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Hi AustraliaSim,
I wanted to make this post alongside the Electoral Administrator Vote of Confidence as some people in AustraliaSim have mentioned discussing ending this simulator entirely.
If anyone wants to offer opinions of if we should have a vote on the matter, please put your argument in this post, as well as anyone who wishes to offer opinions on the contrary.
Another option to consider is perhaps a canon reset.
I don't have strong opinions on either subject, but I will continue to serve as Head Moderator until either my term ends or the simulator has been terminated, whichever is first. If there is a termination of a simulator, I am also happy to discuss what happens to all the subreddits, Discords, etc.
I only put this forward as a conversation because I think it is necessary to have.
God Speed,
NGSpy
Head Moderator
Hi AustraliaSim,
The office of Electoral Administrator is vacant.
This post acts as the nomination post as well as the five day notice for the vote for the nominee as per the Constitution. A reminder that you need 5 seconders in order to be considered as a candidate for Electoral Administrator.
Voting Timeline:
Voting Opens: 29th of November, 2024 at 1:00PM AEDT.
Voting Closes: 1st of December, 2024 at 1:00PM AEDT.
Get nominating!
Signed,
NGSpy
Head Moderator
Hi AustraliaSim,
Remember to verify yourself by the comments.
Vote ends at 12:30pm at the 22nd of November, 2024.
Hi AustraliaSim,
As per u/jq8678's recent post, they have resigned as the Electoral Administrator and thus it is my perogative under the Constitution to elect a new Electoral Administrator.
This post acts as the nomination post as well as the five day notice for the vote for the nominee as per the Constitution. A reminder that you need 5 seconders in order to be considered as a candidate for Electoral Administrator.
Voting Timeline:
Voting Opens: 12th of November, 2024 at 1:00PM AEDT.
Voting Closes: 14th of November, 2024 at 1:00PM AEDT.
Get nominating!
Signed,
NGSpy
Head Moderator
I am resigning in 10 days from now or after a new EM is elected, whichever comes first.
I’m resigning because I’m far too busy with work, and I also wouldn’t be able to run the next GE anyway because of other conflicts.
I’m not going to do a 1000 word post but I just wanted to thank Ana who has been extraordinarily helpful with the calculator and all things EM. Thank you!
Peace and love ✌️ ❤️
doc
Name: Benjamin Carter
News Outlet: Metro News Journal
Hex Code: #420B67
These changes to the Standing Orders are made due to popular opinion. Specifics will be added at a later date, with general terms found below.
They aim to allow working and/or late studying participants of the sim further time in the evening to vote, debate and legislate, whilst also allowing more time for our Western Australian friends, and providing a breather for our Speakership after work/study to have some time to relax before rushing to schedule in business.
The changes will do no more than enable:
Additionally to the above, we'll also be setting an end time for business submissions at Tuesday 8:30PM Canberra time (for Business starting on the Tuesday cycle) and Friday 8:30PM (for Business starting on the Friday cycle).
These changes will come into effect in 5 days, on Friday 1st November at 5:00PM AEDT (Canberra Time) as is required by the Meta Constitution.
Hia Aussim,
As the title suggests, I am petitioning to return the vote end times for parliament to 7pm. This would give more time for MPs to vote and debate, which would allow people who are busy during the cycle day to be able to make last minute contributions.
Youma
Hey everyone,
I'm coming back to the sim. My old Reddit account got hacked in June and Reddit support didn't feel like helping me out, so this is my new account.
Hi AustraliaSim,
The following are the results for the most recent petitions conducted by myself.
Vote of Confidence in u/jq8678 as Electoral Administrator
Do you approve of u/jq8678 continuing as Electoral Administrator?
Yes: 11
No: 2
Abstentions: 0
Therefore, u/jq8678 will continue as Electoral Administrator.
Petition to permanently ban u/Model-Jordology and Amendments
Do you approve of u/nmtts-'s amendment to the Constitution to permanently ban Jordology?
Yes: 11
No: 10
Abstentions: 2
Therefore, u/Model-Jordology will be permanently banned from AustraliaSim.
Do you approve of u/Anacornda*'s amendment to the petition to remove text on why Jordology is banned?*
Yes: 11
No: 10
Abstentions: 2
I can confirm that all votes cast were verified.
Signed,
NGSpy
Head Moderator
Hi AustraliaSim,
Make sure to verify in the comments of this post.
Vote ends on the 11th of October, 2024 at 9AM AEDT (UTC+11).
Name: The Commonwealth Advocator
Colour: #6F4685
Hello AustraliaSim,
As posted previously, AustraliaSim needs to vote on the approval of u/nmtts- as Clerk.
You can vote on these matters using the link on this big text.
Verify by posting something in the comments of this post.
Only Registered Members, all Parliamentarians, Justices and Officeholders can vote in this election.
Voting ends on Monday 7th October, 2024 at 5:00PM AEDT .
Hi AustraliaSim,
Don't forget to verify your vote in the comments of this post.
