I mean I might sound weird but hear me out guys, what we got in the anime was a mere fraction of Obito's time in Madara's cave and I have a lot of questions about those scenes, because they left a lot of plotholes, it would be nice to get a data book that explains everything in more detail like how much time he spent, an in detail explanation of how Madara managed to save Obito and stuff like that. The anime left me (at least) unanswered in some points, being passionate in biology I would like to get a detailed anatomy of Obito's body after being reconstructed with hashirama cells. I hope somebody else would get my point and that we could in the near future get something like this.

The general consensus for big villages are: Leaf > Cloud > Stone > Sand > Mist.

What about others?

If there was ever a plan to do a naruto spin off, following all new characters and locations, which village would you want to see be the star of the show?

Personally Id love to see a story following someone from Kirigakure, The Mist village always fascinated me since we learned about from Zabuza and Haku. It feels like it would make for a more darker ninja fantasy story. Its was stated by Zabuza that rather than graduation students were expected to survive battle royals and death matches to move up rank.

I wouldnt want a grand naruto level story, but something more down to earth and personal. Maybe following a Jonin who survived the trials of the Bloody Mist years ago now living with the guilt of his actions of his past but still puts on a cold expression and steel heart to do his job.

I’ve been thinking a lot about Obito’s character and honestly, I don’t think people give his change enough credit. When you really look at his story, it makes sense. The guy’s a tragic character, no doubt. He lost his parents at a young age because of the war and ended up as an orphan. Then, he finds someone in Rin who truly understands him, someone who’s there for him no matter what. So yeah, when Madara manipulates him in that cave and gets him to believe that the system of “true peace” is a joke, it’s already a major blow. But then, seeing Rin, the one person who had his back, get stabbed by the guy he thought he finally started to get along with? She wasn’t really the sole reason of his character change. It was things building up where she became the breaking point. It was like everything he’d been through in life l, all the pain and loss culminated in him rejecting the very system he once wanted to protect. I get it. He didn’t suddenly become evil for no reason. He was pushed to his limits, and Madara’s manipulation is what really took him over the edge. It made sense why he started going down that dark path.

But then comes his redemption arc… And man, that’s where it all falls apart for me. It’s just too rushed and feels like it’s happening way too easily. One minute, he’s this cold-hearted villain who’s all about creating an illusionary world, and then suddenly, he’s “saved” in the blink of an eye? It’s just too good to be true, and it doesn’t sit right with me.

The worst part is how he dies. I really hated how the show treated his death. Naruto and Minato? They basically just brush it off like it’s nothing. Then Naruto goes on and says, “He’s the coolest guy,” like, bro, this guy literally murdered your parents and is the whole reason you were ostracised. I’m not saying I hate his character, far from it. I think he’s one of the most complex characters in Naruto, but the way they wrapped up his arc didn’t do him justice. Maybe if he didn’t die like that, and had the chance to genuinely repent for his actions, it would have been better. If it was Kakashi who was the one to snap him out of it instead of just a quick turnaround by Naruto, it would have felt way more earned. But yeah, the ending just didn’t sit well with me.

Am I the only one who feels this way?

VS Haku: Draw. Haku wasn't even taking them seriously and Naruto only got a single hit in before Haku had to leave to help Zabuza

VS Orochimaru: loss

VS Kimimaro: loss, while the fight wasn't actually finished Naruto was getting cooked and Rock Lee had to save him

VS Sasuke: Loss

VS Deidara: Draw. Deidara was actively trying to leave cus he had no bussiness fighting these guys as his job was done, Kakashi then used the seal tag to calm Naruto+they were jumping Deidara

VS Orochimaru: Draw. Got repressed by yamato though the fight seemed pretty even up to then

VS Pein: 50%. Reason I'm saying 50 is cus it was sage mode that took out the other bodies, if the other bodies were still active 6 tailed would've gotten clapped

So as you may have noticed out of 7 times he's only got 1 win. Please tell me if I've missing anything. Also I didn't include the Neji fight on purpose as that was controlled and all it did was open his chakra coils while what most people use to say he was carried was the rage moments not the controlled ones

Let's take a look at his win rate without Kurama's chakra

VS Mizuki: Win

VS Kakashi: Loss

VS Kiba: Win

VS Gaara: Win. He didn't actually use Kurama's chakra in the fight he just shapeshifted Gamabunta into Kurama because Gamabunta said he would be able to fight better if he had opposable thumbs or something like that

VS Tsunade: Loss

VS Kabuto: Win

VS Sasuke(rooftop): Draw

VS Kakuzu: Win

VS Pein: 50%, same reason I already gave

Again correct me if I forgot anything. I also purposely didn't include any fights that weren't a 1v1 on for the regular Naruto fights, just to give rage mode a chance

So as you can see rage mode has a 21% win rate while regular has a 61%

Forgot to send the snake sketch for like 1 year💀 sorry

Although the beginning of the story is not perfect, Kishimoto manages to explore in Boruto ideas and elements that he has had in his head for years.

