it until it’s flawless, or I’ll be haunted by obsessive thoughts about its "imperfection."

Section 3

1. Can you press people? What methods do you use? How does it happen?

I’m not someone who pushes others. People are different; some need a gentle approach, others a stricter one. I prefer diplomacy and compromise. Pressuring others makes me feel harsh and inconsiderate. Occasionally, I ask people to speed up or stop stalling, but it’s usually conveyed through a dissatisfied tone or emotion.

2. How do you get what you want? What do you do if you have to work to get what you want?

Life has taught me that much depends on luck and the people around you, but I pursue what I want directly. I push myself to keep going, motivated by desire. I never resort to deceit or manipulation and believe in honest work paying off.

3. How do you deal with opposition? What methods do you use to defend your interests?

Opposition is difficult for me. If I doubt or am unsure of what I want (which happens often), I may quickly lose interest or quit. New endeavors with fear of judgment or numerous barriers can panic me into abrupt abandonment. I often need someone to motivate or defend me. However, if my boundaries are repeatedly crossed or loved ones are threatened, I can be extremely tough and act decisively without mercy.

4. When do you think it's okay to occupy someone's space? Do you recognize it?

It depends on the situation. If I’m promoted and someone is fired to make room for me, I probably won’t be too upset. But if I have a connection with the person or see how it ruins their life, I’d feel uncomfortable. Generally, I’m not aggressive about climbing the career ladder. I’d only take someone’s spot if I urgently needed it.

5. Do others think you are a strong-willed person? Do you think you have a strong will?

People around me think I am. If I truly want something, I’ll do whatever it takes to get it. Many of my actions aim to improve others’ lives, where I’m uncompromising. Personally, I’m not sure. It’s hard to find something personal worth fiercely fighting for, and conflicts cause me significant discomfort and fear. Without strong support, I doubt myself a lot.

Section 4

1. How do you satisfy your physical senses? What examples can you give? What physical experiences are you drawn to?

I satisfy my physical needs through good food and drinks, hugs, music, sports, or lying down to relax. Cleanliness is very important to me; I pay close attention to personal hygiene and maintaining order in my surroundings. I enjoy tidying up, although I sometimes feel a bit lazy about it. Loud music draws me in. It helps me release emotions, whether by dancing, listening deeply, or retreating into myself. Occasionally, I crave speed and adrenaline but often hesitate to participate due to fear or sudden disinterest.

2. How do you find harmony with your environment? How do you build a harmonious environment? What happens if this harmony is disturbed?

Cleanliness is the minimum requirement for harmony in a physical space. When your home is tidy, and everything is in its place, you feel at home. But cleanliness isn’t enough; smell, brightness, color, quality of repairs, and room organization also matter. A house should have balance—nothing should be excessive or lacking. I lean toward minimalism because too many details can confuse or overwhelm.

3. What does comfort mean to you? How do you create it?

Comfort means being clean, wearing stylish, well-fitting clothes, feeling full and rested, and having an organized environment. To create comfort, I respond to my body’s needs and maintain cleanliness and order. Music is also crucial; it helps me process emotions. I have four playlists for different moods. Music improves my productivity and even affects my body, like regulating temperature, alleviating pain, or relaxing muscles.

4. How do you express yourself in your hobbies? How do you engage yourself with those things?

I don’t really have hobbies... On Pinterest, I save photos that resonate with me or express my feelings. In games, I try to find characters similar to myself. I don’t enjoy playing characters I merely like; I want to "insert myself into the game" and immerse in its world.

5. Tell us how you'd design any room, house, or office. Do you do it yourself, or trust someone else to do it? Why?

If I wanted to redesign a room or space, I’d hire professionals to implement my ideas, consulting with the lead designer. While I have my own preferences, I believe architects or designers are more experienced and can create the perfect design. I’d collaborate with them to realize my vision.

