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I’m seeking a bit on intellectual stimulation. I enjoy having casual discussion about these matters. So, I’m going to state my perspective, and hope individuals will pop by, and engage, and critique my perspective. I’m interested in having a discussion. I am interested in learning the how & why of perspectives & critiques, particularly ones that oppose mine.
Alright, that said:
A. What Religion is!
So, I am of the perspective that humans as such are perennially concerned with with three things:
Thus, a Religion, and a Religious Tradition, is one that answers the aforementioned questions. In particular provides prescriptions, as far as being as such is concerned, predicated on the answered provided to the first two questions.
B. That said, what is the actuality & legitimacy of Religion? Here’s my perspective:
I am of a Critical Realist perspective, in particular that of a Neoplatonist Metaphysics of a Plotinus. Thus, I am of the perspective that perception is relative, but the actuality of things is independent of perspective, perception, and wishful want. That said, the answers to the aforementioned three perennial questions/concerns is conception. The actuality of conception is predicated on the hermeneutic, and if the consequent conception & hermeneutic is an adequation to the actuality of things.
Thus, ontology, and morality, that is predicated on ontology, is objective; thus Religion as such may be assessed in matters actuality, and legitimacy.
Legitimacy being ”what should be allowed”.
It’s understood that we are able to know the actuality of things, that is to say we are able to understand, to intellect, the nature of existence, understand about matters metaphysics as such, or we will never be able to recognize it, and to verify it, if we were told about it, or to run into it. This whole exchange would be pointless, and discourse about the Philosophy of Religion as such would be pointless if we were not able to verify in matters metaphysics as such.
Thus, inferring the actuality, and also partaking in the critique of religion is possible via a Perennialist Perspective, which I am of, and which the aforementioned is a perspective of.
C. Finally, what is consequently the value of Religion? Here’s my perspective:
Religion does not tell one “how to think”. What religion does is tell one “what to think”. Religion answers the Perennial Question 3. And it does so via prescriptions. And via these prescriptions indirectly tells people “how to think”. But never does so directly. Religion, when legitimate, is a “rope” for the “blind”. Religion, when legitimate, is a guide for those whose intellects need to be objectified, and to think for them as their intellect are not able to used.
When a Religion is not legitimate it’s nothing more nor less than an opiate for the masses to manipulate the masses for respective ends by an institution as such. It does not empower the individual. It robs the individual. No longer is the religion for the individual, for the individual’s empowerment & peace, but the individual becomes for the religion and robbed of his, or her, empowerment via manipulation of the imaginative faculty of the individual.
That said, witnessing the legitimacy of a religious tradition as such, I am of the perspective that the value of a Religion is “redundant” relative to a “religious” tradition that teaches people “how to think”, and not ”what to think”.
A Tradition, a consequent religion, that is “Philosophy as Principle & as Way” is a greater, and a far superior “Religion“ than religion as such, as it teaches individuals to value the actual, to treat the other as one would treat oneself, and to live a life of value predicated on the actual… to seek a legitimate existence. All this via an education system that wishes to teach the use of one’s intellectual faculty, one’s rational & imaginative faculty, so that one may realize the answers to the perennial questions oneself.
This whole post is me thinking out loud. I’m just here for some critical discourse; critique of my perspective; for some “coffee talk”, for some intellectual stimulation.
Yep! So, if you disagree with me… please: respectfully, FIGHT ME! I’m interested in the how & why you find yourself disagreeing with me.
Hi, I am looking for any popular level book that talks about the nature and existence of a theistic, Omni-qualities God, but not a God who is tied to any of the religions on Earth, simply as an all-powerful being behind reality.
David Bentley Hart in his book, 'The Experience of God', remarks: "An absolutely convinced atheist, it often seems to me, is simply someone who has failed to notice something very obvious—or, rather, failed to notice a great many very obvious things." But then argues that "God" is not a proper name. Well, that's rather odd. It's pretty obvious that "God" is a proper name and Hart simply fails to notice it. The alleged existence of the referent of "God" surely cannot be more obvious than the fact that "God" is a proper name.
