There was a study where 106 Socionists matched each of the descriptions belonging to MBTI types by David Keirsey to Socionics types. SLE and INTJ matched best with each other (exceeding ENTJ even). Thus implying that INTJ would dualize with INFP and surprisingly what I notice is that on MBTI forums there are a lot of posts regarding INTJ and INFP relationships. Although the first picture in this thread doesn't entirely resemble duality to me lol. Additionally there were also 6 socionists who aligned INTJ with SEE of all thing. Ti PoLR seems very weird for an INTJ Visionary. So I am curious, do any of you who self type as SLE or SEE in Socionics identify with INTJ in MBTI? if so how is it like and what do you type as in the Enneagram/Tritype/Instinct Stackings/Attitudinal Psyche if you are familiar with those? From what I can see the only example of an INTJ SLE I have found so far is Vladimir Lenin who can very easily be an EIE instead.

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BetaQ and /r/Socionics are trash and have no potential

Hey folks...let's generate some more discussion! Which neighboring quadra do you mesh with...vibe with...better? Which one do you resonate more with... does that make sense? Beta's neighboring quadras are Alpha sharing our Fe/Ti and Gamma sharing our Se/Ni.

For me it's definitely Alphas...Gammas can be alright as well...but sharing Fe just makes things so much easier with other people and especially in groups... so it's Alphas for me!

Hey folks...just wanted to generate some discussion. Do you know any Betas in your real life? What are their types? What are your experiences like with them...versus types from other quadras?

My GF (LSI) and I have a few friends who we think are Betas...some of former coworkers too...but not too many there. Also I'll be the first to admit we can't totally be sure of their types anyways.

Looking forward to your thoughts!

Jung - Psychological Types: Chapter X

Agustinavichute - On The Dual Nature of Man

BETA

• Gulenko - Beta Quadra Overview

• Gulenko - The Inca Empire: Pure Beta

• Gulenko - Management

• Gulenko - Humanitarian

• Talanov - General Psychological Properties and Values ​​In Dual Pairs of Psychotypes: Psychotypes of Quadras Alpha and Beta

• Stratievskaya - Quadra Complexes

Hobbes - Leviathan (Additional reading on socio-political ideology associated with Beta.)

EIE

• Gulenko - EIE Overview

• DCNH Variants EIE

• EIE Model G Graphic

• Stratievskaya - EIE Profile

SLE

• Gulenko - SLE Profile

• DCNH Variants SLE

• Stratievskaya - SLE Profile

LSI

• Gulenko - LSI Profile

• DCNH Variants LSI

• LSI Model G Graphic

• Stratievskaya - LSI Profile

IEI

• Gulenko - IEI Profile

• DCNH Variants IEI

• Gulenko - Comparison of types Lyric (INFp) and Humanist (INFj) in MBTI and Humanitarian Socionics

• IEI Model G Graphic

• Stratievskaya - IEI Profile

ADDITIONAL RESOURCES

Agustinavichute

• Information Metabolism Model

Bukalov

Gulenko

• Roles of Supervisory Rings: Process/Result

• Clock of the Socion

Talanov

• Introduction to Model T

• Talanov’s Rebuttal to Model A Dogmatism

Stratiyevskaya

Danidin

• Small Groups

Efremov

Mitrokhina

Papov

Stepanov

Gut

• The Magic Hypercube of the Socion

• The Psychological Content of the Qualities of Intertype Relationships

• Mathematical Representation of Intertype Relationships

Reinin

Agustinavichute - Reinin's Theory of Traits

Lytov - On The Semantic Contents of Reinin Signs

Saenko - On The Question of Criticism of Reinin's signs

GRAPHICS

• Model A/Model G Comparative

• Model G - Types and Quadra Expanded

• Functional Definitions and Comparative

• Energo Exchange of Process/Result

• Supervision

• Benefit

Credits to Ryan/Ropo and Vaserlan for pictorials.

Quadra in Socionics is often used as a way to group likenesses between types; types within a quadra share valued functions.

However, quadras are also an intersection of differences. Within each quadra, there are 4 types, each with a different

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• temperament
• supervision ring (i.e. cognitive style)
• benefit ring
• club

And there are differences between each dyad in a quadra (Reinin dichotomies, etc).

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This is more of an observation than an important statement. But, as a use for this sub, I think these differences can be explored in a fairly structured way, and prevent some of the stagnation that might be inevitable without inter-quadra interaction (...in theory, anyway; both the inevitable stagnation and the prevention of it, lol), since these differences are as important as the similarities. And to be quite honest, I'm a bit skeptical of some of the quadra descriptions out there in regards to how applicable they are (or how to actually apply them), so maybe this idea can also act as a way to separate the wheat from the chaff in that regard, too.

So, uh, maybe this is an introduction? Not sure where this is going yet...

Hello everyone,

this subreddit is a spinoff from r/Socionics, dedicated to the 2nd quadra. Discussions regarding Socionics, the Beta Quadra, and adjacent topics are all welcome.

Be kind to other posters, and enjoy the sub.