Section 5

1. Is it acceptable to express emotions in public? Give examples of inappropriate expression of emotions.

Yes, expressing emotions in public is acceptable. However, there should be certain norms—for example, loud noises or laughter late at night in residential areas are inappropriate. You’re free to feel joy or sadness, but you should respect others' space. I love people who are bright and bring joy, creating an atmosphere of happiness and celebration by being open about their feelings.

2. How do you express your emotions? Can you tell how your expressions affect others in a positive or negative way?

It’s hard for me to express emotions. As a child, I was impulsive and reactive but didn’t cause conflicts. However, I struggled to control negativity, which often tired those around me. Over time, I’ve become more restrained but now struggle to share emotions with others, making it harder to connect with friends. When excited, I can be noisy and expect others to share my enthusiasm; if they don’t, I withdraw. Over the years, I’ve often felt "empty" and longed for a strong, stable person to energize me emotionally. I also use humor to express emotions—when I’m upset, my jokes become more sarcastic or harsh.

3. Are you able to change your demeanor in order to interact with your environment in a more or less suitable way? How do you determine what is suitable?

Yes, I can adapt my demeanor quickly. At work or university, I naturally become neutral and friendly in large groups. In one-on-one interactions with close ones, I’m often grumpier, which bothers me as it feels like I’m more demanding of them rather than just "being myself." I don’t consciously choose my approach—it’s instinctive. I know no one likes a dull or gloomy person, and I enjoy bringing positivity to others. Choosing the selfish option feels wrong to me.

4. In what situations do you feel others' feelings? Can you give examples of when you wanted to improve the mood of others?

I feel others' emotions when they express them openly or when I imagine their struggles. Watching movies where someone grieves can make me cry, especially if it resonates with my own experiences. After my grandmother’s death, I empathize deeply with scenes of loss and often cry uncontrollably. Even without similar experiences, I absorb others' emotions to some extent. For example, funny Reddit stories evoke emotions similar to those described. Music also significantly influences my mood, often requiring me to change it intentionally to avoid sadness or to relax.

5. How do others' emotions affect you? How does your internal emotional state correlate or contrast with what you express?

Others’ emotions can quickly affect me. An enthusiastic person energizes me if I’m open to interaction, but if I’m not, they overwhelm me, forcing me to retreat. Similarly, a sad person’s mood temporarily transfers to me if I can support them. If not, I’m less affected but may find their melancholy exhausting.

Section 6

1. How can you tell how much emotional space there is between yourself and others? How can you affect this space?

I notice it when someone gets tired of my emotions or, conversely, feels energized by them. Over time, through interaction, you can see your impact—whether you calm, energize, or overwhelm someone. Based on this, I adjust my emotional intensity to ensure the other person is comfortable. Sometimes, I feel that few people consider how they affect others, but I pay attention to this and try to create a comfortable atmosphere.

2. How do you determine how much you like or dislike someone else? How does this affect your relationships?

To decide whether I like someone, I need to communicate with them instead of jumping to conclusions. A rude or loud person may turn out to be caring and thoughtful upon closer interaction. If someone’s actions make me uncomfortable, I try to distance myself rather than criticize them. If necessary, I’ll have an honest conversation while being careful not to hurt them. I forgive mistakes and give people time to improve our relationship if it happens. In professional settings, I ignore those I dislike and focus on tasks or people I find interesting, investing more time in them.

3. How do you move from a distant relationship to a close one? What are the distinguishing characteristics of a close relationship?

I rarely initiate relationships. I aim to present myself as honest and reliable, offering help or support. Over time, I remain available and give the other person space to decide when to get closer. Close relationships are characterized by full trust, readiness to help even when inconvenient, and a willingness to listen and discuss issues.

4. How do you know that you are a moral person? Where do you draw your morality from? Do you believe others should share your beliefs on what's moral? Why?

I know my values are moral when my actions and decisions improve someone’s well-being. Positive feedback or reactions affirm this. My morality stems from observing how my actions affect others and from my upbringing. My parents played a significant role: my mom (SEI) instilled traditional ethics, while my dad (SLE) challenged societal norms, emphasizing fairness and critical thinking. I believe everyone should monitor their impact on others and strive for ethical behavior. Respect shouldn’t be given arbitrarily (e.g., solely based on age); it should be earned through meaningful actions.