Hart believes that "Most of us understand that “God” (or its equivalent) means the one God who is the source of all things". But borrowing from Indian tradition, he prefers to define and speak of "God" as “being,” “consciousness,” and “bliss”. Hart appears to me to be a descriptivist about the name "God". But how does he know that the traditional descriptive understanding, as well as the Indian ternion he prefers, are true of what "God" is about? He fails to answer that basic question in the book. Anyone here who can help him answer that basic question?
Why do people pray? If Source is all good and all powerful and wants our happiness and things are unfolding exactly as they should be, why pray?
Would a kind and merciful Being only give what's best for us if we ask for it? I can't conceive of a God who would be that capricious.
What do you think?
Hey folks! As this idea has matured from the wonderful contributions and arguments by everyone who’s taken the time to engage with it, I’ve written something that’s related but not quite the same. It’s much shorter than this, and arguably makes more sense. Here’s the link if you’re interested.
If you’re reading this, I cannot overstate my appreciation for you. I hope something I say here might resonate with you the way it’s resonated with me, lately.
It’s hard to shake the feeling that the world has never been more disconnected. Communication feels fragmented, trust is eroded, and we seem further apart—not just physically, but mentally and emotionally—than ever before.
But what if this isn’t a permanent state? What if this disconnection is just part of a larger, natural pattern?
Everything in the universe moves in waves. From the oscillations of light and sound to the ebb and flow of tides, the rise and fall of civilizations, and even the peaks and troughs of human connection, cycles are everywhere. What if the human experience follows the same principle?
I’ve been exploring an idea I call “The Argument for Optimism.” It’s the idea that disconnection and chaos aren’t endpoints—they’re part of a cyclical process. Like everything else in the universe, the human experience ebbs and flows between periods of fragmentation and profound connection.
Here’s the logic, as best I can organize it:
Everything oscillates. Chaos and order are part of the same cycle. A trough, no matter how deep, is always followed by a rise. Why should human connection be any different?
In physics and nature, chaos doesn’t stay chaotic forever—it self-organizes into patterns of order. From galaxies forming out of dust to ecosystems balancing themselves, complexity naturally gives rise to structure.
In a deterministic universe, events sometimes align in ways so improbable that they seem miraculous. These moments of alignment—whether in nature, history, or personal experience—remind us that the improbable is inevitable over time.
In times of disconnection, certain people, ideas, or events act as “nodes” that catalyze reconnection and meaning. Think of figures like Jesus, Buddha, or even more modern examples of cultural and social unifiers. These nodes aren’t divine—they’re simply the result of the right circumstances aligning at the right time.
If everything moves in waves, then our current state of disconnection is temporary. The next wave of connection and meaning is coming. It’s not blind faith—it’s how the universe works.
What if humanity’s current disconnection is just a low point—a trough in the wave? What if we’re due for a rise, where profound connection and meaning emerge once again?
And what if this rise doesn’t require a god or supernatural intervention? What if it’s simply the natural flow of complexity, chaos organizing into order, and the universe’s patterns playing out?
I’d love to hear everyone’s thoughts!
This is for those who are already familiar with the logical problem of evil against the existence of the orthodox Christian God.
4 is logically incompatible with 1-3. What's your own best logical solution?
Does math being analytic or synthetic carry any importance to theology?
For example, does it impacts some Natural Theology arguments that concerns temporarily? Or effects God or Soul's nature to time and space? Or our reliance on science to justify religious beliefs? etc
Due to God's ontological nature in the existential realm, His nature is paradoxical, mainly because of His timeless existence.
0, likewise, is also impossible, as something cannot be both something and nothing at the same time.
Definition of paradox: A paradox can be understood as something that contradicts itself by principle, existing only in the immaterial realm and being impossible to exist in the material realm.
Introduction to paradox-y: All paradoxes are different ways of reaching the same result, which I call "paradox-y."
Paradox-y: This is a concept I invented; it is the effect generated exclusively by paradoxes. That's why certain paradoxes, though possible to replicate in the material world, have no effect—because they do not generate paradox-y.
