/r/amibeingdetained
/r/amibeingdetained is a subreddit devoted to showcasing the idiocy and ignorant behaviour of the self-proclaimed freemen on the land and sovereign citizens. The phrase "Am I being detained?" is a reference to a common catch-phrase used by these movements.
/r/amibeingdetained is a subreddit devoted to showcasing the idiocy and ignorant behaviour of the self-proclaimed freemen on the land and sovereign citizens. The phrase "Am I being detained?" is a reference to a common catch-phrase used by these movements.
According to Wikipedia, Freemen on the Land are people who claim that all statute law is contractual, and that such law is applicable only if an individual consents to be governed by it. They believe that they can therefore declare themselves independent of government jurisdiction, holding that the only "true" law is common law, as they define it. The "Freeman on the land" movement has its origins in various United States-based groups in the 1970s and 1980s, reaching Ireland and the United Kingdom soon after 2000. The FBI considers those sovereign citizen extremists who tag themselves "Freemen" to be a domestic terrorist movement.
Essentially, these people believe that the law which governs them is the law they create themselves. Subsequent to becoming a freemen on the land, one will eventually discover that their philosophy has no merit in the court of law and that their shenanigans are laughed at as they are posted on websites such as YouTube.
While other subreddits are devoted to hating police and authority figures, this subreddit is in the interest of those who want to laugh at the spastic civilians on the other side of the policing spectrum.
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- No fighting, hating, or abusing other people. Keep it friendly.
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Do you know of any stories of the interactions between these thermometer drinkers and those inside a prison or jail?
We see plenty of instances of courtroom footage, and instances of varying police or bureaucrats being presented with this stuff. How about an instance inside a prison or jail?
01:26 UTC
"I do Not Need a Public Defender"
21:58 UTC
Sovereign Citizen tries to argue Sovcit nonsense in Court and loses. Over a red light stop!
19:25 UTC
The cop did not give him a ticket for no tags, license? Why?
19:26 UTC
Delete Lawz got his channel back, why YT!
After watching the videos posted on yt yesterday about his account getting banned for breaking T&c. Looks like he got his channel back today sadly.
If anyone deserved to be banned it's him with all the bs he pulls. 😩
17:41 UTC
BJW and another scam
from his facebook
For those of you that can't get anything with your credit, i would go around and get like 10 denials for credit. Then i would sue all 10 who denied you plus the 3 credit reporting agencies. 13 defendants in one case.Discrimination, 15 USC 1 violations, then a bunch of other random shit. Use all those denials as evidence.
I have a whole stack of denials that i went and got on purpose to collect evidence. That's in my "future parties" pile. I never want to run out of fresh lawsuits.
23:04 UTC
BJW asks his followers for updates on the cars they stole. Not going well.
For the blissfully uninitiated, Brandon Joe Williams is a new-ish guru who made waves giving his followers typically vague instructions on using various pseudolegal signatures to "purchase" cars. The general scam is that they sign the loan document "without recourse" and/or as an agent for their imaginary corporate entity, then the dealership will supposedly sell the loan to a bank which will then turn it in to the federal reserve for free money, relieving the buyer of any obligation to pay for the car. Obviously there are some problems with this theory, including BJW's belated realization that the UCC explicitly prohibits the use of "without recourse" and similar indorsements by the maker of a promissory note.
Recently he asked his followers for updates. He's quick and aggressive about deleting critical comments, so don't expect any "it got repossessed!" responses, but even what he's left behind suggests pretty ugly results for the victims who believed him. (And yes, his followers are scammers, attempted scammers, and wannabe scammers. But they're also victims of his pseudolegal grift.)
This is all from his Facebook page, on the 11/23 post asking for updates. At least one vehicle reported stolen, and various other indications of aggressive repos. The scam is only a few months old (this iteration of it, at least) so it's moving about as you'd expect.
I didn't include most of the responses, which are generally BJW telling people to hold the course and stick their arms deeper into the woodchipper.
One of BJW's associates posted here a while back that the guy seems like a nascent cult leader. I can very much believe it; this is an unhealthy vibe in all sorts of ways, and he genuinely seems to have a sociopathic disregard for the damage he's doing to these people.
05:12 UTC
This is the first search result on YouTube right now, when you lookup Jeremy Dewitte.
07:23 UTC
From r/Melbourne, spotted in the CBD
06:29 UTC
More Proof The Sov Cit Script Doesn't Work
06:23 UTC
The Small Business Administration's response to Brandon Joe William's LOLsuit is a good read
BJW, for the uninitiated, is a relatively new guru who's gained rapid visibility via a dynamic strategy of applying rabid incel energy to a borderline illiterate theory of the Uniform Commercial Code and an expanding portfolio of thorough beatings in courts across the country.
A while back he sued the SBA, arguing that the UCC makes it a crime to not give him free money. The SBA got the case removed to federal court a couple of weeks ago, and I only just now got around to noticing and reading their MTD.