5. Someone you care about is acting distant to you. How do you know when this attitude is a reflection of your relationship?

If we were previously close and spent a lot of time together, I’d be unsure why they’re acting distant. I’d try to communicate directly to address the issue or analyze my actions to see if they might have caused it. It could also be a case of them simply needing space.

Section 7

1. How can you tell someone has the potential to be a successful person? What qualities make a successful person and why?

It depends on the individual, but usually, observing their skills and personality traits is enough. People skilled in persuasion and public speaking, combined with organizational abilities, can excel as leaders. Similarly, artists and psychologists show their potential through creativity and analytical communication, respectively. Common traits of successful people include a desire for self-improvement, openness to criticism, and persistence.

2. Where would you start when looking for a new hobby? How do you find new opportunities, and how do you choose which would be best?

I’m somewhat closed off to new ideas, which is why I don’t have many hobbies. I need a compelling goal to ignite my interest. Despite hearing ideas from others, I dismiss most of them quickly. Even for the remaining few, I lose interest quickly and go back to "just existing." I rarely seek new activities; they usually come from friends or family. I feel demoralized by my lack of motivation and wonder why I should try something that doesn’t resonate with me. I wish I could find one passion, but perhaps it’s not my time yet—or I’m not trying hard enough.

3. How do you interpret the following statement: "Ideas don't need to be feasible in order to be worthwhile." Do you agree or disagree, and why?

I disagree. I need to focus on earning, supporting, and providing for my family, so relying on something unstable or temporary doesn’t appeal to me. I prefer stability and practicality. I want ideas to yield positive and useful results in my or others’ lives. I know this mindset isn’t entirely correct—small, seemingly impractical ideas can also bring joy or meaning. However, I struggle to overcome the feeling that I’m wasting time. My fixation on results both drives and troubles me.

4. Describe your thought process when relating the following ideas: swimming, chicken, sciences. Do you think that others would draw the same or different connections?

After giving it some thought, the only thing I can think of these words being a set of tags to a description of some cool sci-fi action movie... and I am pretty sure there are a lot of people who would be more profficient at drawing connections from random ideas. For me it's hard to relate three absolutely different things into something worthy.

5. How would you summarize the qualities that are essential to who you are? What kind of potential in you has yet to be actualized and why?

My most important qualities are curiosity, the desire for self-improvement, reliability, and loyalty. As for my potential? I have no idea. Maybe tomorrow I’ll discover some great purpose, but for now, I doubt it.

Section 8

1. How do people change? Can you describe how various events change people? Can others see those changes?

People change when they experience significant events—loss, gain, groundbreaking information, or anything that triggers deep trauma or motivation to improve. Most transformative events affect people ambiguously: for instance, loss causes immense grief, pain, and fear but can also teach them to cherish loved ones and live more meaningfully. When someone gains unique experiences, they inevitably change, and these changes are noticeable to others. After losing my cat, I decided to stop being an "antisocial gloomy complainer" and bring joy and love into others’ lives, becoming a light for those around me. These changes didn’t go unnoticed by my close ones, as I began receiving more mutual love and praise. I strive to maintain this course to avoid repeating past mistakes.

2. How do you feel and experience time? Can time be wasted? How?

I constantly feel like there’s plenty of time, yet I’m afraid of being late or missing out. This paradox drives me to prioritize punctuality, arriving either too early or too late. As a child, I was late to class only twice in 11 years of school, one of which wasn’t my fault. For work tasks, I don’t start them a week in advance but finish them on the deadline day, just hours before the cutoff. As for wasting time, it’s hard to say. On one hand, procrastination is common; I’ve seen people endlessly delay decisions, which I can’t stand. On the other hand, I feel like watching shows or playing games is unproductive and that I should do something more beneficial for the future. Even with friends, I prefer combining socializing with productivity rather than aimlessly deciding what to do. Despite this, I occasionally long for simple walks and conversations instead of just sitting around. Ultimately, my fear of wasting time feels unnatural, and it bothers me. It makes me rush, be harsh, and feel restless without the ability to relax. Perhaps I have a subconscious fear, as I seem to have forgotten how to truly rest or even be a little lazy.