Hypothesis: If all paradoxes are different ways of generating paradox-y, they are equivalent. It’s like two ways of solving the same equation; paradoxes are equivalent. God is a paradox. 0 is a paradox.
God = 0
Notes: I used ChatGPT to translate this; I'm not fluent in English yet, so if there are any spelling errors, please forgive me. (Aqui é brasil porra)
I created this entirely on my own and completely ALONE. This theory may be crazy, but it makes sense to me. Enjoy it!
It's not controversial that when people use "God", they don't really refer to an object or anything specific and conrete in the actual world. All that believers and unbelievers have and can agree upon is a definition of "God" (i.e., "God" is "that than which nothing greater can be conceived", or whatever definiens you have). But a definition like this doesn't really work, as it only leads to paradox of analysis: the definiendum "God" is identical to the definiens you have, but is uninformative, for any analytic definition like that doesn't really tell us something informative about what we refer to when using the definiendum and/or the definiens. What do you think?
Of course we can. Here's my Argument from transparency:
P1. If God (the maximally great being) exists, then God’s existence is plain to all whose mental faculties are functioning properly.* P2. But God’s existence is not plain to all whose mental faculties are functioning properly. C. Therefore, God does not exist.
The best example of what is plain to those whose mental faculties are functioning properly is the existence of the real world. If you do not know the existence of the real world, then how do you know that you and your doubts exist? If a maximally great being truly exists, his existence would be more obvious than the existence of the real world. But since this is not the case, those who do not already subscribe and submit to the dominant ideology of theism can only be justified to believe and conclude that God is really just a myth or a creation of human imagination, pretty much like the American superhero Superman.
P2 is true because there are many sane, intelligent, and perceptive people out there who do not perceive and believe that God exists. Without begging the question that a maximally great being exists, the alleged existence of such a being, who is also believed to be a person, cannot be reconciled with the fact that the alleged existence of such a being is not as transparent as the existence of the real world.
The fundamental problem with “God” talks in philosophical or even ordinary discourse is to determine, find, and fix its referent. I consider this the fundamental problem or challenge when using, as opposed to simply mentioning, the name “God”.
It seems to me that generally when apologists offer and discuss arguments for what “God” is about they simply ignore the fundamental problem (TFP). They talk as if TFP can be simply ignored and can be settled by the standard definition, “God is the maximally great being” (TSDG), plus the uncritical assumption that true believers in God have direct experience of God. But TFP cannot be ignored and cannot be settled by TSDG and the uncritical supposition that there is such a thing as direct experience of God (DEG).
But there is no such thing as DEG. There is no such experience because there is no verifiable and non-conceptual experience of God qua God. If this is correct, then all arguments in which apologists use “God” to assert something about what that name is about, can only be valid but cannot be sound. Since there is no such thing as a verifiable non-conceptual experience of God qua God, there can be no such thing as DEG and thus the hope for fixing the reference of "God" is dismal indeed.
I'm looking to contemporary, academic readings on issues surrounding revelation, such as how can we determine that a revelation comes from god? or why should we wait for a revelation in the first place?
Contemporary academic readings only, no medieval or non-academic works. I've only found Richard Swinburne's "Revelation" that tackels this. Unfortunately, it dedicates only few pages for it.
Thanks.
Hello everyone, I apologise in advance for the unsual post but I have been talking eith orthodox christians for a while, they all tell me that christianity is the objectivly right religion, some use the Transcendental Argument for God, others argue it is historically and experimentaly demonstrable while islam and others are not. I am not the best at philosophy or theology or debating so I wanted to take this to an audience that might help me find what's true and what's not.
Really appreciate it if anyone could fill out this survey! It is anonymous and through a google form that you do not need to sign in for. It asks about how religions function in society. All opinions are respected.
Really appreciate it if anyone could fill out this survey! It is anonymous and through a google form that you do not need to sign in for. It asks about how religions function in society.
Saw a really interesting video about the perspective of an atheist on the lds faith and doctrine. Answering things like the problem of evil.
I’m curious what yalls opinion on this video are. If there is any merits in this perspective or cross over. Or even if you noticed something similar in other faiths.
