Hi all,

I have been looking for two gabber tracks for a while that I have heard in a few sets of Cynthia Spiering, unfortunately with no chance of identifying them or finding online.

The set where I know both are is this one: https://soundcloud.com/officialb2s/cynthia-spiering-decibel-outdoor-2023-hard-techno-saturday

The first track I am looking for is at 49:29, and I assume the part at 49:59 is also from that track.

The second track starts at 1:13:50

Shazam hasn't given me anything sadly, and those two tracks are missing on the online track list.

Thanks for helping!

In a week or so, I am planning to briefly be in Amsterdam, and am hoping to get to be able to rave particularly to some old-school gabber.

I have looked at some timetables online, but are there any particular events that I might want to look at for when I am there?

mind over matter, jiiieehaaaa, wedlock, the unknown, the point … so many great tracks on the ruffneck label 💿

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The scene in Germany - just like in the Netherlands - was not monolith. It was varied, fragmented, with multiple tendencies, styles, groups, players, movers, shakers.
Some were into more Acidic or Technoid stuff. Others into fun party Gabber. Maybe even into Rave- Trancecore music. And Speedcore, Breakcore, all-out terror.
But regardless of that - there are some common descriptions and motions we can attribute to this scene - even if it is not a "one size fits all" thing.

Because compared to the Dutch scene, there was much less focus on a cheerful, "happy", or dance sound.
Instead - an affection towards brutality, violence, mayhem and things bleak, nihilist, and depressive.

So instead of dance-y hoovers you had trash metal samples; instead of pitched up female pop singers you had monologues by robert de niro or sergeant paula about death and war; instead of MCs calling you to get down and join the dancefloor you had the most heart-rending screams by people of all genders sampled straight out of "video nasties" and similar media; and instead of a "bouncy drum", the bass kick more often resembled the sound of a pile driver or other heavy duty machinery.

Oh, despite of all this darkness and obliteration, these producers, fans, and underground "party" people were not violent maniacs "in real life". Those that I met were often amongst the most friendly, elated, optimistic people I know.
It's just that they were seriously messed up in their heads. In the most positive way! Like we all are.
Likable freaks.

Ah, and on the topic of parties: the Dutch had big stadiums, arenas, small or large-size clubs and discos...
And in Germany the parties were often in squats, abandoned buildings, under a bridge, in a hole, in the mud....
No ventilation, no lights, just ~150 people cramped in a pitch black room with fog, strobes, and 120+ decibel of killer bass frequencies.

Like one of the Hateparade / F**kparade creators once said: "You know it's a good party when your clothes are covered in mud afterwards".

There are certainly similarities to the scenes of other countries - like USA, UK, France, Australia... but we will look at that at another time.

Instead we will look at 11 tracks of the 90s German Hardcore scene - right here, and right now!

1. Noize Creator - World Wide https://youtu.be/6-9Vl0ilpiY
2. Bakalla - 30 Stunden Schmerzen https://youtu.be/pcPw8iI_6Dk
3. Stickhead - Check This Mutha Down https://youtu.be/0w9jxAp225U
4. S 37 - Offspring Of The Night https://youtu.be/aye2wM2wQTQ
5. Amiga Shock Force - House Full of Gangstas https://youtu.be/vk5BKU3HinA
6. Taciturne - Alles Schweine https://youtu.be/j75a2FjvgH0
7. Ec8or - Raving Hypospadie https://youtu.be/6y7OLUST72o
8. Eradicator - Worringen https://youtu.be/Uq5-w1eJ5qs
9. Lord Nord - Sandman https://youtu.be/iOaWu_brHCk
10. Sonic Overkill - Föhnt wie Sau https://youtu.be/KgTKSZJSu10
11. Napalm - Trash Hard https://youtu.be/kAGrgzRQOgo

https://www.instagram.com/gabbakontrol?igsh=bXdxODQ2eGtjcTU0

Flyers, CD's, Vinyls and Promotional graphics from da past!!!

Enkele voorbeelden van wat u zult vinden:

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Maybe stupid question, sorry. But for me it looks really strange. Or it’s ok?

Searching for a Hardcore track. These are the lyrics... I know this one but forgot the name🫠

Get back mfucker, you don't know me like that [2x] Yeek yeek, woop woop, I ain't playing around Make one false move I'll take you down Get back mfucker, you don't know me like that [2x] Get back (back [?x])

Is er iemand hier die erheen gaat? Door tragische omstandigheden ben ik mijn beste homie kwijt. Dus ik ga alleen, is sws geen probleem voor mij. Maar... Zijn er toevallig nog wat gabber homies die mij willen adopteren 👉👈? (In groeppen is ook prima)

• Ik ga niet sober
• Ik ben een vrouw
• Mijn laatste event was REBIRTH, op 12 April. (Ivm andere tragische omstandigheden), dus al een tijdje geleden sinds ik bij een hardcore event was geweest 🗿

Hello! First post here!
I was wondering if anyone knows some more information on the masks Noisekick has worn over time; be it the iconic bald pointy eared guy or any of the other ones from the past. Were they custom made? Were they found somewhere in the Netherlands and he just started wearing them onstage? If anyone has any answers or leads, let me know! I have a special interest in masks and would love to know more.