Voting ends at 11:00PM AEDT (UTC+11).
nmtts has extensive experience as a Justice, in addition to his many years of service in both meta and canon within AustraliaSim. Having expressed interest in the position of Clerk, with the expansion of Clerk powers to include assisting our High Court, I'm more than happy to nominate u/nmtts- as a Clerk.
Start: Saturday 5th October, 2024 at 5:00PM AEST
Finish: Monday 7th October, 2024 at 5:00PM AEDT
Results: Monday 7th October after 7:00PM AEDT
Hi AustraliaSim,
I have received noticed that the petition to permanently ban u/Model-Jordology has received the required amount of seconders. This clarification will be applied to this vote, and the proposal is:
Insert, after the part on 'TRANSITIONAL PROVISIONS' (i.e., after sections 46 and 47), a new part, headed 'COMMUNITY SAFETY BANS'.
COMMUNITY SAFETY BANS
- Active Community Safety Bans
(1) has exhibited a repeated and escalating pattern of threatening, abusive and harrassive behaviour towards members of which has negatively impacted community morale. has undermined and attempted to defraud community moderation efforts. poses a risk to the community until the community deems otherwise by way of amendment to this provision. Therefore, as of [insert date of passage of amendment], be it resolved by the members of , that and any alternative accounts that utilises or creates, is permanently banned from .
This serves as the official five day notice before the vote commences.
Timeline
Vote Opens - 7PM AEDT 8th of October 2024
Vote Closes - 7PM AEDT 10th of October 2024
Everyone who is an MP, controls Senators, a Justice or an Officeholder, alongside those registered separately as a Member of AustraliaSim, may vote in this vote.
Signed,
NGSpy
Head Moderator
5 seconders have been received and, under advice, this is the formal proposed amendment to the Meta Constitution to permanently ban u/Model-Jordology from r/AustraliaSim.
Insert, after the part on 'TRANSITIONAL PROVISIONS' (i.e., after sections 46 and 47), a new part, headed 'COMMUNITY SAFETY BANS'.
COMMUNITY SAFETY BANS
48. Active Community Safety Bans
(1) u/Model-Jordology has exhibited a repeated and escalating pattern of threatening, abusive and harrassive behaviour towards members of r/AustraliaSim which has negatively impacted community morale. u/Model-Jordology has undermined and attempted to defraud community moderation efforts. u/Model-Jordology poses a risk to the community until the community deems otherwise by way of amendment to this provision. Therefore, as of [insert date of passage of amendment], be it resolved by the members of r/AustraliaSim, that u/Model-Jordology and any alternative accounts that u/Model-Jordology utilises or creates, is permanently banned from r/AustraliaSim.
(2) ...
In section 48(1)(a), I have included the reasons why u/Model-Jordology should be permanently banned, and I want us to also begin this culture of naming, or at least providing reasons why persons in section 48 are banned. This is so that we, as a community, can reflect on why these individuals are banned and whether future conduct in the sim would qualify for other action. It serves as a reminder to us all of what is acceptable and what is not acceptable.
Furthermore, it provides the Executive Board and Guardian an avenue to consider why these persons were banned in the first place, irrespective of whether that person was banned long before their time. This further removes any ambiguity as to why a person may have been the subject of a community safety ban. Typically, future insertions to the subparagraphs of section 48(1) should look as such:
[justification and reasoning as to why this person is being temporarily or permanently removed]. Therefore, as of [insert date of passage of amendment], be it resolved by the members of r/AustraliaSim, that [Discord or Reddit Username of Player] and any alternative accounts that [Discord or Reddit Username of Player] utilises or creates, is [permanently/temporarily] banned from r/AustraliaSim.
Please note that the date of passage to the amendment should be included in 48(1) and reflect upon passage. Happy to answer questions.
The Code of Conduct refers to a 'ban' as a suspension against a member of the simulation for a violation of a rule that has severe consequences on an individual or the simulation as a whole. A 'permanent ban' is used for the most severe offences, 'and are designed to protect the community due to dangerous behaviour.'
u/Model-Jordology has accrued at least 20 offences which primarily exhibit a repeated pattern of threatening, abusive and harassive behaviour. His personal fiasco with u/model-s007 does not help the situation at all. The fact that this has gone so far mandates a community discussion on (1) what to do in instances where a dispute between two players begins to affect the community as a whole; and (2) what to do with Jordology. This form of toxicity should not spillover and affect other individuals in the simulation.
I will begin by presenting a summary of Jordology's offences, followed by establishing a discussion of his noteworthy offences. I will then present a case on how these exhibit: (1) an escalating pattern of abuse; (2) a negative impact on community morale; (3) that Jordology is a danger to community members a threat to community safety; and (4) that Jordology has undermined community moderation efforts. Ultimately I argue that this individual must be placed on either a 'last strike basis'; or alternatively, if the community seeks to vote on the matter, to permanently ban Jordology from the community.
