Had no clue this was orchestral. Magnificent.

I decided to watch this show after seeing a YouTube short of David reading someone’s mind and getting them out of a bad legal deal. I thought it would be like the show suits except where Mike Ross inherited powers.

I binged season one and excused the… weirdness by telling myself that after he defeats the fat demon guy, he’ll go after corporate America. I enjoyed the first season and was ready for season two.

I watched the first episode of the second season and have zero idea what is going on. Why is there so much exposition? What does the chapter 3 delusions scene mean? What is with the teeth chattering?? Where do the moustache girls come from??? And the dance scene?

And I have questions about season 1 but I’m not sure if these are unanswered in the timeline or if I missed it. Who is Lenny? Is it actually a male friend or David’s imagination? If it’s his imagination was she in the hospital? Is the shadow king the fat demon guy? Is it related to the angriest kid? And was his dog King a good or bad being? Is music bad or good and what about dancing.

I’ve looked around the subreddit and YouTube and a lot of people say it’s super confusing and hard to decipher. Is it worth finishing? I understand that this is a community of fans so the opinions will be biased but I still think it’s a fair question. I like weird and surreal entertainment with lore but I’d rather understand what’s going on.

I just finished my 3rd or so rewatch and here's my main character power rankings if you will.

1. David - Omega level character
2. Lenny - Was almost #1 for me, I love that bitch
3. Shadow King - The ultimate badass
4. Oliver - What's not to love?
5. Cary - Love this dork he's great
6. Clark - This suit was also phenomenal
7. Ptonomy - I liked him and was dissapointed when they essentially killed him off
8. Kerry - Mixed feelings, liked the actress but her character seemed boring and carried by Cary
9. Melanie - I liked Melanie in season 1 but I feel like they destroyed her character season 2 onward
10. Sidney - I hate her, even before she betrayed David she was a trash character

Feel free to critique or offer your rankings

I know there's a lot of people who hate Syd and even some people who hate David so I wanted to make this post to open the discussion. I'm gonna bullet the main topics and then I'll see yall in the astral plane for a psychic tango (I'll be in the comments fighting for my life)

1. David didn't rape Syd
2. Syd only saw him as evil because she was being mind manipulated and she at least knew for sure that David ending the world wasn't a lie
3. Syd never stopped loving David at any point
4. David is a good bf to Syd even tho he makes mistakes

Just an FYI in case any of y’all didn’t know. But (in the US) the show is in 4K UHD on Disney+ / Hulu.

I swear it's almost note to note the same. I just can't place where it's from in the show. It was a song played at a significant part of the show, I just can't remember.

It's the lost forest music in the legend of Zelda echoes of wisdom. Please someone tell me I'm not insane

Am I the only one who found it hilarious in Season 1 Chapter 4, when Kerry is fantasizing about fighting ninjas n helicopters n shit, and then a couple of scenes later, she gets the shit kicked outta her by 4 faceless Division 3 flunkies? 🤣

Though it's highly unlikely this will reach her, I'd like to offer condolences for Aubrey Plaza on the loss of her husband.
If any comforting vibes happen to get to her, that's good: [sends sympathy, warmth, and care her way].

And, on a more tangible note, the same goes to anyone in this group dealing with grief and loss.
My condolences to all who need it. Here's a virtual hug for anyone in need of one: [hugs]

You're not alone. It might feel like that, but you aren't.

In season 1 where I'm currently at, Syd states she has antisocial personality disorder which is the clinical term for a sociopath. That however appears to be so misguided. I have read a lot about personality disorders especially aspd and while I'm not an expert, experts have said that sociopaths have no empathy. The only thing that would suggest a behavior similar with a sociopath is what she did with her mother's boyfriend at 16. Anything else tho doesn't track with any behavior a sociopath would have. She has plenty of empathy, she feels bad about people, genuinely cares, can differentiate wrong from right, doesn't manipulate to get her way, can love and make emotional connections and the most important she puts others before herself and sacrifices her self interest for others. That is something no sociopath would do. I think they confused aspd with another disorder that has to do with people not liking to be touched cause aspd has nothing to do with that. I think it's the writters being too lazy to hire a psychiatrist or something cause it makes no sense to me. I am open to other opinions. If anyone has an explanation I would love to talk about it cause right now I'm VERY confused... I could be wrong but if I am can someone explain why?

(Don't spoil past season 1 please)

maybe I'm missing something but I still don't get why that story and doll and just general thing exists...

was it one of farouks tricks/David's hallucinations? just confused because we see angry boy in David's crib as the house is deteriorating from the time goblins. I thought that was before farouk got into David so how could have the doll been a hallucination?

and if it's not, why read your kid such a thing, and why was it never explained why they read it to him or even introduced it to him. shit even I'm scared of that thing now.

idk, it kinda looks like Hitler but idk if that the point or not.

You can see it in season 3 I think. Did they ever explain why? It’s not super important/prominent, but I’m just wondering if I missed something

Generally speaking.... when I start a series I watch the whole thing. I can count on one hand how many times i stopped watching a show before it ended.

