It is difficult to work out if it's the acting or writing that I love (seeing as I've only seen teach and flint elsewhere), but I'd love to see as such actors that played vane, Rackham, bonny, hornigold, silver, gates.

Who are cast members you'd like to see?

I dont want to ramble and bore you all, but if you do want the full edition then any upvotes would convince me for sure.

I am a 27 year old archaeologist, and my closest and life long homie (who has several of the wardrobe since studies maritime acrchaeology and also has a MA in filmography.

So my friend, who is half spanish and half Parisan(we , ra very passionate but also just a man who has struggled with depression and anxienty... he was also very modest. I had only known him a year at this time too, but we did have this strange and mystical chemistry..

I was a big time womaniser for most of my life, but a few purely sexual and passionate flings wth guys. I can only really be attracted to guys who have that unorthodox attractivness, one who could rock a wig and a dress and you'd think i was a hot grl.

He was quite poor, but open about it, he lacked ego but he did show glimpses of pride when i would try to just help him out sometimes (i receved a lot in a will andi know who left it me just wanted me to be happy) i tauht myself to cook quite well and i would invite this spanish prince around so he could just ea without feeling like a burden. I am not sure when exaclty it happened, not even sure wy or much. It was all very confusing.

I hope y'all know where i am going with this. I havnt named him but i am no tthinking how its very likely he checks out this reddit, though he doesnt need this rushed rambling to know how i truly feel about him. I can say with certianty that flints influence

Like, it's no wonder he abandons Flint and Silver as soon she offers to renew their partnership in season 4. All the time he was worrying about Max and she:

• saved his business
• negotiated with Vane to have the black mark removed
• got the info on Featherstone and crew -Featherstone even tells Jack he was chosen only so they'd have Max's leads
• brought him in on the Urca hunt

Without her, he'd have been penniless, unwanted by any crew, and while being beat up and pissed on by random dudes.

Am rewatching Black Sails for the third(?) time perhaps, and it struck me how Miranda was literally killed she was a woman AND a woman with associations with a pirate.

Near the end of season two, Flint and Miranda return Abigail to her father Peter Ashe and try to make a deal with him to improve Nassau. When Miranda and Flint are sitting down and talking to Ashe in his office, Miranda stands up (I think she was talking passionately about something), and Ashe's man, Rhett, points a gun at her and tells her that if he moves closer to Ashe, he'll shoot her. Miranda sits back down.

Note that:

1. A desk is between Miranda and Ashe; she's not even close to him, and,
2. Out of Miranda and Flint, FLINT is the one who is the pirate, who has gotten in physical fights with people and physically killed people; he is the feared pirate captain, she is not. She's an ex-lady. Yet, even though Flint would be the real threat in a confrontation, when Miranda stands up, Rhett threatens and points the gun at her.

Then later, when Flint, Miranda and Ashe are sitting at the dinner table and all kind of stand up to argue, Miranda starts threatening Ashe, moving a bit closer to him -- yet, she's still about a metre away from him, and again, unlike Flint, does not have a history of physical violence.

Yet, even though she's

1. Only threatening Ashe (due to a heightened emotional state after realising that Ashe made deals with Alfred Hamilton),
2. Is a few metres away,
3. And not even trying to harm him physically,

Rhett shoots her through the head. When she was no threat. I think he saw an emotional woman (associated with piracy) threatening a man, and thought she was about to do something. Do what, I don't know -- she doesn't exactly look like a fighter.

But yeah, at the risk of sounding too 'woke' or whatever, Miranda was killed because she was a woman AND because she was a woman associated with piracy. Even though Captain Flint had the bloody history/ past violence and even though he was more of a physical threat (like he would be able to fight Ashe better than Miranda would be able to), Miranda was still targeted and shot through the head.

I know Flint was beaten up by Rhett and a few other men on the way to seeing Ashe, but in the end it was Miranda who was killed on the spot for threatening Ashe while being a good metre and a half away from him.

