As we know all the holy quintet have their witch forms, but obviously, Madoka is the most powerful one now I already made an AU where Madoka becomes KG and the other holy quintet members turned into witches and she basically makes a group with them called the witches council, but this is out of that AU

would KG also absorb witches something like I forgot that stage construction, which is name but yeah, we know she basically will absorb the earth so if she finds someone like Oktavia do you think she would drain her or take her into her heaven

I guess what I’m trying to say here is if any of the holy Quintin members became witches KG tried to find them and put them into her heaven, thinking she’s giving salvation to her friends

basically, a simpler way to pull it is what if the other members of the holy Quente became witches, and Madoka became a witch last with her witch search the Earth trying to find the other four

I made an AU about this already, but it doesn’t answer this question exactly it’s more of a witches have been given humanity and now they want to turn the Earth into a wasteland and rebuild it voodoo And it’s up for next generation to stop it

But just I wanna see what the community thinks about this question

Sorry if this has been posted already, but I just saw this:

https://x.com/Nag_Peach/status/1862848694850064563

And I went to the website: https://puella-melodia.com/

But I can't tell what it is?

I just finished my first watch of Madoka (2011 TV series only) in mostly two days and I am obsessed. Since it first came out, I've tried to watch this show four separate times but always dropped it sometime after the third episode. >!Not because I was sad but because I was bored and as a kid I thought it was being edgy to be edgy. Yeah kids are known to have great opinions. I nearly dropped it again after the first episode. Dunno if something in my head clicked where I found the girls' feelings a lot more palpable because I got older, interests changed, and I began appreciating the worldbuilding SO MUCH more or what but yeah. !<

Bottom line, I was curious and looked for discussions for the anime in 2011. some were live discussions, some, I'm not so sure. My question is, how did people watch Madoka in 2011 when streaming services had yet to drop episodes much quicker? (if they did, I'm sorry... in 2011 I watched anime in 3 parts on YouTube).

did some individuals stream out of their own volition for others, and people watched live without any subtitles? or, did subbing teams pull the episodes as soon as possible and try to drop it asap, and it was a matter of individuals torrenting them quickly?

Alina gray,mitama,the tart magica girls (although these are already confirmed) I would also like to see the "varied forms" of the characters remain, I would love to see Holy Mami, Ultimate Madoka and Akuma Homura there too.

Context :

Recently, because of some Pmmm Manga getting published in my country, I got myself back into reading those. Then, I find it interesting to try to read every manga in the Pmmm franchise. So I looked up how many there were, 31, as far as I’m aware, and I then started my quest this spring. And with the 4th movie coming, I will try to finish everything before it’s release. I also wrote notes about what I thought about those while reading but only thought now « why not try to write what I think about those for whoever is interested ? ». So here am I, and what a better place to start than the original adaptation of the anime ( or is it?)

Mahou Shoujo Madoka★Magica:

Vol 1 cover ( got more of them pixels )

First thing, I think it’s interesting to look a bit at the context of this manga.

It was published as the anime was airing, only starting a month after the anime started, from February to May 2011. The art and reinterpretation of the story was made by Hanokage, an artist which at the time only worked on illustrations and comic anthologies, so it was their first manga. ( they made the illustration for the episode 1 end card of the anime )

ep 1 end card

Hanokage also mentions that this manga is technically more an adaptation of the script than an adaptation of the anime. Of course, the anime was being made as the manga was being published so they couldn‘t really take inspiration from it outside of the concept art and storyboard.

I think this context is important especially when comparing this manga to the anime because it mostly explains its shortcomings. But there is also more context to which I will talk about later.

It's a 12 chapter manga with each chapter being the equivalent of an episode in the anime, for a total of 3 volumes.

First thing, about the story itself. It’s Madoka Magica as you know it … mostly. There are a few differences, some scenes are missing, some happen slightly differently, there are some additions and the dialogues are a bit different sometimes, but it’s 90 % the same when it comes to the story itself.

Though, despite those few differences, the overall execution of the story is definitely less impactful. The pacing is quite fast and it’s not helped by the suppression of some scenes which also has an impact on the characterization and theme of the story which are very weakened by this execution. The action sequences are by example very fast, the confrontation between Mami and Charlotte is like, two pages long.

Another good example of the story suffering from the execution would be in chapter 6, the equivalent of episode 6. Toward the end of the episode, Sayaka and Kyoko are going to fight on a bridge. Just before this, there is a small scene with Kyubey calling Madoka for help because of the situation Sayaka’s in. It’s a nice small scene that manages to be relevant because of the poem shown in it and also because it definitely shows Kyubey manipulative nature in calling Madoka for help in hope that she will make a contract.

