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Time frame from Garda vetting to ceremony invitation?

Hi guys, I just completed the Garda vetting form. Can anyone tell me how long it took them to be invited to a ceremony after they completed this step?

1 Comment
2024/12/02
10:26 UTC

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Hard to get a marriage cert - can I have a copy notarised?

Hi all,

I've seen a lot of good advice on here so hoping someone can help.

I have got most of the documents I need: my birth cert, my mum's my grandad's (he was born in Ireland), his marriage cert, etc.

I will get a copy of my mum's passport page.

But the issue I am having is with my parent's marriage certificate. They were married in Australia in 1972 (I was born in NZ, they only lived in Aus for three years).

My understanding is that you don't get the doc you send back, so I was looking to order a new marriage cert to send but it seems... a lot harder than the UK and NZ documents I have sourced. My parents have to do it and provide a lot of supporting documents - many in categories they don't have as they haven't lived in Aus since '75.

So I was wondering about getting a certified copy of the certificate my mum has and having it notarised by a justice of the peace? Would that be acceptable to the Irish citizenship folks do you think? Any advice on what to do?

Thanks in advance!

6 Comments
2024/12/02
09:53 UTC

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Help needed, not sure if payment went through

Hi, I have my form saved as a PDF, I went to pay for the application and it never loaded. I pressed reload (I know I shouldn't have done this) and entered my card details again and it said I had already made a payment but the money hasn't been taken out and I didn't receive confirmation.

What do I do?

Should I start again or can I send my application?

I can't find a contact email for anyone to check.

1 Comment
2024/12/02
09:21 UTC

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Witness cant get through returning call

I have an irish passport application being processed. Witness was called and they left a message for him to call back. He tried 3 times now and each time waited 15+ minutes on hold and had to give me (he's a teacher so has lessons to run !) Are there better/best times to call back ?

thanks

Nick

2 Comments
2024/12/02
09:11 UTC

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A couple inquiries

Hello everyone! Hope you're all well. I had a few questions about getting my citizenship hopefully. So my Dad's Mom is deceased, she was not born in Ireland but she did get her citizenship while living in the US through FBR I believe. 1. My question is I as her grandson who lives in the US be eligible for citizenship? 2. Would my dad need to get his citizenship through FBR prior to me being eligible? Any help is greatly appreciated, I'm very hopeful I'll be able to get my citizenship!

5 Comments
2024/12/02
00:35 UTC

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My dad was born in Ireland

Hello all, after just coming back from my family trip to Ireland/the UK I have seriously been convinced to finally bite the bullet and get my passport/citizenship. I just would love some guidance or advice from ppl on here.

So my dad was born in Ireland (Roscommon) and lived there for about 30 years before moving to the states. He married my American mom and had 4 kids (me and my sibs). After doing research, a lot of the sources are telling me I’m already a citizen. Which confuses me bc wouldn’t I need to claim it through the FBR? Or is that only specific for Americans who have the grandparent descent? I did not realize how “rare” it was to have a parent be directly from Ireland to do this process. So the searches have been a little difficult since the majority of them are answers for the grandparent descent route.

I am considering moving there temporarily and working, but am unsure if a passport would count as proof of citizenship. Like on my CV could I just put “I have an Irish passport” ??? Is there a version of SSN or proof of citizenship over there? I’m just a little lost, do I need to still claim it through FBR or will my passport application be proof enough that I’m a dual citizen. Trying to get over asap so it’s discouraging to see the 9 month FBR process in addition to the 2-3 month passport process. Sorry if this post is all over the place - I clearly don’t know what I’m doing.

All I know is that my father was born and raised in Ireland for half of his life, so I have a much more clear cut connection and descent to Ireland.

10 Comments
2024/12/01
21:56 UTC

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Final FBR question reg witness for all documents

I have someone that is a bank account manager that is able to be my witness for signing/writing relevant info on 2 of the 4 pics of myself and the photocopy of my passport

Can I use this exact same witness which I used for my photos and passport photocopy, to also certify my parent and grandparents passport photocopies or would a complete different witness need to be used for them?

