/r/IrishCitizenship

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Welcome to our community dedicated to discussing the process of obtaining Irish citizenship, whether via descent or naturalisation.

Whether you have questions about eligibility requirements, timelines, or any other aspect of the citizenship application process, our forum is a place for you to share your experiences and learn from others.


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Made mistake on FBR, How do I change?

Hi all.
Ive made a small typo on my FBR, I've just paid and downloaded the PDF and only spotted it afterwards.
I can edit the PDF on my PC, (I've literally just downloaded it), is this acceptable or do I need to contact the FBR to let them know?
Thank you.

3 Comments
2024/11/01
07:28 UTC

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FBR Help

So have tricky FBR situation wanted to ask this group for a little help. My grandfather on mom’s side was born in Ireland great grandfather was a sailor from Pakistan/ India at that time origin. I was able to get his Irish birth certificate. Grandfather returned to Pakistan and married my grandmother and my mom was born in Pakistan. My parents then migrated to the United States where currently all my siblings and I are US citizens. I was born in Pakistan however, my siblings born in USA. My mom passed away in 2012. Can I apply for FBR? Will docs from US/pakistan be accepted?

2 Comments
2024/11/01
03:02 UTC

2

Help with proof of residence

Hi all. I’ve just received the response to my application and they’re requesting me to add additional documents for proof of residence.

During my initial application I gave them my employment detail summary and my dad’s electricity bills (including his passport and birth certificate) as I don’t have bills, mortgages or rent on my name.

They’re now asking me to give them bank statements and rent/tenancy agreement for the required year, and again, I have no rent or mortgages on my name.

What do I do??

11 Comments
2024/10/31
17:48 UTC

1

Travel after applying for Irish citizenship by naturalisation? (EU Citizen)

Hi all,

I was wondering if there would be any implication to my application if after applying for the citizenship by naturalisation, I would travel for a period of time?

I am planning to take a career break and travel for 2-3 months.

Thank you!

4 Comments
2024/10/31
16:28 UTC

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So frustrating - Need to submit Witness Form a third time

Applying from USA. First application, the police officer who signed for me as a witness didn't answer when they called him.

Second time now, they replied via email with this: "The Witness Form you submitted for your online application is not acceptable as when we contacted the person who signed the form on your behalf they could not verify that they did indeed sign it. Please submit your details and generate a new Witness Form online through the link below. In addition, we require additional documentation to complete processing your passport application. Photo ID - We cannot accept the copy of your US driving licence as it was certified by the same person who signed your witness form, which is now void. Please resubmit."

The second time, I used a Notary who said they would verify when they'd call. When I asked in the webchat to call the Notary again, they said no I have to resubmit. Ugh!!!

6 Comments
2024/10/31
15:54 UTC

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Passport with FBR - How Hard?

So, I’m in the US and used a lawyer here to get both daughters through the FBR process.

We just heard back - and both were approved.

Just wondering if I need the lawyer for the passport process - is it easier getting through the passport process with the FBR vs proving your citizenship?

Thanks

10 Comments
2024/10/30
22:33 UTC

6

Application received super quick!

I sent my documents from within Ireland as I wanted to cut out as many middle-men as possible, so that might explain the speed but I’m still shocked!

27/10/24 - Online application submitted and paid for 28/10/24 - Flew to Ireland from UK, but it was a bank holiday so I couldn’t get to the post office 29/10/24 - Sent my documents via express An Post at about 9:30 when the office opened 30/10/24 - Email confirmation of application received at 12:30! Barely 24 hours later!

Just wanted to share, hopefully a sign of a quick processing 🤞😁

27 Comments
2024/10/30
22:09 UTC

1

Emergency FBR application

Does anyone have any knowledge/info about an emergency or urgent FBR process? I've heard it's a thing but can't find much info online. How quick is it? Who can use it? How quickly do the documents get sent back? Etc

Any help much appreciated!