Sanction # | Sanction Type | Date Issued D/M/Y | Offence | Moderator Responsible | Duration of Sanction | Time Between Sanctions |
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1 | Discord Mute | 20/04/2023 | Abuse | u/NGSpy | 6 hours | nil |
2 | Discord Mute | 25/06/2023 | Request | u/Youmaton | 24 hours | 66 days |
3 | Discord Mute | 26/06/2024 | Vexatious Complaints and Harassment | u/NGSpy | 7 days | 1 day |
4 | Discord Mute | 18/08/2023 | Pending Investigation | u/Youmaton | 24 hours | 53 days |
5 | Simulation Ban | 19/08/2024 | Fraud and Ban Circumvention | u/NGSpy | 90 days | 1 day |
6 | Simulation Ban | 18/12/2023 | Threats, Abuse, Harassment (Moderate Significance) | u/NGSpy | 75 days (Appealed to 60 days) | 121 days |
7 | Discord Mute | 10/03/2024 | Breach of 'M' Standard | u/Youmaton | 1 day | 83 days |
8 | Discord Mute | 15/03/2024 | Vexatious Pinging of Community Mods | u/tbyrn21 | 6 hours | 5 days |
9 | Discord Mute | 26/03/2024 | Doxxing* Jokes | u/Youmaton | 2 hours | 10 days |
10 | Discord Mute | 12/05/2024 | Argument with other Members | u/Youmaton | 8 hours | 47 days |
11 | Discord Mute | 29/06/2024 | Unclear | u/BellmanTGM | 24 hours | 48 days |
12 | Discord Mute | 14/07/2024 | Joking about Assassination Attempts | u/Youmaton | 4 hours | 15 days |
13 | Discord Mute | 26/08/2024 | Breach of the Warning Threshold | u/NGSpy | 1 hour | 43 days |
14 | Discord Mute | 30/08/2024 | Laughing at the Physical Injury of another Member | u/Youmaton | 2 days | 4 days |
15 | Discord Mute | 14/09/2024 | Engagement with s007 | u/Model-Pierogi | 24 hours | 11 days |
16 | Discord Mute | 19/09/2024 | Engagement with s007 | u/roundedrectangle101 | 24 hours | 5 days |
17 | Discord Mute | 24/09/2024 | Engagement with s007 | u/Youmaton | 12 hours | 6 days |
18 | Discord Mute | 26/09/2024 | Engagement with s007 | u/Youmaton | 3 hours | 2 days |
19 | Discord Mute | 27/09/2024 | Engagement with s007 | u/NGSpy | 7 days | 24 hours |
20 | Simulation Ban | 27/09/2024 | Fraud (Plagiarism) and Threats, Abuse and Harassment Offences | u/NGSpy | 28 days | nil |
On 19/8/2023, Jordology was banned in an attempt to defraud the moderation team, and assist/facilitate the circumvention of a ban. The banned player was TressEnthusiaster. TressEnthusiaster ultimately refused, exposing Jordology whom was subsequently banned.
Jordology attempted to persuade TressEnthusiaster to modmail the moderation team to impersonate alluringmemory, in a broader conspiracy to get alluringmemory permanently banned on suspicion of being the alternative account of TressEnthusiaster.
J: "do you want to be even more fucking funny and notorious in aussim. bc I have a way" 23:02
T: "I'm listening" 23:03
J: "If the mods approach you say he is ur alt and apologise profusely and dont mention we talked" 23:06
T: "Ok jordology why would they believe me" 23:06
J: "mediocre is one reason. this guy fits your profile to a tee. or we could just write an admission here and you can confirm with mods. what doyou reckon?" 23:07
T: "Yeah uh no I'm not gonna do this" 23:09
This goes to show the effort and lengths that Jordology would go to in order to vilify and defame a player of the simulation, alluringmemory. It is unclear what his motives were to get alluringmemory banned, but his motives to persuade TressEnthusiaster were grounded in 'being fucking funny and notorious in aussim'.
Edit: From the Electoral Commissioner, Doctor, (formerly referred to as David), “To be fair we thought there was an alt in the server and him and I were speculating for a while about who it was. But it turned out that max (cpa leader at the time) was just in the server and could view the hidden channels for some reason lol. And nobody realised.
He expressed no remorse or acknowledgment of his wrongdoing and further attempted to persuade TressEnthusiaster to keep the conversation privy between themselves. When TressEnthusiaster expressed an intention to inform the r/AustraliaSim moderation team of this, Jordology deleted his messages in an attempt to case doubt over TressEnthusiaster.
When confronted by the moderation team, Jordology asserted that he did not mean to conspire with TreesEnthusiaster to defraud the moderation team by instructing TreesEnthusiaster to impersonate alluringmemory. He said "thats not what i meant to do I will cop the punishment bc it did look that way tbh" is his answer to a reply to then-Guardian TheAudibleAsh. No remorse in light of an objective fact where in which he literally gave TreesEnthusiaster the instructions and opportunity on how to defraud the moderation team.
It is unclear to me how this was regarded as a mitigating circumstance at the time. Jordology has not admitted guilt. He has denied guilt but accept liability. There is a stark difference. There is no remorse in this statement. There is merely an acceptance of fact masked behind a shroud of shame for one's misbehaviour.
