The good:

• Practical locations, sets, stunts, and beaches are all heavily present which stays true to the filmmaking of the first 3. Same can't be said about all that ugly CGI in the 5th movie.
• Jack Sparrow is still mostly himself. I feel he's a bit too unserious cracking wise constantly, but he is still quite clever and likable. And compared to that drunken idiot of a "Jack" we saw in 5, I can't complain.
• Jack and Barbossa's relationship expanded more in this movie I genuinely love. Same with Gibbs and Jack's friendship.
• Ian Mcshane as Blackbeard is great with what he was given. He's kind of wasted by the end but in terms of performance and also costume/makeup, it's a top notch villain you can ask for in a pirates film.
• Moving away from epic, giant stakes of At World's End was the right call since this is supposed to be a smaller scale epilogue of the trilogy. There's no way you're topping that movie anyway. Less supernatural elements is also nice, glad they tried something new and NOT have another undead villain crew.
• There's some good action sequences, particularly that whole London escape. And the mermaids scene is good stuff, showing them how the original fairytales actually depicted them as as opposed to the friendly ones we typically get by Disney.
• I like the character of Angelica. Giving Jack a love interest, but in a pirate-style romance in which they're constantly betraying each other was fun.
• Seeing the Spanish empire finally was refreshing. They were a huge part of the Caribbean in the 18th century so it was overdue.

The bad:

• A pretty mid plot overall. The idea of a treasure hunt for the fountain of youth with these groups of people racing to it is good on paper, but I just never find the execution to be engaging.
• Jack Sparrow, despite being made the main protagonist, feels like he isn't even important. I hear other fans say all the time he should share the spotlight with other characters (i.e Will and Elizabeth) and I kind of agree. BUT, I think he could've lead this movie alone just fine, the problem was his character still wasn't the driving force of the storyline and he isn't given any more development to make him more layered as a person. He isn't made to be the arch nemisis of the main villain, Barbossa is. Jack doesn't even have a sword fight with Blackbeard, why?
• The weakest soundtrack in the franchise by far. It's mostly just all recycled work from the trilogy. Sometimes the songs are placed in scenes that aren't even fitting for the context. Even 5 has some original songs I occasionally will listen to.
• Getting rid of the Black Pearl. Why? What good did that do? She's a character in and of herself for this franchise.
• The Queen Anne's Revenge, amazing design, but no ship battle? Why? Missed opportunity there.
• The humor is weak. Maybe not as bad as 5, but it's still pretty bland. While comedy isn't a huge focus on this franchise, the original trilogy was hilarious when it wanted to be. And was placed at appropriate times.
• Verbinski's direction is CLEARLY absent here. His stunning visuals are now gone as is his quirky style and atmosphere he brilliantly builds in all his movies. And while I said the action sequences here were fine, there's nothing that compares to Verbinski's enthralling excitment he brings to any blockbuster he directs.
• Why did Jack maroon Angelica on the island? Goes against all the lore of Jack seeking revenge on Barbossa in the first film for doing the same to him.

Anyway, these are just all my thoughts on the movie. It seems more PotC are coming around to On Stranger Tides these days. I just wish I was one of them. Feel free to add any input to my review. I'll also be finally rewatching 5 soon too, and then posting my updated thoughts on that as well.

Okay so I’ve been searching, and why did Jack only bargain for being captain for 13 years? Like I understand why he made the bargain, but specifically why only 13 years?

For starters, I simply ask this. Could Jack really be blamed if he didn’t give that much of a shit about Will and Elizabeth and their happiness at this point in the story? Will just a few days ago sold Jack out to Sao Feng and Beckett. Two of the people who hate his guts the most. And Elizabeth in the last film of course betrayed him to the Kraken. Yet despite all this, Jack still gives up what he wanted so badly for nearly the entire film so that Will and Elizabeth can have another chance to be together.

While I wouldn’t say that it’s because Jack considers these two his friends deep down, nor would I say that Will and Elizabeth would think the same of Jack. I still think there’s a mutual, if sometimes grudging respect between the three. It’s kinda like a jenga tower. Pieces of it often get picked apart, making it a bit wobbly and might even completely crash down at certain points, but it usually gets rebuilt to an extent in the end.

And hell, Jack’s dilemma of what to do with Jones’s heart is even setup at shipwreck cove. Both in the Final Cut and in a deleted scene. There’s of course the bit where Teague tells Jack that the trick is living with yourself forever, and a deleted scene where he tells Gibbs that no honest streak is gonna get him killed this time.

AWE had a few scenes that were just straight up filler for me meant to be a waste of time for no reason. >!First we had to sit through an entire minute of Elizabeth removing all of her weapons!<.

