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A subreddit devoted to High-School Lincoln Douglas Debate.

A subreddit devoted to High-School Lincoln Douglas Debate.

Important Links:

National Forensics League website

Introduction to LD Debate

Related subreddits:

/r/debate

/r/policydebate

/r/DebateTrade

/r/speechanddebate

Resources for the debate community (More coming soon):

Debate Drills

NSD Update

Judge Philosophies

Fedorasean's guide to research

HS LD Wiki

VBriefly Videos

Tournament listings (Calendar coming soon):

Tabroom

Joy of Tournaments

Speechwire

Bid Tournament Logistical Information

Rules (Hover over for details)

Don't be rude

  • We're all people, don't treat others poorly because you think that util is better than deont, and they disagree.

  • If you think there's an issue, tell a moderator. They'll deal with it.

LD Dropbox

  • If you need access, please just click "message the moderators", which appears right next to the moderator list, and include your email.

  • Don't make a post about it, because the post will be removed.

  • If you send in a request to be added, please be patient. Us mods have lives and prep to do as well, and we might not get to it within the first day or two.

Trading prep

  • If you want to trade cases, briefs, or prep, please make all posts with regards to that in /r/DebateTrade, not here.

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capital flight for aff

I know Capital Flight is for the neg side but how is everyone arguing against this for the AFF? I'm having trouble countering that arugement

3 Comments
2024/11/06
19:33 UTC

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Practice round for NatCircuit in Friday

Basically what the title says. Want to get a progressive round in before a tournament I have Friday. Just DM me.

0 Comments
2024/11/06
03:44 UTC

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Any thoughts on the wealth tax topic, I feel like there's no neg args besides the Econ DA

9 Comments
2024/11/06
00:08 UTC

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How Many Cards Should I Have In My Case?

My first LD tournament is coming up, and I'm relatively clueless to all of it. Should I have the same amount of cards as in a policy case, or if not, how much?

2 Comments
2024/11/04
22:08 UTC

1

Values for this month topic

What are some good values for this month's topic? AFF and NEG?

3 Comments
2024/11/04
21:06 UTC

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What is that one philosophy that basically says that any government is morally responsible for protecting the oppressed?

I’ve definitely read about this before but I can’t remember what it was called lol.

4 Comments
2024/11/04
04:43 UTC

2

Can someone explain Killjoy K

had it read at FBK. Won with my Disad and a RotB framing but tbh, had no idea what the K was and only found a card to counter it because of logos lol.

My understanding is it’s some kind of debate theory interp that we should “kill the joy” of debate. Any comprehensive guides for and against it?

1 Comment
2024/11/04
04:02 UTC

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policy camp?

im a sophomore looking to be absolutely cracked in every form of LD next year and not sure what to do. is it worth it to go to a policy camp instead of NSD minnesota? if so which one?

0 Comments
2024/11/03
18:52 UTC

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Dont understand Cap K in debate

For the november/december topic The united states ought to adopt a wealth tax, I wanna try something new like running a Cap K, I've heard those throw your opponents off and are good, but I don't quite understand how to make one, I get that it in a sense it challenges the underlying assumption of the resolution, but how exactly would that be transformed into a case?

9 Comments
2024/11/02
22:39 UTC

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what is a good no util FW for trad for the nov dec topic

im lwk struggling with finding something. i HATE util, anyone got any ideas?

3 Comments
2024/11/02
16:28 UTC

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Nov-Dec Wealth Taxes AT File Freely Available

A new AT File has been released for the new topic. It is linked here. Enjoy.

2 Comments
2024/10/31
03:51 UTC

4

norms on disclosure

Do I have to disclose *everything* I read, or just case? I may have misunderstood, but I heard some arguments that theory cannot be read if it is not disclosed. Doesn't that just defeat the point of theory? If the other debater runs something abusive, are you not able to run a theory you didn't disclose to them? How are you supposed to confront abuse in round if you can't run anything? Or does this only count for the constructives?