On 18/12/2023 Jordology was banned for continuous, harmful abuse and harassment towards another member, known as 'georg' (I Bleed Purple) on the Discord. Here, he antagonises georg, qualifying as a provocation towards other players, and further went on to continuously abuse and harass them.
Statements made by Jordology on 14/12/2023:
J: "How did this fucktard [referring to I Bleed Purple] get elected as leader" :agony: 21:48
J: [In reply to a comment, 'Though you still got 12MaxWild'] "I'd prefer [12MaxWild] over this shithead :agony:" 21:48
...
J: "CPA: Complete Pricks and Assholes" 21:51
...
J: "Hey I Bleed Purple suck my dick hehehehe" 21:5
In an impact statement given by georg to u/NGSpy in relation to the incident, georg said:
I know people generally don't like me (or a lot of people in the CPA) much and this kind of language really reinforces that outsider feeling I get. It makes me feel unwelcome, like any input I make will be ignored, and isolated from the rest of the sim. It puts me down, it shuts me out, and honestly it makes me feel like shit [emphasis added
In his appeal to the moderation team, he appealed on the basis of a technicality: that because he was not warned for his conduct, the lengthy ban was unjustified. But the moderation team rightfully held that that was rubbish; he had been warned repeated times on multiple occassions, for previous threatening, abusive and harrassive behaviour; and that in this instance, after just returning from a 90 day ban in Sanction #5, would engage in such conduct. No remorse for how he made georg feel. And where is georg today? Why is he no longer with us? We may only speculate, and only georg will be able confirm his reasonings. But until then, the evidence paints a pretty clear and damning picture. I'd ask you to consider how georg felt. If this was not an instance of cyberbullying, this is. And Jordology showed no remorse.
Finally, a latent issue Sanction #6 that was unexplored was that this threatening, abusive and harrasive behaviour seemingly stemmed from a personal dispute between georg and Jordology, over the latter going behind the former's back in relation to a deal with the 'AfD'. This, in tandem with his recent personal spat with s007, shows how Jordology has a tendency to allow his personal affairs become the community's affairs, where in which it establishes such a toxic environment that disincentivises participation from our community.
On 27/9/2024, Jordology was finally banned for 28 days for plagiarising the Country Liberal Party's manifesto and for further threats, abuse and harassment against myself and the moderation team. I will write this part largely from my perspective since I was broadly involved; and to open, I will quote NGSpy:
The ongoing spat that these two individuals have is one of the most annoying moderation cases in AustraliaSim history, and came at not a good time for me at all.
As noted above, we see the effects of a private dispute between two individuals spill over into the community, where in which all must put up with it. 5 mutes were handed out to Jordology until he was finally banned.
But let us consider the situation categorically, in its entirety and not just localised on what is on the ban announcement. This is because this situation, unlike the others, is still fresh.
Again, the evidence speaks for itself. It is uncontroversial and Jordology accepts it, but I will note that this is not his first instance of suspicious activity with respect to plagiarism, which in view, includes the utilisation of artificial intelligence in the absence of proper citation.
On 10/9/2024, Youmaton issued a formal moderation action against s007 and Jordology, ordering them to stop talking to each other. On 26/9/2024, that order would be escalated and enforced at a higher level as the 'issues have not resolved, and evidently stronger moderator actions needs to be taken'.
Between these two period in time (ie formal moderation action and escalation), Sanctions #15; #16; #17; and #18 would be perpetrated by Jordology.
On 26/9/2024,the same day the escalation of the formal moderation action against both Jordology and s007 was issued. I will explain it in pictures as it provides a better visual representation.
s007 expressed his concern about him being at a significant disadvantage running as an independent against Jordology, who was a one-man party supported by party mods and the benefit of 3 additional party posts. He hinted at how that candidate, in the absence of the party, would be an independent candidate in-substance, and was seeking to get additional posts or advice on how to increase his chances. A discussion between Anacornda and myself ensued over the modifying effect of party mods, and whether it would have made a difference in relation to the likelihood of prevailing in an election. It was a delightful discussion until Jordology decided to engage in the discussion.
Anacornda and I were discussing the issue of modifiers on a basis that was not personal. It involved considering a model scenario between two model candidates, an independent candidate and a candidate that was registered with a party, and whether there would be any significant difference if one party had two extra posts that were, at a conservative best, 30% of a regular campaign post. Nobody wanted to personally involve them because of the toxicity that it might enliven.
But before I could complete my statement, Jordology, who is under orders from 10/9/2024 to refrain from engaging with s007, decides to suddenly take a personal defense and argue that s007's demise can be attributed to s007's folly when the discussion, thus far, was in relation to party modifiers and the additional two party posts against independent candidates. s007 was hinting that he wanted either advice on how to get an edge; or alternatively, to seek leniencies from the Electoral Commissioner; and, expectedly, s007 replied.