!Everything leading up to when the EITC soilders come charging in was probably relevant with the pirates about to fight each other. Plus I did find it funny how Pintel, Ragetti, Gibbs, Marty and Cotton went under the bath house. !<

!Quick side note that does not affect the film; Why did Beckett order Davy Jones to kill the Kraken. You could argue that he didn't trust Davy to call the Kraken to destroy the Endeavour and take back his heart but Beckett could have stationed a few soilders aboard the Dutchman to guard the Kraken hammer. We see Murtogg and Mullroy are present when Beckett confronts Davy after the ships are destroyed and I thought the deleted scene where they plan to set the Dutchman on fire was funny.!<

!I feel like the whole negotiation scene dragged on for quite a while but I'm not sure how much of it was relevant to the plot or just thrown in for filler. !<

!When Sao Feng and Barbossa are talking after the Motley crew gets off the Black Sand beach and Barbossa says "We have Calypso!" He was clearly referring to Tia Dalma so it's pointless why Sao thought Elizabeth was Calypso. Elizabeth could have gone over to the Empress for a bath like she did in the lego Pirates video game and then stolen the robes off a dead body when Sao Feng makes her captain before he dies. !<

!I feel like the Brethren court scene goes on for way too long. All they needed were the nine pieces of eight to free Calypso and then elect a Pirate King which obviously ended up being Elizabeth. And then when they actually need to free Calypso why did it not work when Barbossa said "Calypso, I release you from your human bonds!" Ragetti said it exactly the same way Barbossa did and it works there. Another minute of filler thrown in just for that. It should have started when Barbossa said it. !<

!Lastly there's the Maelstrom fight which is the most epic Battle in the whole franchise but I liked every aspect of it. !<

!And that is why I think At World's End (Not counting Stranger Tides) is the weakest one but it does answer every question Dead Man's Chest left off on very well though. !<

I distinctly remember a POTC online video game when I was a kid. My dad even played it with me. Any time I’ve brought it up to someone, nobody knows what I’m talking about.

So like A) did it actually exist lol, and B) what happened to it?

Just finished the third movie and it was amazing ngl just bcz of this series i wanna become a pirate 😔

So I’ve been working on some of my own lore regarding a character. I know the series has pretty scary elements like Davy Jones, the skeleton pirates and sea monsters…

But what about just outright eldritch stuff. So I made some lore trying it with the idea of “The Heathen Gods” being the Aztec, Calypso, and Poseidon. So I decided to try to make a well known monster work with the series to the best of my abilities. The current lore I’ve made so far is that Poseidon and Calypso ruled the seas in harmony and prosperity (in some way at least) One night, a burning ball of fire fell from the stars and landed into the sea.

The two gods reached out with kindness to this new visitor, wishing for peace. All they got in response once it emerged was rage, destruction and chaos.

So they sprung into action which lead to a Great War between them and the beast, which was just as powerful as them. Their last act of desperation worked, which forced the beast to retreat and be sealed in an undersea cavern/trench.

https://jack-sparrow-ai.vercel.app/

Wanted to make a side project to learn more about AI so spent a few hours making a chatbot that talks like Jack Sparrow (in language - voice could use some work lol) & made it incessantly compliment my girlfriend Grace for fun. Highly recommend using on laptop/desktop - Doesn't really work well on mobile.

Thought you guys would enjoy 🏴‍☠️

Gibbs literally stayed loyal to Jack(Not counting the 5th movie), even getting Jack an entire fleet.

They're my two favorites.

So I just rewatched the first Pirates movie (which is still great) and I have some questions about Gibbs. Mr. Gibbs who I always forget that he was already there in the first scenes when they rescue Will at sea, on the navy ship.

So in the beginning, Mr. Gibbs is a navy man, he is there when they rescue young Will Turner at sea, who is wearing a gold medallion which his father, Bootstrap Bill Turner had sent him to England. That means, the Black Pearl already has found the Aztec Gold and is already cursed. That also means, Jack Sparrow is no longer captain of the Black Pearl at this moment (because they mutinied against him before that) and Bootstrap Bill is (most likely) already deep under water.

So 8 years later, Will and Jack find Gibbs in Tortuga. He knew Bootstrap Bill (and immediately understands the importance of Will) and he served under Captan Jack. On which ship? The Black Pearl? Must've been or he wouldn't know Bootstrap Bill, right? But 8 years earlier when they found Will with the Aztec Gold that travelled all the way to England and back he was still in the Navy. Is the movie wrong or did I miss something? Or did Gibbs never serve under Jack and only hears all these stories from him? But where did they serve together because they clearly have a history on ships together.

