😭😭😭 he was such a tool s1 to her so fake and even mean when she didn't take his marriage offer. Then she came into her own at the end s1. Just for s2 to open with them sleeping together????

i started season 3 today after i stopped watching for one day because of that tragic ending of season 2 and i found so cute and sad that cullen put lily's grave in a field of flowers that she liked😭

i know that cullen have more love interest in the future (don't spoil pls) but i don't thing that i ever get over their relationship

Marking this as a spoiler just in case... At the start of season 4, Durant has his men lay track across a frozen body of water and then tries to run a train over it. Psalms predicted the result. I feel like if the real Durant had done this, I would have heard about it. Is anyone more familiar with railroad history able to confirm whether anything like this really happened, or if this was just artistic license for drama's sake?

i am so angry and sad, this is my first watch lf Hell On Wheels and i am so mad about lily's death, i was rooting for lilly and cullen to be endgame and then they killed a couple of episodes after they finally get together i can't😭😭😭

(i spoiled myself with 2 more deaths)

Anticlimactic ending

In a couple episodes there is a slow banjo picking song. I can’t recall the episodes but it is a cool sounding song. Anyone know what it’s called???

I just finished the series and while I'm somewhat satisfied with the series, I wished the writers would have written Cullen’s intentions with each love interest better. Out of the following, who would you rather have him fall in love with? For me, Ruth would have been the best option, especially if they didn't have Joesph and Ruth try to be a couple and be adopted siblings.

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Watching the series for the first time and just watched this episode. Absolutely a punch in the gut for me, especially since I practically binged S4 till now in under two days. I think this speech was Cullen trying to say his peace to his first wife and son while giving Naomi some sollace that he did love her.

Anybody else kind of sad that Naomi didn’t want Cullen

I know I'm talking about a show from 2015, but I'm watching Hell On Wheels for the first time, and who knows, it's just plain courtesy to tag for spoilers. (Except maybe the climax of The Empire Strikes Back.)

I know Louise (the Journalist) slept with Campbell (the Governor) back in Season 4, but in Season 5 when she gets an abortion, she tells Eva she's been pregnant for three months.

And wow, okay, I think a lot more than three months passed between the last episode of Season 4 and first episode of Season 5. Our characters from Cheyenne all moved on to Laramie, Cullen spent a month looking for his family, then traveled to Salt Lake City, then got the job in California, then became an important figure at the Central Pacific railroad in California, while Mickey and Eva's brothel built up considerably in Laramie from nothing, and Durant did all his shady Durant-ing.

No character explicitly says if only three months have passed between Season 4 and Season 5, it's simply implied - to me, at least - that it has to have been at least six months, if not a whole year entirely.

Now, granted, Louise could have been sleeping with Campbell during that gap between seasons. She just seemed to have ended things pretty definitively in the Season 4 finale.

I'm jumping the gun posting here, because I'm like four episodes from the end of the entire series, and the answer may yet be revealed, but if Campbell and Louise didn't have sex after the Season 4 finale, do you think...

Was the kid Martin Delaney's? 'Cause I'm 99% certain something happened between Louise and Martin Delaney.

(I can't be the only person who thought this at some point. It's been like a decade and I absolutely cannot be the only person who thought this.)

Is it ever mentioned what the babies name is? As far as I noticed she never called her a name, just “my baby”.

What is that melody played on the piano? I know it and I can’t place it and it’s driving me crazy.

Anyone know why the episode A New Birth of Freedom has 12 minutes cut out in Paramount Plus? Right after Bohannon finds the photograph, the credits start and when they end, the episode suddenly shows Psalms complaining about doind double the work. No idea what’s going on.

My man started off with with vengeance in his heart for his lost wife and child during the war.

Then came Miss Lily Bell. He wanted nothing to do with her. Only the railroad. Finally bagged her and then the Swede took that one away.

Next Naomi and the good Mormons of Fort Smith. He gave the railroad up for her only to return to finish the Cut.

Lest we forget Miss Ruth who wanted nothing more than her parish, albeit Mr Bohannon had her desires since day one at Hell on Wheels.

And finally the lovely Mae. Mr Bohannon, with his steely eyes and his constant sun burnt grimace woos the ladies of the west as he plunges the railroad further west.

I’m almost done with the show and let me tell you, it’s really one of the greats. Cullen Bohannon for President. You love to that steely eyed gaze…now let’s get to workin!

There are a few oblique references to a crime committed in Boston that forced the McGinnes brothers to leave town in great haste.

My off the wall theory is that Mickey, not Sean, is the killer.

Consider:

1. Of the two brothers, which one is OBVIOUSLY the hard-ass?

2. We get *one* side of the story, and are never *quite* told what happened. Mickey's rather vague version of events is that, "Tings got out of hand, and Sean did some tings that he shouldn't a-have."

3. Mickey would probably not have shot his baby brother dead over revealing that he *covered up* a murder. In the unlikely event that anyone came looking for the girl -- and her family had almost certainly disowned her -- dumping her body in Boston Harbor would have made her impossible to identify. However, Mickey would quite possibly have killed Sean for revealing that Mickey *committed* a murder.