Jordology attempted to dissuade me from looking into the differences between the two groups (independent candidates with no party posts vs candidates registered with a party with party posts) after my discussion with Anacornda. I am unsure why he started trying to engage with me when I was, at that point, strictly only talking to Anacornda.
s007 then questioned the validity of Jordology's request for an extension in relation to a defamation court case that was initiated by s007 against Jordology. I chimed in and agreed that it was engaged in bad faith. This drew in a broader discussion with me where he would later go on to accuse me of bias for granting his extension and in allegedly spreading misinformation to get rid of him. Sanction #18 would be issued shortly thereafter.
My opinion that Jordology was engaging with the case in bad faith came from my position as the incumbent Justice responsible over the administration of that case, that later resigned to run in the upcoming election.
On 16/9/2024, Jordology asked me to grant him an extension for his surgery on 20/9/2024 (Friday), and wanted the case to be postponed a week after the election. I said that we can accommodate for his surgery, but we cannot delay it a week after the election because that would not be fair to s007. Jordology then threatened that he would not participate in the case if he was not accommodated. I told him to compromise and discuss with s007 what is agreeable between the both of them. They agreed to the following Wednesday, 25/9/2024 and I accepted that date for the due date of submissions.
On 18/9/2024 Jordology thought it proper to message me out of the blue, in the interests of transparency, as to why he would not be able to participate in the court case, but would be able to participate in the election. I did not want to hear it, an extension was already granted and I told him that I was not going to take his statements at face value any longer. All he needs to do is literally read a document that was not written in strict legalese and determine whether or not he wanted to contest the claim. Not that far from that point in time, he even had a sim-lawyer representing him, tbyrn, who also resigned after expressing frustrations with Jordology. So it is unclear to me why he would not be able to participate. Nevertheless, because of my opinion of not accepting his statements at face value any longer, he thought it further proper to report me to the moderation team. This, perhaps, is his first instance of a vexatious report.
Then, after I had resigned to run for the upcoming election on the due date of the submissions, Jordology withdraws from the case and notes that he would not be contesting the case any longer. The facts thus far are that this person has threatened to not participate if an extension was not granted; the extension was granted. The due date arrived. I, the allegedly biased presiding Jude, resigned and a new Judge, advancedgaming12, resumed control over the proceedings. advancedgaming12 offered Jordology a further extension which would have went beyond the extension (we were 3 days into campaigning already). Jordology declined and made good on his threat of non-participation by withdrawing from the case immediately on the due date.
That, to me, informed my opinion on why the circumstances of seeking the extension were made in bad faith.
I will note, at that prior to the official listing of the case, I was creating new forms and working with the moderation team on incorporating consequential effects to court cases, modifiers and new Rules to reinvigorate the Court and make it easier for litigants to participate. So as above, I passionately and absolutely reject the assertion that I made it difficult for him, or anyone, to participate.
When porriidge made a comment about how it was unfair not to decanonise the circumstances of the Liberal Party budget failing, Jordology decided to rub salt in open wound. And as a banterous response, I simply replied with a screenshot of Jordology crying to the Head Moderator and the community to decanonise the EMP incident, followed by a comment about how people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Jordology proceeded to ask for something to be done against SurfingNooty and myself; to which I told him if he stops being a cunt to others, I will stop coming for him. I told him I returned to canon to screw with him and disrupt his agenda. In the continued banterous spirit, told him that naughty boys get a visit from the naughty boys police. I don’t know why I must call the police.
Jordology then accused me of accusing him of breaking a law and advised me to report it to the police, and formally asked moderators to investigate me for the allegations of accusing him of a crime. This was one of the vexatious complaints and harrassive conduct that Jordology was banned for.
I will now share another personal experience in this form of conspiratorial and vexatious conduct by Jordology. On 25/6/2023, just 2 months prior to Sanction #5, Jordology managed to persuade NGSpy to seek evidence from my direct messages that I did not inform Griffonomics of nivea_chapstick's identity. I only complied and provided the evidence to clear NGSpy's headaches over the situation, but I noted how invasive and vexatious this was.
On 27/9/2024, in relation to Sanction #19, Jordology was muted on the Discord by Youmaton for continued engagement with s007 despite a formal and server-wide warning being issued to both of them to cease contact. What did Jordology proceed to do when he was muted on Discord?
Jordology proceeded to spam the press subreddit with three cringey, narcissistic, and successive posts about himself and the 'Book of Jordology' within the span of 45 minutes (Post 1 at 7:03PM; Post 2 at 7:11PM; Post 3 7:48PM). I am unsure how this did not qualify as a mute circumvention when, by admission, these were 'shitposts' and memes that he decided to post when banned on discord.
Jordology simply cannot take time off from the simulation when he is being muted or punished. He must always be engaged because of his narcissistic personality. He shows no self-restraint and further supports the case of how someone with this character may be a danger towards the safety of other members, in light of the circumstances previously mentioned (see Sanctions #5 and #6).
