This is probably a dumb question but I’m going to play the “Just A Special” card in my defence.

Why are most traffic offences dealt with by way of a Traffic Offence Report or similar, but then certain offences such as Driving Whilst Disqualified dealt with (usually) by arrest, when something similar like Driving Otherwise in Accordance might not be? What’s the necessity that exists there that doesn’t exist for other traffic offences? And are there any other traffic offences (other than obvious things like Prescribed Limits) where an arrest would be expected?

I’m in the middle of watching the second series of Blue Lights and they’re starting and stopping an actual tape recorder during interviews with a suspect.

Is it actually that low-tech irl? I’m sure I’ve seen videos of interviews, I thought it was all digital now…

(I’m in Scotland but the show is set in NI so I’m not asking a particular jurisdiction)

Hi everyone. Fairly new officer. Suspect was released on bail before interview because of poor health. Ambulance called and taken to hospital. Can I invite suspect in for interview in the mean time as a RLE or does it have to be on BTR date even if that means bring the BTR date forward? Could I C+3 in the mean time so I can PCR instead of charge and bail to court at the station.

I’ve had confirmation come through that I will be enrolled onto a taser course next year. I was wondering if anyone could give any tips or any pre reading material to help prepare me. Many thanks

A clinician from the ambulance must review mental health calls passed from police before ambulance attending. And may just simply not attend and pass responsibly back to police. How do you feel about this? (This is my area so not sure if it applies everywhere)

Can you send a 172 notice and prosecute the driver yourself if you witness a particularly egregious traffic offence off duty? Same question for 59 warnings. Not something I’ve done but something I’ve thought about it a few times but it feels like it might be dodgy ground.

What type of patches do you prefer to work in?

Rural or urban?

Village - small town - large town - city?

What have you found the pros and cons to be?

Do you think there is any difference between teams in rural areas or cities etc?

I’ve worked them all but would say I prefer urban / city policing but was wondering what everyone else thinks.

Hello my train-based friends.

One of my PCs has asked me around our powers to stop a train.

Specifically; whilst conducting a search of a train for mispers he has asked the conductor to hold the train. They have refused and have moved the train off with him on it.

Is there a specific power to allow us to direct the stopping of a train in the same way we have under RTA?

I appreciate we have general ways of dealing with things and I have suggested a threat of obstruct police but am hoping we have something more concrete!

Thanks in advance :)

Evening all, currently CID been on it for 2 years generally enjoy it but it’s very ‘Samey’. Often dealing people who are victims 1 week and suspects the next!

Thinking of applying for fraud. Partially as I want a challenge secondly as I want the qualifications for possible civi jobs in the future .

Anyone got any experience in this area? For example workload, volume, investigation type and general boredom.

Just want to go into it with my eyes open.

Hello, a question for all but mainly traffic colleagues.

A friend has started as a grocery delivery driver for a large firm, they have changed their fleet to EVs.

As part of his training he has to undertake an EV conversion course that the firm alleges allows them to exceed the weight limits of 3.5 Tonnes to 4 tonnes, apparently this is all approved by the DVLA as the new EV fleet used by the firm weighs more, and the bulk of their drivers only have Cat B licences.

I've never heard of such a thing, short of doing another test/CPC (C1 etc) but I concede traffic is not my forte.

Any ideas on what it is, how it falls within the law if it is a thing, or is it something to raise with his union?

Has anyone ever been told they need to remove their poppies for certain events whilst on the job and attending certain events? Was told that on Friday due to a visitor I would need to remove my poppy. As a vet in HM forces I find myself deeply offended by such a request. Is this normal and should I just get on with it?

Despite reading past threads, still a bit confused about this.

A non-EEA licence holder can drive for up to a year here, but if they get a provisional licence they can then drive on this (no L plates, on the motorway, no supervision) for up to another 10 years??

(Surprises me seeing so many L plate delivery mopeds since I suspect many have non-EEA licences).

Hello,

I have a question relating to what constitutes part of a building for burglary offences.