The shame of it is that BJW is not familiar enough with legal writing, or law or writing generally, to understand how humiliating the MTD is. It's never showy or disrespectful, just a thorough and careful dismantling of his chaotic nonsense. If someone dropped this on something I wrote, I'd change my name and become a hermit. It's a paginated murder.
Personally, I'd have made a bigger issue of the plaintiff's past and ongoing frivolous litigation; I doubt the DOJ wants to invest any time or money in seeking sanctions in this case, but putting the background into the record would be useful as the courts struggle to respond to pseudolawyers like this. And while this is not at all the DOJ's fault, it's likely that the response's thoroughness will just wind up incorporated into the grift. BJW is relatively likely to take some concept he learned about by skimming this doc, like quasi-contracts, and fold it into his patter.
But overall, this is an excellent model of how government agencies should respond to pseudolegal complaints.
The docket is here. The MTD is here.
Just a few fun selections:
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As Frederick Douglas famously remarked to Robert E. Lee, \"fucking L-O-L\"
Reddit won't let me upload any more snippets, but at the bottom of 13 the SBA points out that he doesn't know what a "novation" is, something a few people have tried to point out to him--fruitlessly--on his socials.
Dismissal incoming. I wonder if this isn't why BJW is now telling his cult that he has a brand-new version 3.0 of his theory in the works. He's got to keep the wheel spinning as his old complaints get dismantled like this.
20:33 UTC
BJW continues to fail BusOrgs
Brandon Joe Williams, for the blissfully uninitiated, is a sovcit who's been making a surprisingly quick run through the usual guru's path. He's built a culty following, committed some pretty serious fraud, and ruined a fair few lives, all in about a year. And now, having kicked a few of his followers in the belly for being foolish enough to trust him, he's finally getting around to learning some basic legal terminology.
But BJW is a proud graduate of Scientology's finest training programs (seriously) and brings all their famous intellectual heft to the law. It's a bit like a kitten trying to rebuild a two-stroke motor: easy enough for most people to figure out, with a little effort, but he just doesn't have what it takes.
(That's an unfair analogy. It implies BJW is cute. As someone else said, he's actually the kind of creep that makes ladies cover their drinks at the bar.)
For those who aren't familiar with the legal concepts at play here, a "sole proprietorship" is a real legal concept. But what it's not is a separate legal entity. It's explicitly not a separate "person." It lacks the capacity to own property and sign contracts in its own name, separate from the human being behind it.
In other words, the massive breakthrough he's bragging about here is explicitly contrary to the scam he's been running for a while now, having people (to oversimplify) "buy" cars and transfer the debt to their all-caps name, so they won't have to pay. If the all-caps name is a sole proprietorship, then the debt stays with the human being.
Poor guy. All he wants to do is steal a bunch of money from people too stuck in the sovcit mud to report him to authorities or sue him over it. And these dang words keep getting in the way.
18:56 UTC
This was a new one for me (UK)
22:19 UTC
We got into an ep of 911 the Fox drama show!
The 11/14 episode S8 E8 there is a hot head rookie against a SC mother with a "Private" plate. Its intense!
01:46 UTC
American State National busted in Volusia County (FL)
20:12 UTC
Sovereign Citizen Refuses to Leave Hotel, Claims Laws Don't Apply to Her
23:30 UTC
Litigants duped by fraudsters fight back, aka the continuing ballad of Kevin Kumar
So on the heels of the decisions in the collective Bonneville decisions all wrapped up in Bonneville 3 2 of the UnitedWeStandPeople.com victims are fighting back in what (I think) is the first instance of OPCA Victims bringing actions against the OPCA Gurus who fleeced them into bringing Actions on OPCA Grounds, specifically the Wet Ink Contract and securitization arguments. Should be interesting to see how this plays out. The Actions have now been moved to Edmonton and are ordered tried together.
Pleadings can be found here
21:59 UTC
I think I hurt myself laughing. This is awesome: Ode to Miranda
I was commenting on Americans' obsession with Miranda warnings in another thread and I started thinking of it as ritual legal poetry. Why not then ask CoPilot (microsoft's AI) to put Miranda in sonnet form. The title is my addition:
Ode to Miranda
When you are held, your rights you must be told,
To silence, first, you have the right to claim,
And anything you say, in truth or bold,
Can be used in court to stake your name.
You have the right to counsel by your side,
If you cannot afford, one will be found,
To guide you through the legal ebb and tide,
Ensuring that your rights remain unbound.
Do you now understand these rights I’ve read?
With these in mind, will you speak or refrain?
Your choice is yours, with caution to be led,
For every word may bring you joy or pain.
Thus, know your rights, and choose your path with care,
For justice seeks the truth, both pure and fair.
02:28 UTC
You'll never guess what happened after he used a "special indorsement" to try and scam a free car from the dealership
02:54 UTC