In retaliation to being banned, Jordology said:
"NG has made it clear I should not come back to aussim, so I won't. I am taking shit to the proper authorities because there is reportable stuff. I will be making a report to the esafety commissioner and NG will be asked to comply with the requests to provide evidence. If he does not comply, I will take it further, to discord or ACMA [Australian Communications and Media Authority]. Simple as that. Just making sure people know what's happening so he can't hide it in the moderators server."
Then, becoming more invasive towards the Head Moderator; and 'watering down' his ban, stating that the Head Moderator admitted the Jordology engaged in no wrongdoing; and that he was not reporting the whole community to eSafety, rather one individual
But we have seen a repeated pattern of this 'doubling-' and 'watering-down' by Jordology. Recall, in Sanction #5, when asking TreesEnthusiaster to impersonate alluringmemory; when caught by the moderation team, Jordology said: "thats not what i meant to do I will cop the punishment bc it did look that way tbh" is his answer to a reply to then-Guardian TheAudibleAsh. Yet, he literally gave the instructions to TreesEnthusiaster on how to defraud the moderation team. No remorse in light of an objective fact.
He will defraud them. He will defame them. He is yet to successfully convince a permanently banned player to impersonate them.
All of these offences were perpetrated by an individual who allegedly seeks to report r/AustraliaSim, or an individual of r/AustraliaSim, to the eSafety Commissioner for alleged cyberbullying against him.
The track record thus far reflects a very unconvincing case for Jordology and rather reflects that of a bully. We have seen as escalating pattern of offending throughout Sanctions #1 to #20, they have increased in frequency and gravity; as seen in Sanction #5, he has the capacity and willingness to defraud the moderation team, and in Sanction #20, continually seeks to undermine them with no remorse.
No remorse, like in Sanction #6, where he bullied another player because of some personal dispute; and when he appealed, appealed on some technicality that he was not warned prior to receiving the ban. Repeat offenders, particularly of this nature, typically indicate a disregard to the wellbeing of other community members and a gross elevation of their own wellbeing, and that has been exhibited in his conduct in Sanctions #5, #6, #19 and #20.
I used to care for Jordology's wellbeing when I was in moderation, and shortly after I left it, I genuinely did. I made attempts to protect his identity, advise him on education pathways, and generally encouraged him to be a well-spirited player.
But I do not care for Jordology anymore, I care more about the community now. No remorse. A pattern of reoffending. A capacity and willingness to undermine moderation efforts. This, and recent events, ultimately show his impact on community morale, and the danger he poses to members of r/AustraliaSim and community safety.
Moderation attempts have proven unfruitful. Despite all the notable offences elaborated above, the individual will inevitably return and this culture of toxicity and abusive, harrassive behaviour will continue. But to what end? It is time that we, as a community, begin a discussion on what to do in instances where (1) a dispute between two players begins to affect the community as a whole; and (2) what to do with Jordology.
In relation on what to do with Jordology, I propose to either impose a last strike on Jordology; or to permanently ban him from the community for the reasons above. I invite any and all other suggestions to this issue or a formal moderation response.
A last strike basis means that, upon expiration of Jordology's 28 day ban from the community (ie Sanction #20), where in which Jordology were to commit another offence in relation to Threats, Abuse and Harassment, Jordology will receive a permanent ban. This is to emphasise the connection to community safety, where in which we have 20 separate infractions, many of which involve threats, abuse and harassment. I formally ask for this executive rule to be implemented and imposed against Jordology if he should be capable of returning to r/AustraliaSim.
I formally petition to permanently ban u/Model-Jordology from r/AustraliaSim. Aggravating factors that may be relevant for our consideration include:
I need 5 seconders to move this to a vote; or whatever terms u/NGSpy may clarify.
Hi all,
Due to u/jq8678's upcoming lapse of his term as Electoral Administrator, there will be a Vote of Confidence in u/jq8678 to continue as Electoral Administrator.
The timeline is as follows:
Election Start - 4th of October, 7:00PM AEST
Election End - 6th of October, 7:00PM AEDT (6:00PM AEST)
Results Announced - 6th of October, 7:30PM AEDT (6:30PM AEST)
Anybody who is registered as a Member of AustraliaSim, or is a current MP, Senator, Officeholder or Justice can vote.
So we're not electing real sim members to the Senate anymore, but how will it work? Hopefully this post hits a few of the more common things we've seen brought up, and clears any remaining confusion.
As we've made clear, everything we're doing this term is subject to change. If the community thinks overall something is dumb, we'll revisit it, consult, and make any necessary changes. Nothing answered here is necessary set in stone.
How will votes work?
Votes will be performed by Party-leaders, Deputy-leaders, or a designated person. These people will vote on behalf of their bloc of 'simulated Senators' as a whole. For example, if the ALP has 8 Senate seats, Anthony Albanese comments on the vote post with 'AYE', all of the ALPs 8 Senators are taken to have voted 'AYE'.
Can a party split its votes?
No, a party must put all of its votes in one of either 'AYE', 'NO' or 'ABS'.
How will joint-sittings work?