3. Is there anything that cannot be described with words? What is it? If so, how can we understand what it is if language does not work?

Perhaps extremely intense feelings? I think it’s hard for many to describe their emotions when they’re overwhelming. However, such feelings are always visible—humans aren’t machines, and repressed emotions eventually surface as tremors, nervous laughter, or sudden behavioral shifts toward instability. Love could also fall into this category, as it can be so powerful that you want to jump and dance with joy. Metaphors like "butterflies in the stomach" are excellent, but in general, strong emotions are challenging to convey with words.

4. How do you anticipate events unfolding? How can you observe such unfoldments in your environment?

This is a tough question. I make predictions based on small details I’ve noticed before and their interactions, which might lead to a certain outcome. I like the phrase "history repeats itself," as it describes these phenomena well, though not all situations feel familiar. In any case, I often anticipate changes in my environment based on experience and subtle hints. For instance, while watching House M.D., I once guessed a patient’s diagnosis—autism. In real life, I can usually predict a person’s past experiences and what to expect from them. This ability has earned me the nickname "people reader."

5. In what situations is timing important? How do you know the time is right to act? How do you feel about waiting for the right moment?

Timing is crucial when it directly impacts outcomes, like emergencies (fires), work deadlines, or quick-time events (QTEs) in games—all of which have different consequences depending on whether you act in time. I’m not always sure when it’s exactly the right time to act; I either start early or act on impulse, usually immediately, recognizing it’s a "now or never" situation. I’ve handled situations requiring instant reaction well, provided there’s no human factor involved. But in interactions with others, I freeze, fearing to interfere or be outshined by more experienced people. However, if I understand someone’s behavior well, I’ll act right away. I absolutely hate waiting. I’ve always been impatient, though I’ve become more tolerant of waiting over the years. Still, I want things "here and now," no matter how childish that may seem.

video of myself being typed by World Socionics Society YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/live/sHnYxqfFX4k?si=GY2OF3dK0wVWVDgO

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What do you think of this dichotomy being called discrete vs continuous?

Not my idea, just saw it on here https://opensocionics.gitbook.io/opensocionics

I stumbled upon this video, "Every Seinfeld Episode Based On A True Story", which contains interviews from the writers of Seinfeld talking about how they came up with the bits/premises for episodes of the show. Self-evidently, many episodes were directly inspired by the experiences of the writers. Kramer, for example, was Larry David's actual neighbor who would constantly come into David's apartment and get him to do things. Here we can see a way in which the creative process for Ne-Si types can manifest.

Si as defined on Wikisocion : "We view an object’s internal state as the relationship between events that precondition one another. This element perceives information about how processes are reflected by one’s internal state. This includes the sense of one’s own condition and the sensations of people evoked by this interdependence. Interaction in space is nothing more than a reflection of one object in another. Objects reflect in other objects, evoking certain sensations in one another. Such an individual perceives external information in form of sensations evoked by ongoing events..."

Tom Leopold speaking at 5:20 : "This little Vietnamese man opened this little restaurant, it was a four table restaurant called "The Dream Café", right on my corner. It was amazing. I just got fascinated by this guy...It was a tiny tiny little post it stamp of a restaurant, but his menu was enormous, but the most poignant thing is that no one ever went in. I thought, well if I go in, I live next door, I'm going to have to always go...The other co-story on that was George taking the IQ test and it was absolutely a true story that happened to me years and years ago. I was dating a woman who was studying to be a psychiatrist, and she always said she could give me an IQ test, and I was just afraid of it because I didn't want the truth to be known to myself. What if it's even lower than I thought?"