Hello, recently I have become aware of the fact that, even though I consider mysel to be an atheist, I am still under the "unconcious" control of Christian indoctrination. I have never been a Christian or anything like that, I've never believed in any god, but I still find myself thinking about going to hell, or imagining something like heaven etc.
Are there any books, articles or videos on this topic? Is it actually possible to "break free" from this? I know that in the psychoanalytic sense (Lacan specifically) god is equivalent to the Other, which we can never truly break free from, and if we did, it would actually be worse than before.
Thank you for different views on this problem.
I have a question about the metaphysics of atheism as it is defined by the standard definition of philosophy of religion. As I understand it, metaphysical atheism (the proposition that God does not exist) is a “term of art,” a domain specific technical term in philosophy of religion, useful for debating the existence of God. The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy says the standard metaphysical definition:
has the virtue of making atheism a direct answer to one of the most important metaphysical questions in philosophy of religion, namely, “Does God exist?” There are only two possible direct answers to this question: “yes”, which is theism, and “no”, which is atheism in the metaphysical sense.... It is useful for philosophers to have a good name for this important metaphysical position, and “atheism” works beautifully for that purpose. [plato.stanford.edu]
It is not clear to me how simply answering ‘no’ to this question is, on its own, a metaphysical position. It seems more like a placeholder. The philosopher that takes the ‘no’ stance will need to import something else (naturalism, materialism, empiricism…?) into their position before we can know anything at all about their actual metaphysics.
So my question is, does philosophy of religion hold that answering ‘no’ to the question is, on its own, a metaphysical position? Or, is it that philosophers of religion presume, for the sake of doing philosophy, that the metaphysics of atheism are equivalent to the actual metaphysical positions (naturalism, materialism, etc.) that would be part of an alternative to the proposition of theism? Or, is there another way to account for the metaphysics of metaphysical atheism?
https://lastreviotheory.medium.com/god-in-the-gaps-beyond-agnosticism-0d25d0450d4f
This article challenges the traditional question of God’s existence, suggesting that it is inherently flawed and rooted in a language game produced by the symbolic order. By positioning God as a “signifier without a signified”—a master-signifier—the article examines how God can be understood through the failures and gaps within language, moments where the symbolic order collapses and the subject encounters the Lacanian Real. Drawing distinctions between Kant’s concept of the “thing-in-itself” and Hegel’s “absolute,” the article argues that God’s existence resembles the latter: inherently inaccessible yet in front of our very eyes. Finally, it refutes agnosticism, contending that the existence of God is not unknowable but is, instead, hidden in plain sight.
Long story short, a person whom I considered my best friend (Muslim) and I had a major fight (not regarding religion). I was born into a Hindu household and considered myself agnostic since I was 16 (I’m now 24). In the last conversation we had, he told me he wasn’t supposed to trust non mahram women and so didn’t want to speak to me anymore. While I respected his decision and didn’t argue with him about his beliefs, I felt extremely hurt and broken. I thought to myself, how could someone have such strong conviction in faith while I really didn’t. I set out to learn a bit about Islam and other monotheistic religions. I came across various debates between Atheists and theists, Muslims and Christians etc. Watched and read some of the scriptures. Learnt a lot about philosophy, teleology, ontological arguments etc. I came to the conclusion that religion is most probably man made and the revelations are of humans and not of divine origin. But this left me feeling empty. If I don’t have a soul, if there is no God to return to, if there is no objective meaning to life, why am I here? And secondly, should I find it immoral to have children? (Antinatalism) Then I came across even stranger concepts such as how do you even know that you are conscious? What is consciousness? I felt immense despair. I thought, maybe my rationality is limited and cannot comprehend the truth. And all the arguments of religious folk sort of just boiled down to say “you have to believe. He will guide you if you have a sincere heart” or something on those lines. I have cried every night, begging god to help me know the path. I don’t even know which religion is supposed to be the “right” one. Then I came across philosophers like Ibn Sina, Ibn Rushd, non dualists like Shankaracharya and even Ramanuja, new age mysticism etc. I just don’t know what to do. I am so confused. The problem of infinite regression doesn’t sit right with me. I am inclined to believe that there was perhaps a first cause. So am I a deist? I feel like I’ve thought of things too much. Maybe I should have not thought so much. I would have been blissfully ignorant. I feel lost but I haven’t given up hope. I pray (not to anyone specific by name) so that I may be shown the right path but right now I don’t know what to do. I need help. My mind is stuck. I don’t see the point to living but I don’t want to die. I don’t know what to do.
