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Hey all

In a few cordial discussions with my NBCC business alumn friend (basically capitalist friend) we talked about the government providing the people with necessities like housing, clothing, etc you know the stuff.

My point of confusion came when he said after these things are provided that their necessities would then "change." I asked what that even means and said that when you have housing it doesn't suddenly stop being a necessity. Then someone else joined the discord call and the discussion pretty much evaporated so I didn't get a chance to ask for literature, a podcast, anything that could explain this (I will next time it comes up).

Is this something anyone has encountered or heard of?

Although this is too little too late... Shouldn't they penalize the bad actors as they have identified them already? And maybe use that money to build houses?

https://youtu.be/vOB7-dbYuCc?si=SK_YfXBYW4gJu2NC

This is a difficult, uncomfortable, and at times confusing subject for us leftists, progressives, and democratic socialists, but it must be discussed with the utmost honesty.

Under neoliberal capitalism, which is the current economic system (defined by corporate government, the primacy of markets, and rugged individualism), immigration systems and policies are designed with a particular end in mind: to provide employers with cheap labour.

Since the capital owning class are the ones who wield power in society, it stands to reason that the government's policies are mostly implemented with a view to increasing their profits.

After the pandemic, unemployment was low by historical standards. The job market was tight, workers had a lot of bargaining power. It was so amazing. For the first time in history, it felt like workers had the upper hand. After decades, employers had to confront the fact that workers were no longer a dime a dozen.

In his recent video on the subject, Justin Trudeau said that Canada was in the middle of a "historic labour shortage" after the pandemic and even admitted that bringing in more workers after the pandemic "worked".

Of course, **there was never a labour shortage.** There was a wage shortage. There was a surplus of greed and demand for cheap labour.

Companies didn't like the fact that they had to raise wages to retain workers, so they lobbied the government to exploit more cheap labour from abroad, using TFWs and international students as unwitting pawns in their efforts to suppress wages and make historically high profits. Even permanent immigration was significantly expanded for a similar purpose- to give corporations the upper hand in their negotiations with the workers.

What did the Liberals plan "work" to do?

Unemployment is now at 6.5%. Wage growth stalled, and our per capita GDP began to stagnate.

Let us be very clear.

Neoliberal economists absolutely adore high immigration numbers. Not because they care about immigrants, but because they want corporations to avoid paying higher wages. They often claim that immigrants are required by the system to "fill labour gaps", or in other words, "fix labour shortages", but we all know this only amounts to suppressing wage growth. If corporations cannot find workers, they must pay up and pay the rate that will attract labour.

It is still fraudulently and dishonestly claimed claimed that there is a "worker shortage" in construction and nursing for example, yet in both these fields, wages are stagnant.

This is absolutely not the fault of the immigrants. Class struggle is an international phenomenon. They do not wield any power over anyone, and are often from some of the most exploited countries on Earth. They are being used as cannon fodder for capital to be able to lower wages.

Under the current economic model, immigration is used by the ruling class to suppress wages by undercutting domestic workers, expanding the labour supply, and providing cheap labour to get around Canada's working conditions and wage pressures.

Obviously, the immigrants are not to blame for this. It is the corporations, and the state, that is to blame by maintaining an economic model where immigrants are basically used to suppress wages. It is the rich pulling the strings. However, the fascists encourage workers to turn their anger on immigrants rather than the system that uses them to suppress wages.

How should we progressives, democratic socialists, and leftists design an immigration system that does not suppress wages?

Some of my proposals include:

• Full regularization, rights, and status for every migrant worker
• Massive unionization drives
• Regulate the economy in such a manner that full employment can be reached
• Require immigrants to have obtained a job offer before being admitted to Canada
• Adjust immigration levels in response to changes in unemployment in particular industries
• Guarantee housing and medical needs to all

There are so many oblivious non/lesser magoids on there, their getting dosed so hard, and everyone who comes to Canada or thinks they like it here will join and get fed this terrible horseshit. Not to mention they let their lil PPs run wild, never censoring them, but if you even slightly resist from so much as a liberal angle you're quickly banned. We should do something about it. What can we do?