Exactly the same as they do now. The increased Senate numbers (going from half of the House, to double the House) will likely have an effect on the results of these, but it's something we don't really have a good answer for. All we can say is "We will let things run their course, and adjust at a future date if required".
Can Bills be introduced to the Senate?
As there there will be no Player-Senators, bills will not be able to be introduced by the Senate. This may change in the future if people believe a party without MPs, but with a Senate presence should be able to submit bills.
What bill phases will exist in the Senate?
As there are no real players in the Senate, all debate is to be done in the House on the main sub /r/AustraliaSim. This means the Senate will only exist for votes. Should amendments be requested while the bill is set for the Senate, the Senate may instead choose to send the bill back to the House requesting amendments, this can be flagged by a leader at any stage prior to posting of a vote in the Senate in a pinned thread on the Senate sub.
What will happen to bills stuck in the Senate as of the 31st term?
No change to the process. A vote will be made to restore them to the Order Paper at the stage they were last at.
What will voting activity requirements look like in the Senate?
The responsibility of party votes rests on the leader of the party, even if they delegate these out. Any lack of voting in the Senate will affect the percentage, for activity requirement purposes, of the leader of said party. This may also affect sate/national modifiers for the party, but this has yet to be confirmed.
If a Party Leader has a poor voting record in the House, but a good voting record in the Senate, will the Senate voting record be used to bolster their voting record for activity requirement purposes?
In a word, no. The two voting records are separate if the Senate record is positive. The two voting records only combine if the Senate record is negative (below 50%).
Can we name our Senators?
Yes, but please avoid using real-life people, or names that are inappropriate in nature. It should be noted, while using real-life names is not prohibited at this stage, the people are considered separate and unique from their real-life counterparts. If a Senator is named "Anthony Albanese", they are not the same being as the current Prime Minister of Australia in real life, and as such, have never been Prime Minister or held any position in the Canon of AustraliaSim.
How are we ensuring the Senate meets its purpose in preventing a single party from obtaining a monopoly over both houses? How will the Senate continue its statutory and constitutional mandate in scrutinising legislation?
The proportional system of election is different for both Houses, as it is in real life, this aims to ensure not necessarily a different result in both Houses, but to emulate the systems of election in real life.While the first election under this system will see all Senate seats filled, subsequent elections will be more normal in nature, with only half-elections. The expansion from half-house to double-house ensures that no one party gets all of the seats, and allows for minor parties to have some form of representation, to put it short, more democratic. This all means scrutiny will still occur.
Is it fair for a party with 1 member to control more NPCs in the Senate?
It is not for us to determine whether this is fair or not, rather just to implement based on what the community has asked for. Having increased Senator numbers means we will need to allow such situations to occur (due to membership numbers) whether you as an individual believe it is fair or not.
Why was a unicameral chamber not considered?
A unicameral chamber was the original proposal, though the community decided to go with a bicameral system with a simulated (to a degree) Senate. Should the community decide it was wrong, such a change won't be made until at least the end of a full 32nd term.
How would Senate or Joint Parliamentary Inquiries and Committees work?
Functionally the same, anything joint would effectively be run just by House members, though would retain the Joint-name. As no one in recent times has really used them, Senate Committees and Inquiries we're happy to just move them to the House, or listen to any suggestions the community has.
We have a live feedback hub for this post within Discord in this thread.
Hi All,
Been a while since I've banned someone, isn't it? It was all going so well....
Oh well.
The headline is that u/Model-Jordology is banned for 28 days. 7 days for severe plagiarism in the Manifesto of the Country Liberal Party's manifesto, and 21 days for Harassment. Aggravating factors to make it 28 days include vexatious complaints to moderators, repeated warnings and mutes about the conduct engaged, as well as a lack of remorse/aggressive action against the moderation team.
Plagiarism
Plagiarism is not allowed in AustraliaSim under any circumstances, because it is fraud and dishonest. Jordology has engaged in plagiarism in AustraliaSim, particularly with the NTLP's manifesto, please have a look at the following:
Just to give an idea. I believe other eamples of plagiarism have been shown on AustraliaSim, and I am happy to keep a catalogue. Plagiarism falls under the category of Fraud & Impersonation offences. This is the second time he has done this, and it has a low significance level, so that results in a 7 day ban.
The Jordology-s007 Saga
The ongoing spat that these two individuals have is one of the most annoying moderation cases in AustraliaSim history, and came at not a good time for me at all. I would like to thank the moderation team for carefully monitoring the situation closely and putting in place mutes and warnings.
s007 and Jordology have on-and-off been having a general spat at each other. Including insults and vexatious complaints to moderators. This has caused Youma to issue a warning to not talk to each other, and this was not complied with repeatedly, to the point where Youma had to confirm that Jordology did indeed block s007.
Some harassment and abuse directed at other member's of the community, by a vexatious complaint.
Despite these mutes and warnings, Jordology has not changed his behaviour or language whatsoever, and keeps aggressively threatening the moderators, eg: taking it to the eSafety Commissioner.
Here is a conversation he had with BellmanTGM
Here is a threat to take this to the authorities.
