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I asked the I-ching about a platonic relationship I have with a friend. It has the potential for career and business growth, but I cannot seem to get over my own emotional, romantic feelings toward this person. I asked the I-ching how I should proceed: Should I follow my intuition or emotion on the subject and stop associating with this person, or just follow my head and do what is necessary for possible career growth?
I received the hexagram 46 Unchanging.
The Trump presidency occupies of lot of my bandwidth these days, because I am a federal employee. If you're not following what's been going on, I invite you to take a stroll by r/fednews and see what Musk is doing to the various departments of the Federal Government.
I asked Yi "What will be the effects/impact of the Trump presidency as a whole over the next four years?" The answer was Hex. 1.1.3.4.6 > 29.
I asked Yi "Please show me what is to come for America through this Administration change." The answer was 47.2.4.5 > 2.
No big surprises there.
I asked Yi "What is my place or role in this time [that is emerging]?" The answer was 23.6 > 2.
Just thought it was interesting. Anyone care to discuss?
My former boyfriend and I have not spoken for a few months time. I reached out to him to try to be friends. He said it was too painful. He's trying to work on some things, and contacted me to tell me. He also said he was sorry and needed time to be left alone and will reach out when he's ready.
Okay fair enough, I wished him the best. So I won't disturb him. I'll go live my life, but I still have a lot of love for him.
I asked for an image of our friendship/relationship, if any, over the next couple of years?
32.1.5 -> 11
Enduring Persevering -> Peace
Will we reconnect or reunite as friends or loves?
45.1 -> 17
Gathering -> Following
Finally, to describe the communication or contact he will make toward me, if any, in the future?
60.2.6 -> 42
Articulating -> Blessing
These all have positive imagery for couples, connections, speech, and 32 even has images of marriage. How might y'all read positive hexagrams with rather unpleasant changing lines, for a situation that is pretty broken?
Might 32 with continuing and enduring describe this non communication as permanent, or, a stable married couple? These are very contradictory scenarios.
Might 45 gathering and reuniting suggest just such thing... I am almost skeptical.
And finally, 60 suggests some bitter articulation and words, blocks, which makes sense for the situation, but paired with 42 abundance, increase.. okay so MORE bitter articulation, or, perhaps, things loosen and blessings increase.
I always called him a blessing and sent cards to him with fountains. Sigh. Any interpretive advice welcome.
I’m even thinking about making it shorter but i’d lose big money doing so, being there i’m also spending like 2k monthly.. I don’t know if i might get robbed, scammed, feel anxious or miss home.. I lost my energy really now i’m having so many doubts.
Would love your take on the matter and of course ask away if you need more context.
Fairly new, have become decently proficient in calculating hexagrams and changes using both coins and dice, recently downloaded Wilhelm's translation, all that good stuff.
I'm curious how I can improve in interpreting the I Ching in a practical way - one article I saw for instance, describes identifying one person or topic or another as the subject of a hexagram, or one of several subjects. How do you learn to do this more effectively? How do you get better at identifying the Hex's meaning for questions that aren't about specific people or situations - i.e. asking the I Ching about a location?
Hi everyone, I asked Yi whether it would be a good idea to direct my fashion brand towards a specific line focusing on handmade and luxurious items. It showed me 55.3>51
I keep getting this hexagram in relation to inquiries about a particular person, for example “What should I anticipate in my relationship with Person?”
I’m wondering if the unchanging aspect relates to an inability to do anything in this situation.
I’m wondering if there’s more insight to be gained from this. I’m also intrigued by the repetition. It seems to be pointing to a broader theme.
About a year ago I became the caretaker of three younger family members, and I’ve noticed anxiety about the future, mainly what happens if I die young and can’t help them navigate adulthood. So I asked I Ching what I could do to prevent losing my health.
I interpreted 60 as having some sort of doable health routine that I could enjoy and be consistent with. But I’m not really understanding 24. I am a very spiritual person and have always liked movement, moving to new places, new careers, long drives, long daily walks, I feel really alive and connected to God when I’m moving but I’m not sure if that’s what it means?
Any interpretations are appreciated.
So, I recently got the Wilhelm-Baynes translation and started reading through it. I just want to ask if you read through the whole book from beginning to end, or do you read the introductions and the material but skip the texts and the commentaries and then go back to the texts as you’re consulting??? Not sure if it makes sense (it very late… or early…) Kthanxbyeeee
I cast this while imagining a future for myself and my relationships with loved ones and colleagues at my top choice graduate program:
Primary: Hexagram 13, 5th line changing
Secondary: Hexagram 30
I’m truly unversed in the book of changes and am wondering if y’all could help me with interpreting this outcome? Did I cast incorrectly? I used quarters.