Tom Leopold's retelling of the inspirations for this episode demonstrates how types with Si catalogue memories, but also how Ne is used as a jumping off point from Si (You will not hear an xIE recount stories in that manner... if they do, they are not Si PoLR!). The 'little Vietnamese man', the four tables, the name of the restaurant, the size of the restaurant compared to the size of the menu, his thought process, all left an impression on Tom. "Objects reflect in other objects, evoking certain sensations in one another. Such an individual perceives external information in form of sensations evoked by ongoing events". Each thing that left an impression on Tom, that comprised the story, was first precipitated by the objects Tom experienced all those years ago (which interacted with his internal state).

Ne as defined on Wikisocion : "Perceives information about objects’ potential energy — for example, information about the physical and mental abilities and potential of a person. This perception grants the ability to understand the structure of objects and phenomena and grasp their inner content. This element determines a person’s ability or inability to see the real potential energy of one’s surroundings"

Sitcom : "A sitcom (short for situation comedy or situational comedy) is a genre of comedy produced for radio and television, that centers on a recurring cast of characters as they navigate humorous situations within a consistent setting, such as a home, workplace, or community"

The Sitcom is archetypically Ni PoLR (or ignoring maybe). Within episodes, the potential energy of the cast of characters (that the audience is well acquainted with) is unleashed as they are thrust into differing situations that are allowed to develop over the course of a half an hour. "What if Kramer (a character the audience understands on an Si level) does this different thing that reinforces the audiences relationship with the character without fundamentally changing the character itself?". At the end of every episode, a big reset button is hit, so that nothing really changes on an Ni level (I am aware that there are differences between Sitcoms. While haven't watched much of Friends or Seinfeld, I'm pretty sure the former has more development over the course of the show than Seinfeld does, as an example).

Ni as defined on Wikisocion : "All processes take place in time; they have their roots in the past and their continuation in the future. Time is the correlation between events that follow each other. This perceptual element provides information about the sequence of events and people’s deeds, about their cause and effect relationship, and about participants’ attitudes towards this — that is, about people’s feelings that these relationships engender."

Contrasted with Prestige TV, where season long story arcs are thread through each episode, culminating in something significant happening, we can see how the two genres have two differing relationships to Ne and Ni. Shows like Dark, GoT, Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, etc. all lean more heavily on Ni. How do events unfold? How do the actions of one character reverberate throughout the season/s?

Search Party is a show that I need to re-watch in order to confirm whether this is true or not, but it seems, in contrast to Sitcoms, more Si PoLR. There is very little continuity throughout the show's 5 seasons. It starts out as one genre, and shifts from another, from one season to the next. It is constantly evolving itself in a way that is untethered by any particularist Si. Any character can become anything (as opposed to Sitcoms where characters have to constantly reinforce themselves in the example of Kramer).

I also want to add this (3:25-4:12) to contrast with Tom Leopold's Si. It's important to note he's semi-joking here, but even still what he remembers about going to college was that it was a few weeks after 9/11 (Which on it's face seems like a false memory. Colleges generally don't start past the middle of September, ). So that'd be a good example of how Si PoLR differs in its memory storage. You think Tom doesn't have some story about arriving on campus for the first time or something like that? I doubt it.

"It's better to live as a poor person today than to be a king in the middle ages"

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I can’t decide on a type!! I’m probably an NF type but here are a few key traits (?) about me:

• I’m in my own head a lot of the time
• I’m probably thinking about past events / relationships that I’ve had, emotionally significant situations, self-improvement, tarot, spirituality, Socionics type. I also think about my ambitions a lot and the best ways I can achieve my goals, my goals feel like my purpose
• I love talking to people, but I’m not a fan of dramatising my emotions unironically aka EIE vibe
• I’m on holiday with my mum (an LSE) and I’ve noticed she’s always telling me the best way to do things, getting me to eat more, to be more organised and to do more work lol
• I’d say I’m more of an ethical type than logical just because I feel like I can connect to how other people feel easily, and get their motivations behind their actions BUT there have been times where I’ve been socially oblivious / blunt, but maybe that’s just a human thing
• I feel negative emotions strongly and I’m trying to unlearn that

Thanks to anyone who reads this and replies :)