4 Comments
2024/10/30
21:59 UTC

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3 days to prep a case (novice trying out varsity)

Hey y'all! I'm a novice debater who's trying out varsity this weekend and fully expect to get crushed, especially considering I have less than three days to prep both cases for the wealth tax topic + Kritiks, CPs, blocks, and maybe a couple generics. What are your strategies for efficient and comprehensive research? Any tips for surviving varsity?

4 Comments
2024/10/30
03:18 UTC

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Is there a normalized way to create a ‘third level’ of articulation in FW?

I wanted to further clarify and define my value on the Nov/Dec with another value (not like how a sub criterion would be used). I know there are ways of doing it implicitly, I just wanted to see if there was specific terminology. Thanks!!! :)

10 Comments
2024/10/28
20:11 UTC

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LD Nov/Dec Shared Prep Folder

The Unified Prep League is inviting you to our LD Nov-Dec shared prep folder. To join please send in full cases, blocks, theory or cut evidence. The standard of prep accepted is going to be high OR your reason to not have any has to be good. The purpose of the folder is to give debaters, especially from small schools the ability to become more competitive on all circuits both local and national while also allowing everyone to have access to more resources! https://forms.gle/1W1r5hj9bddvhEPj7

If you're submitting blocks: title it as "(AT/A2) (the argument it answers) (the side you would be when using it, put this in parenthesis)"

If you're submitting cases: title it as "(1AC/NC) (LAY/TRAD/PROG) (content in the case/whole-res)"

If you're submitting theory: title it as "THEORY (the side you would be when using it, put this parenthesis)"

If you’re submitting Cards/Evidence: Make sure everything is high quality and properly cited. Please title it (AFF/NEG) (Content of the evidence)

Note that we will likely do the next round of admissions on Wednesday!

3 Comments
2024/10/28
03:54 UTC

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Most Unique Arguments

What are some of the most crazy & unique arguments y'all have found on wealth tax that actually make sense (AFF & NEG)

5 Comments
2024/10/27
23:50 UTC

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democracy as a value, maximizing personal liberty as a criterion?

Hey guys, I'm usually a copy paste util w/ maximizing societal welfare debater. I'm considering stepping outside of my comfort zone, but I'm not certain that I'm using vc properly. Would democracy and maximizing personal liberty work as a vc?

7 Comments
2024/10/27
21:02 UTC

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FCK THE AMERICAN TAX CODES

I was researching Elizabeth Warren's proposal for a wealth tax in the US and references certain tax codes. I think "Oh it would be nice to know about those. I should look those up." MY BAD apparently those tax codes reference like 70 other codes that I would have to research. So if someone reads this who had an INFINITE amount of time to research this lemme know what those are I believe it was 410 and 510.

0 Comments
2024/10/27
21:02 UTC

2

Kantianism cards

Hey, I’m a novice debater so I’m not great at research quite yet. Does anyone have any good cards for kantianism or libertarianism? Also any good meta ethics?

1 Comment
2024/10/27
17:47 UTC

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Sexism in debate (specifically LD)

Hi all, I was wondering: Is sexism still an issue within y'all's circuits? The circuit I judge in (Southeast) is no better than when I was in high school, in fact, the sexism is getting worse. Last year in a final round, a leading female competitor got called out for being a "spicy woman" and another got called out for wearing pants rather than a skirt to debate in.

When I was in debate (approximately a decade ago), I noticed my male competitors were given different speaker points than me, and also vastly different feedback from me. If a male got heated in round he was "passionate about the subject" while if a female got heated she was told to "calm down." I went out to dinner with a fellow judge and we both agreed that the sexism is getting worse. I'm doing my best to be supportive of female efforts within debate, but is there anything that others are doing to help that could help to even the playing field for female debaters?

6 Comments
2024/10/27
03:47 UTC

6

Reading Baudrillard off paper?

Is there a reason why Baudy rounds I have seen online, the Aff seems to really commonly be delivered off paper?

4 Comments
2024/10/26
07:53 UTC

0

Capitalism Kritik?