Thank you in advance
hi folks,
Someone in my life who has previously seemed eager to spend time with me has cooled toward me in the last few weeks; we've spoken a little but mostly at my urging and not with the same frequency as usual. It may be because of general busyness in their life but they've been hard to read, so I asked the oracle "what is the significance of this recent silence between us?" and got hexagram 27, with lines 1, 5, and 6 changing. What's confusing to me is that the interpretation I read of 5 an 6 changing lines seems a little contradictory—5 suggests that it's an unfavorable time to cross the river, while 6 suggests favorability (this is from Huang's book). Anybody have thoughts on this, or on the reading in general?
My question is "Why dont I feel so moved to compassion regarding the misfortunes of this person?" I dont feel so sorry for them and it makes me feel a bit like a psycho. The hexagrams i got seem to give indecipherable message. I'd appreciate a more knowledgeable input. 👐🏻🪷
Hi it's me again :)
This time I am trying to help out a good friend who has been very depressed for a long time. I used to be a depressed person so I know what they are going through and how hard it is to break out of it, even when offered help.
I asked the I Ching: "With respect, what is the best way for me to help X right now?" I got 48 (the Well) transforming to 46 (Upward mobility). This all reads great to me and is very optimistic.
I just wanted to know if our sage readers here have any other input or advice they can give. I've kind of hit a wall with them as they seem reluctant to talk about anything even tho they know the struggles I've been through as well.
Thanks much and blessings to all!
This can pertain to anything. Scents, sights, sounds, tastes, objects, group versus individual?What about doing a reading using the I Ching for someone else?
Hello to everyone!
I'm new to the studies of Yi Jing and I've made my first reading to the book, but I need some help to understand the answer.
For a little context, back in 2014 I met this guy and we became very close friends for the next couple of years.
In 2020's January, this friend of mine declared his love for me. We were both imature, I didn't know how to react, so I back up from him. He also didn't react very well.
Late in 2021, we briefly talked as friends, but he, again, said that he loved me. And, again, I didn't know how to answer him. I was still imature, didn't know how to be friends after this. We went our separate ways.
Well. He is a very special person in my life, and since he went away, I miss him (really, HIM) and our friendship. I like to think that I'm a very different person from who I was in 2021 but I'm still very insecure about getting back into his life, since our history. Don't know if he would react with anger, hurt, happy...?
So, I asked to I Ching "What would happen if I get in touch with X?" It answered me back the hexogram ䷞ 31 - 咸 xián.
8 in line 6;
7 in line 5;
7 in line 4;
7 in line 3;
8 in line 2;
8 in line 1.
To interprete the answer, I based in two different sources: https://www.yijingorienta.com.br/ (PT-BR);
The Complete I Ching, by Alfred Huang.
I can see that the book recognizes our friendship as something that was special, bonded by love for each other and music. I think that it shows that what we had was very special, and it's worth trying to get back this friendship, even if he says no. But I am a little bit lost on how it talks with my question.
Can someone please enlight this beginner? 🙏🏻
And sorry if I wrote something wrong, english isn't my native language
This is regarding an estrangement. I'm reading this as a gentle invocation against action at this time, that I should concentrate on nurturing and finding my humility and virtue in "lowliness". And also advice against taking a leap of faith at this time. Altogether not a bad auspice and a good reminder to redouble my efforts at the work of cultivating my psyche and being conscious. Lots to chew on here I think. It seems that 19.2 could represent the person returning to their friends and family, familiar ground after being with me - someone very different from them in tastes and affect etc.
I feel like I have so much work to do, perhaps that is outside the scope of the subreddit but my I Ching practice always reminds me of my inner work, especially after long periods of its neglect and preoccupation with distractions like romance at times which I often take the wrong approach to I fear, one of ego and unconsciousness.
Thank you for reading, unknown friends.
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Im currently working an assignment that is coming to an end. The employer already told me he'd like me to stay and prolingate the assignment.
The assignment is part of a apprenticeship where I do multiple assignments at different places during six years. When I extend the assignment, I'll probably get the chance to visit other countries. Sounds good according to everyone around me, but I must say I don't really care for international experience and I feel I don't want to extend. Everyone I speak to tell me this is probably a once in a lifetime opportunity.