12 Comments
2024/10/30
21:06 UTC

3

Citizenship ceremony proof of identity

Hi, I got my approval letter for citizenship and paid the €950 fee. So now just waiting for an invitation to the citizenship ceremony. But I'm just wondering what do we have to bring with us on the day as proof of identity. I read that it can be passport or driving license. Would an Irish learners permit do? Or does it have to be a full Irish licence? And is there anything else that has to be brought on the day. Thanks

2 Comments
2024/10/30
20:58 UTC

0

what to do about adoption

I’m wondering if anyone can help, my mum was born to a UK citizen but adopted by an Irish citizen (my nan) when she fills out these details does she include the information on her birth certificate from when she was born or from when she was adopted? thanks!

7 Comments
2024/10/30
19:19 UTC

2

Anyone using the Immigration Portal?

I noticed that there was a movement in my application as shown by the last ‘modified’ date which was recent. I’m sure this was a process in the background as the last update I got from them was the payment confirmation certification fee payment of €950 early this month.

Has anyone who’s on application decision stage (pending ceremony and certification) had their last modified date different from the last email/post correspondence from immigration?

Keeping my fingers crossed for December ceremony.

2 Comments
2024/10/30
18:16 UTC

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Children – Age and Eligibility Clarification

Hello, helpful people: this sub has been so useful getting applications together. I have a clarification I'm trying to resolve re children.

  • I am an Irish citizen because my mother is an Ireland-born Irish citizen and passport holder. (I am applying for but have not yet received my Irish passport).
  • My two children (10 and 6) will be eligible for an Irish passport because their grandmother (my mother), is an Ireland-born Irish citizen.
  • I can't apply for Irish passports for my children – this would have top have happened before they were born.
  • My children can apply for Irish passports once they turn 18 (via the Irish grandmother route).

Is this correct? It makes sense but also seems a bit odd that they have to wait when we know they meet / will meet the eligibility requirements. Thanks!

10 Comments
2024/10/30
16:32 UTC

1

Sense check on documents required

Hi,

I've read the Wiki and I'm just trying to make sure I'm collating all of the correct documents for the foreign birth register application.

My grandpa (now deceased) was born in Ireland. He was married to my grandmother when my mother was born in England. Following my grandmothers death in the 1990's, he remarried.

My mother (now deceased) was married to my father when I was born in the 1980's. She took his name however they divorced and she returned to her maiden name. She did not remarry, therefore her death certificate is in her maiden name.

So I am trying to confirm a couple of things:

  • For my grandpa, as his death certificate has his second wife's name on it, do I need to provide their marriage certificate as well as the marriage certificate for his first marriage to my grandmother?
  • do I also need to provide his death certificate?
  • For my mum, do I need to provide the marriage certificate and evidence of divorce from my dad?

I have to order most of the documents so just trying to make sure I cover all bases.

Thank you!

3 Comments
2024/10/30
15:30 UTC

2

US Consular Report of Birth Abroad vs a normal birth certificate

I posted about this yesterday on r/dualcitizenshipnerds and got some conflicting answers.

I was born in Germany to American parents and have a US Consular Report of Birth Abroad (CRBA); I have the original copy and just ordered a second copy that might take up to 4 months to get. I have a German birth certificate somewhere, but my mom can't find her copy so I might need to go through the hassle of trying to get a copy from the Standesamt of my birth city.

My question is, would the FBR people accept just my CRBA? Or would I need to send them the German one instead? I figure the best thing to do would be to send both just in case, but I'm also a lazy bones and would rather avoid having to navigate German bureaucracy.

Thanks for any help!

7 Comments
2024/10/30
13:47 UTC

1

Foreign births registered applying for first passport

Is there an alternative to sending your current passport (only have a UK one currently) as I work offshore and need it for work.

2 Comments
2024/10/30
13:39 UTC

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Will I have to send my original passport away for 9 months to complete the foreign births registry?

As the question states. I’ve read that the foreign births registry takes up to 9 months to process everything. Just wondering if I’ll have to prepare for 9 months without a passport and, thus, no foreign travel in that time?

6 Comments
2024/10/30
13:19 UTC

3

Naturalisation

Hi has anyone got there citizenship this way

8 Comments
2024/10/30
13:19 UTC

1

Question about witness..."chartered" engineer?