2 Comments
2024/12/01
20:36 UTC

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Identificstion paper

Hey, gonna send my papers off soon for passport I’m in the north, my dentist has signed the papers but doesn’t have a stamp or business card..they have their own see papers she can use so might go back round, receptionist said to me she had no issues and didn’t have any stamp etc…just wondering if I should post it off or wait and get that card, it’s basically their work card that she can write inside has the company name on it but it is not her OWN business card

Cheers.

4 Comments
2024/12/01
16:18 UTC

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Original Passport (UK) vs Certified Copy

Hi all

Yet another question regarding my passport application. I feel like I'm making such a meal of it! 🙄

I have recently moved to France , i have a UK passport.

My passport is my only form of photo id (no driving licence/ID card etc)

Do I send my original passport or do i send a certified copy (appointment with Notaire tomorrow to do all the certifying!)

My worry is that if i send a certified copy, do i then need to supply 2nd form of photo id, which I don't have? Or do i risk sending my original and hope that i don't need it in the meantime?!?!? (im not due to do any travelling before Easter but like i say, its my only photo ID)

I'm leaning towards just sending the original and hoping for the best!

Thanks so much !

6 Comments
2024/12/01
12:08 UTC

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FBR Application CN22, Document Certification & Royal Mail question

Hey everyone! I'm working through the FBR application process (eligible through my Irish-born grandparent) and feeling a bit nervous about getting everything right.

From what I've read here, if you're shipping from the UK to Dublin, it’s best to use Royal Mail’s International Tracked and Signed service and fill out a CN22 form. I understand the form needs to be detailed, e.g., "Documents intended for a citizenship application inside a single plastic presentation folder, including 3x original birth certificates," etc

I have a few questions:

  1. For the CN22 form: Did you list the weights of each item individually (e.g., 3x passports = 100g), or just provide the total weight of all documents combined?
  2. Packaging: Has anyone used those plastic presentation folders with multiple plastic wallets inside? Would sending documents in this format cause any issues? (see example)

Document certification: Did anyone use the Royal Mail Document Certification Service? I’m considering it for my grandparent’s and parent’s passport photocopies (as recommended on the Ireland.ie citizenship site under the “Documentation Required” tab) it states:

"

A certified document is one that has been signed and dated by a recognised person or organisation as a true copy or translation of the original. The following may qualify to make a certified copy of your document:

  • Post Office Service

"
3. Do Royal Mail under the doc certification service follow the required certification format, i.e.,'Certified to be a true copy of the orignal seen by me, [date/sign/name under signature] [occupation/address/telephone no], [stamp] on the copies?

  • If the Post Office doesn’t include these details, would it be acceptable to have the same witness who certified MY documents also certify the passport copies of my parent/grandparents, or would that not meet the requirements?

https://preview.redd.it/wwnv0j6kk74e1.png?width=1498&format=png&auto=webp&s=7927d98249b74fdf63d8172a587c4fcb48f095f5

Thank you for any answers, sorry for the long post!

6 Comments
2024/12/01
09:46 UTC

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Opinions sought.

Is it harder to get your FBR or passport? I understand the hardest part of the passport is getting your witness to answer the phone but aside from that which process is easier?

9 Comments
2024/12/01
02:13 UTC

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For the vetting, does the Garda really consult other countries (previous residencies) for background check ?

Not sure. For non-EU, does the Garda contact ministries of interior or embassies to have backgrounds checked ?

8 Comments
2024/11/30
22:44 UTC

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Proof of residence

Hi all,

Finishing up my application, for proof of residence I was going to use a Bank of America statement, and a Capital One credit card statement (I am currently living with my mom trying to buy a house, so all of the utilities and such are in her name and I just pay her cash for rent so no rent contract). Can I just print out the statements from my online account for both the Bank and the CC, or do I have to get like, an "official" one? Would obviously be much easier to just print them out at home, but I could also go to their branch locations and get printed copies, but I assume those are the same anyway?

Also, my BoA statement has my account number on it. Can I black that out?

3 Comments
2024/11/30
17:45 UTC

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Am I eligible for an FBR?

My mother obtained her Irish citizenship through her grandparents. She started her application a year before I was born but received her official citizenship documents after I was born. Would I still be eligible?