In the manga, this small scene is absent, so not only all those small nice additions to the story disappear, but most importantly, Madoka comes out of nowhere to help Sayaka like she just has a « Sayaka is in danger » sensor, which kinda comes out as incoherent.

I also said that the dialogues received some modification. A funny example would be Hitomi being more joking about the « forbidden love » thing instead of being … in the closet. But most of the time, those dialogues end up, compared to the anime, to be less impactful and meaningful. Though, it’s a flaw that comes with a quality. Pmmm is quite a dialogue heavy anime and just writing the exact same wall of text would have certainly made them quite less pleasant to read than they are to listen ( I specifically say this because I personally find some exposition sequence in the anime to be a bit too much, so having to read them instead of listening to them would have been even more unpleasant ) .

Though, if the pacing is not great in the first two volumes, it is definitely better in the third one. This can be explained when looking at Hanokage’s notes. They say in volume 1 that they did what they could with their limited amount of pages, and in volume 3, they say that they managed to obtain more pages for this one. Hanokage clearly had limitations that had an impact on the quality of the pacing. And the third volume is clearly better and also allows itself to have a nice original epilogue sequence between Madoka and Homura which is nice and cute.

Now, let’s talk about the art.

Again, the context plays a role in this, but comparing it directly to the anime, it’s a enormous downgrade.

https://preview.redd.it/pwjm543qk14e1.jpg?width=1100&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c8115a8884ebeaac701686406d81b43745885cab

First to talk about the good. Though I prefer Ume Aoki’s design, Hanokage still manages to make the characters look cute in contrast to the story. This art is also quite clean and consistent most of the time, we don’t have the « meguka faces » problem of the anime. There are also a few nice ideas here and there in terms of composition, paneling and interpretation of some scenes. Not necessarily better than the anime, but still competent enough. This is also the case for a lot of the design changes, I don’t necessarily prefer them, but I like that they exist and they help give this manga its own identity and not just be the same as the anime.

Vol 2, kyoko's spear

Vol 3, homura's clothes

Vol 1, Homura's shield

(For those who think that Hanokage is a freak and a weirdo for wanting to abuse a young girl, it’s actually a mistranslation, it should be translated as « I want her to abuse me », so Hanoka is a freak and a weirdo for wanting this young girl to abuse them and not the other way around, thank you /jk)

There is also one addition that I personally really enjoy, it’s the presence of the Hara Hara tokei in the « homura making bombs sequence ».

Vol 3, kanji reading Hara Hara Tokei

What is it ? A book/pamphlet written by the « East Asia anti-Japan armed front », a Japanese far left terrorist organization acting mostly against capitalism and Japan Imperialism in the 70’s. It was originally supposed to be present in the anime but didn’t made it into the final product. However, it was kept in the manga. For why do I like that the manga decided to keep it, I don’t know, probably has nothing to do with reading Kyubey as a capitalistic system and Homura trying to fight against that system making it quite fitting thematically.

However, this kinda stop there, because the manga is honestly quite bland to look at overall despite a few nice stuff implemented. The overall composition and paneling usually have nothing really special to it, the artstyle is very simple, more than half of the time, the backgrounds are absent, and the composition of some action sequences are not very good which makes them not that pleasant to read ( which is not helped by the fact that they can also be too short ). It’s really a problem in my opinion because in comparison to the anime, Pmmm is a story that relies heavily on visual storytelling, symbol, cinematography yadayada. So a lot of the ambiance, theme and idea are not translated into the manga. For example, the whole Gekidan Inu Curry style of the Witches labyrinth is totally absent.

There are also some changes that I personally quite dislike, like Mami’s death which is shown in a more gruesome way ( I personally prefer the « cut by the screen » and the gruesome aspect of her death being only implied and not directly shown to the spectator which is much more impactful but also more respectful for the character by not turning their death into a show to look at ). Or kyubey having a clearly evil look after the final reveal of the soul gem ( I much prefer kyubey keeping the exact same composure showing how much he is detached from the situation and making him less obviously evil ). But it’s not necessarily bad and I could even understand why another would actually find how it’s done here more impactful.

Although, kinda like for the writing, the art for the third volume is also better. This can be explained by Hanokage having more time to draw this third volume. At the time of it’s airing, the last two episodes of Pmmm were delayed because of an earthquake. Because the manga could not be published before the anime, Hanokage obtained more time to work on this volume and it clearly shows. There is much more background drawn, better ideas in terms of composition, longer fight and better art overall.

