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What is /r/ProtectAndServe?

This subreddit is a place where the law enforcement professionals of Reddit can communicate with each other and the general public. This is a great place for those who are already in the field, people who are aspiring cops, and anyone else interested in the world of law enforcement.


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If you imply that you are/were a sworn law enforcement officer, verify your account by following these instructions. Refusing to do so, while implying you are/were a LEO, WILL result in a ban. This includes phrases like, "I can't say I'm a cop without verifying or I'll be banned." If you wish to participate without verifying, then you will not be allowed to participate from a position of authority.

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The security protocols that are in place do not allow the system to be accessed via a cell phone, and it works best using Chrome.

Rules
  1. Be respectful. Refrain from insults when disagreeing with another user.

  2. Practice OPSEC. Any pictures of CADs must have all information minus the specific text you're showing redacted. No personal information (i.e., addresses, phone numbers, etc.) shall be readable. Remember, this forum can be seen by anyone.

  3. No racism, antisemitism, sexism, victim blaming, etc. is allowed. Any racist or derogatory terms will result in an immediate ban. "Dindu nuffin," and its derivatives, is strictly prohibited.

  4. ALL links which are to a video only REQUIRE a few sentences of discussion starter. Examples include a summary, explanation of why it's an LE issue, etc. Copy/paste of a YouTube description or article is not acceptable.. Posts intended as baiting will result in an immediate ban.

  5. Do not post links leading to BCND or /r/news. When linking to another subreddit, you must use the NP domain (explanation here).

  6. Only post memes, image macros, reaction gifs, rage comics, etc. on weekends (Saturday and Sunday). Include "[MEME]" at the beginning of the post's title, or it will be removed. This rule does not apply to comment sections.

  7. Only post hiring questions in the Weekly Hiring Questions Thread.

  8. We reserve the right to remove any post and ban any user. Skirting any of the rules in bad faith will not be tolerated. Users' posting histories and general behavior might be considered when making determinations on whether to remove a post and/or ban or warn a user.

  9. Follow Reddit's User Agreement at all times.

  10. Law enforcement must verify. If you imply that you are/were a sworn law enforcement officer, verify your account by following these instructions. Refusing to do so, while implying you are/were a LEO, WILL result in a ban.


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Users are automatically assigned "Not a(n) LEO / Unverified User" flair upon posting here.


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Fake diplomat plates

Seen near DFW area. Sovereign citizen with “not for hire” “exempt non commercial” and a fake diplomat plate….

2 Comments
2024/12/01
02:35 UTC

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Would this scene be realistic or would this be done in a different scenario?

7 Comments
2024/12/01
01:26 UTC

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[MEME] Redditors refuse to understand how K9s work

56 Comments
2024/11/30
23:17 UTC

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Record holder

https://search.app/q6LyzoaPCQEBjNwA6 I think this might be the oldest person ever to start as a patrol officer.

13 Comments
2024/11/29
05:13 UTC

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NYC Federal LEO pay

Does anyone here know much the NYC Federal Reserve pay LEO’s? so far I wasn’t provided much information. Thank you in advance

  • The title is Federal Reserve LEO pay*
10 Comments
2024/11/28
22:20 UTC

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Financial background for law enforcement

Can someone help me with this question, I am at the stages of background checks and filling out the finance portion of it. I do have a college loan that I have not paid at all since I graduated in 2017 but in my credit report it says I’m in good standing and no late payments in today’s time. Will this effect my background check, seems this hasn’t affected my credit score what so ever.

12 Comments
2024/11/28
19:54 UTC

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Judge Rejects Data Broker's Bid (Update to privacy case)

This is an update to this recent thread, posted by u/JerseyDispatch .

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/privacy-and-data-security/judge-denies-data-brokers-bid-to-dismiss-police-privacy-case

Looks like a win for privacy, at least for now.

9 Comments
2024/11/28
17:23 UTC

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Non-armed social workers respond to domestics

29 Comments
2024/11/28
02:32 UTC

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[MEME] Okay, who in here is the (verified) Secret Service + Game Agent?

29 Comments
2024/11/28
02:33 UTC

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Duty holster problem

I’m currently in the police academy and am self sponsored. As we get into firearms I will need to purchase my own holster and equipment. I am still in backgrounds with a few departments and likely won’t be hired by the time I need the equipment so I won’t be able to get anything from them.

My dilemma is this. Our director does have fake rubber guns that he will supply us, but they are all Glock 17 red guns. I have a Glock 45 but no holster since I don’t really open carry lol. He also said that if we buy our own holsters they will need to be safariland. Our director also stated for those in the class that may have sigs or anything other than a Glock 17 that they will need two different holsters and belt set ups so that the switching between the training gun and the real gun doesn’t take forever. I’ve also tried finding a G45 fake training gun but can’t find anything that isn’t ridiculously expensive.

Does anyone know if there is a lvl 2 (minimum) optic cut safariland holster that is compatible with a G45 and G17? And if so does it have to have the compatible light on the gun as well for the holster to work? This way I only have to buy 1 holster but it will work for both.

