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Just got word they're casting for a new streaming show of Neuromancer. I'm pretty excited
"im" "Neuromancer - the lane to the land of the dead" "Neuro from the nerves, the silver paths. Romancer - necromancer, I call up the dead" "but no my friend, I am the dead and their land"
I wonder if William Gibson had any thoughts about anamnesis
I finished Neuromancer a couple of weeks ago and I started Count Zero, and I’m just so in love with Gibson and his writing. I truly cannot think of any other writer I’ve read whose style so captivates me. I am, of course, planning to read his entire corpus.
However, I am just curious if there are any other authors that you find to be similar in any way? It’s hard to explain exactly why I find Gibson’s style so appealing. It’s just amazing world building I guess.
Edit: thank you so much for all the wonderful suggestions. Appreciate it a lot
About 60 or so pages in on my first read of Neuromancer and I noticed Gibson goes to great lengths to describe how every object, structure, or clothing item is made of weak or cheap materials. Plastic, chipboard, temper foam, nylon, and tarps are mentioned a ton when describing what things are made of. When there objects that are made of metal or some other quality material, he always makes sure to reiterate how little of it is used or how thin the material is.
I was wondering if there is the reason for this. Is there a materials shortage in the world of Neuromancer or is it meant to be commentary on how cheaply constructed everything is in this world/future?
i've been producing for 5 years now and i'm finally ok with releasing stuff...
it's a tribute to neuromancer, that's how i imagine a cyberpunk type future would sound like (very different of the synthwave and ebm usually atribute to that kinda of theme)
This is my stab at a fan casting for the show.
In the Sprawl trilogy, Molly Millions seems to have a conspicuously close relationship with the Finn.
In Neuromancer, she feels comfortable going to his place to talk business with Case (yes behind the screen, but she trusted that he wasn’t a rat). In Istanbul, Molly teases him that he must be being paid to wear a suit (as if she knew that it wasn’t his thing) and she points out multiple times that she knows that he’s homesick away from the Sprawl. He in turn warns the corrupt Turkish cop that he’d do well to not get in Molly’s way for his own sake.
In MLO, Molly goes looking for the Finn at her lowest point. When she sees that he’s dead and only exists as a construct, she talks in a pitiful tone and seems hurt that he’s gone. The Finn’s construct seems also to chide her for endangering herself (and for abandoning Case) and it’s obvious that he’d kept tabs on her and that his construct still does. Molly does not tolerate criticism or jokes directed at her from anyone except the Finn in the whole series.
Am I assuming too much by thinking that the Finn might’ve been her father?
I’ve read all of the books - Neuromancer several times.
In MLO, Molly and Kumiko meet with the Finn’s construct in the Sprawl so that Molly can verify that it’s 3Jane that’s set her enemies on her. Almost the first thing that she asks the Finn after the pleasantries is whether he knows where Case is because (Molly says) 3Jane might be hunting him as well.
With any other writer, this wouldn’t move the needles at all. Gibson doesn’t say a solitary thing without it needing to be said to flesh out characters and situations.
Molly is shown all throughout the trilogy to have grown necessarily callous to survive, and she isn’t sentimental about killing people - might less whether an ex associate (if that’s all they were) gets clipped after their business is concluded.
In MLO (remember that we hadn’t heard her speak since before she dumped Case) she initially only uses Kumiko but then seems to grow maternally fond of her. Later, when the Finn tells her that Case is legitimate now and “has four kids”, she immediately gets rueful and starts bitterly recounting her life after Case as being nothing but trouble. This is the closest thing to vulnerability from her in any appearance, and it seems centered on Case and the company of a young girl.
Is it possible that she missed Case and that part of her attachment to Kumiko was her imagining what their kids and life could’ve been if she hadn’t left him out of fear?
Let's see if I can follow through with the book, been meaning to read it for years but eventually the cyberpunk jargon makes me feel lost and I can't concentrate and I just give up. Took a walk tonight and it was surprisingly pleasant to read like this (I enjoy reading while walking, it's not uncommon for me, but I only read non fiction).
Hope you enjoy the picture!