I asked the oracle what if I'd extend the assignment. It gave me: 39.3.4 > 45
above K’AN THE ABYSMAL, WATER below KÊN KEEPING STILL, MOUNTAIN THE JUDGMENT
OBSTRUCTION. The southwest furthers. The northeast does not further. It furthers one to see the great man. Perseverance brings good fortune.
THE LINES
Nine in the third place means: Going leads to obstructions; Hence he comes back.
Six in the fourth place means: Going leads to obstructions, Coming leads to union.
above TUI THE JOYOUS, LAKE below K’UN THE RECEPTIVE, EARTH
THE JUDGMENT
GATHERING TOGETHER. Success. The king approaches his temple. It furthers one to see the great man. This brings success. Perseverance furthers. To bring great offerings creates good fortune. It furthers one to undertake something.
I then asked what if I wont extend the assignment. It gave me 10.2.3.5 > 30
above CH’IEN THE CREATIVE, HEAVEN below TUI THE JOYOUS, LAKE
THE JUDGMENT
TREADING. Treading upon the tail of the tiger. It does not bite the man. Success.
THE LINES
Nine in the second place means: Treading a smooth, level course. The perseverance of a dark man Brings good fortune.
Six in the third place means: A one-eyed man is able to see, A lame man is able to tread. He treads on the tail of the tiger. The tiger bites the man. Misfortune. Thus does a warrior act on behalf of his great prince.
Nine in the fifth place means: Resolute conduct. Perseverance with awareness of danger.
above LI THE CLINGING, FIRE below LI THE CLINGING, FIRE
THE JUDGMENT
THE CLINGING. Perseverance furthers. It brings success. Care of the cow brings good fortune.
This is another post about my relationship. The time has passed, we are living together and all. She’s the greatest girl ever; love her to death tbh. But we argue repeatedly, and when we do it this isn’t good on me. I do not know who or what to ask answers from. I just value our bond deeply that it becomes unbearable to live in conflict so often. I mean I understand that sometimes people fight, and there’s no way about it, but this should happen in a happy relationship? I’ve asked several questions to I-Ching, hope you could provide me with valuable feedback as really, all I want is to be her dream man.
17.2.5.6 -> 38
29.1.2.3. -> 63
51uc
I know I do make her upset sometimes, but really I don’t do this intentionally. Nor I have other women or cheat. She doesn’t trust men in general, and her heart been broken before. When we’re in conflict she’s aggressive and always wants to end things between us. Like the conflict could start for any reason, I just know that this reason is not it - there’s something deeper than this (like root cause)
Hello, In short, I'm in a relationship that has been on and off, and we both feel it's time to come to a decision about our future. As with all things, there is much good along with some challenging parts to our relationship, and both of us are careful deliberators, which is why we haven't yet committed as far as engagement yet. After conversation between us that left me more mixed up than assured, I asked the iching what the best course of action would be in terms of my relationship to this person and received 31 unchanging. I am taking this to mean to stop trying to work things out logically, stop trying to explain what I understand to be going on psychologically in my myself and us. What I'm focusing on will grow, so by imagining these logical arguments (even if I'm explaining myself and advocating for our relationship) I'm only inviting more arguing. In essence, what I'm focusing on inside is being reflected outside, and I need to take responsibility by changing my inner life. Am I on the right path here?
How many here have begun their Own version of the Forest of Changes? How many People have embarked on Their Own 4096 verses?
For those unacquainted, this Wikipedia article describes the practice well, and I know a few Who have begun this Personal Journey.
but tldr; ... "Forest of Changes" is a rather specific style of Yijing practice in which (instead of, for example, focusing on a question) 0ne takes each of the 4096 hexagram Transformations, meditates on the Transformation, and then composes a responding Verse. The result is a rather intimate journal of 0ne's personal Path based around the 4096 transformations of the Yijing.
aNYway? ANy0nE?
Asked about what the general outlook for the rest of the week was going to be for me, and and am unsure as to the meaning of this response in particular.
I don't understand why he is recommended so much to those who want to study the Yijing, yet none of his commentaries have been translated to english.
Hello peeps. Today I tried to cast my coins, asking if there is potential to start something with a certain person (not thinking of a serious relationship specifically, but at least some romance.) I got hex 22 with top 6 changing to 36. It startled me as it mentions purity and white, and the person I have on my mind is always wearing white. The darkening of light makes me think to the core of the situation: I feel there is some attraction but it's not been expressed. And yet, it seems that the cast describes more the current situation, rather than pointing to future developments. Am I right? Shall I toss my coins once more? 😜 Many thanks to who will help shed some light (after hex 36, lol) xxx R.