And I know Rhett does not know what we do about Miranda -- that she is not a fighter and doesn't go out of her way to harm people. But Rhett does know:

1. Miranda and Flint killed Alfred Hamilton in a pre-meditated way
2. Flint is the feared pirate captain, and thus since he's a pirate captain, has likely physically been in more fist fights/ fights in general AND has killed people (and thus, out of Miranda and Flint, would be more of a threat to Ashe due to this)
3. He might have also heard rumours and/ or discerned when overhearing Miranda and Flint discussing things with Ashe that Miranda cheated (or so he thinks) on Thomas with Flint, causing Thomas to be so struck with grief he was put in a mental asylum, where he later died, and then being forced to leave London with Flint AND stuck by Flint all those years

BUT! Like come on, dude. Read the room! You didn't have to shoot her through the head! You literally could have just told her to step away from Ashe while pointing a gun at her and/ or went and stood by Ashe's side to indicate that he was protected/ she didn't need to come any closer. Like, did he really expect this ex-lady to physically fight Ashe and try and attack/ kill him? FLINT is the one he should have been worried about doing any attacking/ killing since he's the god damn feared pirate captain.

Anyways, Miranda was hate-crimed. Rhett killed her (I think) because he thought Miranda was inferior to him and kind of 'deserved to die' because she was an 'evil woman' (as in, she was a woman involved in piracy). Glad Flint stuck with Miranda's final wishes and killed Ashe and burned Charles Town to the ground hehe.

I'm halfway through the first season, still love this show!

My favorite Silver quote from season one: "Well that's a few weeks from now, we might be friends by then".

Flint's grin is priceless.

No spoilers I just finished season 1 and am wondering how much better 2 is.

He felt the most human. He was smart yes, but his plans were constantly going awry. He had to face and overcome major personal short comings. And to those which he couldn’t really overcome, he had to rely on others to help him along the way. He was an underdog, and in some ways an outsider, but still embodied some of the most interesting pirate themes.

His dialogue was pretty great too. Something which I didn’t really like with Max, Elenor, even Flint (among others) is the dialogue which really strayed away from how people actually talk and into such an overly assured eloquent preconceived speech which happens time after time.

I loved the ending they gave Jack and I love his arc more than any character. I felt like they really messed up Eleanor’s character in the latter two seasons, idk why but I stopped rooting and really caring about Flint, Silver arced so hard part of what I liked about him in the early seasons was lost, stilled liked him but… Jack had a great arc.

From episode one I didn’t like him, wouldn’t have been surprised if he died, honestly wouldn’t have cared either, but by season 4 I was pretty much watching just for him and Anne Bonny. — while we’re at it, what another great character, she and Jack’s dynamic is so great! — Anyway to make me do a massive 180 on a character I wouldn’t expect, make them the hero, I love that about this show.

My only complaint is I wish he had more screen time. And Anne too! They stole the show for me, and I kinda wish they were just the sole protagonists in S4 (Ik I’m in a small minority here, and Ik that would’ve been a damn stupid idea unrealistic idea for the show runners, but I’d have enjoyed it lol). Also, if you recognize me from my post bitching about 403 a couple days back. That ep isn’t so bad considering the ending, but I still think they did Jack dirty. He stand there like a chooch while BB get massacred cuz they decide to give Rogers a win. Bah!! (But also it makes his ending more impactful so k)

Also I kinda wish the writers would toss him a bone and let him defeat Rogers in swords without Flints help, but what can you do.

Shout out to Vane as well, real gansta.

Edit: if perchance there’s any Starz producers or former Black Sails show runners lurking here, a Jack Rackham, Anne Bonny, Mary Reed protagonist spin-off with Max and Featherstone would be so dope just saying.

I have auditory processing disorder so some things get lost on me. Why did Silver abandon Flint in his attempt for gold? I know they argued about the fate of the captive love interest of Silver, but why wouldn't Silver continue with Flint on his pursuit of gold? Do we know where Silver went with his love interest afterwards?

Two left. Has been literally the best show ever. Been watching it with my dad. I don't want it to end. :(

The battle leading to Queen Anne’s Revenge surrendering and Blackbeard’s death is really annoying. Basically I think the writers are just trying to make Rogers more badass and a fearsome adversary, but that’s not my takeaway. My takeaway from that battle is for that battle the pirates temporarily become imbeciles when they just episodes previously were near superheroes.

First, why board Roger’s ship at all? Why not just sink the damn thing it’s comparatively tiny I’m pretty sure the Queen Anne’s cannons coulda tore hella holes in its hull or whatever.

Second, if you’re dead set on boarding, why use the longboats? Why not get up side by side. Again, Queen Anne’s Revenge >>> the boat Rogers was on, they coulda had a fallback to the boat or support/reinforcements from the rest of the crew.

Third, I’m pretty sure Blackbeard woulda sensed Roger’s play the second he stepped on that boat. Especially considers when it’s plot convenient characters can be damn near telepathic. And I don’t buy that the hiding soldiers would beat the Queen Anne’s vanguard with BB and Anne Bonny fighting considering their near superhuman fighting skill previously demonstrated.

