Was wondering if someone could help me find how to watch the "love is in the air" and "meltdown" webisodes i was only able to watch "bad hair day" i have a feeling they were taken down for sum reason cause I couldve sworn I've seen the "love is in the air" one like yearss ago.

Anybody have any links to articles or interviews with info on what led to the radical shift in tone and plot in Season 5? I had always assumed the change in writing was due to slumping ratings and an attempt to make the show more edgy? But it destroyed the show and sank the ratings. While it was a horror show the best parts of the series were where it was quirky and strange and sometimes even cute. S5 seems like a horror apocalypse show.

S1 and S3 averaged over 6M viewers per week. S2 and S4 averaged over 5M. But Season 5 ratings fell off a cliff. The Season averaged only 4M viewers per episode. It's obvious the move away from monster of the week toward the serialized war with black claw was to blame.

I've wondered for years why they didn't pivot the series back to it's roots mid season 5 when the ratings dramatically declined.

(ratings chart from from wikipedia)

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Just found Grimm, love this show. I'm a big science fiction, supernatural, action buff. I have my theory on Juliette and hexenbeists, I don't think they really gave us a chance to like her- they start the show off with Nick finding out he's a Grimm and trying to hide it from her when they were already a few yrs in on their relationship. Never gave us any background, or family (even in a coma), or any reason to really like her honestly. I feel like I would be pissed if my boyfriend and everyone around were lying to me like I were a child, and after a coma, claiming it was caused by a cat scratch 🙄. It took them way too long, considering she was literally under a hexenbeist spell, I think she deserves the truth. My best guess is maybe Juliette didn't have much family or friends, and when she got to have power, she loved it. She felt a bigger purpose and her and nick were a very superficial, almost puppy love type. So it was more like a learning experience for them together. Adalind had been exposed to that life and I feel like it was seamless for them to be together. I was actually happy they made her eve, she was a badass and wasn't all whiny like Juliette. I read that David giuntoli didn't want her killed off bc it's his real life woman, and you can pick up on that in the show bc it seemed like they were desperately trying to hang on to her. But it was nice that the whole gang got to finish together. I met my husband when I was a terrible person and he helped me grow, so the nick/adalind pair was a good choice to me. There was a lot of character growth in this show. And i really enjoyed the last season, and the badass ancestor fight finale. But I am pissed off they never gave us an action scene with trubels cool bike. Overall my favorite episode and wesen is the one with the muse. Love recommendations on some other shows.

I watched most of season one awhile ago, but since I only have Amazon prime as my streaming service for now, I’m back to rewatching this series. I just made it to season 2 of Grimm. One question I have that maybe will be explained later is why are all Wasen fearful of Grimm? Like I can see the predatorial ones or the bad Wasen being afraid of being executed. Like ppl, there are good and bad who have lives and families. Why did the Grimm seem to kill all Wasen in the past? Hatred and fear seem to be a taught trait from generations and since no one taught Nick the history from his Grimm perspective side, he’s not like the other aggressive Grimms.

Spoilers ahead

I'm almost done with the show it's my second rewatch, and man, I love Adalind and Nick together, but how they were brought up together was soooo messed up.

I think the actors have great chemistry and that's why I prefer him with her. Now, before some of you jump down my throat, I know there's a lot of opinion, and I'm not here to tell you whether your opinion is right or wrong.

Idk Grimm was a 2011 show ? I just notice that there are a lot of messed up thing in general in the show (killing, torturing, kidnapping, sa etc.) And honestly I've seen a lot of messed up things in older shows. But now times have changed, and it doesn't sit right.

But while rewatching the show, what Adelind did could have been prevented with just better writing.

Things don't add up, and I think the writers were rushed.

So we all know Adalind didn't wake up one day and wanted to take away Nick's power in that way. Unfortunately, the scooby gang (thanks to the writing) failed terribly with their messed up plan it's actually ridiculous.

First of all, kidnapping a newborn is maybe not the best idea. Second of all, pretending it is with the Royals and gaslighting the mother is also not the best idea. There were so many loose ends, and Nick actually mentions it to Renard :

Nick : what if she goes back to the royals ?

Renard : she's useless now they won't need her.