Hello everybody,

as a short introduction for this post: I am mostly venting here on the downfall of industrial hardcore and cross breed. And also for time saving reasons, every time I am writing "indu" I mean "industrial hardcore and Crossbreed"

Triggerwarnings: I do NOT want to come across as an uptempo, mainstream or hype hater. Everyone has their own taste and that's GOOD! If it sounds like I am hater, I am very sorry for that, this post has just a lot of emotions stored up.

The reason behind this post: I have co-organized a party near Vienna/Austria for an industrial label, which I have looked up to for a long time. This party also was also somewhat of a birthday bash for me, since my birthday was around and a friend of mine had all the contacts and wanted to throw a sick party for the label. And nearly nobody came to celebrate indu or the darker side of hardcore.

So anyway let's start: My name is Paul and I have fallen in love with indu in 2019 when I have visited my first HarderStyles festival. They have opened the hardcore stage with an indu act and as soon as I heard those extremely distorted kicks combined with hard snares which more seemed like metal pipes crashing into each other than actual drum snares I have fallen completely for this type of genre which I couldn't describe at that moment. As soon as I arrived at home I started searching for more shit like that, because I was addicted to it. At exactly this weekend I have found artists like I:Gor, eDub and Ophidian. With the help of these particular artists I came across the main indu labels as enzyme, prspct or motormouth. These labels have showed me again more artists like detest, KRTM and Matt Green. I was hooked basically. And then there came this faithful night were I have seen that N-Vitral wasn't always the mainstyle hardcore artist which I already knew vaguely. It was super late, but I came across Crispy Bassdrum the original in early 2020. And then the legendary track by Dither "Binary". These tracks mean the world to me. This was the start for my own dedication to indu music and everything that is behind it.

As time went on and the pandemic came I have had my playlist of like 100tracks of indu sounds from the early 2000s to the modern tracks of eDub for example, which I have listened to day in and day out. Always adding new tracks as soon I have heard a new or old indu banger. At around this time in the pandemic I came around Iridium, an French indu producer which was just bonkers for me. Combining industrial kicks, metal snares, DnB(which I have listened to before already) and metal screams, with bootlegs of metal songs I have also heard(Last Resort to be exactly). In the summer where the festivals came back, I was finally standing in front of a stage again and all I wanted to is get up there and perform, I wasn't dancing at all the first 2 hours, I was just standing there and realized. Yep, that's what I want to do. So I bought a mixer, downloaded/bought a bunch of tracks and just went at it. And with some connections I had in my hometown I managed someday to also get up there. And it was AMAZING. Standing behind the mixers and looking at a bunch of people dancing in front of you is a feeling I can't describe. Anyway I have made a friend in summer of 2024 who invited me to organize a label party, for a label I love. We organized the party and booked the DJs. We have put literally everything we had into that party and just a few people came, mostly people that we knew from the organizers. Which was devastating.

Completely devastating....

A whole weekend of questioning the genre, the community and everything behind the music came.

I can't speak for the other organizers or anyone else but I have sadly realized that indu is "deader" then I wanted it to be. A passion that I have put my whole musical taste into is dead. I started asking where I it all went wrong with this side of hardcore and why it died.

The first point I saw was basically that the organizers of the big partys like defqon, MoH or Thunderdome don't give indu the stage it should get. I understand the economical side behind their decisions. But indu is also part of HarderStyles as uptempo or terror. And seeing that the silver on defqon1 was only opened on one day of the whole weekend or preferring a rawstyle stage over an indu stage at masters of HARDCORE just leaves me speechless.

The second and probably one of the more important facts is that the attention span of new listeners has decreased a LOT due to TikTok for example. Indu is a genre with long and challenging drops. Challenging means in that context for me that you can't expect the drop at the build up. Basically every drop could be an hardcore or DnB drop. But nevertheless it is Indu.

The third point is that the bigger artists have left the indu scene at this point. Nvitral, dither, edub and KRTM for example have left indu for more profitable or more exciting genres for them. (I have absolutely no hate for their decision btw). And I:Gor or Tieum have left the scene eternally(Tieum completely and I:Gor didn't release in quite a long time). There are still heads in that game but the biggest ones have left indu for the most part.

Forth point somewhat goes hand in hand in with my second point. Due to tiktok uptempo became so popular that it has killed all other styles of Hardcore. I do not know when a "real" hardcore DJ has headlined at a location near me, and we have had Art of Fighters, Paul Elstak and Ophidian before. The Only Hardcore DJs I see now are Noiseflow, DrDonk or TDH. And all the new hardcore fans prefer their microwaves more than real kicks.

I am open to discuss with you in the comments and feel free to ask me anything regarding this topic. :)

Cya