TBV is being a lot of fun and I recommend that you give the manga a chance, if you see it with an open heart you might end up having a lot of fun reading it.

I really had reservations watching Naruto/Shippuden, over 700 episodes excluding Boruto, that i plan on watching, it is by far the longest show let alone anime i have ever watched. i would really like to say it was all worth it including filler episodes. That being said, this series has completely taken over my life. i absolutely love the show although i hated how dumb Naruto kept insisting on being lol. I would also like to add that that this subreddit is awesome and has been a great place to look for answers and questions and have even started participating myself. sorry for the rambling haha

My favorite is Eight Trigrams: Palm Rotation

I feel like the only reason people both in canon and the fandom reacted so negatively about it was because they just weren't used to Sasuke saying that. Sure, Kiba said it but nobody cares about him. Hokage is Naruto's whole thing, and for Sasuke to say that after he's spent his entire life chasing after revenge is so...odd.

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Honestly though, I can understand where he's coming from. Konoha, the elders, Danzo, Hiruzen, were the reason the Uchiha massacre took place. They're the ones responsible for forcing Itachi to kill his clan, and the ones responsible for ruining Sasuke's life. After finding out the truth about Itachi, Sasuke fully realizes just how corrupt the system is.
And there's nothing they can do about it. Itachi was 13, Sasuke was 7 when his clan was killed and he's 17 in this. It's just like real life, we know how injust the system is, and when peaceful protests stop working, you usually get a revolution. Itachi tried peaceful protests, tried to be a pacifist and that didn't work. So Sasuke in turn resorts to revolution. He'll become hokage and change the village from his POV.

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also if u guys dont understand sasuke's way of thinking or want to know more, https://sasukerevolution.tumblr.com/post/666306121170141184/how-do-you-think-sasuke-learning-about-how-the this is a rlly rlly amazing char analysis, and its well written too! personally i hate ppl who dont want to or try to understand characters, especially sasuke because oh my god he's such an amazingly written character because you can just see how he's a victim of the shinobi world, instead of the 'emo edgy bastard who hates everyone' SOME of the fandom sees him as

I've seen a lot of posts defending and criticizing Sakura's fake confession in the Land of Iron during the 5 Kage Arc.

My take on the whole event:

This was Sakura at her lowest moment but there was no resolution to this.

The biggest problem with Sakura's fake confession is that it NEVER gets brought up again. Sakura doesn't apologize to Naruto for the burden she put on him and never considers his feelings.

Sakura burdened Naruto with everything because she was too weak to do anything.

Sakura never knew how Naruto felt about her until Sai said something. Sakura never doubted her feelings for Sasuke throughout the entire show. She still liked Sasuke:

• When he left for Orochimaru in Part 1
• When they reunited in Orochimaru's lair at the beginning of Shippuden
• During the fight on the Samurai Bridge
• Near the end of the War Arc when Sasuke was about to fight Naruto

The problem with Sakura's fake confession is that it isn't genuine but only "A means to an end". If Sakura ever doubted her feelings for Sasuke before the 5 Kage Arc maybe her confession would make sense but Sakura never considers Naruto for a second because according to the author "moving on from a crush makes you a bad person".

Nobody would fault Sakura or Karin for moving on from Sasuke after the 5 Kage Arc.

Anyways after Naruto catches her red-handed, she throws a fit (for no reason) and then leaves. She says, “I’m sorry,” in her mind, but not to Naruto's face.

There's no resolution or Heart to Heart between Naruto and Sakura after the 5 Kage Arc but before Naruto goes to train with Killer Bee.

Naruto apologizing to Sakura for disguising as Sasuke to talk to her

Sakura apologizing to Naruto for treating him like he was stupid and saying what she said in the Land of Iron

People claim Sakura did this to save Naruto's life and remove a burden that she (thought she) placed on him.

But let's be real Sakura didn't save ANYONE. Naruto and Kakashi end up saving her from her shit plan. So it doesn't even make sense. Who tf did she save?

Sai

Sai is another subject of interest and is pointed to as the reason why Sakura did what she did but my question is this:

If Team 7's bond was so strong then why is Sai easily able to gaslight Sakura into thinking that Naruto only wanted to bring Sasuke back for her sake?

Is Sakura unaware of Naruto's bond with Sasuke and how Naruto relates to Sasuke, that Sai can trick her into thinking it's her fault because she thinks she is the center of Naruto's world?