40 Comments
2024/11/27
23:27 UTC

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Two creams no sugar, thanks!

2 Comments
2024/11/27
19:34 UTC

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[MEME] Happy Thanksgiving!

59 Comments
2024/11/27
20:07 UTC

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Becoming a LEO in Florida Megapost

So you’ve decided you want to answer the call and fight the good fight against Alligators and Florida man.

Well let this be your first read and also so we can stop having the “should I be a cop in Florida daily post number 400”

  1. Requirements per Florida Department of Law Enforcement:

19 years old HS Diploma or GED No felony convictions or convictions for misdeamnor perjury No dishonorable discharge for you armed forces types Whatever requirements that the department you’re applying for has (written tests, physical agility, background etc…)

Complete a police academy and pass a state certification exam

  1. Out of State LEOs

Florida is a friendly to most states, federal, and military policing certifications. You would need to take what they call Equivalency of Training which is a two week crash course to prepare you take the state exam. Once you pass that you can pretty much apply to any agency or they may hire you and pay for you to take the class.

  1. What agency?

Depends on what you want to do there’s three types of jurisdiction

State: Florida Highway Patrol - work crashes, write tickets, help disabled motorists, DOT enforcement etc…

Florida department of law enforcement: State investigative arm, think of it like Floridas FBI

Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation: Game warden police, marine patrol, enforce hunting/fishing/boating laws

Tribal police: Seminole Police Department, Miccosukee police. Law enforcement for the tribal lands in Florida.

University police: all the state universities have their own police department

Niche investigative agencies: Alcohol Tobacco, Financial Services, Medicaid Fraud, a whole bunch of alpha bet agencies Florida has.

County:

County Sheriffs: full police agencies that generally handle unincorporated areas or towns and cities that will contract with them instead of having a city police. They also run the county courts and jails

School Police/School Board Security: some counties have their own dedicated agency for public schools, others have certified LEOs that work directly for the county school boards

There are two exceptions, Miami-Dade is a public safety police but they’re becoming a sheriffs office come Janurary. Duval county which is basically the city of Jacksonville is the Jacksonville Sheriffs Office. They’re deputies but they think they’re special and wear traditional blue police uniforms

City:

Local police: city cop work, depending on the size of the agency and employees will determine what they will and won’t handle.

  1. Retirement

State and county agencies use Florida Retirement System (FRS) you can do an investment plan or a defined pension plan. Basically pension plan is work for 25 years vested after 8 years and have a defined benefit at retirement based on years of service plus salary

Investment plan is a 401k that you’re vested after 1 year

A lot of people get their foot in the door with the state then will later go to another agency in a county or city that uses FRS because you can transfer years of service

Most local agencies use a city 185 pension or a few of the smaller ones just have a generic 401k plan

  1. Salary

Median salary in Florida is about 60,000/year however you can’t compare what a LEO makes in Northern BFE Florida to what a LEO in Miami-Dade makes.

I’m in south Florida with about 13 years in at a city agency. I make about $100,000 year base not including incentive pay for having a bachelors plus maxing out all my Florida advanced training. This is not including details, overtime, etc…

  1. Daddy Desantis bonus

Since 2022 Florida offers a $5000 after tax bonus for new hires. This is not on top of any recruitment bonuses that other agencies officer. However I think it comes with a two or three year commitment to the agency

  1. Public Support

Even in a lot of the high crime cities the support for LEOs in Florida is pretty high. Florida is jokingly called the FAFO state because the law on obstruction of justice in Florida is pretty liberal. If a LEO gives someone a lawful order and the person doesn’t follow it, instant misdemeanor. The big joke about Florida is “come on vacation leave on probation.”

  1. Perks of the job

Almost every agency has a take home car program. Most agencies once you’re out of FTO will let you take the car home for up to 50 miles. Some agencies will make you pay for the gas and allow you to use the car for everyday use with their requirements. Some will just let you use it to go to and from a gym, or college/training

Every agency offers something different, tuition reimbursement, gym memberships, health plans, deferred compensation plans, etc…

  1. Ok where do I work?

You have to see who is hiring, and pick the area you want to live and police. My suggestion is do a ride along with your potential departments, talk to a recruiter, etc… I started my career at FHP and got to see how a majority of the state works so feel free to ask about a particular area.

  1. What else should I know?

Don’t lie, don’t be a POS, and try totreat people like human beings is the best advice I can give you good luck.

Florida policing is a mixed bag overall. Even though we all do the same jobs, there are very small rural parts of Florida where policing is your typical southern style small town handled by a couple cops or a couple deputies. Then you have mega cities with departments that a couple hundred officers, detectives, blah blah blah. You also have these giant counties like Palm Beach sheriffs, Broward Sheriffs, Orange County, Osceola, etc… that do a lot more than your typical deputy does.

TLDR: Florida has so many agencies, and they’re all mostly hiring, if you meet the requirements just pick the one you want to work at and go go go.

34 Comments
2024/11/27
15:00 UTC

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What's your departments policy on acrylic nails and nail length?