Fourth, why surrender? See point 1, Rogers ship should be dead in the Queen Anne’s hand. Roger’s may be holding BB and Anne hostage, but QA is holding that entire ship hostage. And you might say Rackham just wanted to save Anne and nothing else, but this guy who’s supposed to be clever can’t see surrendering probably means death for them both. (Obviously that doesn’t happen because it’s plot protection but still). Wouldn’t some cannon fire if they’re losing not create enough chaos for Anne to jump and swim back? I’d bet the probability of her survival is better under that scenario than under capture.

Finally, even if Rackham wanted to surrender, I doubt the Queen Anne’s crew would let him.

Overall, it’s not really that Blackbeard dies that annoys me, but the battle which lead to his death because it feels like they just make the pirates uncharacteristically stupid for plot sakes.

Edit: Also forgot mention Jack had a major card he never played: he knew the location of the Cache of gems! This would’ve been a massive piece of leverage given Roger’s predicament. So even if they’ve surrendered, why doesn’t he at least try to use that piece of information as a bargaining chip.

Hi guys, I’m curious if anyone knows the song that starts when they start preparing to start running from Andromachy (I hope I didn’t butcher the name)? I searched everywhere and can’t find the song.

I’m 5 episodes in if I recall and am really liking it so far! Enough that I’m probably ordering the Blu-ray set as the digital compression on Starz is pretty distracting to me at times in the lower lit scenes. I will say, the red blooded male in me is going to be a little sad when the boobage gets toned down, but from I’ve read the story only gets better and you kinda forget about it. To be fair it is the same tactic GOT used early on to bait people in and keep them interested in such a complicated story that was tough to keep up with at times if you weren’t already a book reader.

In Season 1 at the beginning they mentioned "one of the best counter-intelligence agents". Did we ever see who it was? I suspected either John Silver or Randall. Or was it just a filler that got left out?

Note: I have revised my theory (see edit 4) - in short: Silver >!killed James Flint but spared James McGraw (?!).!< I've left the main post unedited - edits are noted.

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(Hark - here be spoilers! Read at your own peril 💀)

Note: if you think this comes across like the mad ramblings of someone who never took a film class but had a lot of friends in college that did - well, you'd be right! I'm just having fun and giving my take on the finale of this great show.

I just finished my first watch through of the show. Verdict - excellent. I feel compelled to make the case for why I think Silver did in fact >!kill Flint!< in the final episode. I will also say that to me, this IS the happy ending. I'll go into more detail below.

First let me say that I love that it's open-ended. It's incredibly true to the show, and very clever. The finale has to play it close to the chest to maintain the question at hand, thus it doesn't give us a lot. But I think if we pay attention to all the context in the episode, and particularly the symbolism at critical moments, it's clear that Flint never made it to Savannah. The two critical symbols, to me, are the boulder and the mirror.

Let's go to the scene in question, which is full of ambiguity - save for one detail. The two are standing in the woods, and Silver has his pistol pointed at Flint's heart; before we cut away, we are given one last shot above and behind Silver, with Flint facing the viewer, his body clearly outlined by a boulder lying in the ground behind him. This is clearly an intentional shot, they could have just had the two men in profile, or shown Silver facing the camera - thus I don't think it's an arbitrary implication. The message: this will be Flint's grave. The music crescendos and hits a drum roll as we cut away to Gunn, Hands and Tom Morgan, and the sounds of cawing crows, all intentionally ambiguous (although I would say Crows are pretty synonymous with death, it's not a strong enough point).

edit 1: here's the boulder scene

The silhouette of the boulder, tomb-like, surrounds the figure of Flint.

Next let's consider Silver's story. I think the most critical element of the whole question is again shown to us symbolically: In the scene of his recounting the story to Madi, we should be conscious of the conspicuously placed mirror behind her - a mirror in which Silver's reflection does not appear, despite his silhouette being in the foreground. Mirrors, of course are used to represent lies or duplicity, and the implication here is clear - Silver is not telling the truth. When he is done with his story, and Madi walks to the window, we are very intentionally given a shot of the empty mirror next to Silver's silhouette.

case closed baby

In addition, this scene provides one more clue. When Madi asks Silver to leave, what does he say?

I will wait. A day, a month, a year, forever...