7 Comments
2024/11/30
17:21 UTC

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In-person Application

Applying for citizenship based on an Irish grandparent and wondering if an in -person submittal might expedite the anticipated 9 month wait for on-line submittal. I’ve heard elsewhere that you might be able to get it done in a week if you’re able to be there in person. Thanks for any insights!

11 Comments
2024/11/30
13:58 UTC

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I have applied 3 weeks ago. What should I expect next?

I am not sure of the process. Will they contact me? And how? And when?

4 Comments
2024/11/30
04:34 UTC

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1st time passport applicant. Declaring the first nationality passport as lost

We want to travel and our kid original passport is with the Irish passport office for his first passport with an FBR Certificate ,

We wonder if there is a real impact about applying for another passport for the kid.

In order to travel in the meantime .

Thank you

8 Comments
2024/11/30
01:47 UTC

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Irish citizenship through ancestry

Truly just a shot in the dark with this one!

My great grandmother was born in Ireland. Which I know means that I can’t get citizenship. But is there any chance my dad can apply for Irish Citizenship? My grandfather (my dads dad) died in 2000 so he wouldn’t be able to help apply but wanted to see if my dad had a shot? I have to figure out when my great grandma became an American citizen/ if she kept her Irish citizenship into having kids but wanted to see if this was possible first!!

Thanks you for reading!

8 Comments
2024/11/30
01:37 UTC

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FBR Application - Adopted Irish born Grandma, siblings applications at once, one minor sibling, and different addresses.

Hey everybody, just recently found out about this, and am trying to organize things for my family so that we and any kids we may have can be EU citizens down the line.

My grandma was born in Ireland, then adopted by a couple in the US. She was raised in the states, had my mom here, and my mom had me and my siblings here.

Out of me and my two siblings, my sister is still a minor.

My siblings can both likely still find proof of address for the same address as our mom, but it’s possible my brother would need to use his university apartment’s address. I have been gone too long, I would definitely have a separate address from them.

As for my questions:

As far as I can tell adoption is no problem, we’ll just need to additionally include my grandmas adoption record, is that right? And it should the the Irish record, as opposed to the American one? (I’m not actually sure if there is an American one, just want to double check the Irish one is what they want)

It sounds like we can put our three applications in the same envelope and have them processed simultaneously to save some time.

Will there be any issues with us having different addresses? Still providing proof of address for each of course, but I want to double check that them being different is not an issue.

As for my sister still being a minor. It sounds like the requirements are slightly different for her. We can still submit all the documents together right? My sister will just have the note from her school about her residence instead of the standard proof of address, and my mom will provide the proof of address and photos that she wouldn’t have otherwise needed to.

If anybody has the extra time to go through and double check my list, that would also be great! But I think I’m good if my assumptions above are right. Thanks!!

Siblings and I:

  • Witnessed application form
  • Birth certificate
  • Witnessed photocopy of drivers license or passport (certified as true copy by witness)
  • 2 separate proof of addresses (non-minors)
  • Letter from school, on headed paper which includes address (minor)
  • Witnessed 4 color photographs (only 2 must be witnessed, signed and dated)

Mom:

  • Birth certificate
  • Marriage certificate
  • Witnessed photocopy of drivers license
  • 2 separate proof of address (because of minor)
  • Witnessed 4 color photographs (only 2 must be witnessed, signed and dated)

Grandma:

  • Birth certificate
  • Adoption certificate (from Ireland?)
  • Marriage certificate
  • Witnessed photocopy of drivers license or passport

Witness (school principal, friend of mom):

  • Same witness (per application at least)
  • Should witness the form
  • Should witness two of the photographs (sign and date them)
  • A business card (as opposed to a stamp)
  • should witness photocopy of IDs, drivers licenses or passports
3 Comments
2024/11/29
23:52 UTC

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Send original FBR certificate

If you’re applying for a first time passport after receiving your foreign birth certificate make sure you send the original copy of the certificate.

I’ve had my passport knocked back as I sent a copy. Even though it was signed and certified I’ve still had to send the original. Everything else in my application was absolutely fine.

Very frustrating but hopefully this helps people not make the same mistake.

13 Comments
2024/11/29
22:59 UTC

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Got My Paternal Grandfather’s Birth Certificate. Now What?

American citizen.

Got my paternal grandfather’s birth certificate from Ireland.