I'm sorry, but this is lazy writing. Sean knows how Viktor is, and I mean, don't tell me he doesn't know Adalind. Of course, she was gonna call Viktor over and over again and eventually take advantage of the situation. Especially when Adalind told him she's gonna stop crying and all. They really all acted like the plan was perfect, but they didn't take Adalind's mental state in count. I mean, they opened a portal of communication between Adalind and The Royals, and they just brushed it off. I guess they were not the sharpest people.

Now, again, there have been many debates and many solutions because people on this subreddit have better ideas than these writers.

1. Adalind could have been clued in not immediately but a little time after. Nick and Renard could have talked to her or even Kelly. I know people say she wasn't reliable, and honestly, for the sake of her daughter, she could have understood or maybe broke havoc. I guess we will never know.

2. She could have been on the run with them. Granted that means the show loses someone, but I mean there are lots of ways to bring a character in a show even if she is pregnant. Agree that it would be difficult.

Honestly, rewriting this point in the story would have changed a lot. If Viktor threatened to kill Diana if Adalind didn't do as he said, a lot of people would have more sympathy for her. For instance, their goal could have been wiping out the Grimms, and since they knew that Adalind was pregnant and did a lot of weird rituals, they could use her for the doppelganger spell. The child could have been leverage.

The thing is, even if the kidnapping was horrible and it led to consequences, Diana was not under immediate threat (pov of Adalind who thinks she is with the royals). She would have been used as an evil weapon, yes, but at this time, she wasn't really in danger. She was treated as a princess, so I think if the writers reversed the narrative of Diana (more of a threat than a treasure) it could have led to people wanting to get rid of her and then Adalinds action could have been understandable.

Idk, let's say Viktor has a witch working for him or just someone like Rosalee. Adalind refuses to take nicks power in that way, but the witch makes her do it anyway.

The difference is that these villains would actually die (the witch and viktor), and eventually, Nick will understand that it wasn't Adalinds choice and that it was all planned by Viktor. Then, their love story could have evolved better and not looked creepy. They were both tricked, and they have to work together now.

Also, people are saying that Adalind didn't know Nick was involved, but she still did it anyway. That's the thing. If Nick and gang wasn't really involved (in an alternate show) none of this would have happened because they would have helped her get Diana back from the royals (especially Kelly after all the trouble she went through) hence she would not contact the royals to take away nicks powers. Adalind didn't see they were all acting shady because she wasn't in the right state of mind. She didn't even think it was weird how Kelly gave up so easily ? Whereas Elizabeth (renards mom) immediately knew. If Adadlind brainstormed, she would have figured it out.

How would you rewrite this if you could ? I mean, if you are a Nadalind shipper, otherwise I think you don't want Adalind at all.

Please dont be mean 😭. It was a long rant, but it would be cool to just see how you would have written this.

I binged right through s1-5, but cannot get into s6. Will I miss anything important by skipping s6?

OR Nick and juliette relationship won’t Last.

for me this line season 3 said it all “ It's just this whole life of ours, the way it's being INFECTED by you being what you are, you know? I don't know if I can take it anymore."

i can’t believe Nick still wanted to marry her!! this guy was so desperate for happily ever after with this chick to even realize how wrong they were for each other!!

how about you guys? when did you know nick and juliette won’t last?

I am a fanatic of magical/supernatural tv series. I thought I had watched them all but found Kyle XY (did 1st season only) then stumbled on Grimm. I watched it right after Roswell which I liked. Grimm started out a little tough for me, mostly because Juliet drove me crazy. But I loved Monroe from the jump and him and Rosalee are perfect. Also thought the addition of Truble was great.

I find I am more invested as each season passes, I like the new Big Bad set up for the 5th-6th season. Its really exciting and good. Nick has been really dumb lately, I guess its trauma. Didn't like the hint he & Adelaide are going to pair up, yuck. Off to binge! Someone mentioned I might enjoy Haven after this, I'll for sure check it out.

I got the episode where Truble is introduced, and overall I'm really enjoying this show. The characters are great, I love seeing all the weird shit that goes down, and the overall universe is so much fun to explore.

So yeah. On season 3, and I'm having a good time binging.

By order of the wesen council of wallenstadt.

Just thought I’d make a post if you’re looking for a show similar to Grimm. I found Haven on stack tv and it’s got some similar vibes. It’s about an FBI agent who comes to the town Haven and she helps some of the town folk who have afflictions. They call it the troubles. Each episode covers a different affliction. It’s 5 seasons and I’ve just finished season 2 and I am really enjoying it. There are some episodes that are very similar to some of the Grimm episodes.