I have a friend who is a licensed engineer here in the states...can I use him as my witness? is "chartered" an Irish term for licensed or is it a different designation? ty....for my passport application

4 Comments
2024/10/30
12:49 UTC

1

Additional documents request - am I supposed to reply by email or not?

I submitted my application in January and just today had an email requesting additional documents as they said my witness hadn't confirmed that the passport & driving license scans were a true copy of the original. It said on that email "*You may reply by return email and attach the requested items.". I'll put the full email text at the bottom.

So I had the documents signed and scanned again by the witness, and replied to that email with the attachments as it clearly told me to do. But then I've had another response which seems to be saying that it's an outbound mailbox only and it looks as though I need to send them by post. I think I've done the right thing but I am pretty confused here. Here's that email in full (I've bolded the relevant bits):

Thank you for contacting the Foreign Birth Registration Unit.

This mailbox is for outbound clarification queries from the FBR Entitlement Unit ONLY.

Due to the volume of correspondence received, general queries and requests for FBR application status updates cannot be responded to.

If you have received a request to submit additional documents please submit the requested documents to continue processing your application. The onus is on the applicant to gather and submit the documents required.

Documents submitted to the FBR Unit should be sent by registered post and the postal tracking number should be retained. If the tracking number indicates your envelope has been delivered to our office then it has been received and will be processed in due course.

And here's what they said in the prior email requesting additional documents:

Dear _,

We are currently processing your application for Foreign Births Registry to obtain Irish citizenship through descent.

In order to proceed with your application, the following is required**:**

·       Please confirm your current address in full and please submit a recent utility bill, bank statement or correspondence issued by a Government department to verify same.

·       Please submit a certified photocopy of your current Passport or valid Driving Licence, the photocopy must be signed, stamped, dated and certified as a true copy of the original, by a Solicitor, a Police Officer or the same person who witnessed your application form ( _ ). A business card may be attached if no official stamp is available.

Unfortunately, the photocopies of your Passport and Driving Licence were not certified as a true copies by your witness.

·       Please also submit a certified photocopy of a current Passport or valid Driving Licence for your Father _. Again, the photocopy submitted was not certified as a true copy of the original.

*You may reply by return email and attach the requested items.

Please ensure that your Application number is clearly marked on the email

Yours sincerely,

_

FBR Entitlement Team _

What do you guys think?

1 Comment
2024/10/29
16:34 UTC

2

FBR Sending Additional Documents

Can anyone give me an estimate of how long it took for them to review your application after you were asked to send in additional documents? The document was delivered in the mail September 9 and I haven’t heard anything, so I’m just curious what other peoples timelines looked like after sending in additional docs. Thanks in advance!

13 Comments
2024/10/29
14:24 UTC

2

FBR witnesses

Hi all!

I am new to the subreddit and trying to do the FBR process. My grandfather was born in Dublin, my mother in the UK, so I going through him.

I apologise if these questions have been covered, I have looked through the wikis etc.

First - the witnesses such as doctor etc, they can be in my country of residence, right? Do I need an Irish citizen as a witness at any point? (I ask as when I have done UK or NZ passport renewals I need a citizen of that country).

Second, I understand my mum is an Irish citizen by birth, but the online form seemed to ask for the date of her entry on the FBR, and she has never done that herself.

I was filling out the online form but maybe I am better doing a paper one (I haven't found where I can download it yet though... I am finding this process tricky and am so glad I found this subreddit!)

2 Comments
2024/10/29
08:47 UTC

1

I messed up

I sent my FBR application. I sent all the required documents (birth certificates, marriage certificates etc) that links me to my maternal Irish grandmother.

However with my 4 passport photos, they were signed & dated on the back by my witness, but somehow we both forgot to add the application number. Either because we forgot or there wasn’t enough space. I know it was a silly mistake. It has me a little concerned now. How do I proceed? Do I contact the FBR, send new passport photos with the application number on the back?

Any help is much appreciated. Thank you!