Is Sakura THAT arrogant she thinks she is the center of Naruto's world? Plus this was before Sai made her feel bad because during that time he went 4 tails on the Tenchi Bridge she (attempts) to tell him to stop trying to save Sasuke as she will do it instead. This proves she doesn't understand why Naruto wants to save Sasuke.

Sai then tries to say "Sakura is not an idiot, nor is she a child who wouldn't understand the situation and circumstances"

Sai doesn't know Sakura that well because when it comes to Sasuke all of Sakura's development is flushed down the drain and she reverts to Part 1 Sakura.

Shizune and Shikamaru

Shikamaru & Shizune essentially said if nothing is done about Sasuke blood will be shed and it'll be on Konoha's hands thus breeding more war. Sasuke at this point was going trigger-happy and willing to kill anyone who stood in his way. Say if Sasuke actually reached Konoha to kill everyone would Ino and Sakura still be crying? Would Naruto still beg everyone for Sasuke's forgiveness?

Naruto

As much as I want to blame Sakura, Naruto is to blame as well. Naruto doesn't communicate with Sakura about the truth about Itachi and the Uchiha clan but does with Kakashi and Yamato. Doesn't Sakura deserve to know? She was on Team 7 as well. When things start getting bad, he just doesn't say anything to his friends/comrades and runs off, he crashes out when it comes to Sasuke.

Sakura's Plan Doesn't Make Sense

What was Sakura’s brilliant plan if Naruto bought her fake confession? Walk hand in hand back to the Leaf?

Say everything goes as planned and she tricks Naruto into believing she loves him AND she kills Sasuke. Then what? She thinks Naruto is going to be so "in love" with her that he will just overlook her killing Sasuke? Again if this bond with Naruto is "so strong" why does she think Naruto will be okay with her killing Sasuke?

IMO if Sakura's plan succeeded Naruto would've never forgiven her.

No Resolution

So Sakura lies to her supposed "best friend", Sai catches on to her plan and tries to stop her before she knocks out her teammates when they all agree to kill Sasuke together. And for what? What does this all lead to? Were you expecting a resolution to all this drama?

There isn't.

Sakura tries to trick Sasuke saying that she abandoned the Leaf and that she's joined him (Sakura still has on her Konoha headband btw). Sasuke tells her to kill Karin to prove her loyalty. Sakura walks up with a poisoned kunai to give Sasuke a slow death I guess?

Side note: Sakura is shocked that Sasuke feels cold. What is she talking about? She met him again at the beginning of Shippuden and he was pretty cold then.

Side Note 2: How does Sasuke know Sakura is a healer? He's never seen her use medical ninjutsu

Also, Sasuke is IMMUNE to poison so her poisoned kunai wouldn't even work LMAO. (Kakashi even said this)

But surprise surprise she fails miserably and needs to be saved by Kakashi. Then Sakura gets another chance and uses another kunai (WHY) to try and kill Sasuke but yet again freezes up before Naruto saves the day.

What was even the point of all this? Sakura doesn't contribute anything to this whole arc and wastes everyone's time showing she has no self-respect for herself and that she only exists as a love interest for Sasuke.

I'd prefer if Sakura FOUGHT Sasuke like she did in Ultimate Ninja Storm 3 Full Burst but we can't have nice things. Sakura must be eternally attached to Sasuke's hip because that's her whole character.

At this point in the manga, Sakura could've taken on Sasuke. He just got done killing Danzo, was low on chakra, and was going blind. Sakura didn't even throw one measly punch at him SMFH.

Even in the manga, Sakura says that even though she's a ninja all she does is cry and rely on Naruto. It feels like Part 1 Sakura has returned again. When Sasuske isn't in the picture Sakura is relevant and a good character but the minute he appears so does Part 1 Sakura. Saying she'll have faith in Naruto and Sasuke like WTF. She's putting everything on Naruto again because she's too weak to do anything.

Only Naruto and Sasuke get a resolution while Sakura contributes nothing and her drama throughout this Arc is rendered a waste of time.

Conclusion

People will argue and say that Naruto would've forgiven Sakura regardless.

To that, I say yeah of course BUT. Sakura herself needed to initiate an apology and come clean to Naruto because SHE wronged her best friend by selfishly placing her desires on him.

The perfect time to do that was after the 5 Kage Arc but before Naruto left to train with Killer Bee.

SHE chose to lie about her feelings and manipulate Naruto into giving up on Sasuke. She didn't even "try her hardest" because she could have chosen to talk to Naruto heart to heart by themselves without everyone else around and tell him that Sasuke was no longer worth the fight and both their well-being was more important, but she didn't.

Just poorly resolved and handled if you ask me.

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Reanimation of the Hokages was a major advantage to the Allied Shinobi Force. What if they weren't revived, how would the outcomes have changed in such a scenario??