Suspect climbs a high metal fence with no roof surrounding the perimeter of a garden centre. The garden centre has a building where the majority of the products are however keeps other items in the fenced off area outside the building. Should the suspect steal or intend to steal from this area is this considered part of the building?

I’ve scoured PNLD to find an answer however have come up nothing. I have had a similar job where a suspects climbs a fence into a building site and steals which was not burglary due to it not having a roof (and presumably no degree of permanence)

There’s conflicting information regarding what is and is not part of a building. One argument is the large fenced off area is connected to the bricks and mortar garden centre and is “considerable in size” however another side of the argument is that it’s open to the elements with no roof. Scaling the size down should someone climb into your back garden and steal a bike leant up against the wall this would not be a burglary.

TIA

Morning to the hive mind

Am I right/wrong in thinking you can use S.1 PACE searches for articles for use in fraud, as it’s a “going equipped” offence?

I vaguely remember something on PNLD saying you can treat s.6 fraud act offences as the same as going equipped to steal for the purposes of a search… it’s not something I’ve ever done or heard being done. happy to be corrected

Hello All,

Hoping for some help from someone clued in with a niche bit of knowledge and ideally a link to some guidance /SOP to back it up.

Is it required to exhibit in your statement the MGDD forms following an arrest for drink/drug drive? I don't but have noticed that some people do exhibit them in their statements.

I've nicked countless drink/drug drivers over the last 6 years and I've never exhibited the MGDD forms in my arrest statement and never been called out on it on it on the rare occasion the defendant goes NG. As far as I'm concerned the MG forms themselves contain info at the back of the MGDDA that I'm the officer completing it, dated and signed and no different to an MG11 except it contains a proforma and some spaces to fill in the blanks.

Have I been wrong this whole time and should I start exhibiting them?

My force is making a song and dance about how the number of officers is at an all time high, however I’m wondering how many officers per populous there is since perhaps the year 2000?

Shoplifting levels 'unacceptable', inquiry finds https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gzreg4dypo

In alternative news: Shoplifting punishment levels 'unacceptable' most officers find

Il go first. Had a non compliant S23 search in the street that was negative however my cuff key snapped in the lock and had to spend about 30 minutes with a pin to try and get the snapped bit out on the street everybody watching.

Hello I left the police around a year ago to go into finance. I am currently in a finance role but have the urge to go back to the police to the MET. I cant tell if the grass is greener or its something I actually want to do again. I left because of the politic (that will always be there) but also because all officers would get moved to call centre and investigative roles even when promised " after 6 months you will go back to area" then turned into " after a year" then after that " indefinitely". I loved being on area and actually enjoyed my job and was excited. In my current finance role the work is easy and pay will be good long term but I find it hard to stay disciplined. my company is currently paying for me to be chartered accountant which is helpful for future but feel like I am living or the future constantly

Good luck to everyone sitting it this week!

Let's hope it ceases to exist at some point soon. Whilst I acknowledge that we should expect our leaders to have a level of knowledge, the idea that an officer is going to URGENTLY need to know how many years in custody a defendant needs to receive before you can apply for a travel restriction order...

Anyone know what happened to iPlod? I always use it on jobs and it’s been uninstalled off my phone, and when I try to install it I get the message that it is no longer on the App Store. I’ve had to download ‘Pocket Sergeant’. Does anyone know if this app is just as good/better and if it’s often updated?

i am planning to report my abusive ex partner to the police, and in our last conversation they threatened me saying if i spoke up about what they did they’d report me for defamation with ‘character statements’. i am just wondering if it would be beneficial for me to provide some character statements for myself along with my report to the police? i have mountains of evidence to provide but just thought it might be useful as i know these types of reports can be brushed off and not taken seriously. luckily there are a few of my exes previous partners also wanting to report too, but we just want the best chance at being taken seriously.

Morning all,

Here’s a question for those that love obscure legislation. Section 2 of the ecclesiastical courts jurisdiction act 1860 makes it an offence to behave in a “riotous, violent, or indecent” way in a cathedral, church or chapel. It’s very prescriptive about where this applies to so is there any form of legislation that covers other places of worship such as a temple, mosque or gurdwara?