Bonus question: why is the monkey still cursed in the following movies when they lifted the curse. Yes, maybe the monkey didn't give his blood BUT the first movie makes it seem like the curse has to be lifted for everyone or no one at all. The pirates stay cursed for as long as they don't add Bill's coin (AND Bill's blood) and then they aren't cursed anymore.

Okay, let me preface everything by saying, this is not my favorite movie and it is not even close to the first three in quality. But when comparing this to On Stranger Tides, this is leagues above it.

I think something that doesn’t get enough credit are the set pieces in DMTNT. It has some really cool ideas for sets. Such as having a crew and a ship who are remains from an explosion, an island of gems, and the bottom of the sea. 

I actually don’t have an issue with the lore in this movie. I think having a macguffin that can control the sea is a cool idea. The issue I have with it is the “realization” that breaking the trident ends all the curses. There was 0 setup to that conclusion and they just come up with it on the spot. The thing with the compass is that I kinda understand that jack has given up the compass before. I choose to believe he let Tia Dalma borrow it before, so it was temporary and it would come back to him. Granted, let’s face it, the writers just didn’t care about the lore.

I think the biggest issue is the characters. The writing in this movie is just plain… bad. The characters talk like people from TV shows like NCIS. Carina is by far the worst culprit of this. I get that she is a woman of science but she honestly comes off as a prick the entirety of the movie. The romance between her and Henry feels incredibly forced and there only to draw parallels between Will and Elizabeth. Additionally, her being Barbossa’s daughter felt a bit contrived. I wish it was established earlier in the movie that there could be familial connection between the two because on paper I like the idea. Compare the dialogue to the first movie. That movie used context clues and had some of the best one-liners in cinema history; whereas, this movie likes spoon feed the plot, but the spoon is literally choking us.

It also feels like that most of the characters just don’t have stakes in the plot. Carina literally has nothing to gain from being on this adventure. Why is the British still in the story after the group leave the… uh, did they give that island a name.

I like Salazar as a villain. He has a cool design and I understand his motivation. However, I find that his premise is just Davy Jones and Barbossa’s meshed into one. I think, though, that he was in the right. I mean, pirates literally killed his family, so why are we rooting for Jack.

I also think Barbossa was done well (he is always done well). I find his motivation clear, and by the end, his death is heartbreaking yet satisfying.

I think another issue, possibly the biggest, is that this movie falls apart in the last act. Without the structural support in the second act, the ending is left to dry. I think this movie uses a bunch of non sequiturs and treats that as setting-up the plot. However, it’s just a bunch of meaningless words. Like, “a map a man cannot read.” Nothing is ever explained and the most egregious example is no where being said that the trident breaks all curses at sea.

The issue with the last two pirates movies is that Jack does not work as a main character. At his core, he cannot grow as a character. By the end of DMTNT, it is the same Jack as the one in the beginning. The first three movies, I argue that Elizabeth is the main character, and without proper stakes or character dynamics, the plot falls on its face.

I know I’ve done a poor job explaining why I like this movie over OST, but this one at least felt like a pirates movie. OST has all these cool ideas that amount to nothing whereas this movie had payoffs to everything it set up.

Edit: At the end of the day, this is just my opinion. I am not the end-all-be-all force. I do not decide the future for the franchise. These were just my thoughts.

I’m tied between the newest movie being a reboot or conclusion. Idk the latest word but is it gonna still bring back Johnny as a “sorry we completely fucked you over, here’s your swan song” movie or will they completely start anew and possibly continue a similar story that Elizabeth and Will had with carina and henry? Like with transformers after Shia left where they acknowledge the older characters but have completely revamped it? I get wanting to move past what has been because it played itself out, but I think we can have barbossa’s daughter, with Will and Elizabeth’s son, possibly finding jacks child because they need them as a “he’s a descendent and only he can do this”..

It very briefly showed Will manning the helm of the Dutchman just after his heart removed. It never once occurred to 12 year old me that this probably meant that Will became the Dutchman’s new captain, or at the very least, a crew member of some kind. But I’m sure some of you more clever viewers put that together.

There are 10 members of the Dutchman crew that were only in At World's End, Broondjongen, Jelly, Finnegan, Morey, Piper, Faultenroy, Manray, Igmar, Herman and Urchin. I wonder what Dead Man's Chest would be like if those guys were present in that film. (I fee like it would also depend on which of those guys go to Isla Cruces in Davy Jones' stead to retrieve the chest.)

Just a couple of my Jack Sparrow props in an arty little photo

What would will turner have looked like if he ended up more like jones? davy only became like that after he neglected his duties as ferryman, and im curious to see if will would have looked the same