He used these same lines on Flint. Here I think the show is simply demonstrating how practiced Silver is in his lies. Of course, he did not wait a year for Flint.

Silver turns away, downcast, and begins to leave - at this point he appears in the mirror. And then what do we hear immediately??

A story is true, a story is untrue. As time extends, it matters less and less. The stories we want to believe, those are the ones that survive...

If this quote came at any other time in the episode, I would say it just lends to more ambiguity. However, the fact that it's introduced immediately after Silver's story seems to be the show's admission, "this is just a nice story for those who don't want to believe Silver killed Flint." To me the creators are being as direct as possible without giving it away.

Finally, we should consider the very nature of the story that Silver is telling to Madi (and, more importantly, to the viewer) - "don't fret, it's OK, your favorite character Flint got sent to a farm upstate". It's literally the predominant trope of a lie being told to console others and disguise the fact of death. Couple this with the fact that Silver's character is entirely based on deception, and to me, it's case closed.

What follows I think are debatable points, but once we accept the symbolism they become supporting details. There is the fact of the dream-filter placed over the visual depiction of Silver's story, a filter which was not used in the opening depiction of the plantation (meaning, to me, that Tom Morgan really did go to Savannah, thus there was a sincere consideration to save Flint's life. Whether or not Thomas was really there, we can't say.) Of course, the same filter was used to depict the flashbacks of Flint and Silver sparring on the hill, but I think in this case the fact that it is used while Silver is narrating the story (Flint doesn't speak) and that it wasn't used earlier in the episode, is telling.

Then we should consider the very blatant passage through the gates as Flint steps into a cloudy dreamscape (it's the afterlife). Who accompanies him? - the same 3 from the island - Gunn, Hands and Morgan - the same three who would have buried him. Of course, maybe they just accompanied him all the way to Savannah - I think it's more probable, given the clear Pearly Gates symbolism, that they ushered him to the afterlife.

edit 2: given the allusions to the Odyssey early in the show, I think it's fair to say that the plantation represents the Elysian fields. Who rules over the Elysian fields?

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Chronos does :)

Now I will address a few counterpoints I have seen, mostly having to do with TI. Of course, in TI, Flint is said to have died of drink in Savannah - but as we know, just because it's a story doesn't make it true. This could just be the echo of Silver's fable from the Black Sails finale. The more complicated piece is on the treasure map itself, which states that Flint gave the map to Billy in Savannah in 1754. My take here is that, considering how both Black Sails and Treasure Island play with the truth, I don't think the statement on the map is definitive, and I don't think Black Sails would feel confined to one ending by what's written on the map. Bones is clearly in a bizarre state by the time of Treasure Island, drunk all the time and going so far as to claim his name isn't even Billy Bones, so I don't think it's too far fetched that the map's attribution can be explained as ironic or farcical. Plus, if we stick to Black Sails canon, we have to ask, given the events of the show, why would Flint EVER forgive Billy and give him the treasure map?? Thus while the script on the map is a bit of a thorn in the "Flint dead" theory, I don't think it's definitive. I think it's just as likely Bones made the map himself and wrote it down there in an ironic sense.

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At first I was distraught about Flint being killed, but after sitting with it, I realize it's way more in his character to die on the island than to give in to Silver's plans - even if they used Thomas as bait. This extends into character motives and who really wanted what or did what why, and I'll save those thoughts for another post. I'll say for me the whole "Flint is just waging war on England because of this thwarted love" trope is also a fiction - but I better stop there!

Anyway, cheers. Going to go finish reading Treasure Island.

TL;DR (again, spoilers) >!Silver killed Flint and that's the true happy ending :)!<

edit 3: in which I elaborate on why THIS is the happy ending. Of course, we all wanted to see Flint reunited with Thomas. But watch the scene again - Flint, who had heretofore been a major figure in an anti-slavery revolutionary war, is himself confined to what is essentially slavery. Look at the plantation, look at the fields - you're telling me the most die-hard revolutionary in the new world would forfeit all of his ideals and concede to a life of pointlessly toiling for the benefit others because of a personal motive???? That, to me, is beyond tragic, and why I refuse to accept the "Flint Lives" ending (yes, because I don't want to 😋).