I was thinking last days quite a lot about world, religion and culture and I wanted to ask you whats your thoughts about the actual situation? I'm ateist/agnostic type of person just because the stories about jews, Jesus or Allah don't seem realistic to me but I'm not trying to convince you I'm right etc. I just realized that the religion is really important tool and it allows to "control(?)" society and without it we have this weird situation in christian democtratics countries (usa, eu, au etc) that these millions of people actually doesn't belive in anything and because of that I find that people starts to believe in political parties (republicans vs democrats), they believe in zodiac signs or tarot cards (and other online voodoo witches), even youtubers or others influencers (andrew tate/taylor swift?). My point is, I feel like our civilization needs some RULES.
I'm not saying I'm 100% RIGHT, I'm just curious if you can relate to my opinion and I would like to know if you think the same I do.
And if you agree.. the last question (the hardest one): How to repair that? Or maybe we don't have to repair that? I believe that the most popular religions this day naturally evolved through centuries and they managed to survive because of their rules and approach to life philosophy and I think that proofs the point they were really usefull for our civilization. But today I see that christianity is falling down and islam is showing its strenght and domination (at least in democratics countries, idk what about asia/africa).
What do you think?
I created alot of arguments for the existence of God (I didn’t post them on Reddit) so I need to know if my arguments are better than the existing arguments because I searched a lot and the answer is the traditional arguments
The obsession with control and the fear of the unknown (ultimately the fear of death) pushes certain individuals to think of themselves as God, which is called the God complex, and which leads to perfectionism and hypercontrol. This phenomenon can lead to depression, anxiety or burnout. Isn't transhumanism one of the avatars of this God complex, among those who would like to be as perfect as robots (the robot being the imitation of the competent, tireless and infallible human)? Leaving the God complex involves accepting one's vulnerability and imperfections, and perhaps also accepting our ignorance as well as the fleeting fragility of life. But also to move away from the obsession with control, when all of society urges us to do so and even demands it. A real topical question.
The God complex is the rationalization of obsessive neurosis which is the pathology most valued by the system, instead of being considered an illness. This feeling of infantile omnipotence associated with perfectionism is characteristic of this relentlessness at work in a feeling that our actions have infinite importance, which is absolutely typical of obsessive neurosis, the God complex being a way of naming its morbid rationalization.
Just as in the Melanesian warrior tribes, megalomania is considered normal because associated with the self-pride that social norms prescribe to warriors, Western society considers obsessive neurosis to be normal, so that this God complex has become the official tacit doctrine of the international banking system that no one has the courage to name as such in the media.