Nick learning about him being a Grimm later in his life instead of learning about it when he was still a kid was the best thing for him.

Because Nick was a cop first and a Grimm later he is all about serve and protect.

Instead of going after Wesen like his ancestors did, Nick befriended many of them. Monroe a Blutbad is now one of his best friends. He fell in love with Adalind, a Hexenbiest.

Nick changed a lot of people. Monroe and Rosalee met because of Nick. And Bud became braver and proved Eisbibers aren’t cowards.

This also helped the Wesen way of life, knowing that Grimm aren’t the enemy and that they can all live in one place without one attacking the other.

Was rewatching with my wife and she noticed something I never have. Whenever there is a new hotel room, the room number is always the season and episode. For example, in the episode, “Inheritance” season 3 episode 21, the hotel the old man Grimm and his son are staying in is 321. I checked and everytime a new hotel room is shown it always aligns with the season and episode. To maintain consistency, whenever an arc uses the same room such as many of the Hotel Deluxe scenes they maintain the number from its original appearance. Just thought it was interesting. This is the first time my wife has watched through the series and she picked up on it immediately, I’m on my 4th rewatch. Just kind of fun.

I’m rewatching for the 5th or 6th time and just realized…. the last episode is giving me serious Twilight: Breaking Dawn part 2 vibes! Entrusting your kid to someone who can protect them - and telling them to run when things go wrong and everyone is killed. THEN - it all ends up being a look into the future and everyone is alive again ☠️😵

First time watching the show. Im in s5e17 and nicks phone shows the date, april 15. In a previous episode where nick and adalind are getting to know each other nick mentions adalind’s bday to be april 14. Kind of sad it wasnt acknowledge and they skipped it 😢

Since Nick and Juliette were both in the wedding and that’s the only time it seems that wesen they knew (besides bud lol) saw Nick for what he was, is it safe to assume they didn’t have any close friends that they were willing to introduce Nick to? Or perhaps Nick really was their best friend in Portland

In the pilot episode, Aunt Marie is introduced slicing tomatoes. When Adalind and Nick are staying together for a brief time at his home before he sells, he makes her a sandwich. She tells him she's allergic to tomatoes.

The show is full of little easter eggs. And I'm sad it was ended so hastily (although the writers did the best with what they had). So maybe I'm coping by looking too deep into things, but I strongly suspect there's a reason behind the bringing up of tomatoes around key characters. Any ideas?

Currently rewatching Grimm with my boyfriend and we’re on 5x04 ‘maiden quest’. We’re Dutch and noticed they used our language this episode, but who the hell was in charge of the name of the wesen this episode, the ‘weten ogen’. Its supposed to be knowing eyes, but it should be ‘wetende ogen’. I feel like all these American shows could put a little more effort into getting the language they’re using correct 💀💀

Black Claws claim its open to Grimms and has no problem with half Wesen, but I really don't trust them.

Hi guys! So this is my first time watching Grimm. I’m currently on S5 Ep11 and a random question came to mind…

Do wesens have heat seasons or are they like humans in that regard?

I fear for it.

Grimm was one of the final shows that made it out before the film industry became such trash. There's a reason a bunch of us are still rewatching FRIENDS, Grimm, etc. The lazy writing, horrible horrible VFX and CGI, and these messages inserted into our stories before the actual stories itself.

If there's ever going to be a continuation, one major thing I hope doesn't happen is the 8 episode per season trend.

No. Just No.

I've noticed something, and that's that most series are so expensive to make despite having such few episodes because of the CGI, VFX and editing. More of it, means they can't afford to shoot more episodes, means the story gets cramped into as many episodes as they can afford (which is usually eight). Grimm didn't have the best VFX for the wesen tranformation but I know none of us would trade the amount of episodes we got for it.

I don't think Grimm would've worked if a season had 8 episodes. Because it was so long, the characters were fleshed out. Nick was the main character but we also got a lot on Rosalee, Monroe, Hank, even Wu. So, if they're going to do it, they need to demand 15 episodes at least. They should put as much as they can into the editing team but not at the cost of the story.

Those are my thoughts.

Just watched the most recent Law and Order SVU and Monroe was on it and he played a good bad guy and I’m so hating it.