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edit 4: Upon further review I am revising my theory. Silver >!DID kill Captain Flint!<, hence the tomb symbolism, the crows, and the implication of a gunshot. However, he >!spared the man, James McGraw!<. I had neglected to consider the duality of Flint/McGraw that the show is constantly setting up, and I wanted to ignore the fact of Silver discussing it. In addition, I had written this post having read about 60% of TI and having assumed they were done mentioning Flint. But (having read further), when >!Silver's crew is spooked by the voice of Ben Gunn and they discuss Flint's death in Savannah!<, well, that's pretty much that. The man they knew as Flint died in Savannah of drink - really it was just Flint's ghost, James McGraw. But the same man, nonetheless.

Silver essentially put Flint in checkmate - there was no way out. Hence he had to accept the terms of giving up "Flint" and being reverted to McGraw. Of course, this means he got to reunite with Thomas (hurray), but only to live an empty life of toil (something Flint fought against with his life) and die in 30 years drunk and (probably) penniless.

The one thing I'm now lost on is the mirror symbolism when Silver is telling Madi what happened. It's clearly intentional but I'm not sure how to read it now - perhaps that Silver was never faithful to Madi's cause (having sent Tom Morgan to Savannah before the Spanish ever invaded).

I'm going to leave my main post up and unedited because in a sense it's still correct. The tomb around Flint, the pearly gates, the dream-filter, the Elysian fields, are all meant to show us that "Captain Flint" was killed - Silver got him. I still think this is a more tragic ending than Silver shooting him on the island, but it conforms with the show in that every character's ending is tragic in the sense that each was their own undoing (except, I think, Max).

Anyway cheers! Excited for a second watch someday.

edit 5: (I need to stop editing this post) OK in edit 2 I didn't realize that apparently the clock shown at the plantation is identical to the Hamiltons' clock...thus it's almost certainly being shown for reasons other than symbolizing that Oglethorpe is Chronos ruling over the Elysian fields (I mean...it was a thought). However, I can't seem to come up with a canonical explanation for the clock's presence on the plantation. We know the clock was in Ashe's house in season 2. With Ashe>!killed off at the end of season 2 ,!< there wouldn't have been anyone in Savannah (that we're aware of) that would have known Thomas was in the Savannah plantation, and even then, why would they have sent the clock there, to reside in the Oglethorpe's parlor (i.e., not even in Thomas' possession, or likely his awareness.) Possibly so it could re-enter his possession upon his release? First explanation for the clock's presence, I suppose we could imagine this act as part of Ashe's last will, as in, "if I die send this clock to this plantation", but that's a lot for the audience to assume. The second explanation would be that it's a "tell" or a wink/nod easter egg given by the directors to attentive viewers, it's very presence meant to hint at the fact that the whole sequence is fabricated (because no logical explanation for its presence is given). The third explanation is that it's just an oversight by the directors/scene design team, they just wanted to put a grandfather clock in the parlor and that's one they had, and they didn't realize it was the Hamilton's clock because it had been a few years since using it in the show. IDK I'd love to hear thoughts on this as to me it's the most mysterious part.

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I love Black Sails however, before joining this sub I didn’t know how much people disliked episode one (esp Eleanor’s introduction and the Blackbeard scene) or how much people disliked season one compared to the other three seasons.

I think the show gets better from episode one to the end of season one, and that each season is better than the last, so ofc season one (to me) would be the “worst” season. (Though I still love it haha and had no problem watching it!)

I haven’t watched episode one in a while, and am on my second rewatch (I think), and skipped episode one, but I remember liking a lot of things about the first episode. The introduction scene/ battle on the ship and Silver’s introduction, Max, Eleanor, Silver, and Flint’s characters, the setting/ vibe, the costumes and hairstyles, and the amount of politics/ political plays. I even liked (and I’m probably in the minority here), the Blackbeard scene. I didn’t find much wrong with it haha. I also thought Eleanor’s introduction was good at introducing her character — she’s cool headed (doesn’t try to assert overt power/ dominance when is called a cunt) and values people based on how much profit they bring to the island (shows she’s a woman of power/ a businesswoman). And of course I liked it the most bc it was a show about pirates! I also can’t remember if in episode one Jack, Anne, and Vane were introduced, but again if they were — I liked these three characters as well, especially Rackham.

I’ve heard the main complaint (I think?) people have with season one was that it tried to be too into sex, nudity and violence, like Game of Thrones but with pirates, and I kind of get how it’s like this compared to the other three seasons, but at the same time I didn’t really mind this. My biggest qualm with season one was probably Max getting needlessly raped/ traumatised and then the show not exploring this later (maybe bc they didn’t want to put this rape/ trauma in for Max in the first place so didn’t want to explore it, or they wanted to push it under the rug in later seasons?). I think the most that they do is show how much Max likes Bonny bc Bonny saved her from this abuse, and so when Bonny fucks up, Max wants to repay her/ help her.