It is true that the quest for possession and collecting, as well as the sometimes unhealthy obsession with cleanliness, are characteristic of obsessive personalities who are oriented towards order as opposed to chaos. However, we find radically opposite tendencies in the relationship to cleanliness and in the relationship to others among obsessive individuals, and we find either extremely deferential and obsequious individuals, who are in extreme perfectionism and lack hygiene, or people who are extremely arrogant and brittle with others, who are extremely clean and orderly while also being in a moribund perfectionism. The problem of the obsessive is to have a perfectionist mother who refuses her fecal gift (in the psychoanalytic sense), which means that she is an eternally unsatisfied, extremely demanding and perfectionist whom her child seeks in vain to satisfy, which makes him plunges into pathology if the father is not up to the task of individualizing himself and separating him from the mother, that is to say, cutting the umbilical cord from a symbolic point of view (therefore playing his role as a father symbolic). The obvious absence of the symbolic father in current society being correlated with the favoritism granted to the mother in the education of children, as well as deconstruction, now pushes certain psychologists and educators to consider that only the physical mother is necessary for the full and complete development of the human psyche. According to these intellectuals, the father would not necessarily be a physical person, but rather a fundamental psychological process in human beings, which is necessary for them to evolve, grow and become autonomous, certain psychological models being constructed so that children educated without their biological father can, according to these theories, build themselves in a harmonious way by taking as an example the adult males around them such as a grandfather, an uncle, a cousin, a film star whom they admire, and so on. However, better informed psychologists and educators know that the presence of the physical father is necessary for the good management of emotions, self-control, as well as the management of frustrations, which allow one to project oneself in the long term and to carry out studies successfully (as is evident in the scientific literature), the physical absence of the father sometimes also causing sadistic impulses which lead to delinquent or even criminal behavior, as is observed every day among the inhabitants of working-class suburbs. The absence of the father also favors obsessive neurosis for the lonely mothers who need to endorse both the role of the mother and the role of the father in education.
All of this emphasizes God complex presence in society. This absence of the father is concomitant with the absence of meaning in current society, as well as the renunciation of metaphysical and scientific realism, which has the consequence of trading in a rationalism of the truth-correspondency type (the truth being traditionally conceived as the fact of naming things correctly and putting the right words on the right objects, and is warranted by God who created the universe by naming its objects, as explained in Genesis), against a current and technical rationalism (we see the link with consumer society and the world of technology), in which truths are considered as instrumental, that is to say as coherent and temporary models supposed to allow correct predictions about the reality of phenomena, in the development of fallacious and instrumentalist epistemologies which deny Man's capacity to know. This comes from the Freudo-Marxist movements and other 1968 May intellectuals who wanted to give pride of place to relativism, and who consider that everyone has their own truth, and that each truth follows directly as a consequence of its own premises, and in particular of its own criteria and definitions of truth, which makes any assertion or proposition an opinion beyond any rational criticism, because to convince the other, we would have to make them admit our own premises, that are totally arbitrary, and from which our point mechanically follows. Relatvism is therefore the ideal hiding place for egalitarian sociologists who engage in permanent emotion by using egalitarian Christian ideals as well as the language of human rights (we see this in the taboo against a backdrop of permanent hysteria that constitutes Islamophobia or racism in general), in order to impose a way of life on current society.
However, contrary to popular belief which constantly pits them against each other in public debate, the belief, and Christianity in particular, is not at all incompatible with transhumanism. The subtle nuance is in the fact that the transhuman Man-God, through his consciousness of unus mundus (this is the ultimate reality and a generic transcultural concept of God introduced by Carl Gustav Jung), remains free to use his reason, and therefore to give it a form or a subjective interpretation (Allah, Brahma and the Christian God being such interpretations among others), through the development of one's own metaphysics or philosophy of life.
The central point is that the transhuman individual must not take himself to be a God himself, although he may then realize his divine nature, or the existence of his soul, as a part of the Whole and of God himself. Christianity allows this junction because it assumes that Man is in the image of God, and not God himself, which implies that his spiritual nature is identical to God, subject to a true spiritual awakening that will necessarily allow transhumanism through the resolution of the subjective/objective conflict which is at the foundation of all personal transformation, through the objectification of the subjective and the subjectification of the objective.
Ultimately, transhumanism is no more incompatible with Christianity than would be cell phone use, which also augments us. I even think that from a human and subjective point of view, we need to believe that beings superior to us exist or have existed, because this belief grants us the psychic resources allowing us to evolve spiritually.
Indeed, transhumanism does not put an end to mortality, even if it postpones the moment of death, because accidents remain possible, and it remains questionable whether the computer simulation of our own psyche, which cannot, however, reproduce the ineffable character linked to the unus mundus, can reproduce this divine spark of Man and be truly in our image, because it would not dispose, as Raphaël Enthoven also emphasizes in his recent debate on transhumanism, of the consciousness of the thing in itself or of the noumenal consciousness to which faith in God (which is the consequence of the soul) is linked, as well as the consciousness of the ineffable or of the unus mundus.