I want to apply for FBR. What do I do now?

(Sorry. Dumb American)

5 Comments
2024/11/29
22:29 UTC

11

First time passport timeline

I mailed my documents for my first time passport after receiving my FBR certificate on October 8th (from the USA) and I received the passport in the mail today, November 29th

About 6 weeks for current processing times, the website estimation was slightly off. Still MUCH faster than getting a passport renewal in the US!

Sláinte!

15 Comments
2024/11/29
19:53 UTC

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Thank you!

My FBR certificate arrived today and I want to say a big thanks to the people in this community who have helped throughout the process. The information here is stellar and has been a great guide.

Thank you!

4 Comments
2024/11/29
17:01 UTC

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Am i eligible

I have lived in Northern Ireland for almost 2 decades, having moved here when i was a baby. I have a British citizenship otherwise but I think I may be eligible for Irish citizenship via naturalization. Do they normally grant it under these circumstances or do they just fleece you 170€. I speak Irish if that would sway them any more 😭

Thanks for the replies guys, found out its an extra 1000€ if accepted n that is not worth it when i can live in Ireland anyway

12 Comments
2024/11/29
12:52 UTC

1

Documents for proof of name and address for passport application

Good morning everyone

Just sorting out my documentation required for my first passport application. I live in France (but am English/Irish through FBR)... So my proof of name and address documents are in French (phone bill/utility bill/bank statement)... will this be ok? The name and address are clearly stated but I'm not sure if the document needs to be in English or Irish.

Also for clarity, can i submit a bank statement for proof of address and an utility bill as proof of name (for example) or is my British passport proof of name already?

Sorry if these are silly questions!

TIA

11 Comments
2024/11/29
10:21 UTC

4

For those who had their application accepted

For anyone who has had their application approved - did you have any debt/credit card debt? Trying to figure out finances while preparing my application. We have a HELOC on our home/mortgage, which would be paid off when we’d sell the house. And then I have some credit card and medical bills.

Edit: I never said ANYTHING about FBR. Yall assumed.

13 Comments
2024/11/29
00:16 UTC

0

Retirement Visa (Stamp 0) to Naturalised Citizenship path

Hey all,

First off, I'm a USA citizen and I don't qualify for FBR. My great-grandmother was Irish, but neither my father or grand-father applied for citizenship. So that option is out.

I've been able to save up enough cash to possibly qualify for the Stamp 0 retirement visa. The grand plan was to arrive and stay via Stamp 0, feel out life in Ireland to ensure it's a good fit, and if it was, apply for citizenship by naturalisation (CbN) after 5 years. After obtaining citizenship, I could do some local part-time work to retain my sanity while in retirement, i.e. have something to do.

But the continuity between Stamp 0 and citizenship seem vague. I've read on one third-party website that the Stamp 0 time in State does not count toward CbN, and that you just renew indefinitely as an extended stay visa. I haven't found any official Ireland Immigration sites that confirm it. Does anyone know if this is true? And if so, is there another method for CbN that doesn't require Irish employment?

The only alternative that I've found is becoming an EU citizen through Portugal and moving to Ireland afterward. But that seems overly circuitous.

14 Comments
2024/11/28
22:55 UTC

2

Issues uploading to ISD online Portal

Anyone expriencing the same?

They have requested additional information (PSNI DAT1), which i assume i would just added to the Supporting Documents tab of the original Application but i've been getting a [object XMLHttpRequest] error. Maybe it will rectify after this weekends maintenance.
Or i am suppose to be sending it somewhere else?

4 Comments
2024/11/28
21:51 UTC

2

Applying for Irish Passport from abroad

Hello all, I live in Asia. Im settled here now and my Irish passport has now expired (I issued it about 13 years ago). Will I be able to use the Irish online passport service in order to renew my passport?

How long will it take estimatedly? And how would it be delivered to me? Thanks!

15 Comments
2024/11/28
21:47 UTC

1

FBR Maiden name question

Hi all!

I was so thrilled to receive my FBR Certificate in the mail!

However, the certificate was issued in my maiden name, not my married name. Is that to be expected or was a mistake made?

Thanks for any advice!!

3 Comments
2024/11/28
21:03 UTC

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