I’ve always felt there was a lack of stories that reminded me of Event Horizon out there and this one just blew me away. Probably my favorite of the stories I’ve read in BC so far. I still have The Winter Market and Red Star, Winter Orbit, and Dogfight to go.
Imagine we're in the near future, maybe a decade or two from today. You have an AI, call it Stable Diffusion, version 284.7 or whatever... you can feed it any novel, tell it to depict the novel in the style of any director who ever lived, and get the novel rendered at you in real time. Who do you want to see direct Neuromancer?
This question was inspired by this guy on YouTube, who seems to want Villeneuve to do it so badly he already got midjourney to generate images of it, a year ago. Personally, I hate Villeneuve, but I do like the idea of asking an AI to make a movie like this.
Of course, a noir director like Hitchcock, or Fritz Lang, would be most appropriate for Neuromancer. Maybe somebody like Kubrick would capture the atmosphere better, though? You could also try silly things, like... what would Jim Henson's Neuromancer be like? Miss Piggy plays Molly? HAI-YA!!! LOL
Hello to everybody,
can somebody explain what exactly happens when Molly get captured at 3Jane's pool?
She shoots at Ashpool's hologram, throws a grenade into the pool and... then?
Riviera later mentions hydrostatic shock and having Hideo to draw the grenade.
Thanks in advance (I'm not English speaker and some part of the book are quite tricky for me).
Hi there! Cross-posting from r/Cyberpunk but I figured it's more relevant here.
I recently read Neuromancer for the first time for class and I noticed that many people both online and in my class had a hard time as first-time readers. As a fan of world-building, I decided to share my 23-page document detailing important locations, basically every character in the novel, and many many relevant terms, definitions, and companies (as you might know, the corporation/society dichotomy is quite an important staple to the genre). Spoilers in the guide so browse at your discretion. ALSO! A big credit goes to the William Gibson Wiki and a Reddit post on here by Gear-On-Baby titled: "Neuromancer Terms and Definitions." Let me know what I missed and if I got stuff wrong, I certainly could have since some of the definitions were just logic-based assumptions and I've only read through the book once.
I could also use help refining the blackbox defintion (e.g: the one Molly uses at Sense/Net and Case briefly mentions it after Linda breaks into his coffin) and defining cores in the context of "T-A cores" and Sikkim in this context: "The matrix blurred, resolved,
and he saw the complex of pink spheres representing a sikkim steel combine." Thanks!
Here's the doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ovTscY-bEuMNAEgNXTCXo2voDr7qRAf7QuDIZTYThXM/edit?usp=sharing
Edit: Thanks for all the info and edits, I’ll be sure to periodically update the doc with the new info I gather! It might just take me a bit with work and school, but it’s very much appreciated
Been reading Burning Chrome and may have stumbled across an interesting theme in Gibson's writing.
In a fair few of his stories, powerful/futuristic technology is destroyed by something incredibly simple.
In Neuromancer, Col. Corto's helicopter is shot down by an "obsolete Finnish anti aircraft gun"
In Count Zero, the Simstim star that Turner is tasked to look after in a flashback is killed by "a simple landmine booby trap" despite all the effort he puts into surveillance and technology to protect her.
Then in Dogfight (in the Burning Chrome collection), the veteran who was a cybernetic pilot literally wired into his jet fighter is shot down by an unnamed rebel with an antique surface to air missile launcher.
I think it might be a way of symbolising the fragility of power. Despite wealth, high tech or expert training, the simplest thing can destabilise that and destroy it.
Let me know if anyone sees any other examples of this or whether I'm just going mad from reading this series for the dozenth time.
So I’m halfway through CZ and I just read the chapter where Lucas and Bobby meet with the Finn.
The Finn mentions Bodine Wilson (after hearing Bobby use his name as an expression for a fuck up) working with Dixie Flatline in the past and I assume that would’ve happened while he was human (not a construct), but is there any other mention of it in this book, other books or even short story covering this?
Maybe I just need to shut up and read through it more, but I’m just very curious about Dixie Flatline as a character and I wondered if WG ever expanded on those two seemingly eccentric characters working together…
Recently I discovered the Gibson's universe and I was curious to read neuromancer. I always like the Cyberpunk theme, but I don't like books with excessive descriptions like The Lord of the Rings. Should I read neuromancer?