7 Comments
2024/10/29
07:43 UTC

2

send actual passport or is copy ok?

Hi- Got FBR citizenship finally- sending in the info for the actual Irish Passport and reading conflicting info- can I send a certified color copy of my U.S. passport or do they need the original? thanks

6 Comments
2024/10/28
23:19 UTC

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My husband is a dual Irish/US citizen, but became a dual citizen after we married in the US. I am a US citizen. If we move to Ireland, what does this mean for me?

Hi all! Thanks for any information you can offer.

Basically, my husband and I were both born in the US. My husband recently received dual Irish citizenship.

We want to figure out the correct process for me if we decide to make the move to Ireland.

How would this affect me? Would I need a Visa? Or would I be granted citizenship based on my marriage? Something in between? I haven't been able to find a clear answer online.

24 Comments
2024/10/28
21:40 UTC

1

When to worry about lost documents

hi

I recently applied for a irish passport as my mother was born on the island of Ireland.

I sent my documents "royal mail international tracked" from UK which quotes 3-5 working days from UK to Ireland. Documents were sent on Wednesday 16 October and last info was "Item Leaving the UK" on Tuesday 22nd. There is then a message saying "There may be more information on our delivery partner's website." which links to AN Post. Their tracking info shows only "Sender/retailer has shared details of your item to An Post" on 14 October and nothing about receiving my documents or anything about delivering within Ireland.

Is this normal practice for AN Post ? If so, how long would it take the passport office to update my application to indicate the documents are received if AN Post dont bother to provide tracking ?

Just wondering how long to wait before contacting anyone or if this is standard behavior !

If there were to get lost it would be both an inconvenience as well as costly to get hold of official copies of all the certificates.

thanks

9 Comments
2024/10/28
15:58 UTC

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Complicated situation, some guidance appreciated please

Hi there,

So recently I discovered that there is significant Irish heritage in our family but also a few complications that might halt any application so before I proceed I would appreciate some guidance. The situation is as follows:

GG Parents (and all before) - Irish

Grandmother -Born in UK but not sure if registered as a foreign birth (still an Irish citizen ?)

Father - Born in UK, so according to the (A,B,C,D,E) charts his birth would have to been registered before mine HOWEVER he was separated from his mother at a very young age and did not know about her / his heritage until about 7 years after her death making it impossible to know. He could apply to register his birth now but would it be accepted and would it change the outcome of my application ?

Me - Born in the UK ( E on the charts) so I would normally qualify but only if my father had his birth registered at the time of my birth which of course could not have happened. Given that I am approaching 50 it would have been impossible for this to happen if my father had no contact with his mother from the age of about 3/4

Is there any flexibility in the system whatsoever for cases that do not fit the norm or am I wasting my time ? I am more than happy to gain the extra evidence and do whats needed if it will be a positive outcome but would rather know if I am up against it from the start.

Thanks in advance

3 Comments
2024/10/28
10:04 UTC

1

Naturalisation through parents reckon able time in Ireland

Has anyone done this and what is the waiting time like I’ve scrolled through this so much and still haven’t seen anything or even time line on naturalisation

18 Comments
2024/10/27
20:32 UTC

0

Do the five years spent as reckonable residency have to be consecutive?

Just found an article online stating "the standard residency requirement is a total of five years (1,825 days) of reckonable residence in Ireland within the nine years immediately preceding the application. Out of these five years, at least one year (365 days) must be a continuous period of residence immediately before the application is submitted. The five years do not need to be consecutive; they can be spread over the nine-year period, but the one year of continuous residence must be immediately before the application."

Is this accurate at all?

10 Comments
2024/10/27
19:24 UTC

1

Can census data defend against a missing grandparent’s marriage certificate?

I apologize that I posted this to the wrong thread before. I have all required documentation except for my grandmother’s marriage certificate. I have requested it from New York with no luck. I do have 4-5 decades of federal and NY state census data that ‘traces’ my grandmother (consistently reporting herself as Irish-born), living with her head-of-household husband and an increasing number of children (including my father). Would this work?

2 Comments
2024/10/27
18:56 UTC

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