My apologies if my evidence is a little loose around the area, but all the moderation team agree that this ban was acceptable action.
Summary
With all this in mind, and the fact he was previously banned for 90 days for fraud, which caused harassment against a member for being accused of being an alt, Jordology is given a 28 day ban.
The following Executive Rule intends to expand the powers available to Clerks to that outside of just Parliamentary matters, allowing Clerks to also assist with High Court matters.
These are being amended by myself as the High Court and Clerks both come under the remit of the Parliamentary Administrator as per Section 17.4.1 of the Meta Constitution.
The effective changes to the Meta Constitution are as follows:
Section 19.5
Omit "Parliament and help"
Substitute "Parliament, High Court, and help
Section 19.5.6
Move the section and rename to 19.5.7
Omit "19.5.5"
Substitute "19.5.6"
After Section 19.5.5
Insert "19.5.6 assist with High Court form creations, administrative docketing, managing rules and other formal or informal documentation responsibilities;"
Barring any dissent under Sections 35 or 36 of the Meta Constitution, these changes will come into effect as of the 1st of October 2024.
Good evening,
This Executive Rule amends the Canon Constitution to allow us to make the changes to the Senate that we are implementing.
If you have any questions or concerns, place them in the comments below.
If there are no issues, this Rule will go into effect in five (5) days (23/09/2024).
Section 24
Omit "The House of Representatives shall be composed of members directly chosen by the people of the Commonwealth, and the number of such members shall be, as nearly as practicable, twice the number of the senators."
Substitute "The House of Representatives shall be composed of members chosen by the people of the Commonwealth."
Section 24, Subsection (i)
Omit "twice the number of senators"
Substitute "half the number of senators"
^(Acting under Section 16.4 of the AustraliaSim Meta Constitution)
This might seem like an odd proposal, but I feel it's a good one.
Let's say someone in canon wants a break, but still wants to be in canon somehow.
I feel the perfect opportunity to make that happen is by appointing canon members as State Governors/Administrators, for terms no longer than 3 months at a time. If the canon member wants to only do it for 1 or 2 months, there would be allowances to do so.
Happy to hear questions
Hi everyone,
I'm letting you know that I am officially changing my reddit name (changing accounts) because I no longer want to be known as u/Slow-passenger-1542.
My new reddit account and name will be now u/Model-YourMum.
The Slow one will be deleted.
I will use that as changing my legal name and playing in Canon under the new name.
Thank you!
These changes to the standing orders are being made to close a hole that has been, and may be abused to strategically obtain differing vote results in the future.
If you cannot take one minute out of your day from your mobile, tablet, laptop or desktop computer, I'm sorry but I can't help you.
If are genuinely sick, please apply for leave - in the future we may consider changes to the proxy voting system to assist in this space.
Please see the changes to the Standing Orders:
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Section 132, Subsection (b)
Omit the entire subsection
Section 132, Section heading
Omit " or misadventure"
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Edit: For the avoidance of doubt, this will only come into effect at the end of the current 31st Term.
Activity is a big issue amongst aussim, and from what I can see a lot of it is a lack of willingness or knowledge to write bills or business.
I’m proposing that, in the future, when our numbers go up, we create a department of parliamentary counsel, a go to person when you want to write bills, etc.
I myself am struggling at the moment to put business together when you’re trying to find if stuff exists already and where you can modify or add things.
I think a department of parliamentary counsel could help the sim a lot, but of course, not until we have a larger player base. For now we need to keep the people we already have in canon right where they are.
Hi All,
In the case I am unavailable due to work and/or other misadventure, I will and transferring and/or allowing my powers to be used temporarily by /u/NGSpy and /u/jq8678. This will be in place for the day of Friday 6th September 2024 from 4:30PM AEST until 11:59PM AEST.
Don't get too excited.
Model-Forza
Parliament Administrator
Per the Meta Rule on Parliamentary Activity, now an Executive Rule under our current constitution:
(c) If a members contributions under 271(d) fall below 50% at any time, the Parliament Administrator and Speakership must issue notice to that member in any reasonable manner they see fit.
(d) If after two weeks, or four cycles, the members contributions under 271(d) have not improved to be 50% or greater, the Parliament Administrator must eject the Member from the Parliament.
Those with under 50% stand as follows:
Parliamentarians with a voting record under 50% as at 30/08/2024
Parliamentarians being named are:
/u/SmugDemoness
As such, I am giving those named above four cycles (Activity will be checked at the end of the 17th of September cycle) to improve their voting activity to above 50%. If the members fails to establish a sufficient contribution within this review period, I will be forced to act under the Meta Rule and remove them from their position.
If you believe there will not be sufficient votes to allow you to improve to the 50% requirement, as was stated in the Meta Rule post, I suggest you participate further by submitting business to ensure that votes will occur .
Note: If these members have voted within a voting period and we've missed it, we've missed a period of leave, or the comment was removed by Reddit, please point this out so we can review and amend if required. Votes outside a voting period are ignored.