So basically, what did I think about this manga. I think I was pretty clear that this manga suffered from the context it was made in, which inevitably makes it a far inferior product compared to the anime. I personally don’t think it’s the best way to experience this story, especially for the first time. However, I do think that it is worth reading for fans. Because of it’s differences, it does have it’s own personality and interpretation of the original story, and there is also bonuses content that are quite interesting to look at, illustrations, Omake and other stuff.

This is technically the first official depiction of Mami and Kyoko fighting.

https://preview.redd.it/ge64akqil14e1.jpg?width=1090&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90037eb3fdd99b98e86a125b0301699f8d3eb0b2

So now, i can inaugurate this « Ultimate PMMM manga tier list » with this first entrie :

https://preview.redd.it/6tc7n7iml14e1.png?width=1140&format=png&auto=webp&s=4e80f38120827f22f71711ac80b61bd3923b23b7

And you, have you read this manga ; what did you think about it? Do you, like Hanokage, want Homura to abuse you ? Do you also want to make bombs using anti-Japanese imperialism literature ?

Next : Mahou Shoujo Madoka★Magica Sinsoukanzenhan ( the new complete edition )

2 years ago, i made a post on this reddit to advertise the project for making a sequel to the grief syndrome game.

The goal of the project was to add new character classes relevant to the magia record anime to the game, and if successful; potentially also new maps and bosses.

This project was originally cancelled after not very much development due to a lack of coders interested in it, but looking back on the post… I don’t think it failed to garner attention. I would like to give this community a second chance to find us some coders who can help me build this project and see it to completion.

If you are a coder, please reach out. This game was built on spaghetti code, and while the game is fairly small in size… The gameplay is good enough to warrant some level of modding support. Furthermore, there is/was a small community of chinese modders who managed to do some fairly cool things with the game that can act as proof we aren’t taking up an impossible hike.

Original post: https://www.reddit.com/r/MadokaMagica/s/wUaSilAt7x

If your wondering this is the trailer https://youtu.be/xRq01091Fl4?si=uFt6nMvt8XUabDfG

(ヽ´ω`) https://x.com/mzoatf105/status/1862662246649778643?s=46

We all know that Sakura's spear can turn into a whip chain. But there also exists a second design idea that I think most are still aware of, with Kyoko's spear being simply able to bend and extend at will without having to turn into chains.

I used to think, a few years ago, that it was exclusive to the manga, but I then saw that in the manga, both forms were used. And same thing in the anime.

chain

whip

https://preview.redd.it/6cb2hco98x3e1.png?width=1366&format=png&auto=webp&s=2caa2fc70aa48e1e21a5bbeb1f68dc57255ab745

https://preview.redd.it/mfms4b0b8x3e1.png?width=1366&format=png&auto=webp&s=aeeeaa6d39c3b1d6b5259517efe0f5f79bab9015

So I ended up thinking at the time that this idea was simply a previous idea for Kyoko's design and was eventually scraped but still somewhat made it into the anime in a few frames and wasn't changed because of the production.

But more recently, I read the 10th anniversary new edition of the manga ( a new edition totally redrawn and more accurate to the anime overall ) and to my surprise, we can also catch a glimpse of the whip spear in a page.

https://preview.redd.it/pwncqavt9x3e1.jpg?width=1354&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=51a04d41a93fae72ade99c06d7e80abe7744fe32

I made me think about it a bit more, and I realized that the version of the anime I'm watching is the Blu-ray, so basically, a corrected version. So if this spear was a mistake, it would have been probably corrected. To be sure, I also looked at the movie version, movie 1 the beginning. And there is no change in this scene from the anime in the movie. So the possibility of this being a mistake is quite low.

However, I think it's interesting to notice that in the new manga edition and the anime, The spear appears in that form only in that specific small sequence where Kyoko appears in front of Sayaka for the first time, and that it's the first time that we see her spear. So maybe it's just a way to not reveal directly the hidden nature of her weapon ( but I'm honestly not satisfied with this explanation ).

Sooo, does anyone have an answer or another guess?

Is it just for the style ?

An early design that somewhat made it into the anime, and they never care to change it?

Something done voluntary?

Or something else that I haven't thought about ?

Am I just thinking too much about something stupid ?

Please post anything you feel like posting here, it's the Free Discussion thread after all! If you've got something you want to discuss all you've got to do is say so! It can relate to anything and everything, from Madoka to fitness and anything in between!

Genuine question

Would that be somthing you'd read. I'm not saying I'm gonna make one but I'm curious if that would be intresting to others