4. It's very easy to imagine that at some point on the journey West from Boston, Mickey said to Sean, "If yez ever open a mouth on ya about what happened with that hoor, I'll shoot yez where ya stand" -- which is EXACTLY what happened -- in front of a *witness*, no less -- AND HE GOT AWAY WITH IT. He was also not freaked out when the Senator got killed -- as Sean clearly was. That is a *sociopath*'s level of cunning and ruthlessness.

Mickey, not Sean, is the murderer.

I kept expecting it to get close,but not actually happen. I wonder if Bohannan had told her he loved her (romantically) if she’d have changed her mind. I really hated how scared she was and that she had basically lost everything. Ruth deserved so much better. As good as it is this whole show will hurt your feelings that’s for sure!

I have a decent 5 year old Sonos system in bedroom (Playbase, Play 1 surrounds and sub). The audio on this series is as good as anything I've ever heard through my setup.

To be clear, I am not one to poke fun at folks for addiction related afflictions or physical limitations. Seeing a humbled Thomas Durant, after publicly making a fool out of himself, sit down and realize what he had done and mutter this quote was actually quite satisfying and truly makes me laugh out loud 😂

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Elam to Cullen

"I'm only gonna say this once. This here baby white. I know that. I do, but she mine. I don't care what color she is. She mine. She ain't got no other father but me. Who else gonna love her?" - "Don't matter what you think. My family was took from me, just like yours. And she the first thing I ever got... that's mine, all my own. I'm keeping her. See her grow up... real smart, real pretty. She gonna know I'm her daddy... and I love her."

I'm rewatching for first time in a good while, friends. That really hit hard knowing with knowing the rest of the show.

They sing let your hammer ring as they finish the episode. But they sing it another time as well somewhere through the show, I remember Lily bell seeing them working and singing. But I can’t find the scene or episode

I saw the flash forward in "any sun within reason", and it appears that he dies alone of a disease or something after meeting and paying for lunch with someone else? Thx!

I learned that this series existed via Reddit about a month ago. After watching this first episode, I was hooked. Finished the series this past weekend. Very impressed on how good the acting, writing, realistic the series has been. I see that it came out in 2012 on AMC, was it not heavily advertised then? I watched breaking bad but not walking dead nor sons of anarchy. So was it not advertised during BB as they were trying to push low winter sun?

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So my GF had me watch twilight and Christopher Heyerdahl is a character throughout the series. Doesn’t say much but the second I saw him I got excited and said “THATS THE SWEED!!!” She didn’t know what I was talking about so I had to start watching Hell on Wheels with her

I forgot how amazing of a villain he was, but I gotta ask y’all… was I the only one who, after seeing his whole story, actually got sad when he said “…but I’m Norwegian?” While he was in the cell before his death after he asked to play a harmonica again?

I may be a little too into his arc, but he is, I think, the only villain I hated but genuinely felt bad for when he finally died.

Thanks for reading my book. Have a nice night yall!!

NOTE: HEAVY SPOILERS

So I watched HoW way back when it first came out, which I guess is at least a decade ago now. I am rewatching it now, almost through the final season. There are many scenes and plot points that I coherently remembered this entire time, and even thought about years after I last watched it, that all match up with what I have seen with watching through it now... except for one thing: I remember a totally different ending involving Thor Gunderson.

So here is his ending that we do get: Thor goes to kill Collen's Mormon wife and kid, Collen shows up to save them and attempts to drown Thor in a river BUT THEN PULLS HIM OUT, drags Thor to an army camp where they hang Thor. And that's that. I had ZERO recollection of this scene when I watched it yesterday, especially the camp and the hanging.

Here is the ending that I remember: Thor ends up killing Collen's second family (in a fire, like his first family), Collen then drowns Thor into a river and leaves his body to float down the river with gospel chorus like music playing, and that is the last that we see of him. And before Collen kills him, Thor tells Collen that he may die but he is the devil, and he will always keep coming back after Collen like a curse. I distinctly remember this scene.

This river scene I remember also took place in a remote stretch of river in an open grassy plateau; in fact, earlier in the series, there is a scene where Brigham walks Thor up a hill in a remote spot to ask him who he really is, and I was confident that not only was this the place where I expected Thor to be killed at, but also that this scene intentionally showed this location for that purpose.

I fully expected to see that scene and I was surprised when it didn't happen. Maybe I should have held off from making this post until I watch the last few episodes, in case this all does actually happen somehow, but this is on my mind now lol.

Went searching for a show on Disney+ and Hell on Wheels was suggested. Don’t know if this is only in the USA though.

Been watching Hell on Wheels for yet another watch through. Always liked Cullen and Lily together so I figured I would make an entire YouTube video with all there interactions on the show. Feel free to check it out!

Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShihnXqWQVk

Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aCBa5WHT2g

Hope everyone enjoys!

Also please note if you are in Ireland or the United Kingdom this video is blocked due to copyright.