I just watched a video where a female officer had acrylic nails which extended around a half inch from her finger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGf_SLCHZr4

They didn't seem to impact her holding and deploying her taser but when attempting to physically hold the suspect they seemed to reduce her effectiveness when helping restrain him. Maybe it's a country thing (I live in New Zealand) but I've never seen anyone in a frontline position like this with nails that long. Officers that are on full time desk duty or admin staff, sure, but not frontline. (I am not LEO, but work around them a lot)

12 Comments
2024/11/27
03:40 UTC

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Body cam recommendations.

Not a cop, or even security, but I need a body cam for my work. Would any old one I can find from a reputable seller work or are some just better than others? I need one that can actually be securely mounted and won't go flying if it gets snagged on something.

16 Comments
2024/11/27
02:14 UTC

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My local PD did this video. My friend produced it. I thought it was neat.

5 Comments
2024/11/26
20:01 UTC

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Off duty cop fires at responding officers

Footage from a domestic dispute call. The female is an off duty cop that the previous day requested an ambulance for a mental crisis and got denied. That day she got into a fight with her mother and threatend to kill her, 2 patrol cars went to the call, bullets striked both vehicles but left no injured officers.

34 Comments
2024/11/26
17:16 UTC

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Bankruptcy and Employment Chances

I know there is a lot of stigma surrounding bankruptcy, especially in the law enforcement community. Although, it is negatively spread and there is nothing inherently wrong with filing as the law allows someone to do so. When it comes to background investigations and employment chances, how much could a recent BK hurt an applicant?

I know character and risk are taken extremely seriously and BI’s might see the applicant as being irresponsible. However, one could say the opposite is true. There are so many reasons why someone might file but if the person is taking accountability, making better decisions, and relieving themselves of the debt in a legal way, I do not see how this could raise huge flags. I understand the whole thing about accepting bribes or stealing money from scenes, but if a person has had all their debt discharged through bankruptcy, they are actually less likely to accept a bribe because there is no longer a financial incentive to take or accept the money.

So even if the bankruptcy was recent, the applicant is open and honest, and they are doing things to improve their situation, how much could this impact the possibility of them being hired?

2 Comments
2024/11/26
03:42 UTC

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Can LE see my past calls to LE?

I always wondered this. I have had to call LE on neighbors for loose dogs, cars swerving on the highway, etc. When I get pulled over and they run my DL, do they see that information? Also, do they see when you've been issued warnings for traffic infractions?

7 Comments
2024/11/26
00:54 UTC

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Hi folks! I work in an industry that interfaces with LE on a daily basis. We're looking to put together some patrol car 'goodie bags' as a thank you to our local guys; any thoughts as to what might be useful?

We were thinking protein/Clif bars, hand sanitizer or wipes, beef jerky, Liquid IV sticks, hand warmers, things like that. What's a small item that a LEO would love to tuck in their glove box for a long day?

28 Comments
2024/11/25
16:20 UTC

25 Comments
2024/11/25
17:00 UTC

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Weekly Hiring Questions and Advice Thread

This thread will run weekly, and it will reset each week on Monday at 1030 UTC. If you have any questions pertaining to law enforcement hiring, ask them here. Feel free to repost any unanswered questions in the next week's thread.

**This is not a thread for updates on your hiring process. We understand applicants get excited about moving forward in the process, but in order to more effectively help users, we're restricting this thread to questions only.** That said, questions related to your progression in the process are still OK.

**Some Resources:**

* [**Our Subreddit Wiki Pages**](https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtectAndServe/wiki/publicindex#wiki_hiring): A good resource which may be able to answer common questions.

* [**Officer Down Memorial Page**](http://www.odmp.org/): ODMP is a great site to read about the men and women of law enforcement who have lost their lives in the line of duty.

* [**911 Job Forums**](http://www.911jobforums.com/forum.php) & [**Officer.com Forums**](http://forums.officer.com/): Both of these sites are great resources for those interested in entering any type of public service career. If you go to either site, make sure you search around the forum and do some reading before posting a new topic.

* **/r/AskLE**: You can ask any law-enforcement-related questions on /r/AskLE if you don't feel like asking them in this thread.

* **/r/TalesFromTheSquadCar**: This is a great subreddit to view and share stories about law enforcement.

* **/r/LegalAdvice**: Feel free to ask for legal advice here at P&S, but /r/LegalAdvice is often times better suited to provide advice regarding the law. Remember, /r/LegalAdvice exists to provide advice and information pertaining to legal matters, *not* to debate why the law is what it is. Also, posting in /r/LegalAdvice should not be a substitute for actual professional legal counsel.

* [**Account Verification Information**](http://www.reddit.com/r/ProtectAndServe/wiki/verify)

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If you have a suggestion regarding the Weekly Question Thread, please PM /u/2BlueZebras or /u/fidelis_ad_mortem. Suggestions will not be implemented until the following week's post.

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2024/11/25
10:30 UTC

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[MEME] At least flush, you degenerates.

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2024/11/25
03:49 UTC

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[MEME] "What happened, TODAY, that led to this...?"

9 Comments
2024/11/25
03:23 UTC

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