Let's consider Sasuke somehow turned out to be the same as in canon, without getting to know Hashirama's stories.

Wouldn't the war basically end with that tailed beast bomb if Minato was not there to teleport it? In that case, didn't Orochimaru's nasty experiments help humanity?

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There were already 7 bijuus inside, so he could have absorbed chakra from the statue to heal himself and could have made a colossal chibaku tensei to seal the nine tails.

Why didn't he use it?

I don’t know if this has been asked before but curious to what people come up with. If other anime characters were in Naruto what would their jutsus be

Even though I think this is a pretty generic answer in the verse, and also very aware of his immense popularity, Itachi is by a landslide my favorite character in Naruto.

My reasons vary. In first place I just stan the Uchiha more than any other clan or group of people. Their story is tragic. It involves a permanent and constant cycle of hatred and vengeance. The sharingan is like a price you must pay for being born Uchiha. You are born with it? Then you are also thrown into the madness of holding one. Their difficult beginnings and Madara’s descent into chaos and flash forward until the coup in the almost present tense where one is led to believe Itachi and Sasuke are the only surviving Uchiha. Itachi’s portrayal as one of the coldest, heartless beings. How he plays the part perfectly. And how this perspective is flipped once you are revealed the truth of the matter and the duties he had to carry for the sake of his brutal mission. Nawww bruh. Just pure insanity.

That being said, the last thing that he tells Sasuke also makes me tear up: “no matter what you do from now on… I will always love you.” Damn…. Maybe i am just in my feelings or I’m being dramatic or overly sensitive. But when I read those words they echo and start resonating from within, making me believe that I too want to see or hear them for myself, that I too, am looking for somebody to love me regardless of what actions I may take. If I rise up, if I fall down, if I win all my battles, or lose all of them, is there somebody out there that can pronounce those words? Does that person exist? Where could you be I think to myself, and Itachi serves to me as a fictional reminder that perhaps somewhere out there, hopefully, in this world that we live in, someone loves me dearly no matter what happens.

Sp my understanding of his character, is that he is heavily interested in money. To the point it's somewhat of an obsession. Do you think he would teach his skills/ageless ability for a price?

I personally think the jonin system/how you become a jonin should be more known, because we have big exams on how you become a genin/chunin but we don’t know anything about how you become a jonin.

Does it even make sense for Madara to be the FINAL villain?

What i mean is, in the very first arc, it's established that the ideal Shinobi is an emotionless tool, who completes the task given to them no matter what.

The wave mission is a perfect example of this. The only reason the main cast even fight zabuza and haku is because both sides of the conflict were given conflicting missions. Neither side has any personal stake in the matter.

This theme is present throughout the entire series, as every major antagonist Naruto faces is being manipulated (being used as nothing more than a tool) or is themselves manipulating things in the background.

Gaara/sand village: manipulated by orochimaru to attack the leaf

Orochimaru/ kabuto: one of the greatest manipulators of the series and his right hand man

Sasuke/sound 4: manipulated by orochimaru

Akatsuki: manipulated by Obito

Obito: manipulated by madara

Taking this into account, I don't think Madara (or anyone who had ever called themselves a Shinobi) could've been the final villain. Why would the final villain be another Shinobi (tool), instead of the grand manipulator?

Sorry if this doesn't make sense, just something I had in my head.

do you think some new big bad is going to be introduced? do you think it’s going to be disappointing? the story has been going for over 20 years now and they’ve kept the story going for so long that I don’t know how they could conclude it without disappointing a lot of people. every major/once major character is either irrelevant or so strong now that I can’t imagine a realistic threat suitable of closing out the naruto/boruto series. the only thing I can think of is something above the otsutsuki or maybe like a god of chakra or something but that still seems ridiculous. the story that was set up at the start is long over and idk how kishimoto is going to pull off a good conclusion. i’m not a boruto hater or anything I think the story is fine im just worried about it burning out and being abandoned before it gets a good conclusion.

surely this has been seen before, but what is the meaning of it. I'm only on my first watch right now so not sure.

Hello there,

Hope this isn't much of a noob question.
I am rewatching naruto and I stumbled upon a youtube short of the fight between the ambushed mist villagers and kakashi. The quality of the video is way better than the animation from the original naruto. Not in terms of resolution but it's a new animation, new ratio. I saw the 20th anniversary video again but this clip was not there. Here are some pictures for reference (left is the youtube short and right is the episode i'm watching. Anyone know if there was a remake or is this a shippuuden flashback? (if yes know the episode?)

Thanks in advance :D

Naruto gasp

Kakashi sliced

Mist ninja emerging

Is there any official explanation for why Edo-Tenseis have unlimited chakra, or where they draw it from? I mean, of course it’s an anime, but it seems to me like a physical contradiction within the Naruto world.