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Rewrote this to be more precise :).

I only managed 30ish minutes of episode 1. It was largely a 6/10 for me. Mixed bag of elements ranging from 3/10 to 8/10. There were a few 0/10 outliers and the back-to-back pair of them is ultimately what prevented me from finishing episode 1.

I can appreciate strong female characters. When Eleanor entered the scene my first thought was that her image didn't match the occassion. She looked too young. Too clean. Carried herself in a prideful but relatively inexperienced way. It clashed with the image I expected of an older hardy woman with plenty of experience and a long track record overseeing a bunch of rowdy men. As she gets insulted and hears how much $$ that ship made she proceeds to spell things out, showing her insecurity and furthermore painfully clashing with my expectations as to what her character should be. There are many things that I can personally surmise from that short interaction. Her probable charactet journey, some of her background, and why she's there. Ultimately I find the character, to my understandimg from those few seconds, to be flimsy and vastly inferior to what I wanted. It was to such an extent that the scene made me rage quit the show. Especially following the short series of gripes I had prior. I could expand more but you've all seen it and likely don't care to read 3-4 pages of a theory of a charactered authored by somebody that watched her for no more than 15 seconds. 0/10. If you really care I wrote a decent sized paragraph theorizing her background and theorycrafting a couple of ways to "fix" het character in a post on this thread. I stopped at a paragraph because I am sure that nobody cares lol.

Let us proceed to the preceeding scene (:3). The ladies. Why? It was so very abrupt and without any explanation. Do they have a unique price for each customer and need to see all new people to determine that price? I simply failed to see any reason for this scene other than as an excuse to have it. The movements looked highly choreographed and it was very short. I appreciated the opening with the smoke. They knew what they were doing there. What we got though was kinda LOL WTF IS THIS. No. I didn't like it. 0/10 rage.

As they come ashore one lady randomly has a bottle of alcohol. Why did she simply give it away?

As the episode opened I immediately noticed the CGI of the boat. The sails gave it away. It's fair for its time. Can't hate on it. Certainly not up to the quality of a movie from even before this was released but Black Sails isn't a movie. It's a series. CGI was slightly above average at a 6/10. This was the only CGI I saw in the body of the episode :). I wasn't looking for CGI. It just stood out like a sore thumb lol. Couldn't not notice it.

The ships were ships. I liked the detail of the back of the pirate ship. 9/10. Black Sails can definitely do ships.

No complaints about the lighting. A little bit unnatural and unbelievable in dark places but we do need to be able to see. I think that more variety of shades would have improved the hold last stand scene as the boat got boarded. It looked very binary to me. 7/10.

Tattoo boy was kinda. The show knew it was goofy too as a later scend confirmed the audience's thoughts by telling tattoo guy to stop being weird. The pirate crew appeared to be very diverse due to the outfits. This is one place I would have liked to see a diverse cast. I was sad when that wasn't the case. The middle eastern garb looked out of place due to the character that was wearing it. I do have expectations rooted in stereotypes and don't like it when those expectations are not met. 4/10 to the crew.

The clumsy handling of the sword by the cook was noted. I do like details like this.

The costumes didn't look worn enough for my liking. They looked very clean and very new. The types of clothing, other than the state they were in, appeared to be atleast believable. More tatters please. 6/10.

The makeup shared the same issuecas the costume. I do expect dirty sailors :). 3/10.

I think the paper was fine. I have an image of rough edges but I don't think new paper from the 1700s would be that way :p.

Was the first mate the irate guy that wanted to dole out "justice"? That guy was peak cringe. Don't see how anyone could follow him. His entire speech... I don't know that I need to say more. It wasn't believable to me. I understand the background of lack of payments but this guy looked like a 1-dimensional Disney villain.

The episode was a 6/10 for me but the two back-to-back 0/10 scenes did me in. Don't think I'm capable of getting through this. Was really excited to finally watch it :(.

Cant wait for more eps.

First time watching through this (honestly surprising) amazing fucking bit of television. And I’ve had many switching emotions when it came to our captain Vane. But I did not want to see him die like this. He deserved a better death.

Don’t give anything away or spoil anything more just tell me how big of a spoiler this is.

I know flint and Miranda’s husband were in a romantic relationship. I’m only on ep 5 of season 1. Is this huge, minor?