This is seen in particular by the fact that unus mundus would then be translated logically, in the logic of the predicates, by an ineffable feeling which is at the origin of our thoughts and would translate into the fact that A and not (A) is true (psychoanalysts would talk about life pulsion and death pulsion), this impossibility allowing the personal development of each being by pushing each individual, to rationalize sometimes A, sometimes not (A), and therefore develop one's thinking according to one's life experiences and philosophical development. The machine cannot simulate in a printed circuit the fact that A and not (A) is true, which our brain confusedly assimilates to a universal ineffable feeling. We all have paradoxes and contradictions in the funding of our personality, and for all of us, in a certain way, we believe that A and not (A) is true. Therefore psyche simulations cannot possess a soul nor be aware of the unus mundus.
We could therefore say that our own computer simulation would be a simulation "without a soul", and that our bodily disappearance would ultimately only augur the departure of our soul towards another world, whether it is a paradise or not, whether it is Christian or not. But no one noticed it.
Moreover, if we transcribe here the demonstration of Kurt Gödel when he tries to prove the existence of God, which his successors threw in the trash without understanding it, this means that unus mundus actually contains the field of possibilities, which contains the possibilities A and not(A), and which our brain translates by a diffuse and ineffable feeling, the progressive elucidation of which allows the thinker, sometimes to fix A, sometimes to fix not(A) in the development of his metaphysical doctrine or philosophical views, according to the events of his life which he will rationalize a posteriori. What I call unus mundus actually contains this field of possibilities, and even the impossible itself (certain thinkers like Derrida having associated thought with the impossible for this profound reason that it always starts from the principle that A and not (A) is true).
Indeed, Boolean logic which assumes exclusively two truth values, true and false, makes it possible to express all Peano arithmetic as well as ZFC, and is as such also subject to incompleteness theorems. The application of Gödel's theorem to this field of possibilities allows us to understand that there are propositions which are both true and undemonstrable, which therefore no logical development of human thought allows us to show, and corresponds to this which we call God. It is knowledge and not belief to say that there are an infinity of unprovable truths which are nevertheless true, and which are beyond us, although, as the constructivist approach in mathematics indicates, assuming that the infinity does not exist neverthless allows to approach it ever closer without ever reaching it.
As historical figures such as Nietzsche or Ramanujan himself intuitively felt, intuition provides access to these unprovable truths, which Hardy refused to understand and which Ramanujan could not explain. So he had a goddess who dictated equations to him in his sleep, most of which are still unproven, although they are true and contained in his notebooks, and will probably never be demonstrated for this reason. What needs to be proven is worth nothing, said Nietzsche. He didn't know how right he was. In a certain way, Gödel also proved that hard-working persons can never substitute to a real genius.
In mathematics, the hypothesis of the continuum is unprovable, purely intuitive, and is necessary for the construction of real numbers without which we would greatly lack the truths recognized today by mathematicians, and which allow us to set foot on the moon, to calculate the movement of the stars, the shift in the perihelion of Mercury, as well as introducing complex numbers, which are the basis of quantum physics, through exponential functions and this famous i which is itself an aberration resulting from a mathematical intuition according to which certain equations cannot be left unsolved when a square is negative.
Do you think transhumanism is compatible with Christianity and why? Is the God complex likely to favor AI in today's world? Each person having a paradox, a contradiction or a tipping point in their personality, which allows us to change, to develop personally, is this not a limit of transhumanism if the computer simulation of our personality must assume that A and not(A) is true?
If we assume that there is a higher power, an Omnipotent Omniscient Creator, that Created the world, why did they also make Evil and other bad things such as sickness, death pain and so on? Why not create a Perfect world? Why not make it so that its impossible for us to harm one another, impossible to get sick, and everyone has everything and a perfect life without any flaws? I never bought into the idea that "Evil needs to exist for good to exist" I think thats just cope so we dont have to face the painful reality of the fact that if the world was perfect, nobody would miss suffering even one bit. And why would anyone not want a world where harming others is impossible? Just sounds like they want to be able to cause harm.
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