That said. with Season 2 Episode 7 i am officially done. I have been putting off watching another episode for the last several now. everytime go to watch the next one, i find a reason not to.

I got about 3/4 thru ep 7. this is some nonsense about multiple time lines and different versions of David.

Season 1 was watchable. despite it's many flaws. But this...... I'm sorry to rant like this, i know this is a fan portal.

I really wish they would have worked on character development, but they didn't . most of the characters were completely unlikeable and/or unconvincing in their roles. I know it has been mentioned several times on here but the whole Carry as some kind of fighter. it is literally laugh out loud bad. not sure if it is the actress herself, the super unconvincing scenes, or just poor writing.

anyway, those who stuck it out, i hope you enjoy(ed) it.

I get that David is a killer but so is devision 3 and the rest of the mutants like when the y rescue David that one guy is just flinging soldiers miles into the horizon and they literally burn people alive but David going to save his sister he crossed a line? Right like syd is appalled with David wich understandably right like he messed with her mind and tortured Oliver but foruk and division 3 has done those things to like they want to kill David because he might end the world for all they know hunting him down like this is how he becomes a killer. I know I already said this but like foruk has done some awful shit like what he did to marry Lenny the list goes on and takes joy in all of it but he's fine to work with and can live but David must die?

So I'm currently watching Legion season three and I don't understand why the whole gang wants David dead. Sure, Syd has reasons to be mad at him but the rest? They don't really hear David out during his trial and don't give him a chance to prove himself. And the beginning of season three for me is basically David trying to undo his mistakes and the other ones trying to kill him the whole time.

Did I miss some important scenes or am I just not seeing the whole picture??

Main character (I'm bad at names and haven't slept) dude that has the female/younger alter. When they are in the mental place and Aubrey Plaza? Is the therapist...what is the relationship supposed to be between those two?

His inner child? His actual child? Niece? They seem to be actual people in there, or are being lead to think they are and I'm just confused.

Also, who is the guy with the drool? I know he's been in the other episodes, remember him driving. But does he have an alter/split?

Sorry I dozed on some of the prior episodes but too into it to start over now.

Do you think the creator(s?) of the show like Pink Floyd? I get the impression they may like Pink Floyd. Not entirely sure though. But I think they like Pink Floyd.

I’m on chapter 14 on my first watch of legion and I was wondering what was the significance of the episode? I just finished it and my take was that no matter what his sister was always there for him and in this universe her dying means that he feels like he failed her. I was wondering if I am at least a bit close but I was also wondering if anyone else had other takes? Otherwise amazing episode and very interesting to see.

In S1E6, Syd finds a book in the Clockworks dream on a couch next to Cary, reading it later while David is painting. I think the title is "A Cosmic Unfolding" but I'm not sure. Is there a book that references what she said? From the wiki...

She then finds a book on couch about alternate realities, dream states, and memory palaces.

I'm admittedly a little late to the game here but I just finished the series.

Did anyone else have a very hard time identifying with Syd after she turned against David? She loves this guy and after ten minutes looking through magic TV pools with a Farouk-infested Melanie she does a complete 180 because... he left her to go do something very important (after he gives her a psychic compass to find him wherever he is)?! WTF?

David was assumed to be clinically schizophrenic, only to discover that he was, in fact, psychically schizophrenic (Shadow King, etc.)

just watched episode one is it really all this strange or is this the strangest episode (i kind of hope it’s all this way)

I can't find my blu-ray of season 1, but the digital version I'm watching censors stuff in season 1, which I don't remember happening on the blu-ray (I never watched season 1 live). Is this like The Magicians, where they aired a censored version and then released the uncensored or is my brain just broken?

I'm streaming on Vudu/Fandango at home/ whatever the fuck they call it now

TLDR: A role switch in the always blue question makes us see how david went from being manipulated to becoming the manipulator.

This contains heavy spoilers for Legion btw.

I just feel like with David's memories being affected by Farouk - we know that nothing was reliable in his mind- But nothing really is even in normal people. I've been studying half a semester of psychology and up until now, David has been such a great thing for me to reference to due to how the series explores his disorders and all.

Since we know that in some ways, Lenny was never lenny - since we learn that was merely a projection from Farouk and the actual lenny not being lenny but actually benny- therefore I can say that the ones who are in clarity when this question is asked is the villain.

First, Farouk as lenny got asked "Was it always blue" when it came to those drugs. To which the figure who was the manipulator responded "Its always blue"
Now, we cue season 3, and Lenny who was being kind of manipulated by david is the one who asks this question to david - who responds in the exact same way.. Thus, showing how David had really become like the very villain he had hated and continued hating.
I feel like the writing in the show was immaculate..

now I need to rewatch it bro.

I dont know if this has already been answered, but because they are currently in the astral plane at the time of the timeline reset, were they safe and still together? I’d assume because time and space is null and void within the plane that they’d continue to remain together despite everyone else probably never meeting in the new timeline. Or did things go back to Oliver and Melanie being together pre-summerland if they were together before David’s possession? I just love them so much I want to believe they’re still together at the end of it all