Im thinking about running a neg Capitlaism K for this months topic of "The US ought to adopt a wealth tax". I have a novice nats tournament next week, and I need help creating this... I need some advice on how to do this if possible and any suggestions

9 Comments
2024/10/25
16:52 UTC

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aff topicality

im essentially using the funds from a wealth tax in my aff to fund problems that can be solved/need funding with money. this still would affirm the res, as im showing the wealth tax is a good idea by using the money from it for different things (space elevators, biodiversity, etc etc) ive gotten an objection to it but never really got to a consensus. any help is appreciated

8 Comments
2024/10/25
00:20 UTC

3

Weighing probability vs magnitude

I'm new to LD debate and have my first competition coming up really quickly. During a mock debate, my opponent ran that structural violence collapsed mine because, although the magnitude was really big (extinction), there was a small chance of it happening. Structural and slow violence have a 100 percent probability so she claimed it's more important. How would I argue against this? I have cards saying that util is the most correct framework (parfit 84, gruzalski 86, pummer 15) but I don't think it'd be good to just go back and forth on it especially since those are kind of just opinions.

3 Comments
2024/10/24
03:24 UTC

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New LD question

I just joined my school's debate club as a freshman and we just started preparation and event picking for the online UCLA nsda tournament. I was thinking of doing lincoln douglas and I have almost no debate experience. One of my friends who has done debate said that Lincoln Douglas is too hard for someone new and I shouldn't do it. Is he right or should I just give it a shot.

5 Comments
2024/10/23
20:38 UTC

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LD coaching/advice

Hi everyone, New LD debater here. I’m a sophomore who did PF in my freshman year, but I moved schools so now I don’t have a partner, which is why I’m doing LD. My new school doesn’t really have a competitive speech and debate environment (there is a club but no coach and there isn’t a lot of interest). Is there anyone willing to offer paid private coaching like reviewing my case files and teaching me theory/anything in LD that isn’t really as prominent in PF. Im also new to finding a coach on my own so please correct any inaccurate expectations. Thanks everyone!

4 Comments
2024/10/22
16:55 UTC

3

New Block Wizard HTML Help

Hi Guys, about a year ago, I developed an AI block tool called the block wizard that would auto block arguments with a low hallucination rate:

The OpenAI API changed and I’ve developed new code to match it, along with some other cool tools like a case analyzer and some surprises. The main problem is I can’t code webpages, I would love to get in contact with someone who could.

Example:

https://youtu.be/gwp7xElzr08?si=xdRlIKLUUPPFHiS6

3 Comments
2024/10/22
13:48 UTC

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how can i manage time better in the 2ar?

I've done 2 LD tournaments so far, both this month. I feel like the 2ar's 3-minute speech is really hard for me to cover all the bases that the NR mentions since they get 6 minutes speaking time. I have a quick overview of reasons why the ballot is for the Aff, but after that I'm not sure what to say. So far, I feel like my time management has been pretty bad. My most recent tournament was a league/lay tournament, so I couldn't spread, and my opponent read three advantages that all had a lot on each of them. I took too much time answering his case and ran out of time to go on my case. In my other tournament, which was circuit, my opponents who ran more than 3 off made it hard for me to answer in the 2ar. Any advice on how I should handle this?

3 Comments
2024/10/21
04:54 UTC

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switching from pf to ld

was thinking about switching from pf to ld for nov/dec because of a conflict with my partner, is their any big differences I should know before committing to the change?

8 Comments
2024/10/21
02:15 UTC

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a couple of questions :O

hi, novice ld debator here :D just have some questions, any help is appreciated!

  1. is there a difference between voting issues and crystallization?
    • if there isn't, which would i say in the off time roadmap?
  2. if the opponent doesn't have an impact, can i still weigh mine?
  3. can i argue that they don't solve their fw using my case? (ex. negative fw is structural violence, but i run negating leads to authoritarianism)
  4. do you weigh frameworks in the NC, or just argue that their fw is bad?
  5. if my opponent doesn't respond to my fw arguments, would i automatically win?
    • if i do win on framework, how do i tell the judge that i won and that their case is irrelevant?
  6. if opponent doesn't respond to important arguments(like a whole contention) - can i say they conceded those points, so they agree, which means vote for me?
  7. if i want to drop a whole contention, how would i tell my judge?
  8. if i don't know a question in CX, could i say something like "i don't know" and then properly answer it in my rebuttal speech?
2 Comments
2024/10/20
22:08 UTC

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